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Post by Crespo on Jul 10, 2023 2:29:17 GMT
@crespo any gut reads so far? i think clouds is playing the game a bit safer than usual more used to him taking a town lead role early on |
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 2:35:33 GMT
Good morning, I'm town.
If you don't know me, I should introduce myself.
My username is clemensthelemon, clems/clem/lemon/worstmafiaplayerinthisgame for short
How I got my username: I forgot
How I got my display name: You guys decided to assume I was iamveryhappy
I have a total of 4 losses on this site. I am so good.
This is also because I joined 5 games and the unfinished one is this game.
Also known as I am 0/4, a winrate of 0%. Clearly the worst mafia player here.
Now for some of my playstyle introduction.
I either play really aggressively or very passively, no in between.
The playstyle changes really quickly.
How people say I play: Any one of towny town, towny scum, scummy town, scummy scum.
I am a CM. It stands for contradiction master.
I hate walls of text because they are hard to read.
I buckle under pressure. I also kind of give up.
Shitposting is one of my specialities.
I think this is all I have to say.
Oh wait, no. Kindle is FINALLY NOT my main choice of communication which is very good, I follow GMT+8 time zone now.
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 2:36:02 GMT
vote: cyan talon staffhate is fun
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Post by Crespo on Jul 10, 2023 2:36:50 GMT
vote clemens
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Post by Fame on Jul 10, 2023 2:46:05 GMT
Criticising thread bloat/filler is valid and I agree it makes Neo look townie. At the same time I'm kind of wary of townreading for this though. The thread has to start somehow and I can't really expect anyone to have any substantial contribution if they're quite literally the first to post in the thread. You have the advantage of being able to criticise filler when you're not the one starting off the thread.So yeah, overall those initial interactions are NAI IMO but Neo comes out of it looking better. don’t know how it makes him townie? again it’s not like town was seriously off track and he was coming in to fix its direction. You could even argue the opposite by saying neos entrance was more opportunistic and trying to appear like he was helping town The reason why it looks townie is because it actually jump starts the thread + filler/thread bloat means that a good portion of someone's D1 is borderline unreadable. So yeah it's definitely a valid criticism. I agree that town wasn't "seriously off track" or anything but intentions wise it just comes off well. I agree that it's equally possible for it to be opportunistic though. That's why I said I'm kind of wary of townreading for it (see what I bolded in the OG post). I'm willing to just see it from TVT perspective until later on, Clouds was probably right in saying it's something to come back to later in tandem with other information. |
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 3:16:23 GMT
time for me to omgusor do an overreaction aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I'M GETTING VOTED EWEWEW SCUMMY WUMMY BAKA I'M NOT SCUM HELP ME I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M GETTING VOTE AAAAAAAAA I WANT TO OMGUS |
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 4:18:16 GMT
I have no idea what is happening with fame and fing doing this townie looking opener thing
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pisxel
Villager
♡♫ he on my hip like a tamagotchi ♫♡
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Post by pisxel on Jul 10, 2023 8:58:21 GMT
hi ladies i forgot i joined this game <333 let me read up and then i'll give thoughts.
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pisxel
Villager
♡♫ he on my hip like a tamagotchi ♫♡
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Post by pisxel on Jul 10, 2023 9:38:13 GMT
quick d1 thoughts since the most important person in this game is here now yay! - neo voting for the bloat/filler, i actually laughed - this entire discussion in general being based around how fillery a d1 is ... like yay the sky is blue. can we move on? hi winsy is probably town for being unafraid to discuss their role while i agree with neo that saying "let's make things interesting" somewhat defeats the purpose of winsy's vote on neo, i still feel like it has good intentions my gut tells me that crespo and ddlc are bad guys didn't like either of their entrances fame is talking too smart. like they are omniscient. like they are the informed minority. if ur picking up what im putting down. - this read is garbage. scumreading fame for ‘talking too smart’ is like, interesting for sure, but ultimately feels like you’re grasping at straws. them very plainly analyzing the gamestate and showing their reasoning for their reads is not scum behavior. the point of the game is to make reads and case other players based on your reads; that’s exactly what fame did. like, are we reading the same posts? i’m confused. if you're going to try to reach so hard for a reason to throw your vote out, just be like neo and vote for something unimportant that makes you look nai at worst like a "filler vote" : )))). this just makes you look scummy, how unfortunate! [edited to fix italics] vote akakakp |
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Post by Crespo on Jul 10, 2023 10:26:03 GMT
aw man no new posts overnight
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jul 10, 2023 10:49:06 GMT
This is how I'll be talking all game so you gotta deal with it ^_^ On a real note I just feel prompted to format my posts properly since it's forum based and I have the time to do that ! it's not how you're talking but how much thought and theory you are putting into your posts. what do we get from discussing the theory of how a mafia game starts. it's just so distanced from the actual words being said in the thread. that might've just been a result/nature of whatever was being discussed but I have to agree that the line of questioning is mild whatabousim that would lead into a wifom-esque response with no serious intent of seeing why I made the actions at I made at that point in time (if by some chance you didn't understand this please @ me I don't think I got my point across too well here) Just as a point of interest, I have played with fingerlings before, if that helps contextualize why I did that by no means does it actually [/quote] so another admission to pointless fillering that took up the entirety of page one from you? cool and I'd appreciate it if you didn't speak for others to somehow justify your early nothingposting since there is absolutely no way to know if fingerlings took you serious (serious enough to answer it at least but I digress) I also legitimately cannot be bothered to address your "making things interesting" pseduo-omgus vote so by all means keep fluffing up the game w/ nothing [/quote] no I wasn’t expecting him to claim since we were the only there on day start we were just chatting. dont think it means a whole lot fwiw i think our interactions were pretty NAI also the quote looked weird on my end so idk if the formatting for you guys is gonna be weird [/quote] just wanna add that the page 1 stuff wasn’t so much fillering as it was just breaking the ice and imo I don’t think you should be expecting much more than bantering and d1 shenanigans. A lot of the beginning interactions like this is how you get to form your first reads anyway and you really can’t start from nothing. Like yeah you can start your first post trying to town/scumhunt but you have nothing to start off of and I’m not sure how you expect to do so. It’s not like you’re 3 days into a game with 3 days worth of info to analyze and we’re here talking about picking a number between 1-10. The only thing you could criticize is like how bloated a lot of the messages were but I dont think you should be inferring more than playful behavior in those posts [/quote] respectfully I'm not getting any reads from early "banter" interactions that are as the thread pointed out 40 times prior was mostly nai so its a mild contradiction when you say that you can be entirely dismissive of posts like those because of them being playful in nature and somehow also being able to obtain reads from them also a little weird that you can finally respond to post after the topic has been talked into the ground for the most part which kind of makes me think you aren't really thinking for yourself when posting this i really just have a hard time following this whole thing considering i think the starting point shouldn’t have been a starting point to begin with and make the thread go somewhere but the only iffy response is winsy admitting they’re posting less (albeit for oog reasons)  I have no idea what is happening with fame and fing doing this townie looking opener thing almost ended up shifting my vote on this but wondering what exactly is stopping you from asking them about it instead of just posting this and leaving? (unless this is more "playful posting" bs that I shouldn't be taking seriously) |
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 11:01:40 GMT
I don't like the above post
- I was asking (being confused), I also was stating what I was thinking (bc what else do you do? Stay confused? bruh)
- I didn't leave, I was always lurking there :)
- What stopped you from shifting onto me?
- Can you not post walls? PLEASE AAAAA
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Post by Fame on Jul 10, 2023 11:26:01 GMT
I don't like the above post - I was asking (being confused), I also was stating what I was thinking (bc what else do you do? Stay confused? bruh) - I didn't leave, I was always lurking there  - What stopped you from shifting onto me? - Can you not post walls? PLEASE AAAAA It's fine to be confused but I think if you're lurking, it's possible to go through the thread and read the context beyond the last post you saw. It's just "Is this person's opening the tone of someone that's playing for town?" and "Is it just opportunistic for people to criticise filler/bloat?". Also I feel like it's fine for people to make long posts? I would rather spend the time reading a wallpost than spending more time having to clarify, question, and attempt to understand someone's one liners repeatedly. |
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Post by Fame on Jul 10, 2023 11:37:01 GMT
FWIW I think Aka's post is kind of okay, I don't agree with the idea that it's distanced away from the thread but I think Neo put it better in saying that it doesn't really lead to any actual alignment solving. If that was the gist of what Aka was getting at then I can understand it.
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 11:41:56 GMT
GASP
editing posts banned gg
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 12:03:02 GMT
is the page 1 goofy ahh guess the number to be taken seriously or what?
I don't think so, note that I am looking for some softs from winsy there if any
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 12:05:51 GMT
Criticising thread bloat/filler is valid and I agree it makes Neo look townie. At the same time I'm kind of wary of townreading for this though. The thread has to start somehow and I can't really expect anyone to have any substantial contribution if they're quite literally the first to post in the thread. You have the advantage of being able to criticise filler when you're not the one starting off the thread. So yeah, overall those initial interactions are NAI IMO but Neo comes out of it looking better. looking at this post. not really liking it for now. why are you answering neo's questions for them btw hmmmmmmmm |
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 12:06:18 GMT
I don't like the above post - I was asking (being confused), I also was stating what I was thinking (bc what else do you do? Stay confused? bruh) - I didn't leave, I was always lurking there - What stopped you from shifting onto me? - Can you not post walls? PLEASE AAAAA It's fine to be confused but I think if you're lurking, it's possible to go through the thread and read the context beyond the last post you saw. It's just "Is this person's opening the tone of someone that's playing for town?" and "Is it just opportunistic for people to criticise filler/bloat?". Also I feel like it's fine for people to make long posts? I would rather spend the time reading a wallpost than spending more time having to clarify, question, and attempt to understand someone's one liners repeatedly. this is what I was referring to btw |
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Post by Fame on Jul 10, 2023 12:22:02 GMT
Criticising thread bloat/filler is valid and I agree it makes Neo look townie. At the same time I'm kind of wary of townreading for this though. The thread has to start somehow and I can't really expect anyone to have any substantial contribution if they're quite literally the first to post in the thread. You have the advantage of being able to criticise filler when you're not the one starting off the thread. So yeah, overall those initial interactions are NAI IMO but Neo comes out of it looking better. looking at this post. not really liking it for now. why are you answering neo's questions for them btw hmmmmmmmm What don’t you like about it? What do you disagree with? Also what question in your post did I answer that was specifically for Neo? I TLDR’d what you said you were confused about because you hadn’t read, and I made a comment on people making wallposts. ?_? |
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Post by Crespo on Jul 10, 2023 12:26:28 GMT
is the page 1 goofy ahh guess the number to be taken seriously or what? I don't think so, note that I am looking for some softs from winsy there if anywhat benefits come from you pointing out a potential soft |
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Post by cyan on Jul 10, 2023 13:00:02 GMT
vote: cyan talon staffhate is fun admit it you're salty i got you turbokilled d1 last game |
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Post by cyan on Jul 10, 2023 13:05:45 GMT
okay i'm going to actually pull a 180 on everything i've done up to this point and say that i sl clem for their recent string of posts. it's frankly kinda weird that they're making blatant attempts at banter (with less substance than 9am fish 15p modexe town!cy trying to stay sane) while other slots are engaging in serious discussion.
granted i don't think the discussion going on rn is productive, and i can see why someone would refuse to engage with it, but i'm not getting that sense
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Post by cyan on Jul 10, 2023 13:14:08 GMT
on a more serious note i have a bit of an issue with fame: somehow disagree with your reasoning for everything you posted here but whatever wont address whatever you think about my posts or how "authentic they are" and would very much argue that winsy is not by any means pressing the thread for content reads Considering you're arguing against the opening filler, how else do you suggest they open the thread/how would you have started the thread if you had been post #1? Genuine question. You came into the thread with the advantage of someone starting the thread for you and came out of it looking somewhat townie. Your reads quite literally aren't possible unless they make those initial posts, so to argue that it didn't generate any discussion / they weren't pressing the thread for reads is kind of weird imo. That was clearly their intention IMO, given they responded to you voting them with "at least you're talking" and voting you back "just to make things interesting". I'd agree that declaring your vote as RVS/something to generate content is kind of meaningless/redundant since it eliminates any pressure you can apply with your vote. But still. this post could very easily be an attempt to salvage winsy's slot. and i'm going to say it's worth considering given that "winsy got neo to speak up by annoying him, i think winsy intentionally generated content out of neo" is a wack ass read when the post sequence looks like this:
vote winsytinsyforgive me for sweating in the first 10 minutes of the game but hating the thread bloat already At least you are talking Last Forum Game was rlly dead, so id rather that not happen again, even if the convo is meaningless Last Forum Game was rlly dead, so id rather that not happen again, even if the convo is meaningless as much as I appreciate the sentiment the previous statement somehow stands and how useless is the "conversation" if your literally giving someone a chance to have you claim your role as much as I appreciate the sentiment the previous statement somehow stands and how useless is the "conversation" if your literally giving someone a chance to have you claim your role I don't think either of us took that seriously. Honestly the line of argument here is pretty weak In the sake of making things interesting Vote neonaruto
it's not how you're talking but how much thought and theory you are putting into your posts. what do we get from discussing the theory of how a mafia game starts. it's just so distanced from the actual words being said in the thread. Every post thus far is about someone's opening and another persons read of it. I feel like it's perfectly valid to ask how someone expects the thread to start/what they think people should open with if they're going to press someone for being filler-y/bloating the thread from posts 1-14. I don't really agree that it's distanced at all ngl. and on a less scummy but equally icky note, there's this angle of discussion that is being continued for reasons that have jack all to do with who is scum. Vote Famei want some progress here. |
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Post by Crespo on Jul 10, 2023 13:14:48 GMT
okay i'm going to actually pull a 180 on everything i've done up to this point and say that i sl clem for their recent string of posts. it's frankly kinda weird that they're making blatant attempts at banter (with less substance than 9am fish 15p modexe town!cy trying to stay sane) while other slots are engaging in serious discussion. granted i don't think the discussion going on rn is productive, and i can see why someone would refuse to engage with it, but i'm not getting that sense i get the read on clem but also like my issue with it is just doesn't clem behave like this as either alignment? (hence my somewhat policy vote as soon as i realised this game wasn't gonna be different for them) |
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Post by winsytinsy on Jul 10, 2023 13:24:09 GMT
I don't like Clems entry at all, it feels like filler, or pointless comments with no real substance Unvote neonaruto
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