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Post by articunight on Jun 7, 2021 19:53:53 GMT
my takeaway from this is that vertigo is avoiding pushing ddlc because of and found cyan as a convenient alternate target just so he could do something to clarify, I think that post is in favor of ddlc+vertigo, but is so light that it's mostly just inconclusive. I might just be slightly confused, but isn't it generally the case that scumpartners avoid having interactions between each other? you could try to claim that its just reverse psych or smth, but its kinda dumb to attempt that in what is kinda a newbie game(A) and also day 1(B). Even if ddlc flips scum, its kinda weird that you'd fos ddlc+verti together at this stage. This is something i noticed from cyan too, for an early scumteam fos its just odd |
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Post by quojova on Jun 7, 2021 19:56:01 GMT
now unlike you, i'm not as reserved. Unvote: wallapeVote: ddlcfan69needless to say ddlc's tone in this post feels passive aggressive to me Personally, mixed feelings on sfl. This shift seemed to easy per se. I liked the follow up reasons in their very next post, but the shift itself I'm uncertain of. why would scum want to shift there? |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 7, 2021 19:57:52 GMT
to clarify, I think that post is in favor of ddlc+vertigo, but is so light that it's mostly just inconclusive. I might just be slightly confused, but isn't it generally the case that scumpartners avoid having interactions between each other? you could try to claim that its just reverse psych or smth, but its kinda dumb to attempt that in what is kinda a newbie game(A) and also day 1(B). Even if ddlc flips scum, its kinda weird that you'd fos ddlc+verti together at this stage. This is something i noticed from cyan too, for an early scumteam fos its just odd Wait, is this a newbie game? I'm looking at a lot of names I recognize and I'd have thought it was largely veterans. Scumpartners avoiding interacting sounds like a super-noob strat. In fact, someone in thread has already mentioned scumbuddies conversing to collectively seem town. It's not reverse psych, it's just actually playing. |
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Post by quojova on Jun 7, 2021 20:02:44 GMT
I’m alive!!! Was struggling to find the post (because im lazy) but we here! Wrong game  anyways from my reading ddlc is scum. the aggressive tone screams that to me. why is ddlc being aggressive indicative of scum? not liking that this is all you have to add tbh |
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Post by PenguinD on Jun 7, 2021 20:02:46 GMT
I might just be slightly confused, but isn't it generally the case that scumpartners avoid having interactions between each other? you could try to claim that its just reverse psych or smth, but its kinda dumb to attempt that in what is kinda a newbie game(A) and also day 1(B). Even if ddlc flips scum, its kinda weird that you'd fos ddlc+verti together at this stage. This is something i noticed from cyan too, for an early scumteam fos its just odd Wait, is this a newbie game? I'm looking at a lot of names I recognize and I'd have thought it was largely veterans. Scumpartners avoiding interacting sounds like a super-noob strat. In fact, someone in thread has already mentioned scumbuddies conversing to collectively seem town. It's not reverse psych, it's just actually playing. Lots of people who haven’t been on forums but they’ve been playing on PS. |
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 7, 2021 20:04:35 GMT
I might just be slightly confused, but isn't it generally the case that scumpartners avoid having interactions between each other? you could try to claim that its just reverse psych or smth, but its kinda dumb to attempt that in what is kinda a newbie game(A) and also day 1(B). Even if ddlc flips scum, its kinda weird that you'd fos ddlc+verti together at this stage. This is something i noticed from cyan too, for an early scumteam fos its just odd Wait, is this a newbie game? I'm looking at a lot of names I recognize and I'd have thought it was largely veterans. Scumpartners avoiding interacting sounds like a super-noob strat. In fact, someone in thread has already mentioned scumbuddies conversing to collectively seem town. It's not reverse psych, it's just actually playing. Why would veterans players refrain from doing it tho, now that you mentionned that it is a super-noob strat |
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Post by PenguinD on Jun 7, 2021 20:04:45 GMT
Wrong game anyways from my reading ddlc is scum. the aggressive tone screams that to me. why is ddlc being aggressive indicative of scum? not liking that this is all you have to add tbh ddlc isn’t aggressive as town. |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 7, 2021 20:05:57 GMT
What interactions did he avoid? and can you rephrase this maybe I'm not getting it To clarify : cyan did not mind looking at other possibilities and his first (and currently only) assumption is that the ddlc tone suggests ddlc+me while not minding looking at other options, and further guiding town discussion over this. The town cyan i know would not be this stubborn and would look at other meaning over these posts, but he did not the ESL is giving me a headache. I'm sorry if that's discriminatory but I find this post unclear so i'm gonna try and translate it.
please tell me if i mistranslated somewhere, it was unintentional and I just want to make sure I'm understanding exactly what you're trying to say.
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Post by articunight on Jun 7, 2021 20:06:12 GMT
I might just be slightly confused, but isn't it generally the case that scumpartners avoid having interactions between each other? you could try to claim that its just reverse psych or smth, but its kinda dumb to attempt that in what is kinda a newbie game(A) and also day 1(B). Even if ddlc flips scum, its kinda weird that you'd fos ddlc+verti together at this stage. This is something i noticed from cyan too, for an early scumteam fos its just odd Wait, is this a newbie game? I'm looking at a lot of names I recognize and I'd have thought it was largely veterans. Scumpartners avoiding interacting sounds like a super-noob strat. In fact, someone in thread has already mentioned scumbuddies conversing to collectively seem town. It's not reverse psych, it's just actually playing. honestly now i'm not sure but lgi either wayN, i do understand that blatant interaction avoidance is super scummy, but forcefully seeking out interactions in a targeted manner draws attention, as is visible :^ following that idm aggressiveness, not necessarily ai but its somehow also not what i expect from ddlc after chatmafia  |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 7, 2021 20:08:20 GMT
Wait, is this a newbie game? I'm looking at a lot of names I recognize and I'd have thought it was largely veterans. Scumpartners avoiding interacting sounds like a super-noob strat. In fact, someone in thread has already mentioned scumbuddies conversing to collectively seem town. It's not reverse psych, it's just actually playing. Why would veterans players refrain from doing it tho, now that you mentionned that it is a super-noob strat Because it's extremely suspicious and fairly noticeable if specific players just intentionally avoid interacting with specific other players. |
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 7, 2021 20:09:33 GMT
To clarify : cyan did not mind looking at other possibilities and his first (and currently only) assumption is that the ddlc tone suggests ddlc+me while not minding looking at other options, and further guiding town discussion over this. The town cyan i know would not be this stubborn and would look at other meaning over these posts, but he did not the ESL is giving me a headache. I'm sorry if that's discriminatory but I find this post unclear so i'm gonna try and translate it.
please tell me if i mistranslated somewhere, it was unintentional and I just want to make sure I'm understanding exactly what you're trying to say.
zzz i should refrain from making long sentences without double checking, but yeah you got it |
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Post by quojova on Jun 7, 2021 20:12:30 GMT
why is ddlc being aggressive indicative of scum? not liking that this is all you have to add tbh ddlc isn’t aggressive as town. I have like no faith in your pmeta (is it only on-sim?) because his last forum game was months ago and even then there's some pretty surface-level aggressive stuff from him in Mononoke mafia I think this is just lazy and you are not showing any intention to convince anyone of your opinions - I'd appreciate more there |
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 7, 2021 20:12:49 GMT
Sorry for the bad english of course, will try to make my posts understandable enough in the future
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Post by quojova on Jun 7, 2021 20:17:14 GMT
What interactions did he avoid? and can you rephrase this maybe I'm not getting it To clarify : cyan did not mind looking at other possibilities and his first (and currently only) assumption is that the ddlc tone suggests ddlc+me while not minding looking at other options, and further guiding town discussion over this. The town cyan i know would not be this stubborn and would look at other meaning over these posts, but he did not as far as I could tell he only "guided" further discussion around the ddlc+you scumteam because I brought it up again as a weak point why is so disappointing for you for Cyan to consider that angle shortly in like 1 post and respond back after I brought it up again? what other meaning were you hoping Cyan would find? |
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 7, 2021 20:18:36 GMT
Why would veterans players refrain from doing it tho, now that you mentionned that it is a super-noob strat Because it's extremely suspicious and fairly noticeable if specific players just intentionally avoid interacting with specific other players. 1. It's day 1. Pointing out the lack of interactions on day 1 can't be a valid argument. 2. Playing suboptimally isn't prohibited as far as i know, and is an actual strategy used by a lot of people from the mafia knowledge i currently have. |
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 7, 2021 20:22:48 GMT
To clarify : cyan did not mind looking at other possibilities and his first (and currently only) assumption is that the ddlc tone suggests ddlc+me while not minding looking at other options, and further guiding town discussion over this. The town cyan i know would not be this stubborn and would look at other meaning over these posts, but he did not as far as I could tell he only "guided" further discussion around the ddlc+you scumteam because I brought it up again as a weak point why is so disappointing for you for Cyan to consider that angle shortly in like 1 post and respond back after I brought it up again? what other meaning were you hoping Cyan would find? Unlike you, Cyan played a lot of ps mafia on-sim with us, and is much more aware about how the interactions between ddlc and I goes. |
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Post by quojova on Jun 7, 2021 20:23:04 GMT
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Post by quojova on Jun 7, 2021 20:26:31 GMT
as far as I could tell he only "guided" further discussion around the ddlc+you scumteam because I brought it up again as a weak point why is so disappointing for you for Cyan to consider that angle shortly in like 1 post and respond back after I brought it up again? what other meaning were you hoping Cyan would find? Unlike you, Cyan played a lot of ps mafia on-sim with us, and is much more aware about how the interactions between ddlc and I goes. I'm just not getting why you think it's so egregious that he would briefly consider a vertigo-ddlc connection ddlc's post |
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Post by quojova on Jun 7, 2021 20:27:19 GMT
Unlike you, Cyan played a lot of ps mafia on-sim with us, and is much more aware about how the interactions between ddlc and I goes. I'm just not getting why you think it's so egregious that he would briefly consider a vertigo-ddlc connection from ddlc's post EBWOP |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 7, 2021 20:27:20 GMT
Because it's extremely suspicious and fairly noticeable if specific players just intentionally avoid interacting with specific other players. 1. It's day 1. Pointing out the lack of interactions on day 1 can't be a valid argument. 2. Playing suboptimally isn't prohibited as far as i know, and is an actual strategy used by a lot of people from the mafia knowledge i currently have. I agree with 1, but the inverse applies as well. Because not interacting with each other doesn't mean you're scum, interacting with each other doesn't mean you're town. And that is why I questioned articuno's claim that scum wouldn't interact with each other day 1. |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 7, 2021 20:29:20 GMT
and hey, if scum want to play suboptimally then i see no problems with that n_n
but we shouldn't assume they are.
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 7, 2021 20:30:51 GMT
Getting into the game all of a sudden and having to read through 100 posts made me forget to present myself.
I am Vertigo, I'm 20 years old and I'm from France. I started playing PS Mafia during UGO and stayed after because I like the community and social games.
Besides PS Mafia I also play other social games, like EiMM. I also like to play board games but I'm bad at chess someone learn me please.
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 7, 2021 20:34:31 GMT
and hey, if scum want to play suboptimally then i see no problems with that n_n but we shouldn't assume they are. Of course, I never said they are, just that they can possibly do it just so people are aware that it can happen. |
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 7, 2021 20:56:57 GMT
Unlike you, Cyan played a lot of ps mafia on-sim with us, and is much more aware about how the interactions between ddlc and I goes. I'm just not getting why you think it's so egregious that he would briefly consider a vertigo-ddlc connectionfrom ddlc's post That's the point actually. If Cyan did gave other possibilities towards the meaning of ddlc's post, I wouldn't mind but the fact that he is locked on ddlc-me is intriguing, and that's what I'm asking explanations for. |
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 7, 2021 20:58:54 GMT
Cyan's considerations about me-ddlc are anything but brief, especially when you brought it up again.
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anyways from my reading ddlc is scum. the aggressive tone screams that to me.
