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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 11, 2021 0:55:20 GMT
also cyan are you considering gary to be scum rn? bc personally i can only see him through the lens of u and him being partners. as someone who is part of that pairing, i wonder how u view it, since i find it really hard to figure out a partner who's not just a lurker/uninvolved with gary due to everyone ganging up on him.
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Post by cyan on Jun 11, 2021 1:19:35 GMT
also cyan are you considering gary to be scum rn? bc personally i can only see him through the lens of u and him being partners. as someone who is part of that pairing, i wonder how u view it, since i find it really hard to figure out a partner who's not just a lurker/uninvolved with gary due to everyone ganging up on him. kinda have been since start of d2? i'm just not voting because it'd place him in L-1 and i don't see a reason not to stretch out discussion more as far as partners go, i'd consider working from NKA and thinking about who might want SSR dead or who wanted to maintain the status quo which, i've labeled a few names already, isn't a lot of people and won't get me towards making a scumteam but it's a start |
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Post by cyan on Jun 11, 2021 1:21:05 GMT
WAIT cyan ur right. i think the gary being indecisive thing is being blown out of proportion cuz he was only really indecisive regarding u, cyan talon, stormfirelucario. but "because sfl was and still is significantly more town than you." why didn't you just say that if that's how you really felt. u only really said u actually tled him instead of flipflopping today he wasn't being indecisive about me. he straight up said he thought i was town and decided never to talk about it for some reason hence the accusations that were being thrown earlier by multiple players: gary isn't scum because he's indecisive, but because he's feigning indecisiveness. |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 11, 2021 1:37:51 GMT
eh with u hard pushing him it's hard to see u and him being partners. the only other things i can think of rn are the lurkers/low interaction people, which while valid feel like pretty easy (and thus lazy?) reads so idk how i feel abt it. and I KNOW bussing exists but most of u guys have been pushing since day 1 and idk why u would bus day 1. im still in class so i havent been giving well thought out posts yet so ill try to process everything in like 3 hours.
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Post by wallape on Jun 11, 2021 2:39:46 GMT
but wallape the reason why i had an issue with u sring gary was i didnt really see him being decisive outside of cyan. tbf he was pretty quiet this game i think but he made his reads pretty clear regarding ddlc and.... i think penguin and that's it. so bgb has opened me to gary/cyan cuz that's the only guy he was indecisive abt so i'm wondering if u think the same thing? My read on Gary was not based on him being indecisive, it was more of him faking indecisiveness/uncertainty. In the post where he defended ddlc, he said ddlc was negtown and that he shouldn't be voted. But the at the end he goes "if ur voting him for smth other than filler, go ahead idgaf, bc im uncertain." Like where you saying im uncertain if u just spent a hot minute defending someone? |
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Post by wallape on Jun 11, 2021 2:42:33 GMT
articunight I need an update on why you tld gary in the first place.
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Post by quojova on Jun 11, 2021 2:46:54 GMT
admittedly it's mostly just the wagon formation on gary that is motivating me towning them which is kinda whack but the penguin+vert votes and the speed of the formation make the wagon highly off to me yo okay Vertigo do you mind posting some of the reads on me from yday cuz I must be blind y'all tunnel vision getting the best of you and mine is too, I'm tempted to shuft back to wape skyfigueroa fwiw the only forum game I've ever been scum in is mononoke I'll probs do a wallpost either today or tomorrow assuming I'm not hammered before then just to get my reads out there for y'all since I presume I'm dead unless some crazy persuasion happens I don't like this post because it's so unsurprised at his current condition and hate that it gives me pause but it is the main thing stopping me from calling the wagon definitely scum-motivated atm although I'm leaning it heavily his early posts are pretty inoffensive to me atm albeit still not impressive I'll inevitably circle back to this in the near future because it's the main point of contention rn but this my mood on gary atm |
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Post by quojova on Jun 11, 2021 2:57:45 GMT
I contemplated this briefly EoD1 but I think I do like fort today higher than the null I gave him yesterday
mostly because the switch to a town ddlc flipping last minute for a perceived anger-motivated reason is something you want to avoid if you don't have conviction in it imo
unfortunately I can't actually remove the possibility of a fort-penguin scumteam (it actually seems reasonably plausible because fort's vote felt like a throwaway + his general attitude towards peng > ddlc) but I'm probably not pursuing a fort hang seriously unless penguin flips scum
if peng ever flips town though I like fort a lot more
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 11, 2021 3:00:18 GMT
but wallape the reason why i had an issue with u sring gary was i didnt really see him being decisive outside of cyan. tbf he was pretty quiet this game i think but he made his reads pretty clear regarding ddlc and.... i think penguin and that's it. so bgb has opened me to gary/cyan cuz that's the only guy he was indecisive abt so i'm wondering if u think the same thing? My read on Gary was not based on him being indecisive, it was more of him faking indecisiveness/uncertainty. In the post where he defended ddlc, he said ddlc was negtown and that he shouldn't be voted. But the at the end he goes "if ur voting him for smth other than filler, go ahead idgaf, bc im uncertain." Like where you saying im uncertain if u just spent a hot minute defending someone? ohh ok. ngl never paid much attention to the last paragraph mostly just the first 2 so i didnt catch that. personally i didn't interpret it that way mostly cuz my read on ddlc was kinda the same. like his shitpostiness meant nothing to me like i said multiple times, but cyan made some compelling points that were def splitting my brain and confused me alot. plus a few lines later he kinda affirmed ddlc on the townier side, not strongly but still a stance. anyway im not gonna stop u anymore cuz ur reasoning seems pretty deep-rooted and sound. and if gary dies yall know who im looking at next. anyway, thoughts on articoo? |
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Post by quojova on Jun 11, 2021 3:01:19 GMT
Voted:Votee
(hammer 7)
Ddlcfan69 (4):Cyan Talon, Wallape,Articuknight,Fortcolors
Gary the Savage (3):Chaostrodon,Vertigo,Ddlcfan69
PenguinD (2):Kliff,Quojova
Wallape (1):Gary the Savage
Vertigo (1):skyfigureroa
Not Voting (2):Saltiestcactus23,PenguinD
if i missed anything/any issues lmk
With that ddlcfan69 has been voted off!
Their role was
Good day user:
Role: Vanilla Townie
Alignment: Town
Abilities: None, except for your vote.
Your associates: Your fellow townsfolk.
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.
It is now night phase: Pm me your action or idles.
Night ends at 9PM GMT-4, or about 23 hours from the writing of this post
It's like very confusing to me why cyan and articu are applying the "status quo" defense to peng but not to gary fwiw I don't buy into that defense at all but it feels selectively applied |
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Post by kliff on Jun 11, 2021 3:04:58 GMT
kliff. his posts are godawful to read and i hate them Is it the grammar? or format? I been trying to attempted double line spacing but doesn't seem like its working |
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Post by quojova on Jun 11, 2021 3:07:07 GMT
I have a light tl on kliff rn but I'd rather not out why because he might continue the behavior
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Post by quojova on Jun 11, 2021 3:07:55 GMT
kliff. his posts are godawful to read and i hate them Is it the grammar? or format? I been trying to attempted double line spacing but doesn't seem like its working and it's not because of this lol even though the coincidental cross-post is funny |
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Post by kliff on Jun 11, 2021 3:13:54 GMT
Vertigo is probably town based on ddlc flip bc i don't see a world where scum!vertigo pushes cyan in that situation since he too knows that it's a weak connection, and that the only reason he would be voted was if ddlc would flip scum as well. That makes me think vertigo legit believes cyan is scum even though his progression seemed fine. That being said I feel fine with my town reads/leans of quo/sky/cyan/vertigo/Llama (in descending order) to vote someone from the remaining out. Also found it weird that nearly everyone on the PL srd peng but he only had 2 votes eod and wasn't even the main cw, even though he had plur at one point I think? I don’t understand why I only had 2 yday as well. FortColors’ last second shift to ddlc is looking mighty suspicious though… vote fortcolors
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 11, 2021 3:20:04 GMT
I don’t understand why I only had 2 yday as well. FortColors’ last second shift to ddlc is looking mighty suspicious though… vote fortcolors
personally i wouldve preferred if he actually tried to expand on it by like questioning fort. also idk why he wouldn't just lynch gary if he found the shift suspicious because i think he showed signs of suspicion towards gary in d1? i think. whereas his reason for lynching fort seems to depend on gary being scum with him. |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 11, 2021 3:21:47 GMT
ok yeah penguin said he would've lynched gary yday if he had the chance. PenguinD why didn't you just lynch him again today lol |
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Post by quojova on Jun 11, 2021 3:22:58 GMT
I don’t understand why I only had 2 yday as well. FortColors’ last second shift to ddlc is looking mighty suspicious though… vote fortcolors
I called that post and another one after that "flat" yesterday because penguin has like no conviction in that read it reads to me like he's supplying it to fill a quota more than anything else |
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Post by quojova on Jun 11, 2021 3:23:30 GMT
ok yeah penguin said he would've lynched gary yday if he had the chance. PenguinD why didn't you just lynch him again today lol he answered this already; he said he didn't want to put gary at L-1 which is fine |
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Post by quojova on Jun 11, 2021 3:24:04 GMT
hold on
is fort + gary actually viable
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Post by quojova on Jun 11, 2021 3:25:45 GMT
I think cyan + gary is not very viable fwiw
I'm so sure that cyan would do at least something to dig out his buddy here
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 11, 2021 3:29:37 GMT
I don’t understand why I only had 2 yday as well. FortColors’ last second shift to ddlc is looking mighty suspicious though… vote fortcolors
I dont know what was going on in his head , but I gave him some townpoints for this because it is a pretty risky move |
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Post by quojova on Jun 11, 2021 3:33:00 GMT
I'm gonna start with
Unvote: SaltiestCactus
there's no point being on this wagon, it's completely nai and i doubt the slot's gonna hit 5 posts today. okay fair colors are pretty. After all, I am Fort and I like Colors :^). I'm glad someone else takes issue with kliff's posts because I couldn't tell if it was just godawful formatting and capitalization or if the posts themselves felt off. But I hate them. With a passion. typing in forums is hard idm shifting from sc23(not 43 :pensive:) to penguin but that might shift the weight from ddlc more than i want. current thoughts: A: Why are you Fos'ing on gary? // i didn't understand it. is it them being uncertain? but that would qualify as a townslip, since certainty is often correlatable to being the minority with info B: I really want to see ddlc defend against cyan's 3 point agenda post C: Switching between peng/sc isn't an issue, i still want to gather reactions since i haven't played with most of you :^ D: I should make a votecount whenever i post since god its confusing to not have that accessibly General reads: tl on cyan and gary rn, gary's may be subject to change if fortcolors has a sizable reason cyan's is primarily since i can understand the logic behind their push slight sl on peng, slightly larger sl on ddlc i suppose though i'm still miffed how the only way of getting attention on other players is wagoning onto penguin :/ i do agree ddlc is trying way too hard to be a town, but as we associate that with being a pr too we might just be poking a pr claim out on day 1 which would suck i will hard sr anyone who tries to jump from ddlc to whichever wagon of note is around rn(i think its just peng? and some 2-vote wagons?) i can't...figure out how to quote multiple people so um bear with me ; In reference to kliff just a couple notes post many of the points don't make sense to me, although i'm glad the penguin tr thing was pointed out(weird as all hell, might be scum spew, might be a random attempt to divert attention) why was cyan getting on ddlc weird, could you explain that while keeping in mind the current state of the game as compared to only the first post? considering that it was very early game there isn't necessarily much logic behind each vote. I'm assuming the teammates think alike thing was in reference to a possible scumteam of cyan+chaostrodon but again, people grasping on to the same point kinda makes that iffy in my opinion. other ramblings: currently my votepool probably has ddlc and penguin albeit i'm not voting either rn, i would also like to see a bit of pressure on quojova/kliff to seal a tl or uncover an sl i am curious on your reads so far and would love an elaboration quojova since i'm having some difficulty in seeing who you're voting rn(or want to vote rn), although the votecount showed a vote from you on chaostrodon. My fos on gary is for 2 reasons. 1) during my read-through he just felt extremely defensive to me. This was a gut feeling, and I quoted a post earlier that was particularly egregious. ("fake town...?") 2) he's been noncommittal about just about everything. The only thing he's been certain of is that ddlc is a memer, and everything else is just waffling about. There's a difference between town uncertainty and scum unwillingness to commit to something. Scum might hesitate to commit to a townlynch because they don't want to be scrutinized after, or they might hesitate to push a scumwagon even after saying "hmmmm x is scummy" because they won't want to lose a partner. To me, the difference is that gary seems to just be uncertain about everythingLook at my signature, I hate lurkers. to that end lynch penguindim expecting my 600 word essay any time now. hmmmm gary + fort doesn't feel too viable although not impossible probably but not something I'd feel too happy pushing for |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 11, 2021 3:34:14 GMT
i feel u quo. literally everyone is pushing gary its hard to pinpoint him to someone with something substantial
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Post by quojova on Jun 11, 2021 3:41:08 GMT
i feel u quo. literally everyone is pushing gary its hard to pinpoint him to someone with something substantial tbh if gary flips scum the exact scumteam fmpov is something like you + gary + articu feels so much more likely that gary is just town although my clearing of a gary+fort team is kinda hasty |
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Post by kliff on Jun 11, 2021 3:44:36 GMT
the only other things i can think of rn are the lurkers/low interaction people, which while valid feel like pretty easy (and thus lazy?) reads so idk how i feel abt it.
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