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Post by Crespo on Dec 1, 2018 19:24:03 GMT
every log I've posted has been low effort and scummy?
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 2, 2018 0:18:30 GMT
That might have actually been the worst possible night kill scum could make wtf I had a post I made during the night in which I said “I’m 90% sure a Kaif Lynch ends the game.” I’ll post it still for the other stuff but ??
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 2, 2018 0:21:58 GMT
Thunder and Jordan are both town imo. qtball I don't see how you came to the conclusion of Xnad as the most likely partner; isn't it more likely that if Alex rapidly went from null to a scumlean/voted Alex over their established scumlean FtF that FtF is the most likely partner? I don't see a reason for Alex to bus there so suddenly. I don't place that much stock in the post you quoted for a town!FtF case. FtF's (uncounted b/c twilight) Alex vote doesn't look especially good imo; the progression is super weird. Bottom of page 6 Alex is null in FtF's readlist; the next time FtF brings up Alex on page 8 he's still "just underwhelming" and FtF is most set on a Kaif lynch (which he's been focusing pretty hard for most of the day). One updated readlist from Alex later we get this post from FtF regarding it and an EoD switch to the Alex wagon over the Kaif push. I think it's more likely that FtF was worried about there being no extension and wanted to get on the Alex wagon in spirit; town!FtF imo doesn't switch his read on Alex that hard after a single post. Kaif's minimal interactions with Alex also make him a potential partner, this post is a weirdly defensive response to my asking a question and actually when I look through Kaif's ISO he had me as town with scum!Toni and scum!FtF and this post is a 180 on the townread with nothing else regarding me preceding or following it and that's actually even more off than FtF imo. Hence based on interactions we get: Thunder, Jordan, Toni, ForgotToFlush, Kaif. Toni's correct in that my initial townread on them was based on that early post of theirs, though not a ton stands out to me as town outside of that so the read's faded some. I don't really have an idea of where his mindset/reads are at based on his posts and that makes me nervous.
I'm like 90% sure a Kaif lynch ends the game.
now excuse me while I catch up and re-evaluate my life
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 2, 2018 0:26:17 GMT
Cantius I want analysis on your Toni read. Don't get how I'm on Cantius/FtF's scumlist considering it makes no sense for me as scum to step out of a perfectly good Thunder tunnel to bus my partner who sheeped it. I'm still down to call Cantius and Thunder town.
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 2, 2018 0:27:08 GMT
My 3 thought processes right now are 1) Cantius subbed in didn’t read up and rand killed 2) Flush killed the person tunneling him knowing we’d likely go for Jordan today and then bank on winning Lylo 3) anybody can be scum and is either trying to throw us off or is trying to doctor hunt (and honestly this last part is what makes sense to me) Going to add (4) anybody can be scum and went for the person with the lowest chance of being protected imo.
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Post by Crespo on Dec 2, 2018 10:31:36 GMT
See the thing is Cantius, pulling quotes out of context isn't going to help us. Half of those are me asking questions yet without context you're painting me out for "lurking" which I clearly am not. I'm VT.
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 3, 2018 6:19:05 GMT
while your assumption is probably true (I’m town leaning you for this I’ll explain that later rn my mind is fucked froma 10 hour shift) id prefer to lynch Toni before Fenrir unlynch Tell me why you (were) leaning him town though; I'm down to hear it. Thunder and Jordan are both town imo. qtball I don't see how you came to the conclusion of Xnad as the most likely partner; isn't it more likely that if Alex rapidly went from null to a scumlean/voted Alex over their established scumlean FtF that FtF is the most likely partner? I don't see a reason for Alex to bus there so suddenly. I don't place that much stock in the post you quoted for a town!FtF case. FtF's (uncounted b/c twilight) Alex vote doesn't look especially good imo; the progression is super weird. Bottom of page 6 Alex is null in FtF's readlist; the next time FtF brings up Alex on page 8 he's still "just underwhelming" and FtF is most set on a Kaif lynch (which he's been focusing pretty hard for most of the day). One updated readlist from Alex later we get this post from FtF regarding it and an EoD switch to the Alex wagon over the Kaif push. I think it's more likely that FtF was worried about there being no extension and wanted to get on the Alex wagon in spirit; town!FtF imo doesn't switch his read on Alex that hard after a single post. Kaif's minimal interactions with Alex also make him a potential partner, this post is a weirdly defensive response to my asking a question and actually when I look through Kaif's ISO he had me as town with scum!Toni and scum!FtF and this post is a 180 on the townread with nothing else regarding me preceding or following it and that's actually even more off than FtF imo. Hence based on interactions we get: Thunder, Jordan, Toni, ForgotToFlush, Kaif. Toni's correct in that my initial townread on them was based on that early post of theirs, though not a ton stands out to me as town outside of that so the read's faded some. I don't really have an idea of where his mindset/reads are at based on his posts and that makes me nervous.
I'm like 90% sure a Kaif lynch ends the game.
now excuse me while I catch up and re-evaluate my life lets talk about the switch because you saw the same thing I saw Alex pretty much outed and suddenly decided to start voting for his scumread's scumread you don't need a "progression" to see that also saying I've been "focusing pretty hard on the Kaif switch" is a reach
I wouldn't say he "pretty much outed" but also semantics=bad. You have, however, been deathtunneling Kaif since the start of Day 1 (and on further consideration it makes me wonder why you'd make that nightkill if you were scum considering you'd be poised to push Kaif for not actually voting Alex). Fenrir if FTF is mafia, why arent you lynching him B/c we've got time 'til EoD and I'm second guessing my FtF read since (1) the person I was near sure was scum turned out to be the nightkill and (2) said nightkill doesn't make a ton of sense coming from FtF. What moved you to switch your reads, particularly your read on FtF, so quickly?
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 3, 2018 6:25:28 GMT
Cantius (1) it's possible to place your walls in a spoiler tag using [SPOILER]Text wall[/SPOILER] (2) the comment FtF's made regarding trying to fit your posts into your narrative is accurate. Toni's been hammered at this point but for your other reads my advice is that you consider the motivations someone might have to make a post as either alignment and figure out which is more likely.
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 3, 2018 6:34:12 GMT
Also note that he originally ignored xnad in his reads, then lynches him over flush. If Alex flips I’m definitely gonna continue looking into Jordan My read on toni has definitely evolved into a town lean, so when this flips I’d say the lynch order would be Xnad > Flush > Kaif Toni > Flush should win the game, assuming neither as doc lynch Toni Thing I agree with Fenrir saying about the progression is the random flush twilight lynch (there was 0 need to add the lynch there plur was secured) Canto is stupidly town rn feelsbad that I lacked the ability to read xnad especially after the alex shift Imo this game should be won already Are unexplained logic shifts just the new PS! meta in the time I've been away?
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 3, 2018 6:42:29 GMT
Think my list right now is Thunder>Cantius/FtF? At this point I can find multiple good/bad things for everyone; Thunder's the one I have the fewest complaints about now.
Of course if the Toni lynch ends the game none of this matters.
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Post by Crespo on Dec 3, 2018 7:15:46 GMT
yawn my lynch doesn't end the game
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Post by Crespo on Dec 3, 2018 7:17:10 GMT
I'd be fine with this if the reason wasn't someone pulling out logs without context. Literally they all make sense with context but we'll gloss over that
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Post by Crespo on Dec 3, 2018 16:29:34 GMT
yawn
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 5, 2018 1:40:32 GMT
Oh thank god I've been stalling hoping one of y'all would make that mistake. Vote: ForgotToFlushCcing doctor; protected Toni night 1, Thunder night 2, and Cantius n3. Cantius glgl, I can't stay online for super long right now but I can answer any questions you have.
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 5, 2018 1:41:49 GMT
im doctor n1 xbad n2 fenrir n3 cantius
I'll point out among other things that the bolded section makes zero sense in conjunction with his read on Jordan for pretty much the entire game; Day 1 included.
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 5, 2018 1:45:40 GMT
Also applies to night 2 actually considering he came out of the gate voting me D3.
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 5, 2018 1:53:31 GMT
Check what I bolded in the post you quoted.
I basically played the wifom game n3 after seeing the Kaif kill and listing Thunder above you/FtF.
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 5, 2018 2:11:21 GMT
It makes 0 sense for me to bus Alex as scum in my position; the entire game pretty much had him as a null read so why would you suddenly shift and start the wagon that eventually got your partner lynched?
Also not sure if you're just scrolling through and taking note of everything right now, but the sequence re: my read on thunder is out of order in your last post. I wasn't in the game D1 and started D2 scumreading/voting him, then moved to townreading him and voting Alex over the course of Day 2.
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 5, 2018 2:31:04 GMT
It makes 0 sense for me to bus Alex as scum in my position; the entire game pretty much had him as a null read so why would you suddenly shift and start the wagon that eventually got your partner lynched? Also not sure if you're just scrolling through and taking note of everything right now, but the sequence re: my read on thunder is out of order in your last post. I wasn't in the game D1 and started D2 scumreading/voting him, then moved to townreading him and voting Alex over the course of Day 2. I feel like Alex was pretty obvious scum. My own opinion's that it became more obvious after I voted him and not before, but irregardless of that it wouldn't merit scum!me hopping off the wagon that Alex had just joined and bussing him before anyone else had called him out. (Phrased differently it makes more sense to wait it out and hope it flies under the radar)
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 6, 2018 2:54:19 GMT
Yo. I'm down to talk about anything. But why would ForgotToFlush vote Fenrir D3? Are you asking why he'd do this as town, as scum, or just in general?
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 6, 2018 3:05:34 GMT
As scum. If Fenrir somehow got plur and claimed, then he would have claimed Doctor, which would force a counterclaim, which would gamesolve. Else we would have a clear and lynch FTF for trying to force the claim. I don't follow this. IF I got plurality and claimed I'd claim Doctor. FtF likely wouldn't counterclaim during Day 3 and would just move on to elsewhere.
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 6, 2018 3:08:25 GMT
Basically there's no reason for him to not do so as scum since he has no way of knowing who the doctor is and would continue with whatever his original plans were until he did.
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 6, 2018 3:10:14 GMT
I don't follow this. IF I got plurality and claimed I'd claim Doctor. FtF likely wouldn't counterclaim during Day 3 and would just move on to elsewhere. Fenrir is scum: We lynch him. Game over. FTF is scum: Fenrir claims doc. We move on, and FTF kills Fenrir. Now we lynch FTF because TBZ is obv town. Scum!FtF has no way of knowing I'm doctor when he makes that vote during Day 3. This potential sequence of events has no way of being in his head at the time he did that; you're approaching it as if he knew I was the Doctor when he voted me then.
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Post by Alexander489 on Dec 6, 2018 14:36:35 GMT
aye <3
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Post by Alexander489 on Dec 6, 2018 14:37:18 GMT
was pretty fun for my first forum game just kept forgetting about it lol and got bodied
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