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Post by AlmostZero on Feb 10, 2021 11:33:58 GMT
Ok very important post coming So part of my ability is that I am immune to nightkills for the first three nights of the game. Furthermore, if I am attacked during those three nights it is revealed to me that I was attacked and the name of my attacker. Last night I was attacked by AZ. The downside I haven't mentioned which presumably balances out this pretty OP role is that if I would have died within the first three nights I die unblockably on the fourth night, so it's actually only a delay of death rather than a real self-protect. I tried to provoke discussion around az to draw connections but I wanted to get this out a good amount of time before EoD so we could discuss So sorry for the extremely delayed reply, uni + timezone messes up a lot of things This warrants a claim from my side. I have two powers, firstly I have the power to see how many people in total so far I've been targeted. Doing basic math allows me to deduce how many people targeted me that night. Secondly, once I've been targeted 5 times in total, I have the ability to essentially pull someone from the other thread to my current thread. Night one I was targeted once, night two I was targeted once, and night three I was targeted twice. i have absolutely no idea how i killed quo when my abilities literally don't allow me to even target anyone Eitherway, I'm confident that this is a lylo-like situation and I have absolutely no idea what happens when scum dominates this thread, and that scares me |
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Post by AlmostZero on Feb 10, 2021 11:58:50 GMT
i didn't mean it to have that much whitespacing, anyway I had made a post on ani but i forgot to send it and no draft was saved ugh Basic summary is that Ani is my definite scumread rn. Partly due to PoE, partly because of their plays so far. Alex flipping town honestly makes this read stronger for me, as weird as it sounds. I'll further explain it tmrw Scorrch what's game looking like from your eyes? Okay I actually want to see that post so could you give something a little more expansive than this here? My initial read on Ani still stands, where there's still a mix of lack of proactive scumhunting and just an overall lack of proper game contributions, but I don't want to make that the highlight of the post Alex flipping town honestly made me more confident on this read than it should have. Their day two was really weird, wherein they heavy TR'd Alex because they related to their emotional plays and believed that it's a town!alex's outcry. This strikes really weird to me, however it is yet understandable to some degree and I do want to ask a few questions about it, although I'll do that at the end of the post. But what makes this alex!town flip weirder was Ani's subjectively weak read. Their unwavering lynch was based off a misunderstanding that happened day one, and beyond that I just haven't seen much from them. Examining these two, I'm genuinely inclining towards the fact that Ani tried to park a lynch on AZ but never pushed them so as to let the Alex wagon happen. It seems like they were going for a "I told you so!" approach, which just comes off as really scummy in my eyes |
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Post by AlmostZero on Feb 10, 2021 12:11:19 GMT
i didn't mean it to have that much whitespacing, anyway Okay I actually want to see that post so could you give something a little more expansive than this here? My initial read on Ani still stands, where there's still a mix of lack of proactive scumhunting and just an overall lack of proper game contributions, but I don't want to make that the highlight of the post Alex flipping town honestly made me more confident on this read than it should have. Their day two was really weird, wherein they heavy TR'd Alex because they related to their emotional plays and believed that it's a town!alex's outcry. This strikes really weird to me, however it is yet understandable to some degree and I do want to ask a few questions about it, although I'll do that at the end of the post. But what makes this alex!town flip weirder was Ani's subjectively weak read. Their unwavering lynch was based off a misunderstanding that happened day one, and beyond that I just haven't seen much from them. Examining these two, I'm genuinely inclining towards the fact that Ani tried to park a lynch on AZ but never pushed them so as to let the Alex wagon happen. It seems like they were going for a "I told you so!" approach, which just comes off as really scummy in my eyes I literally forgot to add the entire footer and sent the post too early mistakenly Ani's been seemingly given a free pass for so long, and I still don't see what convinces people that they're necessarily town Animal Midwife how would you differentiate between scum!Alex and town!Alex? How would they have to behave differently for you to believe that they're scum? |
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Post by AlmostZero on Feb 10, 2021 12:14:20 GMT
i literally can't talk about quo's claim thing with quo and i hate it, i'm still really confused w/ his claim and i want to know more, because rn there is physically no way for me to even target someone anyway i'll reread chaos too although just from yday i like this slot way more than i thought i will Town wouldnt probably pounce on him , but if I were scum and rift generation was a scum thing I would be reluctant to suggest that idea. I believe thats where quojova is coming from I don't exactly get why scum would be reluctant to suggest that idea though? |
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Post by AlmostZero on Feb 10, 2021 12:18:21 GMT
Eitherway, screw my timezones and I won't have access to PC until same time tomorrow, will probably read and reply on phone but it's hard From the past thread d4 my read on litt has definitely skyrocketed. Things like this are just something I don't expect scum to just outright say in daytime, and I really do give this slot townpoints for this |
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 10, 2021 19:24:59 GMT
Turns out quojova was gambitting , good thing I read the other thread before instavoting AZ
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 10, 2021 19:25:23 GMT
but we know for sure that there is one scum here , since there was a kill
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 10, 2021 19:26:28 GMT
You two should cross btw , while I prepare to choke
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Post by AlmostZero on Feb 11, 2021 13:02:38 GMT
I need to wake up early for uni tomorrow and had a paper due, so I won't get too long to post so I'll try my best to send as much content as possible. Was hoping that I'll get something from Ani before EoD but meh Right now I would much rather have past send us a more scum-leaning player like dubz and bgb over town. I was half considering wanting scorrch back because I still not the biggest fan of the slot. The things quo finds townie about this slot is found what I find NAI/scumlean; the fact that scorrch's fair share of posts are more mechanical-leaning and don't exactly pertain to a gamesolving direction, although lately I feel like my opinion there is changing. I'm starting to like scorrch slightly more, although they're still near neutral for me. Although there's also the fact that Lucas can send us scorrch. I'll properly reread dubz and bgb, but by pure PoE those slots are my biggest concerns after ani. Quo weird question but judging by what happened to scorrch, is it possible to vote you and make you lose access to your current role to ensure that you don't die tonight? Lynch Animal Midwife |
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Post by Animal Midwife on Feb 11, 2021 15:36:33 GMT
Need time to get my laptop charged, but from looking at the only 3 alive in the group it's almost braindead simple.
Take 3 for obvious wolf.
Yeet Zero
If y'all have any questions in the meantime, let me know and I'll address them in my later catch-up.
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 11, 2021 16:13:04 GMT
Yo Animal Midwife , could you do a proper scumcase on AZ for me , I dont see how he is obvious wolf yet Im not sure what to make of AZ's excessive thoughts on the other thread given how he is in a life or death situation . Could be town genuinely concerned about what happens after he dies or could be scum trying to deflect |
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 11, 2021 16:16:31 GMT
Also am should claim , and the people on the other thread should say if they targetted AZ at any point would help
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Post by Animal Midwife on Feb 11, 2021 21:04:26 GMT
So my case on Zero, as has been since D1, is they never do anything beyond surface-level scumhunting. They spent D1 talking about theory only to vote for Alex because they were being "anti-village", not because they were scum, mind you. They were also counterwagon, so probably had to make due.
They never participate in awarding which in this thread is a rare thing for villagers not to do.
And they've been getting upset every time I got village read but never actually tried to yeet me until they got deadlocked into killing tonight.
As, the mechanical kicker, I strongly suspect my ability is why they were unable to kill N1.
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if they were with spiderz.
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Post by Animal Midwife on Feb 11, 2021 21:07:26 GMT
i didn't mean it to have that much whitespacing, anyway My initial read on Ani still stands, where there's still a mix of lack of proactive scumhunting and just an overall lack of proper game contributions, but I don't want to make that the highlight of the post Alex flipping town honestly made me more confident on this read than it should have. Their day two was really weird, wherein they heavy TR'd Alex because they related to their emotional plays and believed that it's a town!alex's outcry. This strikes really weird to me, however it is yet understandable to some degree and I do want to ask a few questions about it, although I'll do that at the end of the post. But what makes this alex!town flip weirder was Ani's subjectively weak read. Their unwavering lynch was based off a misunderstanding that happened day one, and beyond that I just haven't seen much from them. Examining these two, I'm genuinely inclining towards the fact that Ani tried to park a lynch on AZ but never pushed them so as to let the Alex wagon happen. It seems like they were going for a "I told you so!" approach, which just comes off as really scummy in my eyes I literally forgot to add the entire footer and sent the post too early mistakenly Ani's been seemingly given a free pass for so long, and I still don't see what convinces people that they're necessarily town Animal Midwife how would you differentiate between scum!Alex and town!Alex? How would they have to behave differently for you to believe that they're scum? As I said before, his push on you made total sense. It wasn't the tone, but who he was suspecting and why that made me village read him. You OMGUS'd him after that and have desperately trying to invade the village bloc ever since. |
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Post by Animal Midwife on Feb 11, 2021 21:18:47 GMT
I still have to actually look through the other thread but I saw I was tagged for night actions. I did not act on Zero N3.
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 11, 2021 21:36:58 GMT
Whats a mechanical kicker?
what do you mean "never participate in awarding"
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Post by Animal Midwife on Feb 11, 2021 21:44:23 GMT
Whats a mechanical kicker? what do you mean "never participate in awarding" A mechanistical reason Zero should be wolf if more is needed than my content arguments. I mean Zero didn't bother to vote in the award vote yesterday. I missed 95% of the cycle and was still able to make an informed decision based on my village reads. If they were around the whole day, why didn't they vote? |
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 11, 2021 21:57:42 GMT
>A mechanistical reason Zero should be wolf if more is needed than my content arguments.
dont think I follow , when you said you were the mechanical kicker I thought you were claiming your role
>I mean Zero didn't bother to vote in the award vote yesterday. I missed 95% of the cycle and was still able to make an informed decision based on my village reads. If they were around the whole day, why didn't they vote?
If you had read through what happened yesterday , you would realize that no one volunteered for that reward . It wasnt just a matter of voting your strongest village read
>And they've been getting upset every time I got village read but never actually tried to yeet me until they got deadlocked into killing tonight.
Afaik he has been saying he scumreads you even since Alex vote
Could you answer these questions for me :
1) Why did you think OM was scum and Alex was not? Iirc you were tring alex coz you said his emotion was towny. I got the same kind of vibe from OM at that point
2) Why did you think Mr ? was town. You described him as being sorta wolfy d1 , and he was your top townread d2. Could you point me towards the posts that changed your mind?
3) Pls claim role
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 11, 2021 21:58:12 GMT
btw , I didnt vote yday either . Most people didnt
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 11, 2021 22:05:15 GMT
Also what do you both think of the idea that the confscum may be in one of quo/Mr ? or that scum could have ability to kill across timelines?
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Post by Animal Midwife on Feb 11, 2021 22:12:35 GMT
>A mechanistical reason Zero should be wolf if more is needed than my content arguments. dont think I follow , when you said you were the mechanical kicker I thought you were claiming your role >I mean Zero didn't bother to vote in the award vote yesterday. I missed 95% of the cycle and was still able to make an informed decision based on my village reads. If they were around the whole day, why didn't they vote? If you had read through what happened yesterday , you would realize that no one volunteered for that reward . It wasnt just a matter of voting your strongest village read >And they've been getting upset every time I got village read but never actually tried to yeet me until they got deadlocked into killing tonight. Afaik he has been saying he scumreads you even since Alex vote Could you answer these questions for me : 1) Why did you think OM was scum and Alex was not? Iirc you were tring alex coz you said his emotion was towny. I got the same kind of vibe from OM at that point 2) Why did you think Mr ? was town. You described him as being sorta wolfy d1 , and he was your top townread d2. Could you point me towards the posts that changed your mind? 3) Pls claim role No, I didn't realize I was suppose to claim my role. Is there a solving benefit to that? People shouldn't have to volunteer outside of D1 imo. From there it should be more like if they want to speak up because they don't want to move threads. Yes. First because I'm w/w with Alex. Then because I'm being village read too easily. And now because he's trapped and can't scumcase you. Because OM was also pushing on Alex what what I thought were dumb reasons. Aggro =/= wolf. OM didn't display any emotion that I saw. scorr was because he seemed more open to flipping Zero after Alex. Not sure why he attempted rewarded Zero the next day, but I have him as a slight village lean still. |
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Post by Animal Midwife on Feb 11, 2021 22:13:09 GMT
btw , I didnt vote yday either . Most people didnt That's lame and you and the rest should do better next time. |
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Post by Animal Midwife on Feb 11, 2021 22:14:09 GMT
Also what do you both think of the idea that the confscum may be in one of quo/Mr ? or that scum could have ability to kill across timelines? The former I could only see scorr as a wolf. Quo is pretty solidly village to me. The latter I have no opinions about. |
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Post by chaostrodon on Feb 11, 2021 23:10:05 GMT
Your takes made me wonder if we were playing the same game , so I had to go back and reread everything , so thanks for that. ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/74075/ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/74182/These posts sound emotional and confrontational to me. Did you think they are fake? Why so? Btw , since OM flipped 3rd party scum his views on Alex might as well have been genuine Mr ? never said he scumread AZ. His biggest scumreads were OM , litt and he specifically stated he couldnt read AZ. Notwithstanding that , putting someone on the TOP of your townread list just because they share your scumread is just meh. Please dont try to paint yourself as being townie for coming in last second and voting quo. You didnt even bother to ask him whether he would like to switch or not. If someone had voted me like that yday , I would have been angry coz I wanted to stay Given that there is one scum def in one of you/AZ/Mr ? if we are assuming scum can kill only in their thread , it would help me a lot if you could claim |
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Post by Animal Midwife on Feb 11, 2021 23:36:07 GMT
Your takes made me wonder if we were playing the same game , so I had to go back and reread everything , so thanks for that. ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/74075/ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/74182/These posts sound emotional and confrontational to me. Did you think they are fake? Why so? Btw , since OM flipped 3rd party scum his views on Alex might as well have been genuine Mr ? never said he scumread AZ. His biggest scumreads were OM , litt and he specifically stated he couldnt read AZ. Notwithstanding that , putting someone on the TOP of your townread list just because they share your scumread is just meh. Please dont try to paint yourself as being townie for coming in last second and voting quo. You didnt even bother to ask him whether he would like to switch or not. If someone had voted me like that yday , I would have been angry coz I wanted to stay Given that there is one scum def in one of you/AZ/Mr ? if we are assuming scum can kill only in their thread , it would help me a lot if you could claim Meh. Looks like someone focusing on how he's being "anti-village" and not trying to figure out if that antivillageness is villagey or wolfy. I don't see that as emotional or something a wolf would be less likely to say. Maybe he did actually think this would hurt village's chances, but wolves also hurt village's chances, ya know? I swear scorr said he'd let the Zero yeet go through D2 if it came down to it. I think that's a good start when I have no meta to work with. Go with raw reads/votes and build from there. I'm not painting myself as villagey. I'm just saying it's antivillage not to vote. I don't care what anyone say. Even if we don't pick the same candidate, at least it's something to talk about down the road when those voted for and voting eventually flip. If the claim will help you vote correctly, I guess I can tell you. I'm a temporal displacer, meaning I can force someone's actions onto a random person in the other thread. |
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