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Post by Clouds on Jan 3, 2024 22:16:23 GMT
there is a huge difference between casing someone on the grounds you think they're mafia & thinking conflicting information could mean someone was lying about their role
and i'm not sure if it's because you're mafia looking for shallow ways to discredit or you're just choosing to be dense about it, but sometimes i skip over things in thread, everyone does
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Post by Clouds on Jan 3, 2024 22:17:55 GMT
and only retracting when cudd said you didnt read properly woah it's almost like... getting information that resolves a potential conflict makes me no longer worried about it i didn't misread anything, i just didn't see the clarification. what exactly is your plan if i was to flip, mr penguin?
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Post by Clouds on Jan 3, 2024 22:21:07 GMT
also just so everyone's keeping track, peng clearly doesn't care about his scumreads dying or anything because he's hanging back and not even voting me yet again while continuing to say things that insinuate he thinks i'm mafia. that is inherently a worse look because it reduces the convincingness of his scumread & makes it harder for me to believe he's truly concerned with getting me flipped because he thinks i wind up being mafia. earlier in the game he didn't vote me until i told him to either, so it's just a resurfacing of the same old
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Post by PenguinD on Jan 3, 2024 22:21:12 GMT
there is a huge difference between casing someone on the grounds you think they're mafia & thinking conflicting information could mean someone was lying about their role and i'm not sure if it's because you're mafia looking for shallow ways to discredit or you're just choosing to be dense about it, but sometimes i skip over things in thread, everyone does the way you went about your push feels way too much like mafia trying to get a quick flip out of a otherwise town slot
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Post by PenguinD on Jan 3, 2024 22:22:15 GMT
and only retracting when cudd said you didnt read properly woah it's almost like... getting information that resolves a potential conflict makes me no longer worried about it i didn't misread anything, i just didn't see the clarification. what exactly is your plan if i was to flip, mr penguin? your partner is some lurk inactive slot that is just poe at the end if the day
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Post by PenguinD on Jan 3, 2024 22:22:44 GMT
also just so everyone's keeping track, peng clearly doesn't care about his scumreads dying or anything because he's hanging back and not even voting me yet again while continuing to say things that insinuate he thinks i'm mafia. that is inherently a worse look because it reduces the convincingness of his scumread & makes it harder for me to believe he's truly concerned with getting me flipped because he thinks i wind up being mafia. earlier in the game he didn't vote me until i told him to either, so it's just a resurfacing of the same old am i not on you right now ???
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Post by Clouds on Jan 3, 2024 22:23:04 GMT
there is a huge difference between casing someone on the grounds you think they're mafia & thinking conflicting information could mean someone was lying about their role and i'm not sure if it's because you're mafia looking for shallow ways to discredit or you're just choosing to be dense about it, but sometimes i skip over things in thread, everyone does the way you went about your push feels way too much like mafia trying to get a quick flip out of a otherwise town slot and the way you're going about viewing this feels like you're refusing to look at any other lens aside from the one that's most convenient to you i've given you chances all game, i voted prod over you when i shouldn't have, i'm over it. if this was a t/t game for us then it's horribly cursed but you just... give me nothing here
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Post by PenguinD on Jan 3, 2024 22:23:39 GMT
vote clouds
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Post by Clouds on Jan 3, 2024 22:24:03 GMT
woah it's almost like... getting information that resolves a potential conflict makes me no longer worried about it i didn't misread anything, i just didn't see the clarification. what exactly is your plan if i was to flip, mr penguin? your partner is some lurk inactive slot that is just poe at the end if the day right lol. who? there's like 2 official inactive lurk slots, pass and fort. so who do i pair with, case it if you believe it, this is so level 1
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Post by PenguinD on Jan 3, 2024 22:25:55 GMT
the way you went about your push feels way too much like mafia trying to get a quick flip out of a otherwise town slot and the way you're going about viewing this feels like you're refusing to look at any other lens aside from the one that's most convenient to you i've given you chances all game, i voted prod over you when i shouldn't have, i'm over it. if this was a t/t game for us then it's horribly cursed but you just... give me nothing here it doesnt help that youve refrained from voting both mafia slots and want to start wagons on others during these times and you take opportunities to shift onto misflips while keeping me as an option for these days
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Post by PenguinD on Jan 3, 2024 22:27:09 GMT
your partner is some lurk inactive slot that is just poe at the end if the day right lol. who? there's like 2 official inactive lurk slots, pass and fort. so who do i pair with, case it if you believe it, this is so level 1 i think you pair with an inactive slot moreso with how end of days have gone, its obvious that your partner isnt active or there would he more control of days where mafia flipped
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Post by Clouds on Jan 3, 2024 22:31:37 GMT
and the way you're going about viewing this feels like you're refusing to look at any other lens aside from the one that's most convenient to you i've given you chances all game, i voted prod over you when i shouldn't have, i'm over it. if this was a t/t game for us then it's horribly cursed but you just... give me nothing here it doesnt help that youve refrained from voting both mafia slots and want to start wagons on others during these times and you take opportunities to shift onto misflips while keeping me as an option for these days #1 i voted yoshman & they were my top SR D2, i explained why i shifted off, if you want to ignore everything to say my end of day vote placement is bad then that's shallow #2 if i'm shifting to prod, who was a misflip... what does that say about what your slot flips? that vote was you vs prod, i shifted off of you... don't let it bleed through #3 of course i kept you an option, i've consistently thought you could flip mafia. who hasn't kept you as an option? why is it just bad when i do it? blatant cherry picking here
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Post by PenguinD on Jan 3, 2024 22:37:04 GMT
it doesnt help that youve refrained from voting both mafia slots and want to start wagons on others during these times and you take opportunities to shift onto misflips while keeping me as an option for these days #1 i voted yoshman & they were my top SR D2, i explained why i shifted off, if you want to ignore everything to say my end of day vote placement is bad then that's shallow #2 if i'm shifting to prod, who was a misflip... what does that say about what your slot flips? that vote was you vs prod, i shifted off of you... don't let it bleed through #3 of course i kept you an option, i've consistently thought you could flip mafia. who hasn't kept you as an option? why is it just bad when i do it? blatant cherry picking here because you continue to jump on me and conveniently find another flip as to not rip off the bandaid and have my flip
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Post by Clouds on Jan 3, 2024 22:43:07 GMT
right lol. who? there's like 2 official inactive lurk slots, pass and fort. so who do i pair with, case it if you believe it, this is so level 1 i think you pair with an inactive slot moreso with how end of days have gone, its obvious that your partner isnt active or there would he more control of days where mafia flipped i'm not mafia good lord, i hope you're not confbiased town and in fact just mafia you've complained in another game about how i've worked a solve around you being mafia before and you're doing that exact thing here. like. i'm not that hard of a player to work and reason with if you're forward with me and show you keep an open mind, which i've always attempted to do even in games where i misread you, but these proboards games are honestly more of a pain to solve than anything else just because of the inactivity and how several players with town Role PMs don't bother to do the most important half of their jobs -- post villagery things i don't even care if their solves are completely backwards if they make it easy to tell that they're town. you have not done that here, so if you're town, that is why, it's not because i'm some evil mafia mob boss who's just always keeping you open as an option to flip. if you're never willing to look through that lens, then i have no way of getting through to you ever, and it's cooked if we're talking players who didn't wind up with their vote landing on mafia slots at the end of the day, there's a lot i could say about you! but none of that means jack to me, final vote placement is rarely a good indicator of whether or not someone's mafia and i'd be more suspicious if you had tacked on your vote to one of the wagons of floundering mafia slots since it would've been indicative of a bus, which i know you're keen on doing when you're mafia. so, unlike your scumread on me that is so precariously rooted in things such as "keeping you as an option" and "vote placement", i'm choosing to look past this in your case and evaluate your slot by other means, and i'd ask you to do the same
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jan 3, 2024 23:23:35 GMT
this whole thread
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jan 3, 2024 23:27:29 GMT
i just got home and i have a massive migraine right now so i'm going to take a nap and maybe get a quick climb in later but trust and believe that we are going to have a good long chat about the shitshow that is these last 24 hours.
as a matter of housekeeping this is also a general headsup that i have parent teacher conferences tomorrow so there's a chance i don't make dl but we are absolutely going to Talk.
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Post by cuddleszz on Jan 3, 2024 23:54:07 GMT
schia needs to inspire the room more. POE penguind, if red we chop inactives, if town we just reread thread
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Post by cuddleszz on Jan 3, 2024 23:55:01 GMT
like there’s not much else we can do without inactives talking and I doubt the game enters a period of all actives dead vs the last mafia with inactive town as last alive that’s just stupid lmfao
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Post by iavh on Jan 4, 2024 0:33:39 GMT
I just woke up and I have one thing to say what is this hot mess
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Post by cuddleszz on Jan 4, 2024 2:35:51 GMT
emphasize what the hot mess may or may not be please.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jan 4, 2024 2:49:44 GMT
hello i have remembered that I subbed in. Everyone give me their own tl;dr and their focus for today please?
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Post by Fame on Jan 4, 2024 2:50:58 GMT
Also, Fort Colorcastle I'll give you a TLDR since you've subbed in Myan flipped Mafia roleblocker D1, Yoshman flipped Universal Backup Mafia D3 Kliff (town mason), STP (VT), Micromorphic (Vanilla Cop), Aligning Stars (Town Mason) all died to night kill in that order Prodigu (VT) was voted out D2, Lindauna (VT) got voted out yesterday bc they didn't do anything PenguinD is claiming Bodyguard Cuddz should be mechanically cleared as town through some weird role that sends his alignment to people or something idk
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jan 4, 2024 2:58:20 GMT
i am reading from today, at page 57. If any interaction needs my attention before that, you'll have to give the page number it starts. thoughts will come per page Also, Fort Colorcastle I'll give you a TLDR since you've subbed in Myan flipped Mafia roleblocker D1, Yoshman flipped Universal Backup Mafia D3 Kliff (town mason), STP (VT), Micromorphic (Vanilla Cop), Aligning Stars (Town Mason) all died to night kill in that order Prodigu (VT) was voted out D2, Lindauna (VT) got voted out yesterday bc they didn't do anything PenguinD is claiming Bodyguard Cuddz should be mechanically cleared as town through some weird role that sends his alignment to people or something idk only the last two lines here are useful. Is there a possibility of the cuddz thing being a lie? s!peng kills aligningstars over cuddz there since he's claimed skepticism about aligning's slot and would be looked at negatively for cuddz dying since he previously claimed to protect cuddz or shown that he was willing to do so. yes the counterpoint is that mafia might know that and act around it, but there's been too many conveniences so far & it's exceeded the threshold i'm willing to let him live for. mafia should be going for a bodyguard claim instead of taking what's effectively a 50/50 between a cuddz and aligningstars kill, and they're not don't care how uncomfortable this vote makes everyone, ask yourself how likely it is that peng has just been bodyguard with repeated incorrect blocks that mafia hasn't even bothered targeting as i said i'll consider a pass vote here too & we'll see how everyone else progresses today, but my sights are mostly set on those two as votes barring any developments worth caring about Not 100% convinced a bodyguard kill is necessarily better than a 50-50 at presumably a more important pr (i need to look at hte setup). If you hit something that gets blocked, it kills the bg anyways right?
this argumentation feels reasonable even though im not convinced
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jan 4, 2024 3:11:54 GMT
Clouds can you walk me through why you townread the C7 slot rn, without the Spiderz content a lot of it is spiderz context and idc if this doesn't have merit in your eyes because it's still the same slot he subbed into C7 is destined to seem scummy, it's like in EiMM when you have zero idea what he's doing because he doesn't tell you so you just assume the worst help are we sitting on eimm-metagame mafia reads
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jan 4, 2024 3:17:17 GMT
c7 clouds interaction makes me think better of clouds tbh. What nights did yall get your results?
uh I think c7 said he got his n1?
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