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Post by AlmostZero on Feb 8, 2021 13:22:06 GMT
I had made a post on ani but i forgot to send it and no draft was saved ugh
Basic summary is that Ani is my definite scumread rn. Partly due to PoE, partly because of their plays so far. Alex flipping town honestly makes this read stronger for me, as weird as it sounds. I'll further explain it tmrw
Scorrch what's game looking like from your eyes?
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 8, 2021 15:45:17 GMT
>> Top three are active, contributing to the game trying to work through what we got - think quo / scorr / snaq is the pool we should look at rewarding next phase, more likely quojova bc he's the townie who's consistently working for third party conflict resolution, as you said Is this your argument? This is the only post I can see where you have stated a read on Mr ? and it comes after the post I mentioned. You were looking at Mr ?'s allegations as coming from a town player and were able to formulate an explanation. That means you know he is town or atleast heavily townread him , no? No, and please don't push words in my mouth - I never stated that as my argument, nor implied it. As I said in my previous post, by the post in question, I had him fairly securely as a heavy townread, and treated the argument as such. The townread was due to low activity, high presence - where I read his posts as reading thread, making reads and pushing their own opinions - the scumread on me was just another showing of that, and the only thing that would leave me to consider scum!scorr at that point in time would be for an alex + scorr team to exist - which seems unlikely considering the events that: alex's partner is brazenly trying and get the person pushing alex as the vote voted off when alex isn't the major wagon at that post. How do you see a difference between knowing he's town vs. strictly townreading a user, and what do you think it shows? Did you specifically frame that question as such because you scumleaned me already? Ive reread your iso a couple times but I dont see a reason for that townread until now , Maybe point it out if Ive missed it? As I understand your reason is pretty similar to what Lucas said. >>Did you specifically frame that question as such because you scumleaned me already? Tbh . yeah I guess. It seemed a bit weird to me since I couldnt see you stating a read on Mr ? . It looked like you were just straightaway treating him as town |
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 8, 2021 15:49:13 GMT
Im not feeling good about lucas tring Spiderz for d2 and d3 tbh. He was under pressure d1 from having maj vote and was under no such duress on d2 and d3. Surely behavior under pressure is more important that behavior on reward days ?
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 8, 2021 15:51:46 GMT
so who would we swap with them? does anyone want to swap? Preferably we just swap someone ~suspicious~ out so it doesn't become a scum!majority on one side controlling votes and town!majority on the other side trying to trickle in - Animal is currently the one popping into my head w/ that in mind Why would you think our side has the scum!majority? I feel its the other one |
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 8, 2021 16:06:28 GMT
idk how relevant this is on scorr in particular but I play scum pretty safely where I can and I know I would never say this. Saying this I would feel pretty paranoid about what amount of knowledge would be deemed "reasonable inference" by the rest of the town, as well as to a lesser degree what they might do with that information. As in - what if the town turned on this post and went, "hold on, you inferred that the killing power might be arso-like a bit too quickly". I also think this post is not really the sort of thing people normally would townlean for so I don't really think it's some wifom maneuver to get towncred. do you guys agree? this isn't really something I know the general mindset of players well on so that cautiousness might only be a me thing Eh, in the case that scorrch is scum and that rift isn't actually arsonist based, they can simply state and there's little to no harm posed on them. I don't think town would pounce on him for inferring a mode of killing in a closed setup where have little to no information. There's also the fact that there was no kill day one, so I'm honestly more inclined to find scorrch more agreeable than something town can turn on him. do agree with the wifom part though, but I doubt I'll be able to give scorrch town points myself for this Town wouldnt probably pounce on him , but if I were scum and rift generation was a scum thing I would be reluctant to suggest that idea. I believe thats where quojova is coming from |
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 8, 2021 16:09:55 GMT
we're almost at the halfway point and there's a total of one vote across both threads so vote scorchboth OM and scorch seem on board with getting a scummy player in here for the elimination phase tomorrow but I think that OM's scumchance is probably higher and that partially due to activity he would be a larger asset for finding scum (as well as giving insight into his own alignment in the process) so I'd rather send scorch over as of now. It is worth considering if we will even keep a 4-person town majority if we send over a town and take in a scum though It's a pretty serious concern - if we think there were 2 scum in this 7-person thread at the beginning of this, which sounds reasonable, by swapping a town with a scum we would expect 3 scum and 3 town in this thread, which might make doing anything difficult. It wouldn't be as bad if it were multiball of course, but I still have reservations about doing that. It gets awkward because you start to ask, "who do we think is the scummiest player on our side so that we can send them over there to swap with a player we want to kill", which of course is weird because at some point if you are confident enough in the person you are sending over you might as well just keep them here so we can kill them tomorrow. Probably the best way to resolve this is to work through how scummy we think the players here are, and compare it to how scummy we think the players in the other thread are during this reward phase so we can decide if we actually want to bring over an sr or a tr to our side. Quite agree , The top 3 people I want to pressure as of now are animal midwife , dubz and genny in that order. My personal preference is that we swap if Animal can explain her reads properly , not otherwise |
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 8, 2021 16:16:01 GMT
Anyone else feel like Alex's role and derz's claim could be connected? Maybe rift is something that permanently prevents people from switching threads? Alex's remove all rifts and also move all targets with rifts across thread fits right in as a counter to an ability that deters people from moving across timelines
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Post by OM~! on Feb 8, 2021 18:32:05 GMT
No, and please don't push words in my mouth - I never stated that as my argument, nor implied it. As I said in my previous post, by the post in question, I had him fairly securely as a heavy townread, and treated the argument as such. The townread was due to low activity, high presence - where I read his posts as reading thread, making reads and pushing their own opinions - the scumread on me was just another showing of that, and the only thing that would leave me to consider scum!scorr at that point in time would be for an alex + scorr team to exist - which seems unlikely considering the events that: alex's partner is brazenly trying and get the person pushing alex as the vote voted off when alex isn't the major wagon at that post. How do you see a difference between knowing he's town vs. strictly townreading a user, and what do you think it shows? Did you specifically frame that question as such because you scumleaned me already? Ive reread your iso a couple times but I dont see a reason for that townread until now , Maybe point it out if Ive missed it? As I understand your reason is pretty similar to what Lucas said. >>Did you specifically frame that question as such because you scumleaned me already? Tbh . yeah I guess. It seemed a bit weird to me since I couldnt see you stating a read on Mr ? . It looked like you were just straightaway treating him as town I mean, yeah, at most I'm implying a townread by then because I only, like, thought it was a good idea to note down my stances @ that point in particular - even then I brush past why I town read scorr bc it'd just be repetitive content. Even so, why do I need to state the townread to townread someone? |
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Post by OM~! on Feb 8, 2021 18:36:05 GMT
Preferably we just swap someone ~suspicious~ out so it doesn't become a scum!majority on one side controlling votes and town!majority on the other side trying to trickle in - Animal is currently the one popping into my head w/ that in mind Why would you think our side has the scum!majority? I feel its the other one I stated this before, but it's just paranoia really - I'm only feeling good about like, 3 slots at the moment, so any of the other 10 could be scum. I mentioned this early but I mean ~suspicious~ as in like, "volatile read that could be scum but nobody rlly is seeing it through / feeling it super hard atm", so it's a lower chance of scum than say, a hard, entire game sr but still able to like get progress forward through a pl switch |
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Post by OM~! on Feb 8, 2021 18:36:18 GMT
If this makes sense
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Post by OM~! on Feb 8, 2021 18:37:21 GMT
Also quo, I kinda want to hear your expanded opinion on OM. I personally feel like OM's part of my towncore due to their extended omnipresence and overall (here comes my fav word) scumhunting (off topic, 250th post yahoo) sus |
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Post by OM~! on Feb 8, 2021 18:37:53 GMT
I had made a post on ani but i forgot to send it and no draft was saved ugh Basic summary is that Ani is my definite scumread rn. Partly due to PoE, partly because of their plays so far. Alex flipping town honestly makes this read stronger for me, as weird as it sounds. I'll further explain it tmrw Scorrch what's game looking like from your eyes? Okay I actually want to see that post so could you give something a little more expansive than this here? |
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Post by OM~! on Feb 8, 2021 18:38:16 GMT
Like, that read doesn't tell me anything - toss us the details
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Post by quojova on Feb 8, 2021 19:31:41 GMT
Also quo, I kinda want to hear your expanded opinion on OM. I personally feel like OM's part of my towncore due to their extended omnipresence and overall (here comes my fav word) scumhunting (off topic, 250th post yahoo) Going to be brief because I'm on mobile and I have other things I want to get to (which you will see shortly) but in general I haven't seen anything in particular that I don't think OM wouldn't be able to replicate. Funnily enough on first read I though the ~suspicious~ thing felt like it carried some town energy because it implied the main message rather than directly stating it but I will have to check later if I actually buy into it significantly. |
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Post by quojova on Feb 8, 2021 19:40:01 GMT
Ok very important post coming
So part of my ability is that I am immune to nightkills for the first three nights of the game. Furthermore, if I am attacked during those three nights it is revealed to me that I was attacked and the name of my attacker.
Last night I was attacked by AZ.
The downside I haven't mentioned which presumably balances out this pretty OP role is that if I would have died within the first three nights I die unblockably on the fourth night, so it's actually only a delay of death rather than a real self-protect.
I tried to provoke discussion around az to draw connections but I wanted to get this out a good amount of time before EoD so we could discuss
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Post by OM~! on Feb 8, 2021 21:38:12 GMT
why did we waste our time arguing if AZ was scum or not ._.
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Post by quojova on Feb 8, 2021 21:51:04 GMT
why did we waste our time arguing if AZ was scum or not ._. So I could determine your alignment relative to his |
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Post by OM~! on Feb 8, 2021 21:53:34 GMT
why did we waste our time arguing if AZ was scum or not ._. So I could determine your alignment relative to his Understandable |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 8, 2021 23:01:48 GMT
Votecount Update 3.1
Roughly 6 hours remain. If the deadline were to hit, scorrchingtheaph would be rewarded.
Message me if there's an issue with the votes.
Countdown Clock
Votecount sheet
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Post by quojova on Feb 8, 2021 23:16:46 GMT
Apparently litt's inspect was fake
Which is sad
But now according to what he said before bgb should be able to publish his info?
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Post by OM~! on Feb 8, 2021 23:27:56 GMT
If it's a team of 3, my bet is on that scum is litt / spiderz / az
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Post by OM~! on Feb 8, 2021 23:28:34 GMT
Does feel like litt / derz are a pair based on my latest read through of past, az / litt I've alr pointed out earlier
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Feb 8, 2021 23:53:03 GMT
Vote: AlmostZero
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Post by quojova on Feb 8, 2021 23:55:43 GMT
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Feb 8, 2021 23:56:11 GMT
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