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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 1:12:07 GMT
so the only ways wallape can be scum with that are if he was asceticized by his own role somehow, asceticized by the mafia, or if he himself rbed wape (i really doubt maf rbs dan there)
this is starting to feel like a lot of specific conditions unlikely that have to be true for wape to be scum
whereas for ddlc to be scum i basically just have to be wrong on a content read and they had to have made an idle play which seems more plausible
i lean voting ddlc atm but i still have a lot to do at somepoint
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 1:12:31 GMT
so the only ways wallape can be scum with that are if he was asceticized by his own role somehow, asceticized by the mafia, or if he himself rbed wape (i really doubt maf rbs dan there) this is starting to feel like a lot of specific conditions unlikely that have to be true for wape to be scum whereas for ddlc to be scum i basically just have to be wrong on a content read and they had to have made an idle play which seems more plausible i lean voting ddlc atm but i still have a lot to do at somepoint if he rbed dan*
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 11, 2021 2:01:53 GMT
so the only ways wallape can be scum with that are if he was asceticized by his own role somehow, asceticized by the mafia, or if he himself rbed wape (i really doubt maf rbs dan there) this is starting to feel like a lot of specific conditions unlikely that have to be true for wape to be scum whereas for ddlc to be scum i basically just have to be wrong on a content read and they had to have made an idle play which seems more plausible i lean voting ddlc atm but i still have a lot to do at somepoint ye probably so... Im reading quo now
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 11, 2021 2:08:08 GMT
D1:PTSD (1): PKQSpiderz (2): Snackers, Erry Ocean (1): OM Vertigo (2): ddlc, Padgett mighty (6): Wallape, Gary, sheep, News, Spiderz, Vertigo PKQ (5): PTSD, Kaif, Litt, mighty, Ocean D2:sheep (3): OM, Erry, PKQOcean (1): Wallape Vertigo (1): ddlc PKQ (8): PTSD, Snackers, Scorr, sheep, Spiderz, Padgett, News, Vertigo O Well firstly i did not know quo was voteless and basically had no reads for the first two days hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 11, 2021 2:18:39 GMT
ye...
It looks to me like quo hid for a while until d3, then became the quojava we all know and became alot more active. IG he hid and posted just enough to not get subbed until 2 scum died and he felt he could run things better?
I want to see how quickly quojava changes his tr on me now, and id also love an explanation as to why quo decided not to play for like the first 40 pages.
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 2:30:51 GMT
I don't tr you
I mean I would under normal circumstances as I've made clear but the current ones necessitate that no matter how towny I think you are the average of your and wallape's scumchances is 50%
I just want to say that like lurking strategically is not something I'm about at all
I think if you look at any of my past games this becomes clear
fwiw as I've mentioned I was gone for oog reasons (which im not interested in elaborating on) and while I had spare minutes here and there it took me like 2 hours to catch up so it wasn't something I could just fit in whenever
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 2:31:22 GMT
now that I've said that
ddlc is there anything im missing in terms of mechanical evidence going for you or wallape
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 11, 2021 3:30:04 GMT
I don't tr you I mean I would under normal circumstances as I've made clear but the current ones necessitate that no matter how towny I think you are the average of your and wallape's scumchances is 50% I just want to say that like lurking strategically is not something I'm about at all I think if you look at any of my past games this becomes clear fwiw as I've mentioned I was gone for oog reasons (which im not interested in elaborating on) and while I had spare minutes here and there it took me like 2 hours to catch up so it wasn't something I could just fit in whenever well you diddddddddddddddddddddddd tr me ig until it wasnt conveinient? Also ig I can take your word for that you could not play and you would not lurk as 3p but It seems very conveinient that you came back d3 and claimed an inspect on dan saying you sred him when you, as you said "could not fit anywhere" the time to scum hunt. Its quite strnge indeed... Also I am very aware of how you play, and i feel like if there was something so busy that it was impossible to be able to play you simply wouldnt.
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 11, 2021 3:32:07 GMT
now that I've said that ddlc is there anything im missing in terms of mechanical evidence going for you or wallape Probably not... I remember Dan claimed his hide B4 he used it so i think there is a ok chance he was rbed? That doesnt explain the no kills situation but thats all i got.
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 11, 2021 3:34:31 GMT
used my action last night which tells me what action a player did if they did something used it on newsdan because i scumread him but also felt like he would be chosen to carry the kill and got no action I am now aesceticized Feel like this could easily be fake... Especially the ascetized part to maybe say "oop im just a vt now" Can you explain why you sred dan? And was this sr in the 2 hours it took to catch up?
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 3:38:00 GMT
I don't tr you I mean I would under normal circumstances as I've made clear but the current ones necessitate that no matter how towny I think you are the average of your and wallape's scumchances is 50% I just want to say that like lurking strategically is not something I'm about at all I think if you look at any of my past games this becomes clear fwiw as I've mentioned I was gone for oog reasons (which im not interested in elaborating on) and while I had spare minutes here and there it took me like 2 hours to catch up so it wasn't something I could just fit in whenever well you diddddddddddddddddddddddd tr me ig until it wasnt conveinient? Also ig I can take your word for that you could not play and you would not lurk as 3p but It seems very conveinient that you came back d3 and claimed an inspect on dan saying you sred him when you, as you said "could not fit anywhere" the time to scum hunt. Its quite strnge indeed... Also I am very aware of how you play, and i feel like if there was something so busy that it was impossible to be able to play you simply wouldnt. ok so like i could more in depth into the exact reason i was gone but i also cant because it would be a game security breach for a very specific reason that i can elaborate on after the circuit is over but i cant now :| literally cannot say anything more about this
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 3:39:13 GMT
now that I've said that ddlc is there anything im missing in terms of mechanical evidence going for you or wallape Probably not... I remember Dan claimed his hide B4 he used it so i think there is a ok chance he was rbed? That doesnt explain the no kills situation but thats all i got. this might be what you mean but yea it means he wasn't rbed by maf in all likelihood but wallape has an rb it means he probably used it on dan that night does feel like a stretch tho
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 3:40:54 GMT
Probably not... I remember Dan claimed his hide B4 he used it so i think there is a ok chance he was rbed? That doesnt explain the no kills situation but thats all i got. this might be what you mean but yea it means he wasn't rbed by maf in all likelihood but wallape has an rb it means he probably used it on dan that night does feel like a stretch tho if wallape has an rb* actually i just had a thought erry has an action that has prio over other rbers that only makes sense if there are other rbers i know theres another mafia one but ill need to check if there are others in the game
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 3:41:32 GMT
used my action last night which tells me what action a player did if they did something used it on newsdan because i scumread him but also felt like he would be chosen to carry the kill and got no action I am now aesceticized Feel like this could easily be fake... Especially the ascetized part to maybe say "oop im just a vt now" Can you explain why you sred dan? And was this sr in the 2 hours it took to catch up? ok i literally do not remember the answer to either of these questions so i will check it
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 3:43:20 GMT
Feel like this could easily be fake... Especially the ascetized part to maybe say "oop im just a vt now" Can you explain why you sred dan? And was this sr in the 2 hours it took to catch up? ok i literally do not remember the answer to either of these questions so i will check it I do not understand what you find scummy about the ascetized part though
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 3:44:16 GMT
wait im super dumb
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 3:46:46 GMT
im not aestheticized because of some hidden bastard component of my role but because mafia targeted me with the asceticize n1
the formatting kinda confused
i wonder if this makes some things more certain
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 3:47:03 GMT
im not aestheticized because of some hidden bastard component of my role but because mafia targeted me with the asceticize n1 the formatting kinda confused i wonder if this makes some things more certain confused me*
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Post by wallape on Jul 11, 2021 3:52:14 GMT
ok fwiw the only ways i think the wallape action could have ended up that way n1 is if he was rbed by erry or vp which is kinda unlikely but it's tough to weigh how much it actually changes his scumodds; admittedly probably not a lot since that is probably what happened anyway I was lured by ptsd
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 11, 2021 3:52:21 GMT
well you diddddddddddddddddddddddd tr me ig until it wasnt conveinient? Also ig I can take your word for that you could not play and you would not lurk as 3p but It seems very conveinient that you came back d3 and claimed an inspect on dan saying you sred him when you, as you said "could not fit anywhere" the time to scum hunt. Its quite strnge indeed... Also I am very aware of how you play, and i feel like if there was something so busy that it was impossible to be able to play you simply wouldnt. ok so like i could more in depth into the exact reason i was gone but i also cant because it would be a game security breach for a very specific reason that i can elaborate on after the circuit is over but i cant now literally cannot say anything more about this Well isnt that Super!
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 11, 2021 3:53:29 GMT
this might be what you mean but yea it means he wasn't rbed by maf in all likelihood but wallape has an rb it means he probably used it on dan that night does feel like a stretch tho if wallape has an rb* actually i just had a thought erry has an action that has prio over other rbers that only makes sense if there are other rbers i know theres another mafia one but ill need to check if there are others in the game we have no idea WHAT the 3p is so like it could hmmmmm
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 3:54:26 GMT
ok that actually eliminates the primary way news might have not died when visiting scum!wallape
still need to check the other rbers thing
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Post by quojova on Jul 11, 2021 3:55:23 GMT
ok fwiw the only ways i think the wallape action could have ended up that way n1 is if he was rbed by erry or vp which is kinda unlikely but it's tough to weigh how much it actually changes his scumodds; admittedly probably not a lot since that is probably what happened anyway I was lured by ptsd how does your action work
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 11, 2021 3:55:34 GMT
im not aestheticized because of some hidden bastard component of my role but because mafia targeted me with the asceticize n1 the formatting kinda confused i wonder if this makes some things more certain They did? and theres a bastard component in a theme where there are "2. There are no mechanics that may be considered bastard."
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Post by wallape on Jul 11, 2021 3:56:20 GMT
how does your action work its literally just a normal md. I get to know if there was motion on a player
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