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Post by passthesaltdude on Jun 22, 2021 1:48:08 GMT
Hi i can answer this a bit better now, whilst it isn’t much here goes: i feel as though the work as ptsd (pmeta alert!) is quite good for town and far exceeds what he does as scum d1, furthermore i heavily sl them. (I’m happy to fetch some logs if you’d like) + they’re handling plur pressure well. i’d also like to put a slight tl on vertigo, have been actively going for reads trying to get other peoples opinions to shape a better view of the game. uhm what exactly is out of his scum range? I feel like ur tr'ing him bc he's been the most active. But activity =/= town. I probably wouldn't vote him today since he's the most active player rn and we could use more activity promoting, but unless u have smth else i don't buy that I like dan here. His kaif read is good. I think vertigo is also probably town but idk if they've been going for other ppls opinions. Also curious here, because if you see Sheep as scum, and you believe that their TR on me isn’t completely justified, what do you think that means? Do you think they are trying to buddy a prominent slot in the game atm to try and get town credit, or do you think that they are trying to make their scum partner look better with this read? and on the subject of scum partner, if Sheep is scum do you see any potential partners for them yet?
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Post by wallape on Jun 22, 2021 1:51:42 GMT
uhm what exactly is out of his scum range? I feel like ur tr'ing him bc he's been the most active. But activity =/= town. I probably wouldn't vote him today since he's the most active player rn and we could use more activity promoting, but unless u have smth else i don't buy that I like dan here. His kaif read is good. I think vertigo is also probably town but idk if they've been going for other ppls opinions. How do you feel about TOS and Gary here, they are similar to Kaif and Veritgo in terms that they both feel like they are fake active, do you think they are just lazy town or do you think that either of them could be scum that’s taking opportunity of the huge amount of filler to make excuses as to not have reads and to not really contribute TOS seems ok to me, light tl mostly because their early filler seemed like they were trying to generate activity. This is subject to change based on future days though. Gary is null to me, he has had like 5 likes off the top of my head and most dont seem particularly townie or scummy, especially without any flips to tell rn.
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Post by passthesaltdude on Jun 22, 2021 1:56:15 GMT
I believe I tried to make the tone as memey as possible on purpose! Also erry had like 2 votes or smth idk, they were by no means an easy push. In fact, I did not even try to case them like I did with sheep. I saw them talking so I was like why not vote them to see how they'd respond, while also laying a trap. Votes can be moved for a reason might as well utilize ur votes as much as u can instead of staying stagnant and getting little info from the vote Also I don't think anyone who called me out would've been sr'd. I'd have taken it on a more case to case basis. If they decided to hard push me based on just that, I'd 100% have voted them. If they're like 'yo wallape ur shift makes no sense explain' I probably wouldn't have I guess I just didn’t pick up on the memey tone, and it doesn’t make sense to me to use a memey tone instead of just say what you were thinking. But i’ll give you benefit of the doubt here I can see where you are coming from from the perspective of the trap, it doesn’t seem like an effective trap imo, but once again I can kind of see where you were coming from. Though you can see how it’s suspicious right? like imagine I just right now randomly shifted to Vertigo (while i’ve been somewhat questioning/ pushing you) and when I get called out for the vote my explanation is “I shifted onto Vertigo to pressure them and also it was a trap for if anyone Scumread me from it they would be suspicious for it”. It FEELS like a lazy excuse. I’m not saying it is from you, but you can see why it seems like that, right?
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Post by wallape on Jun 22, 2021 1:56:47 GMT
uhm what exactly is out of his scum range? I feel like ur tr'ing him bc he's been the most active. But activity =/= town. I probably wouldn't vote him today since he's the most active player rn and we could use more activity promoting, but unless u have smth else i don't buy that I like dan here. His kaif read is good. I think vertigo is also probably town but idk if they've been going for other ppls opinions. Also curious here, because if you see Sheep as scum, and you believe that their TR on me isn’t completely justified, what do you think that means? Do you think they are trying to buddy a prominent slot in the game atm to try and get town credit, or do you think that they are trying to make their scum partner look better with this read? and on the subject of scum partner, if Sheep is scum do you see any potential partners for them yet? I think it's just him trying to give a read for the sake of giving reads to me since I called him out. Unless he actually has smth else I'm going to continue assuming this. I would've said u/sheep have partner possibility but it seems like u have too many interactions with sheep to be a partner. Id cross out scorr/ sheep team for obvious reasons. So basically my answer is, no.
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Post by wallape on Jun 22, 2021 1:58:50 GMT
I mean yeah I can see it from ur perspective. I think the context that my vote staying on sheep would be kinda useless in solving him until he woke up is important
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Post by passthesaltdude on Jun 22, 2021 2:00:53 GMT
Also curious here, because if you see Sheep as scum, and you believe that their TR on me isn’t completely justified, what do you think that means? Do you think they are trying to buddy a prominent slot in the game atm to try and get town credit, or do you think that they are trying to make their scum partner look better with this read? and on the subject of scum partner, if Sheep is scum do you see any potential partners for them yet? I think it's just him trying to give a read for the sake of giving reads to me since I called him out. Unless he actually has smth else I'm going to continue assuming this. I would've said u/sheep have partner possibility but it seems like u have too many interactions with sheep to be a partner. Id cross out scorr/ sheep team for obvious reasons. So basically my answer is, no. If he was making reads for the sake of reads as scum, couldn’t he just throw out a scumread on an already heavily scumread / looked at slot? (also before people get confused, i’m not defending sheep, I just want to see your perspective on it) Also one final thing, how do you feel about Quo and Veteran? I know they haven’t given us almost anything but from the little you’ve seen from them how do you feel about them?
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Post by passthesaltdude on Jun 22, 2021 2:02:29 GMT
I mean yeah I can see it from ur perspective. I think the context that my vote staying on sheep would be kinda useless in solving him until he woke up is important Yeah that’s completely fair. It is a good thing to diversify votes to apply pressure to slots you aren’t sure about, I guess the fact that it was that slot in particular felt weird to me at the time, but also thought that slot had a lot more votes than it already did! I’m honestly kind of just happy that there’s finally someone here who’s active, cause this is the first time i’ve really been invested in a mafia game in a while, and everyone seems afk or just fillering.
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Post by wallape on Jun 22, 2021 2:09:37 GMT
I think it's just him trying to give a read for the sake of giving reads to me since I called him out. Unless he actually has smth else I'm going to continue assuming this. I would've said u/sheep have partner possibility but it seems like u have too many interactions with sheep to be a partner. Id cross out scorr/ sheep team for obvious reasons. So basically my answer is, no. If he was making reads for the sake of reads as scum, couldn’t he just throw out a scumread on an already heavily scumread / looked at slot? (also before people get confused, i’m not defending sheep, I just want to see your perspective on it) Also one final thing, how do you feel about Quo and Veteran? I know they haven’t given us almost anything but from the little you’ve seen from them how do you feel about them? Who here is widely scumread anyways? They didn't give any sr's at all. Looking at it in a town perspective ur slot has most content meaning ur easiest to read for him so im ok with him reading you, but it also feels like the reasoning for the tr is off, which makes me want to look at it from a scum!sheep perspective who is throwing out an easy tr on the active person. Dont have any particular read on quo. Pretty much null for me. Padgett might be town because he's going for quo d1, who gives me townleader vibes every game I see them. As scum someone would probably go for a weaker slot on d1, but this boils down to wifom so this is a weak read
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Post by passthesaltdude on Jun 22, 2021 2:13:23 GMT
If he was making reads for the sake of reads as scum, couldn’t he just throw out a scumread on an already heavily scumread / looked at slot? (also before people get confused, i’m not defending sheep, I just want to see your perspective on it) Also one final thing, how do you feel about Quo and Veteran? I know they haven’t given us almost anything but from the little you’ve seen from them how do you feel about them? Who here is widely scumread anyways? They didn't give any sr's at all. Looking at it in a town perspective ur slot has most content meaning ur easiest to read for him so im ok with him reading you, but it also feels like the reasoning for the tr is off, which makes me want to look at it from a scum!sheep perspective who is throwing out an easy tr on the active person. Dont have any particular read on quo. Pretty much null for me. Padgett might be town because he's going for quo d1, who gives me townleader vibes every game I see them. As scum someone would probably go for a weaker slot on d1, but this boils down to wifom so this is a weak read Cool, I actually like this post a lot. I can see your reasoning and thought process, and I do agree that the actual reasoning for the townread is a little vague and i’d absolutely love to see Sheep give the logs they were talking about. But being the person they townread I understand what they mean when they say Pmeta and difference from other games ( though i’ll let them elaborate on it if they choose!)
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Post by passthesaltdude on Jun 22, 2021 2:18:16 GMT
Also I may be really dumb saying this, and I might accidentally name all town. But since I might be gone for the next day due to a conflict in schedule, I might as well throw out some current scumteam reads. And once again this is completely speculative and isn’t meant to be taken too seriously.
Wallape+ Gary + Quo + Some player who hasn’t spoken at all
I don’t know who the 4th player would be (im also making this on the assumption that the main faction has 4 players since that seems the most logical)
But i’ve given reasons on Wallape, and honestly I could see a world where this is scum Gary and where Veteran is right about Quo. + I feel like if Wallape is scum with gary and Quo they’d go for the safe choice and put a Null read on both of them to avoid association if either die and flip scum!!
Once again this is completely speculative and not anything concrete, it just was a thought that popped up in my head, and felt way too possible for me not to mention
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Post by Kaif on Jun 22, 2021 3:29:54 GMT
can both of you stop only interacting with eachother
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Post by Kaif on Jun 22, 2021 3:30:08 GMT
push someone or something
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Post by Kaif on Jun 22, 2021 3:30:48 GMT
Gm btw
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 22, 2021 3:44:57 GMT
Oh boy so much has happened today this is wonderful! Now why doesnt everyone casually blurb with me and... Watch this drive
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 22, 2021 3:50:29 GMT
Honestly looking at this, my biggest gripe here is that Veritgo posting this just feels like extra filler. I feel like at least Gary’s post here contributes here by explaining the problem with TOS. And Vertigo adds even more nothing to a day that was already pretty bare bones. I really want to see more from veritgo when they wake up ( and of course I want to see more from everyone) because I can’t tell if their posts so far are just a natural product of everyone fillering (which I too was guilty of) or if those posts are just what to expect from them even on an active day Funny how you are focusing on my single line, when people kept posting fillers after I went to sleep. Poor attempt of trying to guide discussion over me, but I'll take it and go on with. One line is annoying me in your post. I can’t tell if their posts so far are just a natural product of everyone fillering (which I too was guilty of) or if those posts are just what to expect from them even on an active dayGirlie the day started only a few minutes before I posted this, how can you make such assumptions looking at only a few posts ? Where are your contributions to town ? Don't make assumptions based on 3 posts thank you.A yes ofc the classic deflection... Vertigo must realise that by playing the reverse uno card and basically saying "everyone fillered why am i being picked out, now u sus" is clearly a flawed and v suspicious. I especially dislike when he questions the validity of ptsds posts and basically tries to discredit ptsds entire game from a couple reads.
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 22, 2021 3:51:03 GMT
Especially when ddlc keep posting your mom jokes but you didn't bother saying a word about it. CLASSIC DEFLECTION
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Post by mightycannon on Jun 22, 2021 3:51:48 GMT
until either of those people come back it's hard to get an exact read on the game. It’s not those slots that are holding us back from the reading the game Quojova, Newsdan, Mightycannon, Snackers, Ocean, Vertigo, Veteran ,Erry are all slots that have given the bare minimum, and a lot of these slots have given 0 thought towards the actual game state and have been null on a lot of topics. This is essentially 8 slots that are null and that can’t change until they give us more to work with (With some exceptions, Like I think what Veteran and Erry have given us have been very townie. And how what I think Quo has been scummy) Vertigo has been more active now but I haven’t seen them give their thoughts on anyone yet Ocean was here in the beginning but that was when everyone else was fillering and now they’ve just disappeared I had 0 idea Newsdan, Mightycannon, and Snackers were playing. That says a lot about what their posts have contributed to the game state, and how active they’ve actually been I really am here but I have no thoughts tbh the day 1 filtering isn't weird
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 22, 2021 3:53:39 GMT
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Post by quojova on Jun 22, 2021 3:55:19 GMT
I'm catching up
it seems like sheep really thought he just owned scorr on page 5 when he did not
i like him
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 22, 2021 4:01:36 GMT
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Do you feel like quo making this post is an excuse they are using now for when there reads are wrong? Or did you just get mad that they pinged you? Cuz like i dont understand how quo came out of the gate with faction reads just random pings I was referring to ptsd post not quo's. I don't agree with quo voting ptsd for ptsd's read post. Making excuses for later is why quojova's last post is bad in general, but also the awkwardness they are referring to today would be ptsd or maybe tos. Seems like a cop out for voting ptsd. O so... You think Quo is sus because they thought ptsd was being sus ic... ye ya know thats a good point but i feel like quo just worked with the content he had at the time and felt like he had to come up with something which apparently was questioning wheter or not theres a third party which... I think only a town would do honestly because scum would like try to feign ignorance here
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 22, 2021 4:03:32 GMT
Ocean is still scummy wummy I still have no thoughts for the sheep slot Or any other slots i love the enthusiasm hun... The effort is Wonderful.... but........ but why? ?
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Post by quojova on Jun 22, 2021 4:07:39 GMT
what in the world would he be distracting from; nothing has happened I get the feeling that you did not care very much at all about being accurate when you wrote that this whole post is drawing way too much tbh vote ptsdit feels like the big challenge this game is going to be separating awkwardness from scumminess Having faction reads in the first content post is pretty out there, but it served its purpose of starting discussion and seems NAI to me. You're last post is just eugh. Vote quojovaI'm latching onto the distraction bit in particular as the weirdest part of ptsd's post because to me it indicates that the post is busywork it looks like ptsd did not even consider for a second if that postulation could be true and that is weird to me if he is writing the post for anything other than appearance I want him to respond though because there is quite possibly something I cannot think of that tos could be distracting from?? but it currently does not make sense to me
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Post by quojova on Jun 22, 2021 4:08:52 GMT
termsofservice have you played any forum games before this on other sites btw
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 22, 2021 4:15:53 GMT
until either of those people come back it's hard to get an exact read on the game. It’s not those slots that are holding us back from the reading the game Quojova, Newsdan, Mightycannon, Snackers, Ocean, Vertigo, Veteran ,Erry are all slots that have given the bare minimum, and a lot of these slots have given 0 thought towards the actual game state and have been null on a lot of topics. This is essentially 8 slots that are null and that can’t change until they give us more to work with (With some exceptions, Like I think what Veteran and Erry have given us have been very townie. And how what I think Quo has been scummy) Vertigo has been more active now but I haven’t seen them give their thoughts on anyone yet Ocean was here in the beginning but that was when everyone else was fillering and now they’ve just disappeared I had 0 idea Newsdan, Mightycannon, and Snackers were playing. That says a lot about what their posts have contributed to the game state, and how active they’ve actually been This. This is true in every forum game ive ever played sadly, and sadly its likely one or more of them is scum trying to hide... The best thing we can do here is make posts about them in order to get them involved in the game i suppose... Also omg Mighty is in this game were saved! Also I feel like vertigo had the worse entrance of anyone in the game and nows hes gone back in his hidey hole. slight sr on him because I want him to not cry in a corner and deflect every time there is conflict. Feels like he might be hoping that he can help from the background and pile everything on to ptsd then eventually express that he doesnt sr them anymore so he doesnt look sus when ptsd flips town.
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Post by quojova on Jun 22, 2021 4:17:06 GMT
I read the shit that was sent while I was sleeping and y'all are weirdos with your reads First of all the fillering means jack shit about if you should tr/Sr me it was only to start a conversation The GTS read for being agressive is weird because it sounded more like disappointment And then I literally have no fucking idea what the rest of the rrad Gary? Agressive? does that make him scum? Why? Does Gary want to be seen as agressive? If hes scum does being agressive benefit him gamewise instead of trying to buddy other town? These are the questions i ask b4 myself... Gary is town did you actually decide gary is town here I can't tell if yes what's so special about his posts in this game
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