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Post by TheWhoDoctor on Mar 15, 2015 23:02:45 GMT
Welp, I was just hammered. I am legit Watcher. Also, Rabac, you asked me for what I did as my action...without a night having gone by. If I die now, take a look at Rabac guys.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 23:19:39 GMT
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Post by micc on Mar 16, 2015 4:51:31 GMT
Just checking in to say that im back home now and can actually pay attention to this starting tomorrow after i sleep for like 12 hours.
And...ehh...Id probably pick watcher over doctor in this setup. Or at least consider it. Its hard to know which will be more useful before hand.
unlynch citrus freak Until I get a chance to properly look at this wagon whole game.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Mar 16, 2015 6:55:43 GMT
Welp, I was just hammered. I am legit Watcher. Also, Rabac, you asked me for what I did as my action...without a night having gone by. If I die now, take a look at Rabac guys. Excellent point it's day 1 lmao. Rabbac's main scumpoints to me are A: that he basically has a FoS on everyone and B: what TWD just said. I still don't trust PK's "I don't know how to play Lyncher" defense :x. Q.Q I would've loved to be a Lyncher. TWD seemed to have a pretty legit "gdi I'm dead now so this info doesn't matter" post, though it might've been a bluff with him knowing full well he wasn't at hammer.
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Post by rssp1 on Mar 16, 2015 8:14:15 GMT
Yeah fort, you think that lyncher is enjoyable until you get it. I got it in Star Fox mafia, and as everyone in the game can tell you... it went horribly.
I accidentally confirmed the person that I was trying to lynch as town, so they got nightkilled instead .-.
But I digress. The point i'm making is that it's not enjoyable for everyone. Don't use your own preferences to finalize your viewpoint on something, imo.
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Post by Drookez on Mar 16, 2015 9:16:49 GMT
I won GI as lyncher on PS during day 1 xDD
Coincidentally, Snnivy was hosting it too
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Post by Drookez on Mar 16, 2015 9:24:23 GMT
inb4 Rabac or Fort is a lyncher and TWD is the lynchee
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 13:37:03 GMT
The metagame argument isn't for real, it's just me giving rssp1 a hard time :P Or is itNobody place a hammering vote TWD; he's a dead man anyways, and we can keep up discussion. Anyone who discards town doctor in favor of "town watcher" clearly isn't a town player at all. Also, Fort, WWs are a second mafia, not a single person faction. Which reminds me, I have to make that list for you :I
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 13:51:59 GMT
Just checking in to say that im back home now and can actually pay attention to this starting tomorrow after i sleep for like 12 hours. And...ehh...Id probably pick watcher over doctor in this setup. Or at least consider it. Its hard to know which will be more useful before hand. unlynch citrus freakUntil I get a chance to properly look at this wagon whole game. Do you think maybe micc is suspicious for her D1 shenanigans
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 13:54:31 GMT
Welp, I was just hammered. I am legit Watcher. Also, Rabac, you asked me for what I did as my action...without a night having gone by. If I die now, take a look at Rabac guys. IMO this sounds like a scum who knows they weren't just hammered but wanted to make it look like they were town in their "final will". But why also the "look at Rabac" statement?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 15:13:59 GMT
Here are all the townie roles: [1-82] Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Watcher Tracker Tracker Cop Cop Cop Lover Seer Seer FBI Agent Doctor Doctor Roleblocker Jailkeeper Bodyguard Vigilante One-shot Vigilante One-shot Dayvig One-shot Dayvig Compulsive Childkiller (if any Innocent Child is revealed, the Childkiller must immediately dayvig that player) Bulletproof Townie Supersaint One-shot Paranoid Gun Owner Mason Mason Mason Mason Mason Doctor Mason Lover Lover Lover Lover Jack-of-all-trades (One Roleblock, One Cop, One Doctor) Vengeful Townie Retired Werewolf Hunter Retired Marine (Immune to Serial Killer kills) Miller Hirsute Townie (Investigates as Werewolf) Evangelistic Townie (Investigates as Cult) Tentacled Townie (Investigates as Alien) Watchlisted Townie (Investigates as Serial Killer) Wrong Place at the Wrong Time Townie (Universal Miller) Black Goo (Town; anyone who targets it with an action becomes Cult) Ascetic Townie Private Investigator (Gets result "Cult" or "Not Cult") Gravedigger (Shows up as targeting all nightkilled players to Trackers and Watchers on night of said players' deaths) Nymphomaniac (Compulsively chooses a Lover on Night 1; NOT part of pre-existing Lover groups unless united by N1 choice) One-shot Governor One-shot Unlynchable Townie Town Godfather Innocent Child Hider Enabler Treestump Conspiracy Theorist (Gets result "Alien" or "Not Alien"; investigates as "Alien") Conspiracy Theorist (Gets result "Alien" or "Not Alien"; investigates as "Alien") Conspiracy Theorist (Gets result "Alien" or "Not Alien"; investigates as "Alien") One-shot Kingmaker Weak Jailkeeper Bloodhound (Gets result "Town" or "Not town") Vanilla Cop (VTs, basic Werewolves and Mafia Goons are Vanilla) Hero (If a King tries to execute you, the King dies instead) Tourist (Compulsively targets someone every night. No effect) Nurse (If a Town Doctor dies, you inherit their power) One-shot Commuter Cop-of-all-Trades (One-shot Cop, One-shot Seer, One-shot FBI Agent, One-shot Conspiracy Theorist, One-shot Private Investigator) One-shot Gladiator (Target two players at night; if both alive at daybreak, they are the only two lynch candidates that day) Lynchbait (If you are lynched, any and all Lynchers immediately win) Psychiatrist (Target someone each night, if they are an SK they will become a Vanilla Townie) Judas Saulus
Here are all the townie roles that could possibly be seen as more fun in any circumstance than the anti-townie 1-shot PGO WW (essentially the roles that aren't bad for a townie to have): Watcher Tracker Tracker Cop Cop Cop Lover Seer Seer FBI Agent Doctor Doctor Roleblocker Jailkeeper Bodyguard Vigilante One-shot Vigilante One-shot Dayvig One-shot Dayvig Bulletproof Townie Supersaint One-shot Paranoid Gun Owner Mason Mason Mason Mason Mason Doctor Jack-of-all-trades (One Roleblock, One Cop, One Doctor) Vengeful Townie Retired Werewolf Hunter Retired Marine (Immune to Serial Killer kills) Private Investigator (Gets result "Cult" or "Not Cult") One-shot Governor One-shot Unlynchable Townie Town Godfather Innocent Child Hider Treestump Conspiracy Theorist (Gets result "Alien" or "Not Alien"; investigates as "Alien") Conspiracy Theorist (Gets result "Alien" or "Not Alien"; investigates as "Alien") Conspiracy Theorist (Gets result "Alien" or "Not Alien"; investigates as "Alien") Weak Jailkeeper Bloodhound (Gets result "Town" or "Not town") Vanilla Cop (VTs, basic Werewolves and Mafia Goons are Vanilla) Hero (If a King tries to execute you, the King dies instead) Tourist (Compulsively targets someone every night. No effect) Nurse (If a Town Doctor dies, you inherit their power) One-shot Commuter Cop-of-all-Trades (One-shot Cop, One-shot Seer, One-shot FBI Agent, One-shot Conspiracy Theorist, One-shot Private Investigator) One-shot Gladiator (Target two players at night; if both alive at daybreak, they are the only two lynch candidates that day) Psychiatrist (Target someone each night, if they are an SK they will become a Vanilla Townie) Judas Saulus
Here are all the townie roles that could reaistically be seen as better/more fun in some circumstances than a 1-shot PGO WW (underlines are iffy, due to the nature of this theme): Tracker Tracker Doctor (not as appealing to play as than a WW, IMO, but still fun to play) Doctor Jailkeeper Bodyguard Vigilante Bulletproof Townie (Vulnerable to lynching and daykills; really, deathless at night. Mason Doctor Jack-of-all-trades (One Roleblock, One Cop, and One Doctor do not an amazing role make) Vengeful Townie (essentially a 1-shot dayvig upon being lynched, not ideal) Bloodhound Cop-of-all-Trades One-shot Gladiator (essentially, if there is a confirmed townie, then this role is a dayvig that prevent anyone from being lynched that day. Not as good as a normal dayvig, but a more 'flavorful' role.) Psychiatrist (requires the existence of an SK)
And here are all the townie roles that could realistically be seen as better or more fun to play in most circumstances than a 1-shot PGO WW in this game, in my opinion (Asterisks mean definitely better than doctor): Doctor (not as appealing to play as than a WW, IMO, but still fun to play) Doctor Jailkeeper* Bodyguard* Vigilante (WWs have a factional kill, but with a vigilante, you have a personal kill while still being town, so I'm not sure about this one...) Mason Doctor* Bloodhound* Cop-of-all-Trades (ehhhh... Still not a bloodhound, but okay, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 15:22:01 GMT
Essentially, I believe a person who has a townie role and an anti-townie role will choose whatever role is more fun to play, but a person with two roles of the same faction [Note: assuming just town and anti-town for simplicity] would choose the more powerful role, regardless of its fun-ness. So for Fort, there are eight town roles more fun to play as than the anti-town 1-shot PGO WW, but fifteen anti-town roles that are better than a 1-shot PGO WW. Granted, this does not take into account the fact that WWs, Mafia, and the aliens have communication, but the core of my argument stands. For TWD, there are definitely anti-town roles more fun to play as than doctor, but very few pro-town roles better than doctor. And that watcher claim my gosh what even. My question is why in the world can't I make up my dang mind D1 in any game.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Mar 16, 2015 17:07:27 GMT
The metagame argument isn't for real, it's just me giving rssp1 a hard time Or is itNobody place a hammering vote TWD; he's a dead man anyways, and we can keep up discussion. Anyone who discards town doctor in favor of "town watcher" clearly isn't a town player at all. Also, Fort, WWs are a second mafia, not a single person faction. Which reminds me, I have to make that list for you :I I meant that I thought it likely that I would be a 1p scumparty, given what happened last time.
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Post by Alphajores on Mar 16, 2015 18:21:53 GMT
btw the first role pms had to be rerolled due to too many WereWolves. Its quite possible that If fort had to choose between town and anti town it might have made him lean toward town choice even if WW might be more fun to play as. that was also his choice in first role: 10 out of 11 people have confirmed their role. Aknolan has not yet choose his role. However, at this stage, we already have a majority of non-town. They are as follows: Drookez: Lyncher (target to the left; or on forum: target above in playerlist; or on skype/chat: target chosen randomly from all other players) Discard: Town One-Shot Day Vigilante Stir: Discard: Psychiatrist (Target someone each night, if they are an SK they will become a Vanilla Townie) Doctor Alphajores: Tracker Discard: Town Godfather Citrus Freak: Discard: Werewolf Cop Bulletproof Townie Pk Starrstorm: Werewolf Roleblocker Discard: Judas Fort: Discard: Seer Werewolf Godfather (essentially a named werewolf)TheWhoDoctor: Werewolf One-shot Bulletproof Discard: Nurse (If a Town Doctor dies, you inherit their power) Rabac: Werewolf Discard: One-shot Gladiator (Target two players at night; if both alive at daybreak, they are the only two lynch candidates that day) rssp1: Discard: Serial Killer (Immune to Werewolf kills) Mafia One-shot Dayvig micc: Jailkeeper Discard: Werewolf aknolan: Vengeful Townie Mafia Cupid (Targets player Night 1; all OTHER players who targeted same player become Lovers with target)
I am resending roles. and also, after being a 100-shot lynchproof third party in smalltown he might want to take a break. Im js that there is more for role choice then just whats better/easier to win as
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Post by TheWhoDoctor on Mar 16, 2015 19:38:06 GMT
Welp, I was just hammered. I am legit Watcher. Also, Rabac, you asked me for what I did as my action...without a night having gone by. If I die now, take a look at Rabac guys. Excellent point it's day 1 lmao. Rabbac's main scumpoints to me are A: that he basically has a FoS on everyone and B: what TWD just said. I still don't trust PK's "I don't know how to play Lyncher" defense :x. Q.Q I would've loved to be a Lyncher. TWD seemed to have a pretty legit "gdi I'm dead now so this info doesn't matter" post, though it might've been a bluff with him knowing full well he wasn't at hammer. I just read Rabac's post and thought that it was actually hammer, I didn't bother going back through to count. Honestly, though, I felt that in a GI investigative would help more than doctor...Watcher gets information every night, doctor could end up protecting against WW/mafia crossfire so I didn't really want to play that.
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Post by rssp1 on Mar 16, 2015 20:36:49 GMT
wait. wait wait wait. Did rabbac get the same role twice, and discard it twice? LOL
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Post by Rabac on Mar 17, 2015 0:16:13 GMT
rssp1 YES I DID Thanks For Noticing!!!!!!!!! (ya nub I was gonna point that out) Why the fuck do I get 1 shot roles? ?? Blargh shminegol Yakushi Murasame Tindokerma "Now time to get my ball crushed. Or cut in half? I forget the order of that." No seriously though a weird freshman in my gym class—and when I say weird, I mean weird; the boy has kept a frog skin in his shoelaces for at least two weeks, it's disgusting—said something along those lines. Wasted post #100 Did I do it well? ? Drookez, Isnt there only one possible lyncher pull in the game? (Or am I mistaken? It's my first time playing GI) Combine that with the fact that Pk discarded lyncher. If I was lyncher my target would be TWD. If Fort was lyncher I would be his target. plus why would TWD choose to be a Lynchee over Doctor in the first place. Use. Logic. Drookez. Actually could have been possible chainsaw defense by Drookez. Not sure though. Something imma keep in mind. TheWhoDoctor my statement was bc last lynch count that was up had 3 on you and it didnt include my lynch on you. add the two by Stir and Alpha which in my mind made 6 which would b hammer. Does anyone feel that there are people lurking? micc i know you are getting back but dont hammer TWD we could benefit from some duscussion. Honestly safe route is to nl, but idk. TWD is scummy for the doc toss. Aknolan is the other scummy person imo. Citrus Freak Compare roles to Vengeful Townie. Whats more fun/good to play than that?
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Post by Drookez on Mar 17, 2015 1:42:07 GMT
What on earth is chainsaw defense, came up on PSANON and now everyone uses it ;~;
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Post by Drookez on Mar 17, 2015 1:46:38 GMT
rssp1 YES I DID Thanks For Noticing!!!!!!!!! (ya nub I was gonna point that out) Why the fuck do I get 1 shot roles? ?? Blargh shminegol Yakushi Murasame Tindokerma "Now time to get my ball crushed. Or cut in half? I forget the order of that." No seriously though a weird freshman in my gym class—and when I say weird, I mean weird; the boy has kept a frog skin in his shoelaces for at least two weeks, it's disgusting—said something along those lines. Wasted post #100 Did I do it well? ? Drookez, Isnt there only one possible lyncher pull in the game? (Or am I mistaken? It's my first time playing GI) Combine that with the fact that Pk discarded lyncher. If I was lyncher my target would be TWD. If Fort was lyncher I would be his target. plus why would TWD choose to be a Lynchee over Doctor in the first place. Use. Logic. Drookez. Actually could have been possible chainsaw defense by Drookez. Not sure though. Something imma keep in mind. TheWhoDoctor my statement was bc last lynch count that was up had 3 on you and it didnt include my lynch on you. add the two by Stir and Alpha which in my mind made 6 which would b hammer. Does anyone feel that there are people lurking? micc i know you are getting back but dont hammer TWD we could benefit from some duscussion. Honestly safe route is to nl, but idk. TWD is scummy for the doc toss. Aknolan is the other scummy person imo. Citrus Freak Compare roles to Vengeful Townie. Whats more fun/good to play than that? There are two possible lynchers and iirc one is left lyncher and one is right lyncher; we don't know what was discarded. And you don't have to pick lynchee in order to become a target of lyncher, at least that was the case when I got Lyncher in Singa's game. Thank you for the tip that I should use logic :]
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Mar 17, 2015 8:19:42 GMT
I don't think it specifies left-right Lyncher. But yeah there's no need to pick lynchee, the Lyncher role selects one automatically.
Rabbac is seeming scum b/c of the constantly way too good (note: sarcasm) logic he's using :/ Also he pretty much has an FoS on everyone active...
/me bookmarks Rabbac's name in scum folder.
honestly we should probably either no or lynch TWD at this point. I don't see much to talk about anymore.
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Post by aknolan on Mar 17, 2015 16:17:28 GMT
I am so amazing at this forums stuff... I always check the forum daily until it actually matters
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Post by aknolan on Mar 17, 2015 16:18:53 GMT
oh and I just realized rabac said I'm scummy, yay! that's something new (it really isn't)
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Post by aknolan on Mar 17, 2015 16:24:00 GMT
oh right, rabac you need to learn that drookez's strategy is usually to lurk, and mine is to only say what's necessary
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Post by aknolan on Mar 17, 2015 16:24:14 GMT
and that doesn't have anything to do with roles
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