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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 11:40:22 GMT
thank u mr. survivor we asked you for days = would have cced to this Didn't want to claim survivor bc I thought having a confirmed alignment would just get me namekilled (see: lich) and I wasn't really under duress til today. The fact that you claim that you would have CC'd Survivor to a survivor claim means nothing since SK you could have pushed that just as easily and have real theoretical survivor flip non town. Scum killing survivor is an objectively anti-faction play, so the fact that you were worried about that is unrealistic considering how many other good players are more likely to be name killed The fact that you only were gonna claim until you were about to get voted out proves even more that you did not have an actual survivor mindset because real survivor would have known that past D1, that would have just made them look even more scummier, because look at the position you are in now!! This is bar the fact that you acknowledged that claiming survivor D1 is better for survivor (I'm pretty sure, gonna have to look back) and how low the odds of you actually being survivor actually is. You also pretty actively played to be town read most of the game and antagonized a lot of scummy players which would actually increase your likelihood of being fear killed as opposed to claiming survivor. Anything you claim to be survivor softs past day one can literally just be disregarded because of how easily you could have set them up This would have all been avoided if you claimed N1, but you didn't, because you don't have a true survivor mindset, and you are scum |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 11:47:42 GMT
Why do you even care if you are not SK Gotta feed my ego !_! That has nothing to do with your ego? Your ego is fine if you are actually survivor, considering I would just be wrong that the very contrived set of actions that would result in SK dying N1 didn't happen and the super low percent chance actually happened ?_? Again Not A Survivor Mindset But Go Off !!!! But my NKA is not bullshit considering there are 3 doc claims on ddlc/me/penguin n2. DDLC/Penguin can be eliminated because of logic, if you paid attention to my posts, which would lower it down to two. |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 11:55:28 GMT
You were told to claim D1 to avoid this exact situation because it was optimal for both Survivor Wincon and Town Wincon, but you didn't claim, and any competent survivor, which you are, would have foreseen this situation and claimed because Theaph pointed it out many times. The only reason you didn't claim N1 is that you would have been CC'd. Now you are L-2 and claim, and expect people to believe you because you softed AFTER 2 Non-Town die? I'm not gonna play this cat and mouse game to break down how obvious of a lie this is, especially since you had no fear of being fear killed when you were calling people out left and right and were making urself visible N1 and N2.
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 11:58:50 GMT
GN this is a fake claim and a half, we all acknowledged this was not optimal for town, read through his iso, and tell me his play came from survivor with how much he was doing to get Schia and kaif to town read him all game, with how many times he attacked potential scum, without any regard of the repercussions of being town read or provoking players.
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 12:03:17 GMT
I'm heading to bed, Penguin is pseudo-clear through logic and NKA if you care to read my post and care about truly POEing a win here, it's also really convenient that PTSD role blocks the survivor BG btw js.
I expect hammer by the time I wake up.
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 12:05:12 GMT
this means mafia can fakeclaim surv basically if it went that way If anyone were to claim surv I think they would be voted out. GN. |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Jul 29, 2021 12:50:25 GMT
Vote OM
OM is Survivor and I am the queen of england
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 12:57:47 GMT
An alive sk could have targeted a maf!peng who was protected bc Alex was trolling A. In this narrative OM would still be confirmed scum B. This is reaching for an alternate conclusion to the OM killed Me or Litt N2 narrative (it was most likely me if we are being real which would confirm penguino ) C. This narrative does not account for D3 because D3 is incredibly inconsistent with this narrative D. This is trying to avoid solving our Docs by presenting it as a solution to us making sense of N2 which also "fits in with these docs claim" when in reality this narrative hinges on the fact that you first prove why Peng is mafia over Alex E. This might have been just a joke or something but if you truly believed in this you would have also shifted to OM since he would still be confirmed scum in this narrative, instead it reads as if you are trying to case penguin so desperately and that you are trying to get votes off OM considering that you don't vote OM yourself F. You are absolutely tunneling Penguin right now G. You are willfully ignoring the fact that Alex also did not doc the clear, (granted he didn't know ddlc was clear N2). But Alex had also known 2 clears N3, are we expected to believe he docced a doc that was receiving votes, and may have been a fake claim, over 2 clears, and all the while did not check the rolelist once? H. Yes you did move discussion to a better place but you also are still deflecting from the last convo to post this nonsense I. You still think Articoo Mafia OS PGO and Vertigo SK cross killed night 1 with mighty visiting PGO, or Articoo Mafia PGO killed mighty, and survivor is still alive but just has not claimed, and did not claim day 1 despite it being optimal for them, and that between Me/Sky/OM/Quo, all of us who are experienced forum players someone is survivor and not Vertigo, who is used to GI chat mafia survivor where emphasis on survivor is non existent and is usually treated like a VT in game, and is a forum newbie, and is someone who did not respond to thread after you called for survivor to claim, and is someone that is known for being among many people to not read the thread or Articoo who is also a forum newbie who is used to GI chat mafia survivor OVER the fact that OM, a very scummy slot, is just SK that killed me or litt N2 over Penguin, a consistent huge vote / scumread who's doc claim was disputed very hard and still garnered votes, a sentiment that at least one scum faction held Revised last section anyways A. How? He is scum but how is he confirmed? B. Your conclusion is based entirely upon the assumption that OM has to be SK. C. Why? An SK slot could have attempted to kill the Peng slot again, thinking they were Roleblocked N2. D. eye think eye have solved the docs already E. How? He is scum but how is he confirmed? F. Yes. Just like how you are absolutely tunneling OM right now G. Yes. H. No. I. Survivor claim is not actually undisputedly optimal D1. I was being slightly dishonest D1 to attempt to get them to claim because it would be advantageous for town. A case can be made that Surv should not claim in the hopes that PGO gambits and claims Surv to lure in Tourists. Vertigo "did not respond to thread after you called for survivor to claim" is a lie. Penguin was not a huge vote you are spinning your own narratives now. Only Kaif and I were voting him D3. J. Yes. |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 13:02:42 GMT
I think OM flips cultrod.
Unvote Penguin
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 13:03:24 GMT
gm flood
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 13:04:18 GMT
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 13:05:23 GMT
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 13:06:49 GMT
om -> sky -> peng should lead into an interesting endgame.
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 13:35:31 GMT
A. In this narrative OM would still be confirmed scum B. This is reaching for an alternate conclusion to the OM killed Me or Litt N2 narrative (it was most likely me if we are being real which would confirm penguino ) C. This narrative does not account for D3 because D3 is incredibly inconsistent with this narrative D. This is trying to avoid solving our Docs by presenting it as a solution to us making sense of N2 which also "fits in with these docs claim" when in reality this narrative hinges on the fact that you first prove why Peng is mafia over Alex E. This might have been just a joke or something but if you truly believed in this you would have also shifted to OM since he would still be confirmed scum in this narrative, instead it reads as if you are trying to case penguin so desperately and that you are trying to get votes off OM considering that you don't vote OM yourself F. You are absolutely tunneling Penguin right now G. You are willfully ignoring the fact that Alex also did not doc the clear, (granted he didn't know ddlc was clear N2). But Alex had also known 2 clears N3, are we expected to believe he docced a doc that was receiving votes, and may have been a fake claim, over 2 clears, and all the while did not check the rolelist once? H. Yes you did move discussion to a better place but you also are still deflecting from the last convo to post this nonsense I. You still think Articoo Mafia OS PGO and Vertigo SK cross killed night 1 with mighty visiting PGO, or Articoo Mafia PGO killed mighty, and survivor is still alive but just has not claimed, and did not claim day 1 despite it being optimal for them, and that between Me/Sky/OM/Quo, all of us who are experienced forum players someone is survivor and not Vertigo, who is used to GI chat mafia survivor where emphasis on survivor is non existent and is usually treated like a VT in game, and is a forum newbie, and is someone who did not respond to thread after you called for survivor to claim, and is someone that is known for being among many people to not read the thread or Articoo who is also a forum newbie who is used to GI chat mafia survivor OVER the fact that OM, a very scummy slot, is just SK that killed me or litt N2 over Penguin, a consistent huge vote / scumread who's doc claim was disputed very hard and still garnered votes, a sentiment that at least one scum faction held Revised last section anyways A. How? He is scum but how is he confirmed? B. Your conclusion is based entirely upon the assumption that OM has to be SK. C. Why? An SK slot could have attempted to kill the Peng slot again, thinking they were Roleblocked N2. D. eye think eye have solved the docs already E. How? He is scum but how is he confirmed? F. Yes. Just like how you are absolutely tunneling OM right now G. Yes. H. No. I. Survivor claim is not actually undisputedly optimal D1. I was being slightly dishonest D1 to attempt to get them to claim because it would be advantageous for town. A case can be made that Surv should not claim in the hopes that PGO gambits and claims Surv to lure in Tourists. Vertigo "did not respond to thread after you called for survivor to claim" is a lie. Penguin was not a huge vote you are spinning your own narratives now. Only Kaif and I were voting him D3. J. Yes. A. The docs were on Schia and Penguin, and Schia is confirmed the strongman kill, If SK was theoretically alive the only way their kill would have been blocked would be through a roleblock, so if we assume SK is alive, OM is confirmed SK B: Yes if SK is alive then it must be OM because of tonight since the only way SK kill did not happen is through roleblock C: Schia very openly admitted to being role blocked N2 right next to his claim, read my other post about how OM treated penguin yday D: This was me calling out how you were deflecting and trying push a false doc solve that wasn't actually a solve, and you are deflecting again E: Refer to A F: I am not tunneling OM, I haven't been reaching at all, there is so much scummy behavior from the slot in general, their is a much lower chance of sk dying n1, vertigo was most likely survivor, stop trying flip this onto me, no one has said a word disputing most of what I say, besides for you which is only in I, which I will get to. G: Let's openly admit scummy behavior H: Yes, you are since you still want to put on your tinfoil hate theory that sk died N1 I: If scum claims/cc's survivor they are throwing, this case is bad because survivor would realistically CC and no one would target either, as such the mafia would just be inting. And precautions could be played around in that case, such as agreeing not to target the survivor if that was the case if survivor does not cc. Wrt vertigo it does not change the fact that vertigo barely read thread and again is used to survivor from GI Chat mafia, which are pretty big points. Wrt penguin, That is not relevant to the overall point that looking at eod of N2 it is not unreasonable to assume that both mafia and sk did not target penguin, and yes penguin was a huge vote D1 and D2, and that is also pretty big for a doc claim, I am not spinning my own narrative, penguin has been a focus of attention all game, and has been a main wagon almost every day. J: Unrealistic, I don't know what bullshit you are on |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 13:36:45 GMT
I think OM flips cultrod. Unvote Penguin*cries in being stuck in your own head* |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 13:44:08 GMT
Still wondering who survivor is in theaph's imaginary world between me/quo/sky
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 13:45:15 GMT
om -> sky -> peng should lead into an interesting endgame. So you think quo fake claimed their targets? |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 13:46:40 GMT
How much can one man reach because they can not stop wanting to establish the fact that penguin is mafia, I wonder what the implications for one person wanting to that so bad are.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jul 29, 2021 14:03:33 GMT
man dont tell me spiderz is scum :/
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Post by Alexander489 on Jul 29, 2021 14:04:19 GMT
idt spiderz would try to the push the narrative of me being scum or even sk if he was town. he knows i havent been paying that much attention to game so its p clear the macho thing slipped my mind. i did read the rolelist but yknow, time passes. you live and you learn.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jul 29, 2021 14:05:24 GMT
also spiderz i know penguin was recieving votes, i was very anti penguin vote wasnt i? i was pretty vocal about that.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jul 29, 2021 14:06:33 GMT
also would like to know in what world spiderz thinks i cc doc as sk or even scum, when i was the last to claim
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Post by Alexander489 on Jul 29, 2021 14:09:09 GMT
especially thinking i would cc as scum and slip like i did with my night actions.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 14:27:42 GMT
A. How? He is scum but how is he confirmed? B. Your conclusion is based entirely upon the assumption that OM has to be SK. C. Why? An SK slot could have attempted to kill the Peng slot again, thinking they were Roleblocked N2. D. eye think eye have solved the docs already E. How? He is scum but how is he confirmed? F. Yes. Just like how you are absolutely tunneling OM right now G. Yes. H. No. I. Survivor claim is not actually undisputedly optimal D1. I was being slightly dishonest D1 to attempt to get them to claim because it would be advantageous for town. A case can be made that Surv should not claim in the hopes that PGO gambits and claims Surv to lure in Tourists. Vertigo "did not respond to thread after you called for survivor to claim" is a lie. Penguin was not a huge vote you are spinning your own narratives now. Only Kaif and I were voting him D3. J. Yes. A. The docs were on Schia and Penguin, and Schia is confirmed the strongman kill, If SK was theoretically alive the only way their kill would have been blocked would be through a roleblock, so if we assume SK is alive, OM is confirmed SK B: Yes if SK is alive then it must be OM because of tonight since the only way SK kill did not happen is through roleblock C: Schia very openly admitted to being role blocked N2 right next to his claim, read my other post about how OM treated penguin yday D: This was me calling out how you were deflecting and trying push a false doc solve that wasn't actually a solve, and you are deflecting again E: Refer to A F: I am not tunneling OM, I haven't been reaching at all, there is so much scummy behavior from the slot in general, their is a much lower chance of sk dying n1, vertigo was most likely survivor, stop trying flip this onto me, no one has said a word disputing most of what I say, besides for you which is only in I, which I will get to. G: Let's openly admit scummy behavior H: Yes, you are since you still want to put on your tinfoil hate theory that sk died N1 I: If scum claims/cc's survivor they are throwing, this case is bad because survivor would realistically CC and no one would target either, as such the mafia would just be inting. And precautions could be played around in that case, such as agreeing not to target the survivor if that was the case if survivor does not cc. Wrt vertigo it does not change the fact that vertigo barely read thread and again is used to survivor from GI Chat mafia, which are pretty big points. Wrt penguin, That is not relevant to the overall point that looking at eod of N2 it is not unreasonable to assume that both mafia and sk did not target penguin, and yes penguin was a huge vote D1 and D2, and that is also pretty big for a doc claim, I am not spinning my own narrative, penguin has been a focus of attention all game, and has been a main wagon almost every day. J: Unrealistic, I don't know what bullshit you are on A. SK is not confirmed to be alive. SK kill can be negated if they targetted maf!peng. B. See A C. They claimed being blocked N1 and/or N2. Not specifically N2. D. eye think it is solved E. See B F. Calling OM confirmed is definitely a reach when they are not confirmed mechanically in any way. Vertigo was sk G. OK H. Calling it tinfoil hat does not make it tinfoil hat. I. If non-survivor claims Survivor first, both are probably going to be voted/killed eventually, for insurance. So real Surv can't even cc their role in a scenario where Maf PGO fakeclaims Surv, not to mention that Surv benefits from PGO going off on Tourists. This is why Surv claim D1 does not actually work and would actually be a good vote. I think Vertigo was aware that this setup is not GI, so I am not sure why you keep insisting that he was playing like it was. J. How? K. Yes |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 14:30:10 GMT
Still wondering who survivor is in theaph's imaginary world between me/quo/sky I would have said quo earlier but you are kind of convincing me you are Mafia which would mean Sky would be Surv. |
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