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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 22, 2021 12:00:11 GMT
so hi hi i think i've solved the game Claiming DocFonts are annoying, my actions were N1: fort, N2: quo, N3: sky, N4: quo
compare that to sky's stuff
we can see that scum has to have attempted a kill on a doc target on n4 and n2 following kliffs flip(the scumkill is confirmed to be compulsive), clearing quo leaving us with a scumpool of fortcolors, chaostrodon and wallape.
Quojova is immediately townconfirmed from me as might be obvious, hopefully i am as well, considering all things. Assuming all things i'm fairly confident chaos+fort shouldn't be a scumteam, which implies that every scumteam involves wallape, i'd love opinions from everyone else so i'll just drop highlights quojova chaostrodon Fort Colorcastle
sky pointing out their N1 action might've helped out tbh if they were on an alive nonquo/non me player  How is quo immediately townconfirmed , I dont get it |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 22, 2021 12:03:58 GMT
so hi hi i think i've solved the game Claiming DocFonts are annoying, my actions were N1: fort, N2: quo, N3: sky, N4: quo
compare that to sky's stuff
we can see that scum has to have attempted a kill on a doc target on n4 and n2 following kliffs flip(the scumkill is confirmed to be compulsive), clearing quo leaving us with a scumpool of fortcolors, chaostrodon and wallape.
Quojova is immediately townconfirmed from me as might be obvious, hopefully i am as well, considering all things. Assuming all things i'm fairly confident chaos+fort shouldn't be a scumteam, which implies that every scumteam involves wallape, i'd love opinions from everyone else so i'll just drop highlights quojova chaostrodon Fort Colorcastle
sky pointing out their N1 action might've helped out tbh if they were on an alive nonquo/non me player How is quo immediately townconfirmed , I dont get it I mean , why not the JK target? |
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2021 12:14:29 GMT
How is quo immediately townconfirmed , I dont get it I mean , why not the JK target? hmm, i assumed since that implies kliff was targetted twice on alternating nights but thats a bad argument since i targetted quo for docs on the same alternating nights. Although i guess the kliff kill does imply that there was motivation to kill kliff? |
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2021 12:15:06 GMT
but that also implies that scum was pretty hellbent on killing kliff especially on night 2 and 4 which should give us more room to analyze
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Post by wallape on Jun 22, 2021 12:16:39 GMT
Wasn't there an nk on n4
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2021 12:18:03 GMT
urgh ebwop, i meant Night 3 not 4, and that it gives us room to analyse a potential chaos scum, since you were jked that night as well
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Post by wallape on Jun 22, 2021 12:21:04 GMT
If chaos was scum whod be partner though? Quo/Fort r possible from my pov. Chaos' frustration with quo doesn't seem like a svs interaction to me. HIGHLY unlikely at best.
Chaos pushed fort yesterday. Don't think scum busses in such a bad situation
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Post by wallape on Jun 22, 2021 12:22:33 GMT
also like, there r way too many possibilities to analyze night actions here, i don't think we get any info from them.
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2021 13:15:48 GMT
mrghhh i'm just confused now, chaos is beginning to look less and less scummy rn but POE then provides quo, fort and wape. even a single elimination from this scumpool outs scumteam, but the issue lies in how often all 3 of these players voted together, often on wagons that weren't gary(albeit wape was on gary on one of the
on EOD2 the wagon was: PenguinD(5)*:Quojova,Fortcolors,Gary The Savage,Wallape,Articunight
on EOD3 the wagon was: Gary the savage(3):Chaostrodon,Wallape,Cyan Talon
Cyan talon (6):Kliff,Quojova,Fortcolors,Skyfigureroa,Gary The Savage,Vertigo
on EOD4: Gary the Savage(3)*:Quojova,Wallape,Articunight
Fortcolors(2):Chaostrodon,Kliff
i'm fairly reinforced regarding chaos+fort never being a scumteam, if i assume my doc struck true then i get the read that quo is also a tl, leaving us with the fort+wape potential scumteam. If i assume not then that implies scum had reason to remove kliff at EOD2 and we need to figure out if there's valid reasoning for that. Possible reasoning: kliff sred gary but i wonder if the simplest reasoning is the correct one here
There's a certain amount of WIFOM in this, but i'd like to consider scum being nervous after 2 days of no kills(especially with a partner being a daily cw) and would want to dodge prs on N4, but from what i was guessing i assumed wape would be the first to be shot in that scenario, since verti at the point was a very voteable target for town
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Assuming chaos to not be my POE tr, i already sort of explained but assuming quo to be town automatically brings me to vote out wallape in a wape+fort scumteam
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there is the alternative of a: quo+fort or b: quo+chaos but idt chaos/quo fit in the latter
quo+fort does feel understandable, both of them have shared the same wagon to save gary, and does explain the incessant CWing to gary
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i'm mostly incapable of directly assuming wape and fort as town as the game is although i'll read more into it in a few hours, with fort being my most preferred vote for now
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Post by quojova on Jun 22, 2021 14:05:27 GMT
it does not seem like the night actions clear anyone cleanly
the scumteam is confirmed not me+wallape
which leaves
chaos+fort
chaos+wallape
fort+wallape
I think any of these are plausible rn and I would not instantly eliminate chaos+fort on the basis of yesterday and today alone because distancing in the d4 situation is very very valuable
no matter what someone bussed gary pretty hard so it's worth going back and looking at that
and from your povs these are also possible
me+fort
me+chaos
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 22, 2021 15:25:39 GMT
it does not seem like the night actions clear anyone cleanly the scumteam is confirmed not me+wallape which leaves chaos+fort chaos+wallape fort+wallape I think any of these are plausible rn and I would not instantly eliminate chaos+fort on the basis of yesterday and today alone because distancing in the d4 situation is very very valuable no matter what someone bussed gary pretty hard so it's worth going back and looking at that and from your povs these are also possible me+fort me+chaos Sigh , Here we go again. Me + Fort : Means I was pushing my partners EVERY SINGLE DAY while also hard townreading the counterwagon for most of these days ( ddlc , Peng , sky) . Does that seem plausible to you? Of course it would be Me + Wallape : Would mean Gary survived 3 days with both of his scumpartners pushing him. Like , I know this town is a certified potato cult but no scum can survive this long even with your exemplary potato abilities if both the partners are trying to bus him. That should be convincing enough for someone who can think , but it wont be enough for you. |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 22, 2021 15:33:15 GMT
it does not seem like the night actions clear anyone cleanly the scumteam is confirmed not me+wallape which leaves chaos+fort chaos+wallape fort+wallape I think any of these are plausible rn and I would not instantly eliminate chaos+fort on the basis of yesterday and today alone because distancing in the d4 situation is very very valuable no matter what someone bussed gary pretty hard so it's worth going back and looking at that and from your povs these are also possible me+fort me+chaos
You would probably ignore that and talk about sky being scum or Gary's gEnUiNe sHaRp criticism or whatever
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Post by wallape on Jun 22, 2021 15:37:52 GMT
it does not seem like the night actions clear anyone cleanly the scumteam is confirmed not me+wallape which leaves chaos+fort chaos+wallape fort+wallape I think any of these are plausible rn and I would not instantly eliminate chaos+fort on the basis of yesterday and today alone because distancing in the d4 situation is very very valuable no matter what someone bussed gary pretty hard so it's worth going back and looking at that and from your povs these are also possible me+fort me+chaos
You would probably ignore that and talk about sky being scum or Gary's gEnUiNe sHaRp criticism or whatever
or i could just be town who stayed on gary because he thought that gary was actually scum. |
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Post by wallape on Jun 22, 2021 15:48:13 GMT
I don't have much to say tbh its just POE for me for scum to be quo+fort
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 22, 2021 15:50:00 GMT
As for wallape hard bussing Gary , antagonizing each other was the tone that was set from the start. Wallape already shifted off Gary to the main counterwagon once in D2 and it would look extremely odd if shifted off Gary towards the end of D4 as well . I would have called out Gary - wallape being in a team if that event had transpired.
You would probably ignore that and talk about sky being scum or Gary's gEnUiNe sHaRp criticism or whatever
or i could just be town who stayed on gary because he thought that gary was actually scum.
Not to mention bussing at a point where jk and doc were still alive would put you in a terrible position. And it did. And then a significant portion of a remaining town decided to misplace their brains and forsake all of those advantages |
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Post by wallape on Jun 22, 2021 15:52:14 GMT
fam u don't have to insult us at every remark ppl make mistakes and have bad games its ok just move on this is getting annoying
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 22, 2021 16:14:45 GMT
Wait a second , wallape was actually on the counter wagon and not on Gary d1. He was only there on d3 and d4. For some reason I thought he was.
Not that it changes anything significant.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 22, 2021 23:01:04 GMT
at this point chaos is straight up just using potato town insults to hide the gaping holes in his logic
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 23, 2021 4:44:28 GMT
articunight , Id recommend you vote with me so that plur isnt shifted at the last second
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 23, 2021 7:06:46 GMT
lynch chaostrodon i think we do this today. It's the most clear scum and his partner is either quo or wallape. I'm looking at quo as the most likely suspect.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 23, 2021 7:07:08 GMT
Vote: Chaostrodon
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Post by smallworldz on Jun 23, 2021 12:58:50 GMT
hammer 3
chaostrodon(1):fortcolors
Fortcolors (1)*:chaostrodon
not voting(3):articunight,wallape,quojova
Deadline is in 11 hours from editing of this post.
If deadline was now Fortcolors would be voted off.
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Post by wallape on Jun 23, 2021 13:00:54 GMT
Didn't fort get voted by chaos?
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 23, 2021 13:58:07 GMT
Either way , I dont think there is any way Fort isnt scum Vote Fortcolorsidk how strictly host's adhering to formatting but this is technically missing a colon :L |
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Post by smallworldz on Jun 23, 2021 14:31:29 GMT
fixed
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