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Post by litteleven on Jul 19, 2021 19:34:34 GMT
just want you to know i didn't read this and i don't plan on reading this, i think you specifically should stop talking about votes and start talking about players and i think the quicker you go about doing this the the better so you want me to insist that the d1 filler that is floating around is what we should focus on? :# wagons are the easiest way of read generation rn i can't make reads out of "bad post" wrt this like i like your desire to create deep reads from shallow sources but, reality check, a wagon made 2 hours into the day shouldn't be analyzed like a eod wagon in the same way i would appreciate it a ton more if you did this 24 hours later !_! |
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Post by Kaif on Jul 19, 2021 19:35:11 GMT
oh btw articunight is negative utility, idk if scum or town yet. Down to policy.
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Post by micromorphic on Jul 19, 2021 19:35:32 GMT
Did you just read the last 4 words of that sentence? the last 4 words are about gary, the part i was talking about concerns Vet. It still doesn't explain how you are townreading Vet based on their activity (and why) I’m referring to the last 4 words to the sentence you bolded, and I’m not townreading vet solely based on their activity. Vet provided an idea to us as an approach for us to know who goes where at night so we can use it for info. It’s an input that had pro-town thought out into it, which I townread. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 19, 2021 19:35:33 GMT
actually think i will catch up on old stuff a bit later cause live chat seems more enticing phenomenal post |
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Post by Kaif on Jul 19, 2021 19:35:47 GMT
I also want to sleep as it is 1:35 AM but if anyone has anything for me before that I will make a few more posts.
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Post by articunight on Jul 19, 2021 19:36:30 GMT
so you want me to insist that the d1 filler that is floating around is what we should focus on? :# wagons are the easiest way of read generation rn i can't make reads out of "bad post" wrt this like i like your desire to create deep reads from shallow sources but, reality check, a wagon made 2 hours into the day shouldn't be analyzed like a eod wagon in the same way i would appreciate it a ton more if you did this 24 hours later !_! i mean i get that but effectively every read is gut feeling or rvs, if i justify my gut feeling/rvs with wagons(as weak of a supporter as it is) isn't it still better? Flawed arguement>no arguement |
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Post by Kaif on Jul 19, 2021 19:36:31 GMT
uhh whatever vertigo and micromorphic are saying doesnt make any sense to me
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Post by Kaif on Jul 19, 2021 19:37:01 GMT
wrt this like i like your desire to create deep reads from shallow sources but, reality check, a wagon made 2 hours into the day shouldn't be analyzed like a eod wagon in the same way i would appreciate it a ton more if you did this 24 hours later !_! i mean i get that but effectively every read is gut feeling or rvs, if i justify my gut feeling/rvs with wagons(as weak of a supporter as it is) isn't it still better? Flawed arguement>no arguementDo u want to get voted |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 19, 2021 19:37:19 GMT
i don't have intuition please enlighten me do you really want to go barking up this particular tree do you really want to go beating this particular horse do you really want to die on this particular hill do you really want to pick this particular battle do you really? |
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Post by litteleven on Jul 19, 2021 19:37:41 GMT
enlighten me and i'll sheep you throughout the game ok so its the start of the game and you're mafia. You look at the player list and you want to fit in with the big boys like Schiavetto, Spiderz and Alexander489. You see Schiavetto post 10 one liners in a row and you go "here is my opportunity to fit in with schiavetto". You proceed to say "Thank you schia for the kind words" expecting nobody to notice. But I see everything. why don't you see it as reasonable gamestart filler? if you're implying he wanted to pocket schia from the get go how is a single post proof of that? |
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Post by articunight on Jul 19, 2021 19:37:48 GMT
i mean i get that but effectively every read is gut feeling or rvs, if i justify my gut feeling/rvs with wagons(as weak of a supporter as it is) isn't it still better? Flawed arguement>no arguementDo u want to get voted can you justify the vote :^ |
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Post by Kaif on Jul 19, 2021 19:37:48 GMT
i don't have intuition please enlighten me do you really want to go barking up this particular tree do you really want to go beating this particular horse do you really want to die on this particular hill do you really want to pick this particular battle do you really? bars on bars on bars |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 19, 2021 19:38:16 GMT
4/5 times I will sheep this. Why not 5/5 man I would be too predictable if I did that. |
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Post by litteleven on Jul 19, 2021 19:38:44 GMT
wrt this like i like your desire to create deep reads from shallow sources but, reality check, a wagon made 2 hours into the day shouldn't be analyzed like a eod wagon in the same way i would appreciate it a ton more if you did this 24 hours later !_! i mean i get that but effectively every read is gut feeling or rvs, if i justify my gut feeling/rvs with wagons(as weak of a supporter as it is) isn't it still better? Flawed arguement>no arguementjust engage in chat fam |
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Post by Kaif on Jul 19, 2021 19:40:08 GMT
ok so its the start of the game and you're mafia. You look at the player list and you want to fit in with the big boys like Schiavetto, Spiderz and Alexander489. You see Schiavetto post 10 one liners in a row and you go "here is my opportunity to fit in with schiavetto". You proceed to say "Thank you schia for the kind words" expecting nobody to notice. But I see everything. why don't you see it as reasonable gamestart filler? if you're implying he wanted to pocket schia from the get go how is a single post proof of that? "Gamestart filler" is actually quite productive. I think that if I ignore these posts that are calling out to my intuition then I will have nothing to work with all day and rely on eod cfds to form my reads. It is also my intuition that says the post is a proof of that |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 19, 2021 19:40:08 GMT
quo and padge in terms of game for now in reality, all of us bad post this is a good post because gary's post is bad gary's post is bad because he answers the question in relation to the time of his posting, rather than at the time of his initial comment that "y'all think too much" gary's post is also bad because he tries to end on a meme after doing so gary should spend less time trying to look like he doesn't care and more time either earnestly caring or earnestly not caring but we don't have time for this halfway shit nosireebob no we don't |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 19, 2021 19:41:37 GMT
just want you to know i didn't read this and i don't plan on reading this, i think you specifically should stop talking about votes and start talking about players and i think the quicker you go about doing this the the better so you want me to insist that the d1 filler that is floating around is what we should focus on? :# wagons are the easiest way of read generation rn i can't make reads out of "bad post" bad post |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 19, 2021 19:42:12 GMT
Ya sure, Vet seems to be thinking abt the setup & options available with roles (hypoing) while also being active. Even tho he had the three random townreads and then plurshift(?, doesn’t actually work cause 4-3 on Litt if art counted correctly) onto derz, he still seems town compared to others so far into the game. Gary on the other hand has not been as active as Vet and the stuff he has said doesn’t rlly bring anything to read him on or to see what his thoughts r. Tho, I don’t really understand how posting alot = thinking too much or if we shouldn’t be thinking at all, whichever he meant, is something worth pointing out at all this is a post i've thought about this long and hard and i think it's worth asking micromorphic if he thinks activity is alignment indicative or is it specifically what players choose to do with their activity that makes it alignment indicative, and if that's the case micromorphic do you think it's also alignment indicative what players do not do with their activity, either through direct refusal or through negligence? |
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Post by quojova on Jul 19, 2021 19:43:09 GMT
I've never felt any drive from vp as scum and the hypo enthusiasm is actually a lot more reminiscent of him chilling as town in the discord pr chat than any scumgame I've seen of his
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 19, 2021 19:43:24 GMT
oh yea litt scorr quojova town for rest of game this is a good kaif post but it's a bad post from anyone else so i'm glad that it's a post kaif is making |
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Post by quojova on Jul 19, 2021 19:44:01 GMT
holy this game is active
I can play some live
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 19, 2021 19:45:45 GMT
where i stand atm on the vet post about rolemetaing is that it's a bit late to be seen as "a way to develop the gamestate" and more of "something i can say to contribute" so i would like look the opposite dir instead of seeing him as town wrt the micro post this would be a good post if you acknowledged that you are standing on the shoulders of giants but you have failed to give credit where credit is due and so unfortunately litt unfortunately my good brother unfortunately litt you have made me sad |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 19, 2021 19:46:39 GMT
Even that is a generous reading, though, because people were making reads by page 2 - varying degrees of substance behind them, but the content was There, so again it's like... what is the point of that observation. I think it felt slow to me because there were posts and votes being made on a abundant level but none of it felt meaningful it popped into my mind pretty prominently so I said it  decent post i guess |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 19, 2021 19:46:51 GMT
Yeah uh PSA: D1 Role speculation in any fashion is much more helpful to scum than it is to town and wastes towns time because you are literally solving 0 slots What should the town be doing with such precious time? Solving slots Why does vet seem town though??? you pointed out things that are inherently scummy given the context, they are all pointing towards the fact that he is faking productivity in bad faith, also I think that you are mistaken on why Gary said what he said because I think that he thinks his posts are being over analyzed which is a whole other ball park but do you really have no thoughts on that?? What makes you think that Padgett is acting in bad faith? If you think Padgett is acting in bad faith, does that imply that you think they are not town? If so, why haven't you voted them? I think my bigger post talked about how his townreads on quo and litt were in bad faith, also the reason I have not voted Vet is the same reason I didn't directly chime in between vets and schias convo, Schia was pushing certain things and I wanted to explore different options because it wasn't really gonna be helpful if I went gung ho at the same time as schia and asked the same questions but yes Vet is defo a scumread for me atm |
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Post by litteleven on Jul 19, 2021 19:47:24 GMT
why don't you see it as reasonable gamestart filler? if you're implying he wanted to pocket schia from the get go how is a single post proof of that? "Gamestart filler" is actually quite productive. I think that if I ignore these posts that are calling out to my intuition then I will have nothing to work with all day and rely on eod cfds to form my reads. It is also my intuition that says the post is a proof of that no that's fair but the accusation doesn't sell in my head so i'm just confused cause usually people bring up very hard relevant posts to justify stuff, and vote gut reads because gut but they keep it differentiated like atm i somewhat do believe you believe what you're saying but i don't believe what you're saying is right so you'd have to sell it like better and i don't see how you do that from my pov atm |
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