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Post by Clouds on Jan 13, 2024 15:43:00 GMT
damn you guys are not gonna make this easy
but that's good
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Post by Clouds on Jan 13, 2024 15:44:56 GMT
i think the key to solving this is just gonna be whether or not gary & edj are doing this all for show, or if it truly is tvs
and i need more from FTF before making any determination like that, so i'll hold back from further comments for now until he shows up
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 13, 2024 19:38:44 GMT
I'm ngl Gary's entrance/reply to me makes me sr him slightly so let's see if s!edj then he's making this comment after seeing me put gary just above him, do you go against the grain so quickly like that if it's s!edj & t!gary? gut says... kinda leaning no, but it' not concrete enough if s!edj & s!gary, sure yeah why not say that and get the credit if i wind up voting gary and i'm wrong and then edj comes out of it looking cleaner and then there's t!edj & s!gary, which is entirely possible given this comment and the timing of it I mean I know it's kind of standard to push Gary but fwiw I'm not as aggressive as I've been in any game before this. Not sure what it means but it's probably just because I'm not as active and also I dunno how to read FTF yet |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 13, 2024 19:46:10 GMT
not "vouching" per se but it's like "hey don't scumread them for that" and i just don't think i'd expect mafia to do that about other mafia in a way that feels so tiptoe-ish like this So you think there's no partnering between Gary and FTF? |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 13, 2024 19:48:04 GMT
can you explain your SR on him more I explained the sr on him but the main reason I don't want him voted is because I want you to vote me. Also I don't want you to vote like the only person I have somewhat of a read on |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 13, 2024 19:48:55 GMT
Alright some quick generalized thoughts from me Clouds: Clouds has done some analysis on the game so far, and included all 3 other players in many of their statements when making presumptions about possible partners. Although this itself hasn't quite sold me on Town Clouds, it's quite beneficial to have regardless of Cloud's alliance Edj: Made some game progressive statements, but analysis (stated and implied) is lacking. He hasn't quite answered the questions asked to him which is slightly odd considering his early game post of answering all questions 100% honestly. Furthermore, most everything they have said has related back to me. They've kinda ignored the other 2 slots in this game, and it seems only respond to Clouds posts if I'm involved. FTF: Similar start as last game, but as previously stated I'm not sold enough to simply write them off as scum quite for it. For the time being I'd like to give ftf the benefit of the doubt, but do need to see more content from them. Right now FTF is MIA ..nobody asked me anything? "Who, Where, What..." etc is not something I can answer |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 13, 2024 20:03:33 GMT
Alright some quick generalized thoughts from me Clouds: Clouds has done some analysis on the game so far, and included all 3 other players in many of their statements when making presumptions about possible partners. Although this itself hasn't quite sold me on Town Clouds, it's quite beneficial to have regardless of Cloud's alliance Edj: Made some game progressive statements, but analysis (stated and implied) is lacking. He hasn't quite answered the questions asked to him which is slightly odd considering his early game post of answering all questions 100% honestly. Furthermore, most everything they have said has related back to me. They've kinda ignored the other 2 slots in this game, and it seems only respond to Clouds posts if I'm involved. FTF: Similar start as last game, but as previously stated I'm not sold enough to simply write them off as scum quite for it. For the time being I'd like to give ftf the benefit of the doubt, but do need to see more content from them. Right now FTF is MIA By the way when I read this it seems that you're hesitant to townread Clouds, hesitant to townread me but possibly thinking of pushing me if things come down to it, and *refusing to scumread FTF* (using asterisks because I don't remember how to do italics on mobile). Either way, the way you're talking about us makes it sound like you already have a plan for this game. I'm also getting a vibe that you're hesitant to scumread FTF 1. Because you're his partner and you just don't want to push him or 2. Because you want him to be your ace in the hole if me or Clouds get voted. Then again, I did this somewhat to Yosh last game (who also didn't speak a lot) because someone who comes into the game and sees that they're tred by someone (or at least town by poe) is gonna want to keep that person alive. Either way it sounds like TMI to me |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 13, 2024 20:05:14 GMT
Once I get voted we should turn this game from ATE to ATM (appeal to me ) hehe
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 13, 2024 20:07:00 GMT
it's kind of weird -- interaction-wise i'd want to discount the edj & gary pairing, but gary being scum makes it more likely for FTF to be town due to how gary's treated his slot so it's possible that the interaction chain so far is fabricated, i'd like to see what FTF has to say about it once he gets on Idk how to show you but I can tell you that this is the first time Gary and I are not the same alignment |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 13, 2024 20:48:24 GMT
so let's see if s!edj then he's making this comment after seeing me put gary just above him, do you go against the grain so quickly like that if it's s!edj & t!gary? gut says... kinda leaning no, but it' not concrete enough if s!edj & s!gary, sure yeah why not say that and get the credit if i wind up voting gary and i'm wrong and then edj comes out of it looking cleaner and then there's t!edj & s!gary, which is entirely possible given this comment and the timing of it I mean I know it's kind of standard to push Gary but fwiw I'm not as aggressive as I've been in any game before this. Not sure what it means but it's probably just because I'm not as active and also I dunno how to read FTF yet Its your own play of this game, what do you think it means? |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 13, 2024 20:49:21 GMT
not "vouching" per se but it's like "hey don't scumread them for that" and i just don't think i'd expect mafia to do that about other mafia in a way that feels so tiptoe-ish like this So you think there's no partnering between Gary and FTF? Thats not what he said |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 13, 2024 20:49:41 GMT
can you explain your SR on him more I explained the sr on him but the main reason I don't want him voted is because I want you to vote me. Also I don't want you to vote like the only person I have somewhat of a read on Did you? |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 13, 2024 20:51:08 GMT
Alright some quick generalized thoughts from me Clouds: Clouds has done some analysis on the game so far, and included all 3 other players in many of their statements when making presumptions about possible partners. Although this itself hasn't quite sold me on Town Clouds, it's quite beneficial to have regardless of Cloud's alliance Edj: Made some game progressive statements, but analysis (stated and implied) is lacking. He hasn't quite answered the questions asked to him which is slightly odd considering his early game post of answering all questions 100% honestly. Furthermore, most everything they have said has related back to me. They've kinda ignored the other 2 slots in this game, and it seems only respond to Clouds posts if I'm involved. FTF: Similar start as last game, but as previously stated I'm not sold enough to simply write them off as scum quite for it. For the time being I'd like to give ftf the benefit of the doubt, but do need to see more content from them. Right now FTF is MIA ..nobody asked me anything? "Who, Where, What..." etc is not something I can answer 1. Disagree 2. I asked you smth earlier and u gave me "cuz I'm me"..... twice. 3. Ignores the point that you can't make a comment that doesn't involve me |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 13, 2024 20:58:51 GMT
Alright some quick generalized thoughts from me Clouds: Clouds has done some analysis on the game so far, and included all 3 other players in many of their statements when making presumptions about possible partners. Although this itself hasn't quite sold me on Town Clouds, it's quite beneficial to have regardless of Cloud's alliance Edj: Made some game progressive statements, but analysis (stated and implied) is lacking. He hasn't quite answered the questions asked to him which is slightly odd considering his early game post of answering all questions 100% honestly. Furthermore, most everything they have said has related back to me. They've kinda ignored the other 2 slots in this game, and it seems only respond to Clouds posts if I'm involved. FTF: Similar start as last game, but as previously stated I'm not sold enough to simply write them off as scum quite for it. For the time being I'd like to give ftf the benefit of the doubt, but do need to see more content from them. Right now FTF is MIA By the way when I read this it seems that you're hesitant to townread Clouds, hesitant to townread me but possibly thinking of pushing me if things come down to it, and *refusing to scumread FTF* (using asterisks because I don't remember how to do italics on mobile). Either way, the way you're talking about us makes it sound like you already have a plan for this game. I'm also getting a vibe that you're hesitant to scumread FTF 1. Because you're his partner and you just don't want to push him or 2. Because you want him to be your ace in the hole if me or Clouds get voted. Then again, I did this somewhat to Yosh last game (who also didn't speak a lot) because someone who comes into the game and sees that they're tred by someone (or at least town by poe) is gonna want to keep that person alive. Either way it sounds like TMI to me 1. Are you confident to call Clouds town? I'm not hesitant to townread Clouds, I'm hesitant to write him off as town and be convinced of it. 2. For you the same applies. The only thing is I know only 1 of you can be town rn, and for all I care that could be FTF. It could be s!Clouds and s!edj. I'm not hesitant to read any player in this game. But what I don't want to do is call them a certain alliance and then tunnel myself down a path where I have to convince myself that they are that alliance. If I'm forcing myself to commit somebody to a certain alliance, it probably isn't the right thing to do. 3. Are you confident to call FTF scum? I've stated before primarily its a lack of activity and I'm simply not convinced by the points already brought up about him. 4. "You want him to be your ace in the hole if me or Clouds gets voted"- This here seemingly implies that you've not only written me off as scum, you've written FTF off as scum with me? If this is the case how can you be so confident, especially when considering Clouds thoughts towards me? What I'm getting at here is what makes you so sure it's s!Gary and s!FTF and not s!Gary and s!Clouds? Why not? Has my little content and reading of FTF convinced you it MUST be me and FTF? And I don't wanna here this "reads can change" bullshit. Yeah, they can. But this is something else. You're so sold on me for God knows what reason but I really don't know where to take this from here. 5. Me this game is not you last game. Nor can I control when FTF comes online as I am not FTF. 6. Hot Question: What does TMI even mean in Mafia context? Like when did we start using it kek |
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Post by commanderawesome on Jan 13, 2024 21:51:57 GMT
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 13, 2024 22:17:52 GMT
and we're back
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 13, 2024 22:24:24 GMT
ok i know last game i used the tactic as scum but i think there's merit in establishing who we collectively view the hardest to read is
for me it's edje anyone remember what happened last time he said something like this i sure do, it was 1 game ago where it was used by s!ftf as rationale behind planting a vote on clem and not exploring other avenues at least it's not vote justification this time but also like, is there honestly merit in airing this lol it's not a criminal question i just don't think it's an explicitly townie question
even if we dont reach a consensus hardest to read (reading up now and it doesnt seem like anyone has) then im probs just gonna land on whoever i think the towniest is
still deciding
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 13, 2024 22:27:30 GMT
By the way when I read this it seems that you're hesitant to townread Clouds, hesitant to townread me but possibly thinking of pushing me if things come down to it, and *refusing to scumread FTF* (using asterisks because I don't remember how to do italics on mobile). Either way, the way you're talking about us makes it sound like you already have a plan for this game. I'm also getting a vibe that you're hesitant to scumread FTF 1. Because you're his partner and you just don't want to push him or 2. Because you want him to be your ace in the hole if me or Clouds get voted. Then again, I did this somewhat to Yosh last game (who also didn't speak a lot) because someone who comes into the game and sees that they're tred by someone (or at least town by poe) is gonna want to keep that person alive. Either way it sounds like TMI to me 1. Are you confident to call Clouds town? I'm not hesitant to townread Clouds, I'm hesitant to write him off as town and be convinced of it. 2. For you the same applies. The only thing is I know only 1 of you can be town rn, and for all I care that could be FTF. It could be s!Clouds and s!edj. I'm not hesitant to read any player in this game. But what I don't want to do is call them a certain alliance and then tunnel myself down a path where I have to convince myself that they are that alliance. If I'm forcing myself to commit somebody to a certain alliance, it probably isn't the right thing to do. 3. Are you confident to call FTF scum? I've stated before primarily its a lack of activity and I'm simply not convinced by the points already brought up about him. 4. "You want him to be your ace in the hole if me or Clouds gets voted"- This here seemingly implies that you've not only written me off as scum, you've written FTF off as scum with me? If this is the case how can you be so confident, especially when considering Clouds thoughts towards me? What I'm getting at here is what makes you so sure it's s!Gary and s!FTF and not s!Gary and s!Clouds? Why not? Has my little content and reading of FTF convinced you it MUST be me and FTF? And I don't wanna here this "reads can change" bullshit. Yeah, they can. But this is something else. You're so sold on me for God knows what reason but I really don't know where to take this from here. 5. Me this game is not you last game. Nor can I control when FTF comes online as I am not FTF. 6. Hot Question: What does TMI even mean in Mafia context? Like when did we start using it kek
wolves know who town are
sometimes they let it slip that they know
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 13, 2024 22:34:34 GMT
dichotomies usually suck but it's 4p
looking at gary and ed rn it's like
i feel like ed's early dayphase and his later posts suggest a foregone conclusion
going from gary is the easiest to read->me and gary are unaligned feels in part like he was actively working towards that goal
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 13, 2024 22:37:10 GMT
dichotomies usually suck but it's 4p
looking at gary and ed rn it's like
i feel like ed's early dayphase and his later posts suggest a foregone conclusion
going from gary is the easiest to read->me and gary are unaligned feels in part like he was actively working towards that goal
to some degree i think their interactions are fabricated because of the angle ed has taken and the way gary has responded
neither seem all that into it
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 13, 2024 22:39:00 GMT
further with s!edje i feel like the agenda boils down to get voted at all costs
distancing with gary aligns with that goal for at least d1 but idk how well it serves a garyxedje pair on d2
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 13, 2024 22:42:14 GMT
at the very least i think im probably the least comfortable with an edje vote
he feels the most scum pointed rn
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 13, 2024 22:55:21 GMT
Okay, now what about Clouds? Why are both of you ignoring the s!Clouds possibility?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 13, 2024 22:56:34 GMT
Okay, now what about Clouds? Why are both of you ignoring the s!Clouds possibility?
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 13, 2024 22:58:32 GMT
dichotomies usually suck but it's 4p
looking at gary and ed rn it's like
i feel like ed's early dayphase and his later posts suggest a foregone conclusion
going from gary is the easiest to read->me and gary are unaligned feels in part like he was actively working towards that goal
to some degree i think their interactions are fabricated because of the angle ed has taken and the way gary has responded
neither seem all that into it
1. How so, more tame? Further- does tame mean town to you? 2. What posts make it seem fabricated? Can I get some examples? |
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