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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 4:08:13 GMT
trying to reply to this quote is extremely messed up at this point (the original post disappears) but I'm just going to respond like this in the interest of haste I stand by most of my points but I don't have much to add I don't really see the world in which pulling a wild flip to you and then suddenly deciding to go to cyan can be considered safe; I'm always going to get heavy scrutiny for it the next day if it doesn't work out I'd say the pressure was reasonably high It was really shaping up to be a gary v vert day The point still stands that if articu had reasonable thread awareness he would not expect his chaos vote to do anything, at least with the amount of effort he put into it but again I'm not sure if he actually had such thread awareness You would be scrutinized as a partner to Gary and since Gary is town in this scenario , you can just refute the scrutiny by getting him lynched and being like "See , town" I guess that makes the play plausible I just think it is very unlikely that I would go for such a play in an environment where I would feel very comfortable as scum and I don't even think that super self-metay because I think that is true for almost every player |
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 4:08:38 GMT
You would be scrutinized as a partner to Gary and since Gary is town in this scenario , you can just refute the scrutiny by getting him lynched and being like "See , town" I guess that makes the play plausible I just think it is very unlikely that I would go for such a play in an environment where I would feel very comfortable as scum and I don't even think that super self-metay because I think that is true for almost every player think that is* |
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 17, 2021 4:49:49 GMT
yes not only that he also makes the townlists of some of the ppl here, which is why it frustrates me. if ur sticking with the gary/fort/sky team, i say vote gary first cuz he's a better info lynch. What's with that obsession ? Just because I low posted 2 days in a row. If you want to get me out give some decent reasoning instead of crying. |
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Post by kliff on Jun 17, 2021 6:01:37 GMT
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Post by kliff on Jun 17, 2021 6:13:36 GMT
Did a Quick Skim of Wallape Iso specifically looking for interactions with Gary. wallape Whats your Trio scum team Read that Includes Gary? I don't think you have brought it up much. Are you just Pushing all this time Only just to see a Flip before moving on? |
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Post by kliff on Jun 17, 2021 6:17:20 GMT
yes not only that he also makes the townlists of some of the ppl here, which is why it frustrates me. if ur sticking with the gary/fort/sky team, i say vote gary first cuz he's a better info lynch. What's with that obsession ? Just because I low posted 2 days in a row. If you want to get me out give some decent reasoning instead of crying. |
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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 6:28:10 GMT
Did a Quick Skim of Wallape Iso specifically looking for interactions with Gary. wallape Whats your Trio scum team Read that Includes Gary? I don't think you have brought it up much. Are you just Pushing all this time Only just to see a Flip before moving on?Imma be honest I haven't looked at scum teams so much because I'm not used to solving the game by forming scum teams, u don't get enough time to look inton that on ps maf but if I had to suggest a scumteam it'd probably be gary/ one of {kliff/chaos}, maybe both / maybe fort..? Arti also fits into this but arti/chaos dont seem compatible so kliff/arti or kliff/chaos or fort/arti. I also don't think fort / chaos are scum together bc if scum can pre-planned with the idea of bussing gary d2 then I'd say both scum would hard buss instead of one choosing to defend and one choosing to buss People brought up sky being gary partner as well but im just having a hard time picturing sky as scum here... scum throw out buzzwords and stuff left & right to appeal to ppl but sky's been voicing what they think/feel so... openly. I can't really put it into words well but they just seem townie |
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Post by kliff on Jun 17, 2021 6:40:22 GMT
There seemed to be an Increase of Global hostility towards Chaos within Day 3- now
Vertigo-Chaos Interactions are probably the Least hostile and their Interactions seems distant territory
Though don't think Chaos is the vote here, perhaps the global Hostility might be too unnatural. With a slot like Chaos, I don't see much reason for scum to fake
Interactions with !scumChaos jugging from everyone reads and targets. Will need to recheck though
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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 6:43:18 GMT
Who do u think we should vote today kliff? |
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Post by kliff on Jun 17, 2021 6:45:11 GMT
Did a Quick Skim of Wallape Iso specifically looking for interactions with Gary. wallape Whats your Trio scum team Read that Includes Gary? I don't think you have brought it up much. Are you just Pushing all this time Only just to see a Flip before moving on?Imma be honest I haven't looked at scum teams so much because I'm not used to solving the game by forming scum teams, u don't get enough time to look inton that on ps maf but if I had to suggest a scumteam it'd probably be gary/ one of {kliff/chaos}, maybe both / maybe fort..? Arti also fits into this but arti/chaos dont seem compatible so kliff/arti or kliff/chaos or fort/arti. I also don't think fort / chaos are scum together bc if scum can pre-planned with the idea of bussing gary d2 then I'd say both scum would hard buss instead of one choosing to defend and one choosing to buss People brought up sky being gary partner as well but im just having a hard time picturing sky as scum here... scum throw out buzzwords and stuff left & right to appeal to ppl but sky's been voicing what they think/feel so... openly. I can't really put it into words well but they just seem townie |
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Post by kliff on Jun 17, 2021 6:47:06 GMT
Who do u think we should vote today kliff ?
Unlikely Chaos |
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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 6:54:25 GMT
I feel like voting gary partner here is risky bc gary could just... not be scum and thatd screw us over if he isn't. Flip gary first, vote partner later is my preference here. If gary isn't scum it still gives us info to go off of for lylo, where as if we try to vote a gary partner and mislynch then we go into lylo without info.
I might lynch anywhere in kliff/chaos/fort here if not gary though
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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 7:00:09 GMT
I'll build a post outlining why I individually sr kliff as well once I'm done with my test, so about 5-6 hrs
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 17, 2021 7:27:36 GMT
yes not only that he also makes the townlists of some of the ppl here, which is why it frustrates me. if ur sticking with the gary/fort/sky team, i say vote gary first cuz he's a better info lynch. What's with that obsession ? Just because I low posted 2 days in a row. If you want to get me out give some decent reasoning instead of crying. so am i just supposed to give u a pass? and also everyone else who trs u for doing nothing? i literally see u online all the time yet when it comes to the forums ur coincidentally only free for the 47th hour of the 48 |
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Post by kliff on Jun 17, 2021 7:31:29 GMT
Did a Quick Skim of Wallape Iso specifically looking for interactions with Gary. wallape Whats your Trio scum team Read that Includes Gary? I don't think you have brought it up much. Are you just Pushing all this time Only just to see a Flip before moving on?Imma be honest I haven't looked at scum teams so much because I'm not used to solving the game by forming scum teams, u don't get enough time to look inton that on ps maf but if I had to suggest a scumteam it'd probably be gary/ one of {kliff/chaos}, maybe both / maybe fort..? Arti also fits into this but arti/chaos dont seem compatible so kliff/arti or kliff/chaos or fort/arti. I also don't think fort / chaos are scum together bc if scum can pre-planned with the idea of bussing gary d2 then I'd say both scum would hard buss instead of one choosing to defend and one choosing to buss People brought up sky being gary partner as well but im just having a hard time picturing sky as scum here... scum throw out buzzwords and stuff left & right to appeal to ppl but sky's been voicing what they think/feel so... openly. I can't really put it into words well but they just seem townie
Seems like you basically just want a Gary Flip, Some of the partnerships I would question. Saying Chasos + Gary Is similar to saying Wallape + gary(from chaos perspective??).
I think you found conflict from chaos perspective but you have a similar view.
I feel like voting gary partner here is risky bc gary could just... not be scum and thatd screw us over if he isn't. Flip gary first, vote partner later is my preference here. If gary isn't scum it still gives us info to go off of for lylo, where as if we try to vote a gary partner and mislynch then we go into lylo without info. I might lynch anywhere in kliff/chaos/fort here if not gary though
You say Gary would give the best vote but you don't seam to make/suggest many leads in the time span of the long term Push. For Example, [where would we
look when Gary Flips scum or because of these interaction these "players" are likely partners which makes Gary the best info Vote]. I feel your still being to carelessly
Vague when it comes to other slots.
Correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Post by kliff on Jun 17, 2021 7:37:45 GMT
I'll build a post outlining why I individually sr kliff as well once I'm done with my test, so about 5-6 hrs So I'm Basically Your 2nd Vote. |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 17, 2021 7:42:32 GMT
also im not in the best mood rn i was supposed to get vaccine today but got turned down at the site  so im just gonna make this quick idk if its confirmation bias or close mindedness or whatever but i still feel okay with my trs on quo and townlean on fort. wallape looks a lot townier to me today. i still think gary is town but i don't mind his lynch if it makes everyone else relax at this point which leaves everyone else victim to poe, which is also why i still like the vertigo lynch after all these days. if vertigo is scum i feel like that makes a good case for kliff to be scum as well, judging by how he seemed to tr him around d2 or d3 i forget. chaos is still an enigma to me like when i try to look at his progressions and motivations or whatever they feel townie, but i can never really be sure cuz of former games. i think it'll be easier to read once we get a scum flip. and arti is arti, id probs put them in the same cat as verti but not as scummy, but depending on how gary flips it could easily go the other way around |
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Post by kliff on Jun 17, 2021 7:55:17 GMT
Honestly , at this point I would rather a fortcolors vote than Gary. He might be pushing the counterwagon every time to protect scum!Gary as I am thinking or he might doing it to keep Gary vs Me and the dwindling group of people against Gary fight going on
What are people thoughts on chaos changing their vote to Fort and their reasoning behind it?
Was going to HL the Anti-chaostrodon players but I think That mainly everyone. I want All the Anti-Chaos players to give input.
but I'll Highlight articunight |
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Post by kliff on Jun 17, 2021 8:09:52 GMT
also im not in the best mood rn i was supposed to get vaccine today but got turned down at the site :p so im just gonna make this quick idk if its confirmation bias or close mindedness or whatever but i still feel okay with my trs on quo and townlean on fort. wallape looks a lot townier to me today. i still think gary is town but i don't mind his lynch if it makes everyone else relax at this point which leaves everyone else victim to poe, which is also why i still like the vertigo lynch after all these days. if vertigo is scum i feel like that makes a good case for kliff to be scum as well, judging by how he seemed to tr him around d2 or d3 i forget. chaos is still an enigma to me like when i try to look at his progressions and motivations or whatever they feel townie, but i can never really be sure cuz of former games. i think it'll be easier to read once we get a scum flip. and arti is arti, id probs put them in the same cat as verti but not as scummy, but depending on how gary flips it could easily go the other way around
Kliff v Vertigo Is about to rise up from Kliff
Art v Chaos might Start to rise up from Art
I could see 2 being scum in the separate pair from your perspective. Do you think That the 3rd partner Is might be a player in your town reads? If so Who? |
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Post by kliff on Jun 17, 2021 8:21:02 GMT
Alright wanted to go into Fort + Vertigo and Also, speak on the Gary Flip-advocates today But, ima need to take a break.
So I leave off with
Vote Vertigo
Vote is subject to Change, I do Know The player I want vote should have some scum-potential with Gary.
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 17, 2021 8:26:41 GMT
also im not in the best mood rn i was supposed to get vaccine today but got turned down at the site so im just gonna make this quick idk if its confirmation bias or close mindedness or whatever but i still feel okay with my trs on quo and townlean on fort. wallape looks a lot townier to me today. i still think gary is town but i don't mind his lynch if it makes everyone else relax at this point which leaves everyone else victim to poe, which is also why i still like the vertigo lynch after all these days. if vertigo is scum i feel like that makes a good case for kliff to be scum as well, judging by how he seemed to tr him around d2 or d3 i forget. chaos is still an enigma to me like when i try to look at his progressions and motivations or whatever they feel townie, but i can never really be sure cuz of former games. i think it'll be easier to read once we get a scum flip. and arti is arti, id probs put them in the same cat as verti but not as scummy, but depending on how gary flips it could easily go the other way around
Kliff v Vertigo Is about to rise up from Kliff
Art v Chaos might Start to rise up from Art
I could see 2 being scum in the separate pair from your perspective. Do you think That the 3rd partner Is might be a player in your town reads? If so Who? well logically speaking fort is the weakest tr so probably him, but idt the 2 x vs y's u brought up necessarily means only 2 of them can be together. although if im being honest i've been handling my scumreads thru the lenses of potential scum partners instead of trios so im not sure who i would put in a group of 3 yet. ill give it a shot rn tho |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 17, 2021 10:14:45 GMT
wallape I want to know ur thoughts on quo/verti's reads on you Idk what kind of an answer u expect/why this is helpful in solving my slot at all but Quo's tr makes cents to me, minus the newbie to forums part  . Verti needs to explain why he trs me before I can come to a conclusion "makes cents" Quo is paying wape confirmed |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 17, 2021 10:21:40 GMT
quojova why is sky scum for reasons that don't involve me. People are looking at partners again like I'm conf scum
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 17, 2021 10:22:58 GMT
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 17, 2021 10:26:04 GMT
Can y'all also look at chaos without regarding me? I feel like my reads just vanish now or don't matter. It's like Gary is on chaos, gary must be scum so chaos is town. Though I did like the post about why sky could gain from voting me today
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so im just gonna make this quick
. Verti needs to explain why he trs me before I can come to a conclusion