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Post by Sheep★Go★Moo on Jun 8, 2021 18:32:11 GMT
I agree mindmelding can be good and useful, but to me
It didn’t come off as mindmelding to me at all
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Ocean
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I heard you was givin' your chain away, that's kinda like givin' your fame away
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Post by Ocean on Jun 8, 2021 18:33:01 GMT
If anyone has a read on schiavetto I would prefer you to state it before day ends because I am curious on what other people think about them. Vote Fenrir rn I want to pressure this one for my posts but I'll probably shift to a sl/sr around eod but I want to see what there thought process of current votes and players ofc.
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Ocean
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I heard you was givin' your chain away, that's kinda like givin' your fame away
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Post by Ocean on Jun 8, 2021 18:34:27 GMT
I agree mindmelding can be good and useful, but to me It didn’t come off as mindmelding to me at all Fair Enough. |
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Ocean
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I heard you was givin' your chain away, that's kinda like givin' your fame away
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Post by Ocean on Jun 8, 2021 18:35:48 GMT
I’m busy atm but i’m not sure how many posts i’ll be able to get in at eod, so i’ll give some quick thoughts. The massive push against brady makes me think even more that brady is town, and I feel like they are some key slots that aren’t being looked at too much atm, like mighty cannon and winsty. I’ll elaborate more on that when I get back later today! What about micromorphic Fenrir and Theaph. I'll be waiting for continuation on this so come back soon. |
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Post by OM~! on Jun 8, 2021 19:14:01 GMT
hmmm
unvote
vote ?
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 8, 2021 19:17:16 GMT
I have a funny feeling I'll be wagoned by scum for an easy vote just because OM and Schia read me now. (if they aren't scum themselves) This post serves as a deterrent to that. nuuu i lost my post too I hate when this happens anyways I just wanted to say the read on brady1014 is going too well imo maybe it is a scumpushed read moreover many people who sl them are just saying don't mind me idk what to do anything anyways this is kinda a like forum mafia strategy trying to be like ur new Meanwhile I think I am gonna stay on arby cuz this line just makes them more scummy not really much a slean I will get off them I find a better lynch Surely it is not a brady mighty scum team, right? |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 8, 2021 19:18:34 GMT
I think we should all stop filtering our reads through buzzwords and instead we should say what's on our minds. I think we should talk about our feelings. For example, I could say "Pass is posting IIoA [x]", but instead I will just say I think it's weird that his wallpost is mostly just observations and variations on "I don't know what to think of this but it stands out", as opposed to actual substantial opinions! I think this is problematic because it means that you can't really dispute much of what he's said, but it also doesn't really tell you much about his actual stance on the other players. I think it makes sense for town to be unsure, but I feel like in that situation, you would expect town to spend more energy trying to get sure. I feel like it would be helpful if Pass went back through the thread and picked out some specific posts that are shaping his reads, and maybe even gave a full reads list. I feel like Scorrch should also post a full reads list! Sheep★Go★Moo OM~! [power gap] blurb Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ winsytinsy micromorphic Fenrir (neutral) arby passthesaltdude mightycannon Ocean Brady1014 |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 8, 2021 19:22:15 GMT
I’m busy atm but i’m not sure how many posts i’ll be able to get in at eod, so i’ll give some quick thoughts. The massive push against brady makes me think even more that brady is town, and I feel like they are some key slots that aren’t being looked at too much atm, like mighty cannon and winsty. I’ll elaborate more on that when I get back later today! What "massive push" are you talking about? Why is there so much pushback against a Brady vote, when in reality Brady has been under very little vote pressure. |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 8, 2021 19:26:37 GMT
If anyone has a read on schiavetto I would prefer you to state it before day ends because I am curious on what other people think about them. Vote Fenrir rn I want to pressure this one for my posts but I'll probably shift to a sl/sr around eod but I want to see what there thought process of current votes and players ofc.
Vote FenrirRN |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 8, 2021 20:03:10 GMT
I’m busy atm but i’m not sure how many posts i’ll be able to get in at eod, so i’ll give some quick thoughts. The massive push against brady makes me think even more that brady is town, and I feel like they are some key slots that aren’t being looked at too much atm, like mighty cannon and winsty. I’ll elaborate more on that when I get back later today! "Massive" is an overstatement. You are not reading the game. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 8, 2021 20:05:47 GMT
There are people in this thread who are not reading the game, but are in fact working off of interpretations of what others are saying has happened.
There are people in this thread who are not actually developing opinions and thoughtful stances with regard to the events in thread, and instead are working off of surface-level perceptions.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 8, 2021 20:07:21 GMT
I appreciate the readslist from Scorrch and wish that it had been accompanied by some kind of commentary.
I appreciate OM''s change in vote.
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Post by OM~! on Jun 8, 2021 20:09:28 GMT
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Post by OM~! on Jun 8, 2021 20:11:20 GMT
Too much definite pushback from people not actually doing gamestate analysis for this slot. Bunch of people have noted that it just feels super off, and the scorr / schia posts here def solidify this
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Post by OM~! on Jun 8, 2021 20:12:00 GMT
Fenrir I will be playing minecraft at 6pm tonight if ur not wallposting by then I will make an anti-fenrir sign in your honour
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 8, 2021 20:18:38 GMT
I don’t really see the “mindmelding” helpful when peoples reads are very weak and nothing of that statement to me implies that they’ll reread earlier lines, it’s just to get a townlean on a singular person Took me a few rereads to make sure I was following you correctly but yeah, I think I found the disconnect here. I am not saying that mindmelding is helpful (and if people get too navelgazy about What Mindmelding Is, it'll get the same censor treatment as REDACTED). I am not saying that the mere fact of being on the same wavelength as another person is useful. I am saying that I appreciate Brady's closing bit as a qualifier to the earlier statements, because they open the way to a kind of self-reflection/critical thinking that I think can be villagery. I believe that, absent any substantial follow up, it could go one way or the other. I think that despite your framing, you are not in the wrong to have doubts w/rt aspect of his post. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 8, 2021 20:19:22 GMT
I think too many dogs have eaten too many people's homework this game and this, too, is a welcome vote. |
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Post by OM~! on Jun 8, 2021 20:21:17 GMT
 I would also like micro to come back. I'm very hesistant on that fenrir push Ocean, especially considering you're putting it as a pressure when the guy had 2 votes on him alr and ignored both. I also think ocean / winsy pair is possible |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 8, 2021 20:21:23 GMT
I want to be clear that I said "I appreciate [present tense, indicative] OM's change in vote," not "I would appreciate [present tense, conditional] OM's change in vote."
Both results are fine.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 8, 2021 20:25:46 GMT
Thank you for respecting the feelings stick, OM. I, too, would like micro to come back. I think people in this thread have different senses of scale, which for me at least, is giving a bit of pause in trying to determine what is deliberate misrepresentation of game content as opposed to miscomprehension of game content. I think that movement away from occlusive language/jargon and movement toward open communication will help us to clear up misunderstandings and to better distinguish these things. |
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Post by Sheep★Go★Moo on Jun 8, 2021 20:37:38 GMT
I’m busy atm but i’m not sure how many posts i’ll be able to get in at eod, so i’ll give some quick thoughts. The massive push against brady makes me think even more that brady is town, and I feel like they are some key slots that aren’t being looked at too much atm, like mighty cannon and winsty. I’ll elaborate more on that when I get back later today! This is a massive exaggeration about the brady read, as a matter of fact i’ve been scum leaned by some people on my brady thoughts and people have asked a-lot of questions about my thoughts too. I’m starting to think brady/ptsd is a possbile team. |
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Post by arby on Jun 8, 2021 20:39:26 GMT
hmm to vote Brady or PTSD. I think I prefer PTSD just because Brady provides more opportunities to read him through his posts. PTSD has been pretty bare bones honestly. However, if Brady doesn't address his push, I will gladly change my vote to him.
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Post by Sheep★Go★Moo on Jun 8, 2021 20:39:41 GMT
I don’t really see the “mindmelding” helpful when peoples reads are very weak and nothing of that statement to me implies that they’ll reread earlier lines, it’s just to get a townlean on a singular person Took me a few rereads to make sure I was following you correctly but yeah, I think I found the disconnect here. I am not saying that mindmelding is helpful (and if people get too navelgazy about What Mindmelding Is, it'll get the same censor treatment as REDACTED). I am not saying that the mere fact of being on the same wavelength as another person is useful. I am saying that I appreciate Brady's closing bit as a qualifier to the earlier statements, because they open the way to a kind of self-reflection/critical thinking that I think can be villagery. I believe that, absent any substantial follow up, it could go one way or the other. I think that despite your framing, you are not in the wrong to have doubts w/rt aspect of his post. Ah i see, thank you for clarifying. I do i understand your thoughts on this too, and thats a great account. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 8, 2021 20:41:00 GMT
I want to be clear that I do think sheep has displayed a degree of intellectual honesty in that last thought progression that I would like to call villagery. I would also like to be clear that the "massive push" nitpick that Scorrch had on Pass is a framing that shows up in mightycannon's posting as well, and may also factor into Fenrir's thinking as well but I would like for him to directly speak on this, in addition to the other things he has been asked to comment on. Sometimes it is helpful to make explicit the underlying assumptions we may be working with as we read. I have looked back a bit and I also think that winsy's specific language of "who [should] we plur[shift] onto" is Peculiar. I think it would behoove winsytinsy to talk a bit about who he thinks we should plurshift to, and why there was a need to shift in the first place. I also think that he should elaborate more on why he thinks Ocean is town other than having played together. I feel that specificity is helpful more often than not. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 8, 2021 20:41:28 GMT
Sheep is a cool dude.
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