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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 19, 2021 4:08:29 GMT
I bet spec chat is barren af , so you dont have to worry about your terrible showmanship
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 19, 2021 4:08:56 GMT
Btw , sky do you got reads yet |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 19, 2021 4:10:32 GMT
anyway im on a roadtrip so ill rest my eyes for a bit. if i can hop on laptop ill try to choose between chaos and kliff again. quo pls just consider scum teams that do not include me while im gone. thankss Wait whatt? You know what you can fucking die to Quo's tunnel. Your terrible reads might as well cost as the game |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 4:11:11 GMT
I bet spec chat is barren af , so you dont have to worry about your terrible showmanship I've been pretty surprised at how much the circuit ones fill up but it is quite late in a lot of timezones |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 4:12:18 GMT
anyway im on a roadtrip so ill rest my eyes for a bit. if i can hop on laptop ill try to choose between chaos and kliff again. quo pls just consider scum teams that do not include me while im gone. thankss Wait whatt? You know what you can fucking die to Quo's tunnel. Your terrible reads might as well cost as the game why are you so certain that he cannot replicate his town voice as scum I still have no idea |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 19, 2021 4:13:56 GMT
gary wagon stays alive obviously. overnight when i thought about kliff/chaos i was leaning kliff scum more. i still do today but not as much. i need to read forts iso again but cant rn
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 19, 2021 4:15:24 GMT
anyway im on a roadtrip so ill rest my eyes for a bit. if i can hop on laptop ill try to choose between chaos and kliff again. quo pls just consider scum teams that do not include me while im gone. thankss Wait whatt? You know what you can fucking die to Quo's tunnel. Your terrible reads might as well cost as the game is this bc i said kliff/gary |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 19, 2021 4:15:49 GMT
@fortcolors the wallape vote and me saying votemeta is dumb are not correlated. Saying "they voted third, they're scum" is, as its really just rvs but you're trying to make an unnecessary explanation for the vote. FOS of fort, not necessarily for comments made reasonably, butter after other people began to sl me y-day he sorta just sheeped their reads and placed an fos on me, with no prior reads on me having been made by him Fort: Has to like every post in the world. Also hasn't actually gone into much depth besides me and penguin with a little bit of kliff if you look into the iso. For whatever reason they shifted from a sl on me yesterday to a tl on me today, and have provided reasons, but I'm not sure they're justification enough. Also is openly pointing out that Penguin isn't on me, and I feel could potentially be bussing Penguin for the towncred, in the hopes Peng plur secures on me by end of day, and if Peng dies tomorrow they get the cred for that. SL This is genuine, sharp criticism of fort. none of this "i vaguely sr my partner" type stuff you see scumteams do all the time; gary simultaneously thinks he has a good point here but he also isn't afraid of the consequences that fort might be hit with. Shift Vote to Fortin case someone else wants to last second shift This is slightly tinfoily but it literally feels like gary is just trying to get his partner sky to shift to save him but he isn't actually around to do it this post screams defensive obsession with self-image to me I'm gonna start with
Unvote: SaltiestCactus
there's no point being on this wagon, it's completely nai and i doubt the slot's gonna hit 5 posts today. okay fair colors are pretty. After all, I am Fort and I like Colors :^). I'm glad someone else takes issue with kliff's posts because I couldn't tell if it was just godawful formatting and capitalization or if the posts themselves felt off. But I hate them. With a passion. My fos on gary is for 2 reasons. 1) during my read-through he just felt extremely defensive to me. This was a gut feeling, and I quoted a post earlier that was particularly egregious. ("fake town...?") 2) he's been noncommittal about just about everything. The only thing he's been certain of is that ddlc is a memer, and everything else is just waffling about. There's a difference between town uncertainty and scum unwillingness to commit to something. Scum might hesitate to commit to a townlynch because they don't want to be scrutinized after, or they might hesitate to push a scumwagon even after saying "hmmmm x is scummy" because they won't want to lose a partner. To me, the difference is that gary seems to just be uncertain about everythingLook at my signature, I hate lurkers. to that end lynch penguindim expecting my 600 word essay any time now. I think there are more fort posts that made me question a fort-gary scumteam that I remember I posted in the past but I think I skipped them accidentally in the iso. will probably go back to see if I'm not mentally fabricating those posts at some point How can it be "gEnUiNe sHarP" when Gary was fucking scum. I mean , do you have a seperate definition for genuine? What consequences? Like people thinking he and Fort are not in a team? Yeah , I am sure Gary would def not want us to think that at all (sarcasm) I hope you are not thinking Gary was actually trying to get Fort lynched through that. Bc Fort was in a pretty comfortable position at that time , he could take a teammate mentioning him as a SL in a wallpost. Keep in mind that Gary never pushed Fort or voted him until EOD yesterday |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 19, 2021 4:16:09 GMT
kliff/chaos*
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 19, 2021 4:19:16 GMT
Wait whatt? You know what you can fucking die to Quo's tunnel. Your terrible reads might as well cost as the game is this bc i said kliff/gary No b*** , its coz you said me
Chaos is me
Ive been trying to get Gary lynched since d1 , but couldnt coz you dum dums kept switching the wagon to random lurkers.
And now you have the audacity to keep me as top suspect |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 4:21:59 GMT
This is genuine, sharp criticism of fort. none of this "i vaguely sr my partner" type stuff you see scumteams do all the time; gary simultaneously thinks he has a good point here but he also isn't afraid of the consequences that fort might be hit with. This is slightly tinfoily but it literally feels like gary is just trying to get his partner sky to shift to save him but he isn't actually around to do it I think there are more fort posts that made me question a fort-gary scumteam that I remember I posted in the past but I think I skipped them accidentally in the iso. will probably go back to see if I'm not mentally fabricating those posts at some point How can it be "gEnUiNe sHarP" when Gary was fucking scum. I mean , do you have a seperate definition for genuine? What consequences? Like people thinking he and Fort are not in a team? Yeah , I am sure Gary would def not want us to think that at all (sarcasm) I hope you are not thinking Gary was actually trying to get Fort lynched through that. Bc Fort was in a pretty comfortable position at that time , he could take a teammate mentioning him as a SL in a wallpost. Keep in mind that Gary never pushed Fort or voted him until EOD yesterday genuine as in he thinks the read is genuinely solid and has the possibility to do things this sounds like a semantic difference fort was comfortable but it was fairly early d1 at that point rapid shifts in reads are common keep in mind that I obviously think there is a lot of plausible material that can point to a fort-gary team because that along with gary-sky was essentially the basis of my gary sr but there are pieces of evidence that cause reasonable doubt about that where I don't see the same with sky essentially why I stand where I do rn |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 19, 2021 4:25:24 GMT
is this bc i said kliff/gary No b*** , its coz you said me
Chaos is me
Ive been trying to get Gary lynched since d1 , but couldnt coz you dum dums kept switching the wagon to random lurkers.
And now you have the audacity to keep me as top suspectyea i've seen that n i've already said how i found that townie even beforw gary flipped. there's just something still keeping me a bit wary |
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Post by wallape on Jun 19, 2021 4:25:30 GMT
anyway im on a roadtrip so ill rest my eyes for a bit. if i can hop on laptop ill try to choose between chaos and kliff again. quo pls just consider scum teams that do not include me while im gone. thankss Wait whatt? You know what you can fucking die to Quo's tunnel. Your terrible reads might as well cost as the game Red flag :I, instead of instead of trying to understand what sky's case is and countering that, ur just saying the reads are trash is this bc i said kliff/gary No b*** , its coz you said me
Chaos is me
Ive been trying to get Gary lynched since d1 , but couldnt coz you dum dums kept switching the wagon to random lurkers.
And now you have the audacity to keep me as top suspectBussing exists(no matter how unlikely). Why did u,read gary as scum d1? |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 19, 2021 4:26:38 GMT
Seems to me you are mistaking Gary's distancing attempts with fort and lack of distancing attempts with sky as genuine evidence
and No , your quotes are from d2 and not d1
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 4:28:03 GMT
chaos do you have past games from other sites you can share
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 19, 2021 4:34:16 GMT
Wait whatt? You know what you can fucking die to Quo's tunnel. Your terrible reads might as well cost as the game Red flag :I, instead of instead of trying to understand what sky's case is and countering that, ur just saying the reads are trash No b*** , its coz you said me
Chaos is me
Ive been trying to get Gary lynched since d1 , but couldnt coz you dum dums kept switching the wagon to random lurkers.
And now you have the audacity to keep me as top suspectBussing exists(no matter how unlikely). Why did u,read gary as scum d1? Bc they are trash. Im frustrated coz if not for these two , we would have gotten Gary out d1 and be in a much better position now and I dont think either of these are scum. Now they are going at each other and both think Im the top suspect for whatever reason. Bc he was hedgy as hell about Cyan and put out a half assed defence on ddlc , how do you not know that? |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 4:37:58 GMT
Seems to me you are mistaking Gary's distancing attempts with fort and lack of distancing attempts with sky as genuine evidence and No , your quotes are from d2 and not d1 hm you are right only one of them is from d1 and it's a less substantial one I have some gut idea that gary does not choose to put out a well-reasoned argument against his partner if he does not have to I think I'll see if I can explain it more in-depth later in the phase |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 4:40:59 GMT
atp I don't have a clear 2nd scummiest player after sky
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 4:42:05 GMT
atp I don't have a clear 2nd scummiest player after sky actually it is probably chaos but that is wildly subject to change based on how I reread this tomorrow morning |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 4:47:34 GMT
Wait whatt? You know what you can fucking die to Quo's tunnel. Your terrible reads might as well cost as the game why are you so certain that he cannot replicate his town voice as scum I still have no idea I'm still wondering about this it seems super out of character for you to pursue a read based on almost entirely mood and idk how you are expecting to convince me with it that's kinda unfair because I'm judging that off of your play from a limited subset of games (although that has held very strong for the few games I have seen you) which is why I'm trying to expand the pool of your games I have seen |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 4:49:15 GMT
im still never hanging chaos here btw
I think when they are scum it is almost always with sky
although that conclusion might be a bit hasty
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 19, 2021 4:56:27 GMT
Bc putting yourself in a town!you position as scum and then describing your feelings so precisely is harder than it looks. I am pretty new to forums but Ive never seen anyone being able to pull this off.
Secondly if you want me to disregard feel based reads , I would rather vote you over sky since he was sheeping you anyway
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 5:10:14 GMT
It is tough and I'm not expecting it to be incredibly precise but all I really know from your post is that you think his posts are "genuine and town" which is not really going to convince anyone who didn't already agree with you and I think a bit more effort is warranted
I'm not trying to get you to disregard feel based reads but I'm calling it exactly as I see it: I have never seen you bank on a tone read nearly as hard as you are now I cannot really justify why sky in this exact position is the sole exception to that
I do not really get where the last phrase is coming from
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 5:10:27 GMT
goodnight
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Post by articunight on Jun 19, 2021 5:13:11 GMT
i know tonereads would normally be immediately discarded, but i would like to bring attention to the comparison in chaos pushing someone while they were attempting to vote out gary, and current day enthusiasm for sring sky/fort. I haven't properly looked over the day yet but this is quite a striking difference that i felt would normally be noticed more  |
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