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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 16:03:36 GMT
yes not only that he also makes the townlists of some of the ppl here, which is why it frustrates me. if ur sticking with the gary/fort/sky team, i say vote gary first cuz he's a better info lynch. i just want to say this post is seriously sus why do you think it is sus? Are u suggesting Fort/Sky/ is the scumteam and Gary isn't the third partner?
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 16:04:45 GMT
im gonna reread with an emphasis on vert+chaos+articu now
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 16:06:51 GMT
i just want to say this post is seriously sus why do you think it is sus? Are u suggesting Fort/Sky/??? is the scumteam and Gary isn't the third partner? pushing for "info hangs" does not win you the game especially if you think the player is just town
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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 16:10:27 GMT
why do you think it is sus? Are u suggesting Fort/Sky/??? is the scumteam and Gary isn't the third partner? pushing for "info hangs" does not win you the game especially if you think the player is just town I thought it was more of "I don't rly want to vote gary/fort, but if we do decide to vote then we should probably vote gary"
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 16:13:31 GMT
This might be biased coming from me , but I dont think artico and me are compatible from your POV no I'd like to see this I slapped together the third team that assumed you were scum pretty hastily wait actually I'll hold off on that I need to see why you think this because it might change a lot for me
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 17, 2021 16:17:16 GMT
pushing for "info hangs" does not win you the game especially if you think the player is just town I thought it was more of "I don't rly want to vote gary/fort, but if we do decide to vote then we should probably vote gary" lol right, literally all 3 people i named there r on my townlist
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 17, 2021 16:37:01 GMT
When did quo vote sky? Wasnt he on fort
That action has reduced my opinion of him much. He should be knowing he doesnt have any chance of getting sky lynched.
It looks like he is comfortable letting people lynch vertigo over his actual scumreads.
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 16:46:05 GMT
When did quo vote sky? Wasnt he on fort That action has reduced my opinion of him much. He should be knowing he doesnt have any chance of getting sky lynched. It looks like he is comfortable letting people lynch vertigo over his actual scumreads. towards the bottom of page 46 I think the sky vote is reasonably compelling IF gary is always partnered with sky when he is scum, sky is in other possible scumteams, and fort-gary feels not certain then from those premises sky is the clear vote I'm less certain about those premises now though which is why I've shifted to gary
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 16:47:21 GMT
im getting sleepy and seeing how it's prolly gonna be deadline by the time i wake up im just gonna post this half finished thoughts post and try to continue it when i get motivation again take note this is only thru judging interactions until page 30 so far. also this is super unrefined bc i've been working on it for a bit and cba to finish/double check it rn. feel free to ask questions canceled out partnerships: View Attachmentdid not include wallape or quo bc i am p sure they are town at this point chaos/gary - chaos lynched gary since d1, quotearti/gary? - one of the first to add additional pressure due to a reasoning that seems like a genuine root of suspicion(even if light) ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/76334, started to tl gary later in the day tho and it was kinda unexplained chaos/fort - early d1 interactions seem like a genuine exchange of ideas quote. there's also a bit of light pushing and questioning between them across the days fort/gary - quote quote, although fort shifting to ddlc does knock this down a few points kliff/gary - kliff's read on gary starts with "hmm i dont really like how gary always says uncertain" to making a full wallpost about a cyan penguin gary team. sounds very natural kliff/chaos - quote, feels like genuine discusion arti/chaos - quote, arti is a person of few words yet they use these few words to throw a bit of suspicion on chaos even if there were a couple people tring chaos some weird stuff: - quote this post is kinda dumb looking back at it - quote red flag? considering he places verti in a tr later idk if imma continue this but ya here u go realized I was going to but then forgot to read this will do that now
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 16:54:33 GMT
I am again considering rn if gary-fort is plausible
and if there could be a third in gary's scumteam if not
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 16:55:16 GMT
where did sky sus out articu
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Post by articunight on Jun 17, 2021 16:57:22 GMT
hihi first off- weirdest thing here to me is Gary The Savage voting for... chaostrodon ?? i isoed them for a few pages and really can't tell if there's any reasoning which is very annoying and sounds out more like survivalism than anything else, there's no attempt at further pressure from gary and this is just...it? gary scum would cause me to assume cyan town since there's a vague pocket/buddying going around there("i have to count on you to save me quojova my primary concern with the chaos slot was: it felt like there was no motivation to actually further the vote, worse than a vanity it felt like a half-assed attempt by scum to be on a wagon for very few reasons. But its also interesting to me how chaos dipped from the gary wagon today after a number of days i'd try to quote posts but i think the easier thing to do is link them so ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78078/thread and ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78081/thread(chaos is linked too so pls respond to my ramblings too) i'm less convinced on gary being a townslot now(especially due to today's vote, i don't understand a townie pov behind it) but that does make me more open to a scumteam of gary+chaos quo pointing out 3 scumteams, all of them containing me yet still not sring me any harder was weird to me as well i'm wondering if they could update with this: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78677i'm assuming the current votecount is correct at this?: Fortcolors(1):Chaostrodon Vertigo(2)*:Kliff,Skyfigureroa Chaostrodon(1):Gary the savage gary the savage(2):quojova,wallape
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 17, 2021 17:01:51 GMT
first off cyan is dead so.... Second, it really shouldn't be a surprise I'm on chaos. I'll repost reasons in a bit when I'm home
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 17:03:29 GMT
hihi first off- weirdest thing here to me is Gary The Savage voting for... chaostrodon ?? i isoed them for a few pages and really can't tell if there's any reasoning which is very annoying and sounds out more like survivalism than anything else, there's no attempt at further pressure from gary and this is just...it? gary scum would cause me to assume cyan town since there's a vague pocket/buddying going around there("i have to count on you to save me quojova my primary concern with the chaos slot was: it felt like there was no motivation to actually further the vote, worse than a vanity it felt like a half-assed attempt by scum to be on a wagon for very few reasons. But its also interesting to me how chaos dipped from the gary wagon today after a number of days i'd try to quote posts but i think the easier thing to do is link them so ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78078/thread and ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78081/thread(chaos is linked too so pls respond to my ramblings too) i'm less convinced on gary being a townslot now(especially due to today's vote, i don't understand a townie pov behind it) but that does make me more open to a scumteam of gary+chaos quo pointing out 3 scumteams, all of them containing me yet still not sring me any harder was weird to me as well i'm wondering if they could update with this: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78677i'm assuming the current votecount is correct at this?: Fortcolors(1):Chaostrodon Vertigo(2)*:Kliff,Skyfigureroa Chaostrodon(1):Gary the savage gary the savage(2):quojova,wallape I too would assume cyan town if gary flipped scum lol gary+chaos is an interesting idea but it's a pretty bold move to make as chaos I did sr you harder after I made all three teams that contained you but not enough to push me away from the exact fort/gary/sky idea but apparently since then sky and chaos have both mentioned that they think their partner equity with aritcu is low which I'm waiting for responses on
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 17, 2021 17:04:43 GMT
When did quo vote sky? Wasnt he on fort That action has reduced my opinion of him much. He should be knowing he doesnt have any chance of getting sky lynched. It looks like he is comfortable letting people lynch vertigo over his actual scumreads. towards the bottom of page 46 I think the sky vote is reasonably compelling IF gary is always partnered with sky when he is scum, sky is in other possible scumteams, and fort-gary feels not certain then from those premises sky is the clear voteI'm less certain about those premises now though which is why I've shifted to gary Surely , Im not the only one that cant make head or tail of that sentence
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 17:05:50 GMT
hihi first off- weirdest thing here to me is Gary The Savage voting for... chaostrodon ?? i isoed them for a few pages and really can't tell if there's any reasoning which is very annoying and sounds out more like survivalism than anything else, there's no attempt at further pressure from gary and this is just...it? gary scum would cause me to assume cyan town since there's a vague pocket/buddying going around there("i have to count on you to save me quojova my primary concern with the chaos slot was: it felt like there was no motivation to actually further the vote, worse than a vanity it felt like a half-assed attempt by scum to be on a wagon for very few reasons. But its also interesting to me how chaos dipped from the gary wagon today after a number of days i'd try to quote posts but i think the easier thing to do is link them so ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78078/thread and ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78081/thread(chaos is linked too so pls respond to my ramblings too) i'm less convinced on gary being a townslot now(especially due to today's vote, i don't understand a townie pov behind it) but that does make me more open to a scumteam of gary+chaos quo pointing out 3 scumteams, all of them containing me yet still not sring me any harder was weird to me as well i'm wondering if they could update with this: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78677i'm assuming the current votecount is correct at this?: Fortcolors(1):Chaostrodon Vertigo(2)*:Kliff,Skyfigureroa Chaostrodon(1):Gary the savage gary the savage(2):quojova,wallape this post is good though make more stuff like this pls minus the cyan part
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 17, 2021 17:06:14 GMT
hihi first off- weirdest thing here to me is Gary The Savage voting for... chaostrodon ?? i isoed them for a few pages and really can't tell if there's any reasoning which is very annoying and sounds out more like survivalism than anything else, there's no attempt at further pressure from gary and this is just...it? gary scum would cause me to assume cyan town since there's a vague pocket/buddying going around there("i have to count on you to save me quojova my primary concern with the chaos slot was: it felt like there was no motivation to actually further the vote, worse than a vanity it felt like a half-assed attempt by scum to be on a wagon for very few reasons. But its also interesting to me how chaos dipped from the gary wagon today after a number of days i'd try to quote posts but i think the easier thing to do is link them so ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78078/thread and ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78081/thread(chaos is linked too so pls respond to my ramblings too) i'm less convinced on gary being a townslot now(especially due to today's vote, i don't understand a townie pov behind it) but that does make me more open to a scumteam of gary+chaos quo pointing out 3 scumteams, all of them containing me yet still not sring me any harder was weird to me as well i'm wondering if they could update with this: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78677i'm assuming the current votecount is correct at this?: Fortcolors(1):Chaostrodon Vertigo(2)*:Kliff,Skyfigureroa Chaostrodon(1):Gary the savage gary the savage(2):quojova,wallape I too would assume cyan town if gary flipped scum lol gary+chaos is an interesting idea but it's a pretty bold move to make as chaos I did sr you harder after I made all three teams that contained you but not enough to push me away from the exact fort/gary/sky idea but apparently since then sky and chaos have both mentioned that they think their partner equity with aritcu is low which I'm waiting for responses on Honestly , I shouldnt have to explain this Do you really think scum!artico will go on me like he did yesterday?
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 17:07:27 GMT
towards the bottom of page 46 I think the sky vote is reasonably compelling IF gary is always partnered with sky when he is scum, sky is in other possible scumteams, and fort-gary feels not certain then from those premises sky is the clear voteI'm less certain about those premises now though which is why I've shifted to gary Surely , Im not the only one that cant make head or tail of that sentence ok ok I'll rewrite it IF these premises are true: -a vote in gary/sky/fort is desired -gary is always partnered with sky when he is scum -sky is in other possible scumteams -if gary is scum fort might not be scum THEN: sky is the clear vote
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 17:07:58 GMT
I too would assume cyan town if gary flipped scum lol gary+chaos is an interesting idea but it's a pretty bold move to make as chaos I did sr you harder after I made all three teams that contained you but not enough to push me away from the exact fort/gary/sky idea but apparently since then sky and chaos have both mentioned that they think their partner equity with aritcu is low which I'm waiting for responses on Honestly , I shouldnt have to explain this Do you really think scum!artico will go on me like he did yesterday? I just didn't remember the event which is why I'm asking you
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Post by quojova on Jun 17, 2021 17:11:17 GMT
if articu is actually not partnered with either sky or chaos though he is pretty town
but I need to check if those things can be distancing
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Post by articunight on Jun 17, 2021 17:14:25 GMT
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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 17:15:31 GMT
hihi first off- weirdest thing here to me is Gary The Savage voting for... chaostrodon ?? i isoed them for a few pages and really can't tell if there's any reasoning which is very annoying and sounds out more like survivalism than anything else, there's no attempt at further pressure from gary and this is just...it? gary scum would cause me to assume cyan town since there's a vague pocket/buddying going around there("i have to count on you to save me quojova my primary concern with the chaos slot was: it felt like there was no motivation to actually further the vote, worse than a vanity it felt like a half-assed attempt by scum to be on a wagon for very few reasons. But its also interesting to me how chaos dipped from the gary wagon today after a number of days i'd try to quote posts but i think the easier thing to do is link them so ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78078/thread and ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78081/thread(chaos is linked too so pls respond to my ramblings too) i'm less convinced on gary being a townslot now(especially due to today's vote, i don't understand a townie pov behind it) but that does make me more open to a scumteam of gary+chaos quo pointing out 3 scumteams, all of them containing me yet still not sring me any harder was weird to me as well i'm wondering if they could update with this: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/78677i'm assuming the current votecount is correct at this?: Fortcolors(1):Chaostrodon Vertigo(2)*:Kliff,Skyfigureroa Chaostrodon(1):Gary the savage gary the savage(2):quojova,wallape I too would assume cyan town if gary flipped scum lol gary+chaos is an interesting idea but it's a pretty bold move to make as chaos I did sr you harder after I made all three teams that contained you but not enough to push me away from the exact fort/gary/sky idea but apparently since then sky and chaos have both mentioned that they think their partner equity with aritcu is low which I'm waiting for responses on Eye think gary + chaos is a very viable idea, I was writing up a post regarding this earlier but it relied heavily on wifom but since someone brought it up I may as well. Look at it from a scum!Chaos perspective: A) votes gary B) doesn't pressure much d1(important to note), doesn't push too hard, throws a few reads here and there on tone C) vote builds up on gary. Chaos feels pressured to stay on bc if he shifts and then gary flips later on he is p much outed D) would look weird to just completely forget gary wagon, so has to stay on and push it... repeat I think kliff brought this up earlier but for someone pushing someone else, they have a surprising lack of interactions
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 17, 2021 17:17:23 GMT
quo i dont get how u out of all ppl r sus of me and gary when im p sure the argument u can make for a gary/sky pairing will also apply to gary/quo. the primary reason why i tred u wasnt cuz of ur analysis like every1 else because ik ur capable of all the analysis everytime i spec ur games. i tred u because we had similar thought procceses in response to certain events in the game, one of the most prominent being gary's alignment. the fact that u r fixated this much on me after not placing any sus on me prior only makes the tr stronger cuz scum quo has no reason to do something so out of left field but it is definitely frustrating lol
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Post by articunight on Jun 17, 2021 17:19:53 GMT
I too would assume cyan town if gary flipped scum lol gary+chaos is an interesting idea but it's a pretty bold move to make as chaos I did sr you harder after I made all three teams that contained you but not enough to push me away from the exact fort/gary/sky idea but apparently since then sky and chaos have both mentioned that they think their partner equity with aritcu is low which I'm waiting for responses on Eye think gary + chaos is a very viable idea, I was writing up a post regarding this earlier but it relied heavily on wifom but since someone brought it up I may as well. Look at it from a scum!Chaos perspective: A) votes gary B) doesn't pressure much d1(important to note), doesn't push too hard, throws a few reads here and there on tone C) vote builds up on gary. Chaos feels pressured to stay on bc if he shifts and then gary flips later on he is p much outed D) would look weird to just completely forget gary wagon, so has to stay on and push it... repeat I think kliff brought this up earlier but for someone pushing someone else, they have a surprising lack of interactions are you suggesting a third scum along with this? and why wouldn't you bring this up on day 3 when i first tried to poke chaos about it?
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Post by wallape on Jun 17, 2021 17:24:11 GMT
For me it's less of a case and more of a "chaos should not be ruled out of gary partnership". I think vertigo/fort might fit into that world off the top of my head im just lazy to iso rn cuz I'm on my tablet rn xd. Its heavily wifom based and u can fit anything with wifom though, I just think the fact that chaos barely pushed gary up until mid d2 despite voting for him upto them is weird, which is the only reason why I even brought it up now.
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