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Post by litteleven on Feb 2, 2021 2:58:49 GMT
and one skim later I'm removing my town points for bgb because I misread bgb's statement @bluegummybear choosing to create content doesn't feel likeb it's town indicative? especially when the content is something you don't believe in, and though we may have different towncore notions, putting someone in 'town for the rest of the game' off a reason like that doesn't seem consistent to me. From your pov it could just be scun forcing a sus which feels like something you skipped on which confuses me
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Post by litteleven on Feb 2, 2021 3:04:18 GMT
hello, quick catchup: page 2 puts in a chaos tr for me. Feel like their votepost on spiderz is actually not very solid content wise (rvs is usually inconsequential) but it feels like a very townie hill to come from to me bgb catching this line of thinking early suggests town!bgb off that no real impression of genny or dubz yet here dunno what went in to the wall of text maple shared, but ended up in an argument of: town cause scum would have an agenda and scum cause town would want to begin playing so I'm accepting this as simple nai Once again this entire day gives me strong deja vu. Though aside from that, i’m curious as to how many scum you think are currently in the past. If you think it’s 2 are there any possible teams in mind you have at the moment? I know it’s a little hard to get a read on the 3 new people and that’s mainly what is stumping me a bit, because i find it extremely easy to just ignore those 3. er i don't have a single person I can straight commit to as a scum read, let alone a team read given its a cs. No idea about numbers but i would make this 2 team scum in past 1 solo scum 1 team scum in future if I made this myself, maybe?
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Post by bluegummybear on Feb 2, 2021 3:05:39 GMT
The thinking scum in this pool is a weird thought to have, didn't really think of that, if you don't mind what specifically led up to that thought? "Flush wouldn't make 8 town brawl over a lynch when they can only vote out town" Im just astonished on how you took the consideration that there might not be any existing scum in the group on day 1.
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Post by litteleven on Feb 2, 2021 3:09:44 GMT
"Flush wouldn't make 8 town brawl over a lynch when they can only vote out town" Im just astonished on how you took the consideration that there might not be any existing scum in the group on day 1. astonished because your role would instantly reject that premise? verbal jab aside, it's just a reassurance that there's something to play for today
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 2, 2021 3:12:17 GMT
Once again this entire day gives me strong deja vu. Though aside from that, i’m curious as to how many scum you think are currently in the past. If you think it’s 2 are there any possible teams in mind you have at the moment? I know it’s a little hard to get a read on the 3 new people and that’s mainly what is stumping me a bit, because i find it extremely easy to just ignore those 3. er i don't have a single person I can straight commit to as a scum read, let alone a team read given its a cs. No idea about numbers but i would make this 2 team scum in past 1 solo scum 1 team scum in future if I made this myself, maybe? Cool, I just wanted some Insight/Input on that, especially since you know more about setups than I do. Given your recent posts, is it safe to assume that you believe Terri V Derz is town V town? Going off the assumption that there is a scum team in the past, I personally think it would be safe to assume that one of the 3 people who aren’t as acquainted with the pokemon showdown mafia room forums, have a good chance of giving us 1 scum. I don’t think by any means that that means we should ignore any other slots (Especially since BGB and I seem to be two of the more controversial slots today) but I am interested to see the likely hood of any of the 3 being scum Also this is a complete tangent, but how funny would it be if all the outsiders were brought in by flush then he handpicked them to be scum, just to see how long it would take for us to figure it out
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Post by bluegummybear on Feb 2, 2021 3:20:37 GMT
where did i contradict myself? In one post i said i didn’t like their posts on a gut feeling level even though they were filler posts and in the next one I said that the post my gut feeling was strongest on was a post with no direction that added nothing. Filler isn’t just shitposting, it’s nothing content that serves no purpose besides to fill dead air. I also don’t understand why you would say it was my “Push on BGB” when I blatantly stated that in no way did i intend to push the slot at all, I was merely pointing out what I felt was weird with early day BGB. Forgot to point this out but no way you asked a question like that so you could see if I would "refuse" to answer a question, anyways, the fact that you progressed between posts indicates you scum leaned BGB based off his first two posts which is super questionable, it just looks super blood thirsty to me. That Boy Spiderz SUS
1. That seemed like a dodge attempted. They probably asked because it matters to them. Attempting to see someone reaction before answering the question seems like shady maneuvering 2. You came to a conclusion of "xyz is pushing" based on that quote you mention? what you tryna do? Look at my response to ptsd, as for your second point I'm confused on what you mean? You said PTSD was pushing me which seems like a overstatement You now said PTSD is Super blood thirsty which also seems like a overstatement Not sure if this is suppose oppturnistic or just a genuine overconfident read
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Post by bluegummybear on Feb 2, 2021 3:44:39 GMT
and one skim later I'm removing my town points for bgb because I misread bgb's statement @bluegummybear choosing to create content doesn't feel likeb it's town indicative? especially when the content is something you don't believe in, and though we may have different towncore notions, putting someone in 'town for the rest of the game' off a reason like that doesn't seem consistent to me. From your pov it could just be scun forcing a sus which feels like something you skipped on which confuses me I town read someone for the rest of the game?
No one is town reading anyone for the rest of the game. I think choas "forceful sus" is indeed suspicious act in its self but I am reading in more deeper into it rather then the read itself. Its the action of making something out of nothing including his earlier post. Day 1 towncore translate to "not a day 1 lynch candidate" if that make more sense. Do you think their forceful sus was scum motivated? Do you think choas is scum?
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Post by bluegummybear on Feb 2, 2021 3:56:37 GMT
passthesaltdudenow that Spiderz have given you an response now that Spiderz has pushed you with strong diction What do you think of his alignment?
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 2, 2021 15:21:46 GMT
The info gained isn’t from you answering the question, it’s your blatant refusal to answer the question. You put a lynch on BGB and then shifted it to Maple. When confronted on why you said that you wanted to RVS onto someone you didn’t know well, which would be a valid excuse if you had not lynched BGB first. but instead of providing a valid reason of why you lynched BGB first you keep deflecting the question, which helps absolutely no one in this situation. and the only reason why someone would answer that question would be because they don’t have an answer. and if you don’t have an answer why wouldn’t you say it LOL, let me get this out the way, me voting BGB and un voting them was just a random decision that I made on a whim, it meant nothing, it still means nothing really, you pressuring for it and trying to squeeze something out of it was my concern, usually when I ask questions I have an intent behind it, with me wanting to look for a certain answer, I wasn't trying to refuse to answer the question, I wanted to know your intent on asking the question, about an NAI interaction, asking questions for the sake of asking questions is a super scumtell!! Why didnt you just say this yesterday lol? I specifically suggested that it could have been a whim and that I might be reading too much into this , you could have just admitted it when replying to me. PTSD's question was very much valid at that point since you didnt give an answer until the above quoted post I'm in no position to actually solve bgb's slot and I've got my idea wrong multiple times, their playing style is off to me, but the content seems solidish so I'll make a more informed decision about this later today derz's snaplynch on ptsd made a lot of sense to me when I was scrolling through the thread, content of said post feels like the classic fit post to agenda and not make agenda off posts and added to, and not organic. ptsd splaining chaos's read is weird to me too. I don't believe in chaos's read because it's based off a starting point in the game ( e.g I voted and unvoted too, why is it ever alignment indicative to do so early in the game) Even if the overall result is right it doesn't mean the reason is, there. spiderz comes off much better than ptsd to me for the interaction. Think it's a position where derz!scum has a gifted point through bad susses. But I'm going to say derz is much more town here unvote spiderz Really? the snap lynch made very little sense to me. I mean at that point , I was sus of Ptsd too because he said bgb's post were filler , and then picked out the one post that was not filler and didnt seem to have anything wrong with it , but derz latched on to it too quick . Feel like town would have asked more questions / had more discussion here , like derz's suspicions were valid but he comes off as being a bit too eager to push someone . To top it off he calls out ptsd for being blood thirsty when it seems to me that derz is even more blood thirsty Imo , there is definitely a strong sense of self-preservation from Spiderz , Im gonna put this slot as either scum or town pr
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 2, 2021 15:23:58 GMT
I believe its self preservation coz he had plurality at that point btw , just in case someone is wondering why
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 2, 2021 15:30:50 GMT
and one skim later I'm removing my town points for bgb because I misread bgb's statement @bluegummybear choosing to create content doesn't feel likeb it's town indicative? especially when the content is something you don't believe in, and though we may have different towncore notions, putting someone in 'town for the rest of the game' off a reason like that doesn't seem consistent to me. From your pov it could just be scun forcing a sus which feels like something you skipped on which confuses me I town read someone for the rest of the game?
No one is town reading anyone for the rest of the game. I think choas "forceful sus" is indeed suspicious act in its self but I am reading in more deeper into it rather then the read itself. Its the action of making something out of nothing including his earlier post. Day 1 towncore translate to "not a day 1 lynch candidate" if that make more sense. Do you think their forceful sus was scum motivated? Do you think choas is scum? That wasnt a "forceful sus" btw , I had clarified it multiple times . There is a high chance that Derz was just acting on a whim , but he didnt claim that so until later . As of now , my read on him is mostly based on his push on ptsd
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 2, 2021 15:51:47 GMT
what gut read all i see is a pile of nothing Litteleven progression
In that pile of nothing, you found a guess read. So how come in that pile of nothing you decide to not continue to vote your guess read which was probably the most optimum thing you had at that point. The part that throws me off is that you put enough effort to create a frivolous reason, which makes me out of the Player list You choose someone who you guessed might be scum based on some random emotion because there was nothing better to do. After doing that you choose not to follow through because they already had a lynch. Anyways I think I would give some Town points here for Litteleven for that whole progression. I fail to see how you get town points from that progression
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 2, 2021 15:56:34 GMT
Not entirely no. ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/73781/threadimagine calling out a post for having useless content, but not wanting to take any further action based on that post, thereby creating useless content to critique useless content. Or is that just mafia in a nutshell? This may be confirmation bias, but this is an excellent point Btw , spiderz . I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on genny . You said ptsd was being too blood thirsty , Genny is voting him for the exact opposite reason i.e being too passive But you agree with him here?
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Post by dubz on Feb 2, 2021 16:13:31 GMT
hello, quick catchup: page 2 puts in a chaos tr for me. Feel like their votepost on spiderz is actually not very solid content wise (rvs is usually inconsequential) but it feels like a very townie hill to come from to me bgb catching this line of thinking early suggests town!bgb off that no real impression of genny or dubz yet here dunno what went in to the wall of text maple shared, but ended up in an argument of: town cause scum would have an agenda and scum cause town would want to begin playing so I'm accepting this as simple nai Once again this entire day gives me strong deja vu. Though aside from that, i’m curious as to how many scum you think are currently in the past. If you think it’s 2 are there any possible teams in mind you have at the moment? I know it’s a little hard to get a read on the 3 new people and that’s mainly what is stumping me a bit, because i find it extremely easy to just ignore those 3. This reads a bit like trying too hard to me. Like why would anyone have answers to those questions at this point?
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Post by dubz on Feb 2, 2021 16:15:06 GMT
er i don't have a single person I can straight commit to as a scum read, let alone a team read given its a cs. No idea about numbers but i would make this 2 team scum in past 1 solo scum 1 team scum in future if I made this myself, maybe? Cool, I just wanted some Insight/Input on that, especially since you know more about setups than I do. Given your recent posts, is it safe to assume that you believe Terri V Derz is town V town? Going off the assumption that there is a scum team in the past, I personally think it would be safe to assume that one of the 3 people who aren’t as acquainted with the pokemon showdown mafia room forums, have a good chance of giving us 1 scum. I don’t think by any means that that means we should ignore any other slots (Especially since BGB and I seem to be two of the more controversial slots today) but I am interested to see the likely hood of any of the 3 being scum Also this is a complete tangent, but how funny would it be if all the outsiders were brought in by flush then he handpicked them to be scum, just to see how long it would take for us to figure it out Honest question for the crowd, is it common for mods to do this around here? This kind of "logic" is frowned upon on SDN because roles are randomly assigned 90+% of the time
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 2, 2021 16:19:17 GMT
Roles were probably assigned randomly , I think ptsd was trying to be funny or something
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Post by dubz on Feb 2, 2021 19:45:10 GMT
Very serious and very quiet for d1. Y'all alive out there?
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Post by spiderz on Feb 2, 2021 19:46:58 GMT
Im just astonished on how you took the consideration that there might not be any existing scum in the group on day 1. astonished because your role would instantly reject that premise? verbal jab aside, it's just a reassurance that there's something to play for today TBF to bgb here, thats exactly why I asked you this question, I'm heavily leaning BGB town here
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Post by dubz on Feb 2, 2021 19:47:12 GMT
Holy crap the other thread has 7 pages
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Post by spiderz on Feb 2, 2021 19:47:15 GMT
Very serious and very quiet for d1. Y'all alive out there? Just got on !
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Post by spiderz on Feb 2, 2021 19:49:23 GMT
Once again this entire day gives me strong deja vu. Though aside from that, i’m curious as to how many scum you think are currently in the past. If you think it’s 2 are there any possible teams in mind you have at the moment? I know it’s a little hard to get a read on the 3 new people and that’s mainly what is stumping me a bit, because i find it extremely easy to just ignore those 3. This reads a bit like trying too hard to me. Like why would anyone have answers to those questions at this point? This is a huge scumtell for me ftr, asking questions for the sake of asking questions in order to look townie, super yikes for me
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Post by dubz on Feb 2, 2021 19:50:52 GMT
Very serious and very quiet for d1. Y'all alive out there? Just got on ! Hi! Is everyone else here besides me and genny (and AM) from this site? Just curious if y'all have all played together
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Post by spiderz on Feb 2, 2021 19:52:46 GMT
I'm not sure if this is even confirmation bias for me, PTSD is just scummy as hell, just a bunch of alarms ringing for me
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Post by spiderz on Feb 2, 2021 19:57:51 GMT
This may be confirmation bias, but this is an excellent point Btw , spiderz . I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on genny . You said ptsd was being too blood thirsty , Genny is voting him for the exact opposite reason i.e being too passive But you agree with him here? uhhh, they aren't opposites, he can consistently fluffpost, which he has been doing in an attempt to look townie, and also be bloodthirsty in others?
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Post by spiderz on Feb 2, 2021 19:58:29 GMT
Hi! Is everyone else here besides me and genny (and AM) from this site? Just curious if y'all have all played together Maple isnt from here, otherwise yep.
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