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Post by Brady1014 on Jun 9, 2021 1:15:30 GMT
I think I'm in-line to be lynched in a few hours if arby posts proper formatting so I'll try to respond fairly quick here
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Post by Brady1014 on Jun 9, 2021 1:16:20 GMT
For now,
Unvote mightycannon, Vote PTSD
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Post by Brady1014 on Jun 9, 2021 1:17:09 GMT
Reasoning is p much the same as before. I think Brady and PTSD are both slots that need to be removed from the game. While I prefer PTSD, I don’t see traction anymore and I’m going to take the opportunity to vote Brady that I see Also this isn't reasoning more-so than describing what a lynch is |
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Ocean
Innocent Child
I heard you was givin' your chain away, that's kinda like givin' your fame away
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Post by Ocean on Jun 9, 2021 1:27:18 GMT
Concept: Don't edit your posts (you can't do it on chat so i don't know why any of you would do it on forums!) Other concept: post your thoughts on me, now. I am not sure what your obsession is with me, but for some reason my name is in my mouth and regardless of whether or not you stand by the points you raised in that last post of yours (you know, the one you edited and failed to edit cleanly!), the fact of the matter is that those thoughts crossed your mind at some point (either as a confused townie or a disorganized wolf) Make it make sense. I'm too busy to clarify all of this now and I am still not sure as to what I meant. Also I don't what you mean by the "failed to edit cleanly' since I never deleted it in when I edited the message as I had deleted it beforehand. The filler comments where just filler again I don't feel the need to push for d1 filler which is to be expected and your other posts I thought were ok and you didn't do much wrong but I just didn't see anything that made me want to tr/tl you. Maybe I am just discrediting the posts are not reading through. |
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Ocean
Innocent Child
I heard you was givin' your chain away, that's kinda like givin' your fame away
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Post by Ocean on Jun 9, 2021 1:29:23 GMT
In your (edited!) post, you have framed my game content as D1 filler - I find this strange as I am currently the top poster in the thread: If you think my posts are all filler, you should have a hell of a lot more than just a null read on me. Much more to the point though: I have made exactly one fillery post this game, which also happened to be my 1000th post on this site. Every subsequent remark had some degree of game relevance. If you think there were instances of fluff in there, it is not at all hard to point those out - as many of your classmates have realized, the Quote button exists. What I believe to be quite likely is that you are, be it deliberately or by lack of attention, mistaking tone for content. This is a reasonable mistake! I have a big personality, and on my homesite I tend not to play that down! It becomes An Issue, however, when you make no attempt to distinguish the two. In some other post, on some other page, you asked people for thoughts on my slot. As town, it makes sense that you would do this out of some kind of paranoia that Big Bad Schia will eat you in your sleep and win you over with emojis and mimiposts. As scum, it makes sense that you would do this to feign a sense attachment to the thread and give the impression of having game-relevant thoughts. As town, it makes sense that you would eventually elaborate on whatever doubts you have about my slot or, at the very least, make specific reference to whatever reservations you have. As town it makes sense that you would be targeted in your thinking. As scum, it is much much much more convenient to raise the question and unpack it later. I wonder which profile is more consistent with your behavior! This aggression feels like frustrated town. I did ask ppl what they thought of you because i couldn't make a concrete read on you that wasn't a null read. |
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Post by Brady1014 on Jun 9, 2021 1:31:07 GMT
the way you got that out of 15 words and an emoji. Please teach me your ways, my lord Is this post meant to be sarcastic? (serious question do not laugh) What were you hoping to accomplish with the response from this? Generally if someone were to pocket, they wouldn't invalidate the person they were pocketing’s reads, because if its incorrect you could throw themselves under the bus, drawing attention to yourself like that isn’t the best scumplay. Okay hot-take here but I tend to trust people more when they change their mind about reads more than if they just parroted my reads. Maybe that is a personal thing though. It would also allow you to keep suspicions away from mafia instead of being forced in a situation between a mafia partner and a town member you've been pocketing. Although this may be just my thinking only, let me know if you agree. Instead of making me want to avoid voting arby as a deterrent should, this post evokes the opposite feelings from me. The fear of being wagoned could very well be mafia paranoia as neither OM's read nor Schias agreement with OM's read have been backed with any hard evidence, or at least any that was previously stated. On top of that, neither of the two have moved towards voting arby. Taking into account mighty's vote, this would mean that the amount of votes to arby would increase to four if a theoretical scum decided to wagon after a town!OM and town!Schia were to do so. As we have seen from passthesaltdude, players seem to be adverse to jumping on large wagons early in the game since they "already have votes." To me, this response from arby seems like an disporportionate overreaction. to clarify - it was more or less meant as me foreseeing scum voting me later today whilst using the arguments Schia/OM made against me as a cop-out. It does assume Schia/OM as town which I suppose is an assumption I'm making as I don't intend to really vote either of them today. Okay so if I'm interpreting this correctly, you are admitting to using schia's and om's names as a "cop-out" to draw attention off yourself??? On one hand that method seems very inherently scummy and on the other hand the admission somehow gives me towny vibes. Unsure what to make of this but for now your a scumlean. anyway, to actually respond - I won't quote but I will tag & link, re: Brady1014 [x]🙗 OM is about ~Emancipation levels, micro is sitting at a Caution. i don't really feel like explaining either of these in depth atm, so I won't, but I'll say they're both (and to different degrees) partially the result of specific player interactions, as opposed to any particular traits either is showing. the micro read is more likely to change than the om read. 🙖 as far as Fen goes, was mostly just a jab given our game history. I do think the pocketing this is like, an actual possibility, but I don't care enough abt that to pursue it - it's an easy joke to make, and whatever possibility of truth might be underlying it is overshadowed by players w more thread content. Just waiting for one of them Fen wallposts I love so much<3 He's pruobably like an E-MC 2🙗 i do have issues with arby here, but for different reasons than OM. OM read this post [x] as a pocket attempt, but i disagree w that interpretation bc it takes much much more schmaltz to win me over, and you've got to like, actually sell it. I actually read that post as being on the snarkier side, poking fun at an unelaborated read i gave on a slot that posted barely anything - just a cheeky way of going like "Dude, this read is dog mess, literally what" as an attempt to undermine the read, without having to do so outright. Idt that's intrinsically wolfy, but I do think it's weird that at that point in the interaction, arby had time to punch down against my (v v bare) townread on micro (for a post that was mostly just a vote) but didn't seem to interested in trying to grow any reads of his own, or interact with like, anything else on that page. The fact that he kept up the back & forth with me but never actually tried to get anything useful out of the exchange (despite the callout from his entry) + the disclaimery stuff i mentioned earlier basically just make me think he's not trying to read my alignment. bc he knows my alignment. arby is like.... Elusive Chanteuse levels rn. I can see him maybe climbing up to Music Box levels at some point if he gets it together. 🙖 Judging from the commentary you gave i'm p sure you have a solid idea of where i stand with Pass atm (MoaIA-tier), and while I could wait for him to respond to some things w his own thoughts, I'm just going to go ahead and speak to some things that are bugging me atm beyond the stuff i directly asked about. The whole thing abt not voting Fenrir and voting Ocean instead is weird to me bc his response [x] treats as serious that initial post where he talks abt me and fen being scum. the way i followed up on his Ocean vote, it would've been v easy to go "nah, i just wanted to push a lurker"--which like, okay, fine, not great but whatever. The vote happened in a post that reads very easily as someone just kind of memeing. The explanation he gave on follow-up makes it worse, though, because suddenly you have pass not only being having to answer for the ocean vote, but having to also justify his non-vote on Fenrir and the weird, weird comment on my slot, which seems to both imply that I am town and downplay that implication by trying to stir some paranoia making it out as though You Never Know What Schia Will Pull As Scum !_!. i can think of like, a handful of situations where town makes those posts, but i'm having a much easier time reading them as coming from wolf--so i'm super eager to hear back from pass on all this! Okay keep in mind I won't be analyzing these reads, rather give my opinion on them and ask for clarifications (so basically IIoA if you want to call it that). Paragraph 1: Confused on the micro read but as you didn't want to go into more detail, I'll respect that. Paragraph 2: Okay so I was/still am unaware of your game history together but yes I agree that pursuing that wouldn't be productive at all, at least it started some good conversation from others. Paragraph 3: Alright so on my first reaction of the lines, it appeared to be more of the pocketing / OM issue, but now that you explain how you considered it similarly to discrediting information, I can see either/both/neither being the case almost equally. Paragraph 4: Okay so it's strange that this is the case and I don't want you to get the idea that I'm parroting your reads (although in a literal sense I am), I also scumread PTSD. but I have more concerns about Arby tbh who has been posting more consistent things i dislike. For more specific examples read earlier posts. You don't actively target that and use it for analysis on either slot, it's immediately jumping at it and jabbing at the read. This is part of why the post is scummy  1) there was absolutely nothing else in the game atp and it was intended to stimulate some form of discussion, which it did. 2) agreed with scorr that you're reaching. Don't know why his response was part of OM's quote but I believe this is more of a discussion shifter rather than starter. And it's not reaching that much if you ask me but idk. Seems like They were just bouncing ideas at the moment, reasoning out logic. I feel like brady might be trying a little too hard to sell as town, but Dont take my word for it. ? Seems fine for the moment. Bouncing ideas, maybe. But if that's your take I honestly don't think that's necessarily a scummy thing to do. Also, I don't think I'm selling as town now that I have 4 lynches on me shrug As for the brady situation i’m happy to give my thoughts: so far their messages just read general d1 filler (which with d1 i don’t find is related to either factionj), commenting on things but not giving insight like iioa could be more of a scum trait for certain this early, but i like to give iioa d1 to get some ideas out there, and saying you can understand others reads but not developing on them bothers me a little too, small sl but not too sure. From my experience the people calling IIoA tend to be more scummy than the people actually doing it. Regardless, I sometimes struggle to pick up on my own reads without a starting point unlike more experienced players like Schia and OM. Regardless, okay fine ig u can "small sl" me for that idrk Is this post meant to be sarcastic? (serious question do not laugh) sarcasm with a little bit of seriousness to stimulate some discussion in the game This is fine but I still want to know what scorr's goal was with this? Anyways, I could see the reads being grasping on straws per-se, I'd like to think it helped progress the day past the "hi, what now?" phase. Still, yes I agree arby had an overreaction considering 0 people are lynching him. And not to be that guy but I'm going to be that guy. It seems he is newer to forums. Overreacting I feel isn't necessarily that uncommon among the new. I'm not a fan of noob meta though but it's important info to put out you are correct - this is my 2nd forum game. by that guy, do you mean the person who tries to pocket the newer player lol? Also not necessarily, I was more referring to "noob meta" but ig yea no one wants to be that guy either??? Then I should clarify: What is the "both" referring to Pocketing and read invalidation Thank you for clarifying but this clarification and the last few posts really didn't accomplish anything you more-so were repeating the analysis you already made. Regardless, still putting you as my biggest townread as this isn't nessesarily a scummy thing or towny thing? "Okay now schiavetto I'd like to ask you for your reads on the active players right now so I can see if I read you properly myself. To clarify this: if our reads align (because most of our thinking seemed to align), I'd like to place you as more town-like for now." - Brady1014 (Me) I realize this may come off as a cop-out as I'd not be giving my own reads. And I also feel like everyone should have some sort of read on people by now, even though it's day 1 so "No one" is not acceptable. Regardless, OM is my only decently solid townlean as of right now as he basically said nothing I disagree with. Not intending to contradict this as I do townlean OM, but I may also need to consider he's more experienced with forums than me so this could be invalid i guess I actually appreciated it, esp as it was framed more like "I've been mindmelding with you a lot based on this specific readthrough, so I want to get a sense of your reads on the whole in order to get a better sense of where things are at." I think it's easy to be like "I like this", "I agree with this", etc. as either alignment when you're getting caught up on thread, but the self-assessing/taking the time to dig deeper into those points of agreement is real hecking neato if you ask me. Glad as that was my intention Im very behind oop but I’m here now yay "Okay now schiavetto I'd like to ask you for your reads on the active players right now so I can see if I read you properly myself. To clarify this: if our reads align (because most of our thinking seemed to align), I'd like to place you as more town-like for now." - Brady1014 (Me) I realize this may come off as a cop-out as I'd not be giving my own reads. And I also feel like everyone should have some sort of read on people by now, even though it's day 1 so "No one" is not acceptable. Regardless, OM is my only decently solid townlean as of right now as he basically said nothing I disagree with. Not intending to contradict this as I do townlean OM, but I may also need to consider he's more experienced with forums than me so this could be invalid i guess It doesn’t necessarily have to be a full fledged “read”, but do you have anyone you sr atm? You’ve nitpicked a lot on stuff ppl have said, which is fine if you used the questions you’re asking to form a read of sorts. Also I’ve noticed you’ve been using “experience with forums” in some of your messages (including the one quoted in this message), but forum mafia is normal mafia but with more reading so why are you using that reasoning to show you’re not certain on your townread? Stated earlier my reads just look through this post and I disagree with that this mafia is the same a showdown mafia as, at least to me, they feel and play drastically differently. Just dropping this out there - I have a slight SR on Brady atm because I feel like he's pocketing several players atm and setting himself up well for late game. This is probably my social game experience coming in but just an observation. Not to mention, he isn't really giving any reads of his own but is rather observing and commenting. I just feel like he wants people to know he's there and a contributor without much contribution Okay just going to be quite nitpicky here, stop using words you don't know the meaning of. me agreeing with someone isn't pocketing. Please only use words you understand? That line is super odd, considering you literally gave your intentions to what you were doing, allowing you/them to conform with your reads for an easy pocket. For an experienced player that seems like a slip to me Think i’m going to take this sl and run with it vote brady101 Okay here are the problems: #1 no idea what line you are talking about. #2: I'm not an experienced player #3: Whatever line it was I'm sure it wasn't a "slip Can you guys just use terms you understand and know what they mean. Just dropping this out there - I have a slight SR on Brady atm because I feel like he's pocketing several players atm and setting himself up well for late game. This is probably my social game experience coming in but just an observation. Not to mention, he isn't really giving any reads of his own but is rather observing and commenting. I just feel like he wants people to know he's there and a contributor without much contribution I agree with most of this message except for the pocketing part. Can you show me an example of him pocketing pls because I don’t see where u got nitpicking = pocketing. I felt the exact same way but I still don't think that me doing this is necessarily scummy behavior.. Also again with the terms people don't know, thank you micro for pointing this out. Well i’m not sure on the tactics for d1 in forum mafia, but generally pressuring people into thoughts and feelings (potential slips too) about the game is always useful (there i go fillering and being a hypocrite) This isn't really filler lol tbh. However, I would recommend people a leader in this situation and following through with the advice you're giving others Funny, could say the same thing to you tbh Just dropping this out there - I have a slight SR on Brady atm because I feel like he's pocketing several players atm and setting himself up well for late game. This is probably my social game experience coming in but just an observation. Not to mention, he isn't really giving any reads of his own but is rather observing and commenting. I just feel like he wants people to know he's there and a contributor without much contribution I think you are all overusing this word "pocketing", and I will henceforth be IGNORING any posts that use this word unless they are in reference to Fen pocketing me as One-Shot Deathproof Ascetic Strongman Even-Night Serial Killer!!!!!! Okay I might do the same ngl, only use terms you know please! I agree with most of this message except for the pocketing part. Can you show me an example of him pocketing pls because I don’t see where u got nitpicking = pocketing. His general interactions with Schia just seem like pocketing to me. More than that, he also tried to defend me out of nowhere after more or less agreeing with Schiavetto/OM's reads about me being a scummy slot. It just seemed like he was setting himself up for lategame tbh. post with him defending me by saying I'm a newer player: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/76421Gonna not follow schia's route here and respond to all of this. "defending you out of nowhere" is not what I did. I was just making sure everyone in the game is aware of the full situation i guess. That line is super odd, considering you literally gave your intentions to what you were doing, allowing you/them to conform with your reads for an easy pocket. For an experienced player that seems like a slip to me Think i’m going to take this sl and run with it vote brady101 what line is this referencing? Asking the real questions here, thank you. WORKING ON THE REST, TYPED MOST OF THIS YESTERDAY BUT SOME ADJUSTMENTS TODAY |
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Post by Fenrir on Jun 9, 2021 1:39:04 GMT
I'm here, long(ish) post incoming. It's gonna be based only on stuff I've read up to whenever I last posted, then I'll check out the rest and update accordingly.
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Post by Brady1014 on Jun 9, 2021 1:40:14 GMT
I'm here, long(ish) post incoming. It's gonna be based only on stuff I've read up to whenever I last posted, then I'll check out the rest and update accordingly. Cool |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 9, 2021 1:41:26 GMT
Theaph->Tr Not as active as everyone else but addressed people with good points. I liked his pressure on ptsd of the line ptsd mentioned about brady being a massive push. Other posts were good and has been actively pressuring ppl along with stating reads. Provided more substance in his little lines than half of the pl (including myself kek). I expect more from this slot in the latter days. Schiavetto-> Null There posts have been mainly d1-filler. There non-filler posts are ok but not really giving me town vibes not sure if I will ever get a concrete read on this slot unless a mafia flip happens. I don't understand an OM->Null/Sl (Back and Forth From this) Arby vs Om felt really underwhelming and could have been a misinterpretation from both sides and the whole situation just feels weak. I do want to see more progression on arby from om. Keep in mind om and arby could be tvt arguinging but that's a story for another time. I also don't really understand the arby sl so if you could elaborate on that that would be great. Mighty Cannon->Null They are pretty much afk idk what situation they are in but regardless I don't feel like pushing this null/lurky slot and rather have them sub out if they can't prioritize with the game. Winsy Tinsy->TownLean Knowing How Winsy Tinsy plays I kinda expected these reads. As far as I know this slot usually has a lurky d1 so I can't say I wasn't expecting this. As they are more new to Mafia I'm going to be more lean in terms of asking for thoughts but I generally want Winsy to state what's on his mind currently. I do think his approach and beginning lines were Townie for a New person. Other Slots I'll address tmr if I live or i'm just tired and don't really want to address them until a later time. This is probably my last post for the night. Gn these r kinda like non reads if u get what i mean Unvote Fenrir
Vote Oceandon't want to sit on the Fen vote waiting for a response this close to dl (i do not actually know when dl is) |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 9, 2021 1:41:47 GMT
Thank you based Fen.
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Post by Brady1014 on Jun 9, 2021 1:42:07 GMT
For the record I probably won't have time tonight to make a follow up post to the questions I received earlier, sorry if I missed you but OOG graduation is tomorrow so I need my sleep. Not claiming tho I'm dying by the sword
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 9, 2021 1:44:48 GMT
In your (edited!) post, you have framed my game content as D1 filler - I find this strange as I am currently the top poster in the thread: If you think my posts are all filler, you should have a hell of a lot more than just a null read on me. Much more to the point though: I have made exactly one fillery post this game, which also happened to be my 1000th post on this site. Every subsequent remark had some degree of game relevance. If you think there were instances of fluff in there, it is not at all hard to point those out - as many of your classmates have realized, the Quote button exists. What I believe to be quite likely is that you are, be it deliberately or by lack of attention, mistaking tone for content. This is a reasonable mistake! I have a big personality, and on my homesite I tend not to play that down! It becomes An Issue, however, when you make no attempt to distinguish the two. In some other post, on some other page, you asked people for thoughts on my slot. As town, it makes sense that you would do this out of some kind of paranoia that Big Bad Schia will eat you in your sleep and win you over with emojis and mimiposts. As scum, it makes sense that you would do this to feign a sense attachment to the thread and give the impression of having game-relevant thoughts. As town, it makes sense that you would eventually elaborate on whatever doubts you have about my slot or, at the very least, make specific reference to whatever reservations you have. As town it makes sense that you would be targeted in your thinking. As scum, it is much much much more convenient to raise the question and unpack it later. I wonder which profile is more consistent with your behavior! This aggression feels like frustrated town. I did ask ppl what they thought of you because i couldn't make a concrete read on you that wasn't a null read. Weren't you going to bed |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 9, 2021 1:45:34 GMT
No one is asking for wallposts (except specifically from fen, the rest of you get a pass), you just need to like
do things
and some of you are!
but some of you are not
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 9, 2021 1:46:12 GMT
Is this post meant to be sarcastic? (serious question do not laugh) What were you hoping to accomplish with the response from this? In context I wanted to be able to tell if arby was attempting to somewhat discredit an early town read or if it was mostly shitpost/filler as tone can sometimes be difficult to tell from just text. Taking into account his response, I would say it is a mix and not really scum indicative as OM was interpreting it. |
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Post by Brady1014 on Jun 9, 2021 1:47:12 GMT
What were you hoping to accomplish with the response from this? In context I wanted to be able to tell if arby was attempting to somewhat discredit an early town read or if it was mostly shitpost/filler as tone can sometimes be difficult to tell from just text. Taking into account his response, I would say it is a mix and not really scum indicative as OM was interpreting it. What response would theoretically be scum indicitive? |
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Post by Brady1014 on Jun 9, 2021 1:48:43 GMT
I'm asking this because the question just seemed like an easy one to ask rather than a productive one to me idk
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 9, 2021 1:50:37 GMT
In your (edited!) post, you have framed my game content as D1 filler - I find this strange as I am currently the top poster in the thread: If you think my posts are all filler, you should have a hell of a lot more than just a null read on me. Much more to the point though: I have made exactly one fillery post this game, which also happened to be my 1000th post on this site. Every subsequent remark had some degree of game relevance. If you think there were instances of fluff in there, it is not at all hard to point those out - as many of your classmates have realized, the Quote button exists. What I believe to be quite likely is that you are, be it deliberately or by lack of attention, mistaking tone for content. This is a reasonable mistake! I have a big personality, and on my homesite I tend not to play that down! It becomes An Issue, however, when you make no attempt to distinguish the two. In some other post, on some other page, you asked people for thoughts on my slot. As town, it makes sense that you would do this out of some kind of paranoia that Big Bad Schia will eat you in your sleep and win you over with emojis and mimiposts. As scum, it makes sense that you would do this to feign a sense attachment to the thread and give the impression of having game-relevant thoughts. As town, it makes sense that you would eventually elaborate on whatever doubts you have about my slot or, at the very least, make specific reference to whatever reservations you have. As town it makes sense that you would be targeted in your thinking. As scum, it is much much much more convenient to raise the question and unpack it later. I wonder which profile is more consistent with your behavior! This aggression feels like frustrated town. I did ask ppl what they thought of you because i couldn't make a concrete read on you that wasn't a null read. Like, I need you to understand how easily I write that post as scum. &the larger point you're missing is that you gave barely any reads at all - you just posted a bunch of words with no specific/direct tie to anything that actually happened in the game, said "null" or "tl" or "sl" after them and called it a day. You barely touched on any of the other actual players. So are we to presume that they're null reads, too? Or are they too unimportant to warrant commenting? Or did you simply not read them/think of them? Or do you simply not have reads on them--you know, because you don't have any reads at all? (Because you already know the alignments of the players in this game?) |
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Post by mightycannon on Jun 9, 2021 1:56:31 GMT
Going to say this but the eod aggression on Ocean is not really explained i am quite confused to be honest a vote count would help here :shrug:
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Post by mightycannon on Jun 9, 2021 2:01:49 GMT
eblurb (1am form) does not like the current wagons so he will make his own vote mighty cannoni honestly think town exclamation mark mighty cannon would at least try to do something here and not just use a timezone excuse but who knows. i just think fenrir and brady flips dont really get us anywhere if they are town. all of my previous read still apply. ill have more activity day 2 I really had multiple problems not just timezones tbh headaches yesterday and power cuts the 2nd day |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 9, 2021 2:02:06 GMT
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Post by mightycannon on Jun 9, 2021 2:02:23 GMT
This is just Amazing irl rng
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Post by OM~! on Jun 9, 2021 2:06:00 GMT
unvote
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 9, 2021 2:06:10 GMT
Going to say this but the eod aggression on Ocean is not really explained i am quite confused to be honest a vote count would help here :shrug: This is what I mean. This is the stuff. Right here. You saw Ocean use the word "aggressive" to describe my posts toward him, but you didn't take ten seconds to read the context of the post, or any of the posts leading up to it--because here's the thing: if you had read, you would have seen OM's remarks on the problems with Ocean's post, so even if my comments were confusing (they are not), you would at the very least have some point of reference for my attitude toward Ocean atm. |
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Post by OM~! on Jun 9, 2021 2:07:11 GMT
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Post by mightycannon on Jun 9, 2021 2:07:39 GMT
unvote Arby I am completely null over this slot if possible everyone should explain rn the full reason for your vote Cuz I dont wanna blunder this game considering my bad memory
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