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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Dec 27, 2017 4:48:14 GMT
unlynch VigVig
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Post by Bomb Moss on Dec 27, 2017 5:52:38 GMT
the fuck are you guys doing
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Post by Champ1604 on Dec 27, 2017 8:37:32 GMT
I want the Vig's Babies Everyone say "I want Vig's babies" since he shot scum c: OR SHE but guys are generally better at things than girls Sexist. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 8:55:15 GMT
I want the Vig's Babies Everyone say "I want Vig's babies" since he shot scum c: OR SHE but guys are generally better at things than girls Sexist. |
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Post by ajhockeystar on Dec 27, 2017 12:40:58 GMT
Hooray, one down. I decided to skim through everyone's ISOs, and damn, FTF seems a lot more obvious now lol. Hindsight is 20/20 I suppose. Anyways, these users have posted nothing of use, so do any of you have any reads/FOSes? Crespo qtballFor now, I am going to lynch cseel. The 2 I mentioned above hadn't posted anything since some time last day, and just haven't been online for a couple days. cseel's posts have only been setup related things so far, barring Day 1 RVS, and now she made a meme vote. I'd like to see something player related from you. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 14:08:14 GMT
Hooray, one down. I decided to skim through everyone's ISOs, and damn, FTF seems a lot more obvious now lol. Hindsight is 20/20 I suppose. Anyways, these users have posted nothing of use, so do any of you have any reads/FOSes? Crespo qtball For now, I am going to lynch cseel. The 2 I mentioned above hadn't posted anything since some time last day, and just haven't been online for a couple days. cseel's posts have only been setup related things so far, Is that bad that I was trying to analyse the setup and figure out what was the best tactic for us to use? And that you're lynching me over some people I see just RVS'd. Also buddy, Toni was lynched Day 1. barring Day 1 RVS, and now she made a meme vote. I'd like to see something player related from you. Anyways, I forgot to unlynch my RVS vote from day 1 and I'm sorry for that. Right now, I'd like to unlynch VigilanteVigoroth, lynch ScorrchingTheaph as they haven't really been doing anything useful (turboing, shitposting) and also I don't like how they brought up CV claiming, as OS Vig could just shoot them and we lose our "factional kill" you could call it and it would give more time for scum to find their partners and would really harm town (imo). This isn't necessarily a scumread, but more so a pressure lynch to be more serious. |
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Post by Champ1604 on Dec 27, 2017 16:27:38 GMT
Post #40187 made by @ajhockeystar The line about FTF, well, seem like they are the perfect so-called "Free Towncredit" lines, when you go 'reread' the scumflip and judge them as 'obvious' scum. Though I will go on and apply playermeta, that ajhockeystar isn't the person who will try a trick that cheap, and that their words are from their heart. Am I wrong, aj? Other than that, I have another question to ajhockeystar. Judging from my own perspective, I believe that my activity is pretty similar to that of cseel, any particular reason why you believed in lynching her instead of me? Post #40194 made by @howdoitagyou cseel, Why do you seem to afraid of making a firm read? If a person is mindlessly turbo'ing and shitposting, which thus hurts town, you would not scumread them but instead just lynch them to 'pressure' them? Also the fact that your 'scumhunting' came out of nowhere exactly when you were lynched, doesn't seem that good. Am I wrong? Not something I really appreciate, but yet again, looking at how few the votes are and that you actually knowing that ScorcchingTheaph is scum as you scum is not extremely high thus preventing any distance-buddying is low, but it is something I would like to keep an eye on. My reads will move according to how aj and cseel answer to these. |
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Post by Champ1604 on Dec 27, 2017 16:29:47 GMT
ajhockeystarWhy 99? Oh well.. Funny is that I see you both online and thus I expect a reply ASAP, but it wouldn't matter since I'm sleeping. If you reply, then don't expect a reply to yours within 12 hours.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 16:48:38 GMT
Heya guys I'm using a unique font face so I feel special and people pay attention to me!
Anyway, I've been thinking a lot about this game, and I've come to a few thoughts:alright, scum buddies please reveal yourselves, we need to work out a plan pls and ty
Cseel is the first with theory, and it's pretty alignment-neutral. Champ has the first reads, and they are honest. Answering your question, I would signal for a roleblock if I thought the other mafia already knew my identity. Though I do have to wonder why you'd even publicly consider that now. This could cry well be signaling; FOS Champ
+town to Zeke/xnadrojx for recognizing the badness of FTF's speed strategy.
Scorrching really wants turbo; NAI but annoying. Actually, if anything it's town-ish, because it attracts lots of bad attention to him. Town tends to be somewhat more comfortable acting intentionally erratically.
Cseel and Champ are making some high-quality posts so far, but they're theory, and if theory was a legitimate reason for a towntell then I would not be bad at Mafia. I will say, though, you (Cseel) neglect to mention that a second vote system for suggesting shots takes up precious time and mental energy, so much so that not even you tried to suggest a shot that way.If the traitor osvig is killed early game, I think it would be beneficial for comp vig to claim early so that scum rb can not cc in mylo/lylo situations. Firstly you can disagree with my opinion but why does that make me scum opposed to just a town having a different opinion? That was a very town-like way to put it. >>Does anyone know if xnadrojx is this rational and even-handedly wise in his other games?<<Slight TR on AJ for doing shit though, pls don't let this be medmaf because it's an actual good theme Insufficient reason to TR. But yes, I suppose AJ's particular brand of activity is towny, pointing out the relative scumminess of different opinions (would scum like this strat?) instead of just analyzing them for town-centric strategic merit. It's weak, though.
xnadrojx's stubbornness on this "who tells CV what to do" matter strikes me as town; he's behaving like a town whose pride was rubbed a bit by being called scummy for an opinion.
Actually? Gotta say I like VigVig's idea of CV shooting who she wants but still being so kind as to only choose from universal scum reads.People need to start talking god damn it. If one of me, aj, FTF or Citrus dies, the scum is someone who wants the game to stagnate okay i got a wild ass idea but I'm too lazy to think of pros and cons. Y'all wanna hypo roleblocks?
Also just putting this out there, now would NOT be a good time for CV to claim. I think she should claim tomorrow; it'll be 7±1 players then, and if one more mafia is dead by then, great, if not, then the claim is statistically stronger with fewer players in the game. No point giving mafia an extra day to think about what to do with her.Hooray, one down. I decided to skim through everyone's ISOs, and damn, FTF seems a lot more obvious now lol. Hindsight is 20/20 I suppose. Anyways, these users have posted nothing of use, so do any of you have any reads/FOSes? Crespo qtball For now, I am going to lynch cseel. The 2 I mentioned above hadn't posted anything since some time last day, and just haven't been online for a couple days. cseel's posts have only been setup related things so far, barring Day 1 RVS, and now she made a meme vote. I'd like to see something player related from you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 17:02:35 GMT
Post #40187 made by @ajhockeystar The line about FTF, well, seem like they are the perfect so-called "Free Towncredit" lines, when you go 'reread' the scumflip and judge them as 'obvious' scum. Though I will go on and apply playermeta, that ajhockeystar isn't the person who will try a trick that cheap, and that their words are from their heart. Am I wrong, aj? I've only ever seen AJ play two games ever, so he may be the prototypical crap-at-the-game-he-hosts mod. I have no idea. However—I have difficulty believing that anyone actually believes that posthumously scum reading a flipped scum, especially so blatantly as AJ did it, makes them look town. Best case scenario, scum who does that is just ignored; nobody actually thinks that's a good way to get towncred.Other than that, I have another question to ajhockeystar. Judging from my own perspective, I believe that my activity is pretty similar to that of cseel, any particular reason why you believed in lynching her instead of me? There's really no difference between the two of you, I agree; you two discussed general theory besides just USD v. DSD more than anyone else. But you did have a bit more legitimate gameplay than Cseel did.Post #40194 made by @howdoitagyou cseel, Why do you seem to afraid of making a firm read? If a person is mindlessly turbo'ing and shitposting, which thus hurts town, you would not scumread them but instead just lynch them to 'pressure' them? Also the fact that your 'scumhunting' came out of nowhere exactly when you were lynched, doesn't seem that good. Am I wrong? Not something I really appreciate, but yet again, looking at how few the votes are and that you actually knowing that ScorcchingTheaph is scum as you scum is not extremely high thus preventing any distance-buddying is low, but it is something I would like to keep an eye on. My reads will move according to how aj and cseel answer to these. The third line of thinking/questioning feels incomprehensible and contrived. Way too distant a possibility for you to bother mentioning. Feels like you just wanted to Have Something To Say about Cseel there; but the first two points are legitimate. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 23:52:55 GMT
Post #40194 made by @howdoitagyou cseel, Why do you seem to afraid of making a firm read? If a person is mindlessly turbo'ing and shitposting, which thus hurts town, I'm not really afraid to make a firm read (kind of neutral read atm), it's just he's said some towny stuff but along with stuff like turboing, shitposting, etc. It's merely just a pressure lynch to get him to post more seriously. you would not scumread them but instead just lynch them to 'pressure' them? Also the fact that your 'scumhunting' came out of nowhere exactly when you were lynched, doesn't seem that good. Am I wrong? Well, on day 1, I kinda felt that people were ignoring my posts (mainly the second one) so I didn't feel like posting at all, but then I got lynched, which made me happy and gave me motivation to reread the game, and Scorrch's posts stood out of the others.Not something I really appreciate, but yet again, looking at how few the votes are and that you actually knowing that ScorcchingTheaph is scum as you scum is not extremely high thus preventing any distance-buddying is low, but it is something I would like to keep an eye on. |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Dec 28, 2017 0:39:01 GMT
Why is everyone so intent on having both a lynch and a nightkill? There's nothing wrong with having just a lynch or just a nightkill. I think we either have CV claim and we lynch, or we nl + vote for shot and have CV shoot anonymously. Let me explain why nl is actually a good strategy. 1. We will never accidentally out CV (since u guys are lame and dont want cv to claim). 2. Rather than 2 possible mislynch/miskills every day/night phase, it is reduced to one so we have more time to see and discuss flips. 3. More time for discussion. 4. Only sort-of con is scum will likely find each other. >I don't like how they brought up CV claiming, as OS Vig could just shoot them and we lose our "factional kill" you could call it and it would give more time for scum to find their partners and would really harm town (imo). This isn't necessarily a scumread, but more so a pressure lynch to be more serious. (cseel) 1. If CV claims and OSVig shoots CV, town will not have to worry about mislynching in mylo as there will be no nightkill. 2. In my opinion, scum being able to find their partners will make it easier for town, since scum does not have factional communication. This means that if they want to communicate at all, they will have to signal in public. If scum knows each other, buddying becomes more useful to watch. 2 scum left also makes it highly unlikely that scum will want to risk bussing (goon wont want to lynch osvig that hasnt shot). 3. Unlynch me if you don't scumread me. 4. Why so serious? >Why do you seem to afraid of making a firm read? If a person is mindlessly turbo'ing and shitposting, which thus hurts town, you would not scumread them but instead just lynch them to 'pressure' them? (champ) How about you make a firm read on me then? >Scorrching really wants turbo; NAI but annoying. Actually, if anything it's town-ish, because it attracts lots of bad attention to him. Town tends to be somewhat more comfortable acting intentionally erratically. (citrus/space birds) Turboing early game is the best way to get reads. If the traitor osvig is killed early game, I think it would be beneficial for comp vig to claim early so that scum rb can not cc in mylo/lylo situations. Why not? Someone please explain in more than a single word why that would've been a bad plan. btw great choice of font. >Also just putting this out there, now would NOT be a good time for CV to claim. I think she should claim tomorrow; it'll be 7±1 players then, and if one more mafia is dead by then, great, if not, then the claim is statistically stronger with fewer players in the game. No point giving mafia an extra day to think about what to do with her.CV claim tomorrow is fine. I'm not sure what your last line means though, since under almost all circumstances, osvig would shoot him immediately. Here's a fun hidden message: Look in the BBCode
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 28, 2017 0:42:04 GMT
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ScorrchingTheaph(2)- @howdoitagyou , Citrus Freak VigilanteVigoroth(1)- Champ1604 No Lynch(1)- ScorrchingTheaph cseel(1)- ajhockeystar Agent Orange(0)-Bringer of Chaos, Zeke(0)-Champ∞1604(0)-Thunder~BALLZ(0)-ajhockeystar(0)-Space Birds(0)-Not Voting(4)- Durza , Bomb Moss , qtball , VigilanteVigoroth ******************************There are 9 alive so it takes 5 to hammer. Plurality applies. Deadline is Friday the 29th at 7pm EST. If the deadline was now, ScorrchingTheaph would be lynched.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 1:27:25 GMT
unlynch ScorrchingTheaph
response soon
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 1:37:34 GMT
Why is everyone so intent on having both a lynch and a nightkill? There's nothing wrong with having just a lynch or just a nightkill. I think we either have CV claim and we lynch, or we nl + vote for shot and have CV shoot anonymously. Let me explain why nl is actually a good strategy. 1. We will never accidentally out CV (since u guys are lame and dont want cv to claim). How would this make it better? Because if we don't hammer NL immediately, then we get the same amount of discussion/reads which could out the CV anyways.2. Rather than 2 possible mislynch/miskills every day/night phase, it is reduced to one so we have more time to see and discuss flips. agree3. More time for discussion. More discussion/reads for scum to vighunt.4. Only sort-of con is scum will likely find each other. "sort of"
I think we should do this starting tomorrow or later in the game imo.>I don't like how they brought up CV claiming, as OS Vig could just shoot them and we lose our "factional kill" you could call it and it would give more time for scum to find their partners and would really harm town (imo). This isn't necessarily a scumread, but more so a pressure lynch to be more serious. (cseel) 1. If CV claims and OSVig shoots CV, town will not have to worry about mislynching in mylo as there will be no nightkill. in MYLO, if CV + OS Vig was alive, and CV mislynches, then statistically, CV has 1/2 chance to shoot the scum, which is the same as if in MYLO -> mislynch -> LYLO.2. In my opinion, scum being able to find their partners will make it easier for town, since scum does not have factional communication. This means that if they want to communicate at all, they will have to signal in public. If scum knows each other, buddying becomes more useful to watch. 2 scum left also makes it highly unlikely that scum will want to risk bussing (goon wont want to lynch osvig that hasnt shot). Still though, scum would be able to know be able to know not to lynch their scum partner/distance themselves and we wouldn't really know whether they inspected their buddy or not.3. Unlynch me if you don't scumread me. lol I've already explained this, im not explaining this again.4. Why so serious? Why so not serious?CV claim tomorrow is fine. I'm not sure what your last line means though, since under almost all circumstances, osvig would shoot him immediately. imo CV claim only if mylo/lylo or if there's 1 scum left. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 1:39:03 GMT
Actually, LYLO is 2 days from now if we mislynch/kill all of our shots so rn, I'm gonna no lynch
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Dec 28, 2017 1:45:24 GMT
>in MYLO, if CV + OS Vig was alive, and CV mislynches, then statistically, CV has 1/2 chance to shoot the scum, which is the same as if in MYLO -> mislynch -> LYLO.
I forgot that town isn't dumb enough to mislynch CV. I miscalculated. CV claim in mylo/lylo is the plan then.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 4:21:36 GMT
Why is everyone so intent on having both a lynch and a nightkill? There's nothing wrong with having just a lynch or just a nightkill. I think we either have CV claim and we lynch, or we nl + vote for shot and have CV shoot anonymously. [Rest of the post redacted for brevity; read it.]
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 4:22:59 GMT
>in MYLO, if CV + OS Vig was alive, and CV mislynches, then statistically, CV has 1/2 chance to shoot the scum, which is the same as if in MYLO -> mislynch -> LYLO.I forgot that town isn't dumb enough to mislynch CV. I miscalculated. CV claim in mylo/lylo is the plan then. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 4:25:15 GMT
I elect to paint Scorchingtheaph and VigVig as CV targets. Please choose from between them, IMOTBH.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 9:19:11 GMT
I elect to paint Scorchingtheaph and VigVig as CV targets. Please choose from between them, IMOTBH. You criticised Xnad or whoever for TRing aj for having sufficient reasoning. I know you've mentioned a lot about Scorrch, but you haven't really said anything about VigVig (besides "Actually? Gotta say I like VigVig's idea of CV shooting who she wants but still being so kind as to only choose from universal scum reads." which implies you agree with him?). Elaborate please? |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Dec 28, 2017 9:33:44 GMT
what the h*ck why have i not received a sekret message back…
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 9:42:12 GMT
His ISO. Not actually gonna spoil the surprise unless you want me to.
Like I am actually not joking when I say more information is to be had with that exact paint (and letting CV choose of course) than any other potential pair.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 9:42:58 GMT
what the h*ck why have i not received a sekret message back… |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 9:45:21 GMT
IDK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY SMH LIKE WHAT DOES xxxxxxxxx EVEN MEAN?!?!?
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