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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 3:28:25 GMT
if it looks like we hang sky or fort in very large part due to their association with gary we might reach a point where gary claiming pr actually makes us not want to hang them
very hypothetical world but something worth mentioning I think
as always claim pr with caution though
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 17, 2021 3:32:20 GMT
GM
i get why a gary/sky pairing would make sense but i find it kinda silly cuz part of why i tr quo is bc our thought processes seemed to parallel at a number of topics regarding the game. 1 of these topics was gary, and i feel like we had the same opinion on him basically just until this day so i feel like quo out of all the ppl should understand my actions relating to gary
gonna read back on fort cuz im kinda surprised he's being lynched today
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 17, 2021 3:37:11 GMT
gary/fort/sky/articu vert/chaos/articu chaos/sky/articu/kliff this is kinda too many teams to be meaningful but this is what I'm working with rn articu is somehow in all of them but I think the gary/fort/sky team is the team I really want to hit in I have not considered vert teams enough today tbh based on what everyone's said so far i can only see why ppl would guess a me/gary/fort grouping, i do not see how i can be with the other guys. can u explain pls
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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 3:38:18 GMT
wallape I want to know ur thoughts on quo/verti's reads on you Idk what kind of an answer u expect/why this is helpful in solving my slot at all but Quo's tr makes cents to me, minus the newbie to forums part . Verti needs to explain why he trs me before I can come to a conclusion
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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 3:38:57 GMT
sky/arti doesn't make too much sense to me since sky was the person hard pressuring them d2
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 17, 2021 3:39:24 GMT
I think sky is town. why's that
He makes a lot of these posts where he explains his feelings that I think are way too relatable to be forged. I doubt scum!sky would be able to mimic the town perspective so accurately To keep the fight of Gary vs Others going on , as I said before. Keeping a TvT fight in full swing is beneficial to scum and it is not a bad strategy for scum!quojova or scum!Fortcolors to keep switching the lynch to counterwagons so that we can continue to fight over Gary I guess it's at least possible
just doesn't feel super realistic to me that I would go for a wild play to preserve that when the safe option is right in front of me and would probably win me the game 95% of the time
This IS the safe option. If Gary is town and had gotten lynched earlier , we would be looking at other slots. By delaying it thus far , scum would ensure that heat would be on town!Gary until he was lynched and on his pursuers after How tf is he not a super compelling partner from that? This is a very classic mafia move wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Chainsaw_Defense&redirect=no I too doubt the team of articu + gary + vert Simply because I doubt this team survived this long , and articu + vert def did not have the necessary influence to shift people off Gary 3 frickin times. **Vote fortcolors** I think this is the ideal vote for today the point I was making there is that articu's vote on you was very obviously not going to do anything wagon-wise and if he were partnered with gary he would feel a very high amount of pressure to get on the vert wagon and possibly save his partner's life rather than indulge in this vanity wagon.
coincidentally though this is the thing I wanted to remind myself to check when I came back
It did do something wagon wise. You and fort got on me for reasons I dont quite understand Besides , it was pretty early in the day so no there is no very high amount of pressure Alternatively , he might think his partner to be a lost cause and may be trying to distance himself
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 3:40:57 GMT
gary/fort/sky/articu vert/chaos/articu chaos/sky/articu/kliff this is kinda too many teams to be meaningful but this is what I'm working with rn articu is somehow in all of them but I think the gary/fort/sky team is the team I really want to hit in I have not considered vert teams enough today tbh based on what everyone's said so far i can only see why ppl would guess a me/gary/fort grouping, i do not see how i can be with the other guys. can u explain pls with the primary exception of the fort/gary/you scumteam which has yesterday's eod going for it, those teams were pretty much made because there was an absence of anything indicating not partnered for me rather than the existence of something indicating partnership so why do you think you could not be partnered with anyone else
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 3:41:44 GMT
wallape I want to know ur thoughts on quo/verti's reads on you Idk what kind of an answer u expect/why this is helpful in solving my slot at all but Quo's tr makes cents to me, minus the newbie to forums part :(. Verti needs to explain why he trs me before I can come to a conclusion are you not new to forum it's more of a confidence boost factor rather than an actual alignment determiner btw
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 3:42:15 GMT
sky/arti doesn't make too much sense to me since sky was the person hard pressuring them d2 this is very useful actually
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 17, 2021 3:42:50 GMT
gary/fort/sky/articu vert/chaos/articu chaos/sky/articu/kliff this is kinda too many teams to be meaningful but this is what I'm working with rn articu is somehow in all of them but I think the gary/fort/sky team is the team I really want to hit in I have not considered vert teams enough today tbh This might be biased coming from me , but I dont think artico and me are compatible from your POV
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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 3:43:21 GMT
oh I am new to forums, I just don't like being called a noob
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 17, 2021 3:44:33 GMT
Noob
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 17, 2021 3:45:06 GMT
Where is fort? I dont feel too comfortable about lynching him when he is not in here
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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 3:45:15 GMT
chaostrodon u ignored me previous q regarding why u backed backpedaled ur read on me+Gary by saying that there was nothing suggesting or being against that, even though there have been plenty of interactions b/w us and u were pushing the scum team as well
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 3:45:22 GMT
gary/fort/sky/articu vert/chaos/articu chaos/sky/articu/kliff this is kinda too many teams to be meaningful but this is what I'm working with rn articu is somehow in all of them but I think the gary/fort/sky team is the team I really want to hit in I have not considered vert teams enough today tbh This might be biased coming from me , but I dont think artico and me are compatible from your POV no I'd like to see this I slapped together the third team that assumed you were scum pretty hastily
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 3:46:22 GMT
oh I am new to forums, I just don't like being called a noob :P new but not noob :)
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 17, 2021 3:50:03 GMT
based on what everyone's said so far i can only see why ppl would guess a me/gary/fort grouping, i do not see how i can be with the other guys. can u explain pls with the primary exception of the fort/gary/you scumteam which has yesterday's eod going for it, those teams were pretty much made because there was an absence of anything indicating not partnered for me rather than the existence of something indicating partnership so why do you think you could not be partnered with anyone else why i think me and arti aren't compatible should be pretty clear. for kliff and chaos funnily enough i do also have a concrete reason but i want to read back first and strengthen my case if u dont mind
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 3:52:00 GMT
trying to reply to this quote is extremely messed up at this point (the original post disappears) but I'm just going to respond like this in the interest of haste I stand by most of my points but I don't have much to add I don't really see the world in which pulling a wild flip to you and then suddenly deciding to go to cyan can be considered safe; I'm always going to get heavy scrutiny for it the next day if it doesn't work out I'd say the pressure was reasonably high It was really shaping up to be a gary v vert day The point still stands that if articu had reasonable thread awareness he would not expect his chaos vote to do anything, at least with the amount of effort he put into it but again I'm not sure if he actually had such thread awareness
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 17, 2021 3:52:10 GMT
also i still do not like how verti isn't garnering a lot of attention. how has he only made one of ur possible scumteams. if u ask me he's similar to the arti slot where u can plug him in with a lot of ppl
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 17, 2021 3:54:52 GMT
chaostrodon u ignored me previous q regarding why u backed backpedaled ur read on me+Gary by saying that there was nothing suggesting or being against that, even though there have been plenty of interactions b/w us and u were pushing the scum team as well As I replied previously (meaning you ignored my reply ), I just said I havent ruled you out of a team with Gary. I have never pushed you , I just had you in my list of potential team partners. and no , I still completely havent ruled you out As for your interactions , they were all built on top of Gary voting you and you getting mad at him for it , neither of these instances are hard to do as scum and its not hard to build on top of it either That being said , I dont think you are scum with Gary for other reasons , coz if Gary is scum he has a teammate/mates that are pulling him away from the gallows every time. And it obviously aint you and you dont fit in with that team either
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 3:55:53 GMT
also i still do not like how verti isn't garnering a lot of attention. how has he only made one of ur possible scumteams. if u ask me he's similar to the arti slot where u can plug him in with a lot of ppl i mean he doesn't get plugged very easily into any of gary/fort/you which is significantly more than I can say for articu but you are right that he should have more attention
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 4:00:21 GMT
I really do have to more seriously contemplate the odds both sky and fort really did just decide "yea following quo onto cyan here is the right thing to do"
i've kinda taken for granted that it is unlikely
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 17, 2021 4:01:15 GMT
yes not only that he also makes the townlists of some of the ppl here, which is why it frustrates me. if ur sticking with the gary/fort/sky team, i say vote gary first cuz he's a better info lynch.
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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 4:01:59 GMT
chaostrodon u ignored me previous q regarding why u backed backpedaled ur read on me+Gary by saying that there was nothing suggesting or being against that, even though there have been plenty of interactions b/w us and u were pushing the scum team as well As I replied previously (meaning you ignored my reply ), I just said I havent ruled you out of a team with Gary. I have never pushed you , I just had you in my list of potential team partners. and no , I still completely havent ruled you out As for your interactions , they were all built on top of Gary voting you and you getting mad at him for it , neither of these instances are hard to do as scum and its not hard to build on top of it either That being said , I dont think you are scum with Gary for other reasons , coz if Gary is scum he has a teammate/mates that are pulling him away from the gallows every time. And it obviously aint you and you dont fit in with that team either Oh I think I just skipped over that post nvm then :x
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 17, 2021 4:02:44 GMT
trying to reply to this quote is extremely messed up at this point (the original post disappears) but I'm just going to respond like this in the interest of haste I stand by most of my points but I don't have much to add I don't really see the world in which pulling a wild flip to you and then suddenly deciding to go to cyan can be considered safe; I'm always going to get heavy scrutiny for it the next day if it doesn't work out I'd say the pressure was reasonably high It was really shaping up to be a gary v vert day The point still stands that if articu had reasonable thread awareness he would not expect his chaos vote to do anything, at least with the amount of effort he put into it but again I'm not sure if he actually had such thread awareness You would be scrutinized as a partner to Gary and since Gary is town in this scenario , you can just refute the scrutiny by getting him lynched and being like "See , town"
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