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Post by quojova on Apr 18, 2022 20:05:20 GMT
I think this is scum ddlc is there any reason why you're voting scep and not ddlc? early on I don't really feel a strong desire to have my vote always match my top scumread bc it's just a linear way to play and your vote can do cooler things elsewhere but atp this vote isnt really carrying any weight unvote scept
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Post by OM~! on Apr 18, 2022 20:05:54 GMT
Dactyl gives no energy whatsoever vote dkkoba
What about my posts feel solvy for you? They've mostly been min effort thoughts bc I've been busy this phase, ngl.
I already quoted it you doof.
Dactyl is town too.
Yeah I saw that Idk I think on closer inspection it feels more like a pocket than anything bc I'm not sure where you're getting your reads from
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Post by Schrodinger on Apr 18, 2022 20:06:52 GMT
Kind of a scum post from sky making mighty do all the work lol. Skys iso is kinda scummy to me? Seems like he made the 3 posts i would make as scum and no i will not elaborate. Theres not much to go off tho While I dont agree with the way ddlc is approaching their read - I find it made in a towny way, meaning it feels genuine + the caginess I find towny as well, with the "I will not ellaborate". Kind of a high energy type of blow to kick things off. yea this is actually pretty interesting on second thought on one hand and what i thought initially was that ddlc should know on what exactly to analyse, all skyposts had been fluff at that point and it rubbed me off the wrong way like he was trying to fake analysis on those because he knows he can make a good narrative with whatever he posts on these but now it feels like he was just trying to extract something out of sky more than actually analyse him which is townie for now im putting off his slot till he comes back, but im def coming around on that more
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Post by Schrodinger on Apr 18, 2022 20:08:37 GMT
why is dact a town slot i do not see it at all
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Post by Schrodinger on Apr 18, 2022 20:11:59 GMT
yo im down actually vote dkkoba
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Post by Schrodinger on Apr 18, 2022 20:12:24 GMT
see you all in 6 hours or more gn
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Post by dkkoba on Apr 18, 2022 20:12:34 GMT
I already quoted it you doof.
Dactyl is town too.
Yeah I saw that Idk I think on closer inspection it feels more like a pocket than anything bc I'm not sure where you're getting your reads from I'm just very good when I have meta, like I mentioned. I can link you some games where I get similar early reads.
I already created a 3 person PoE. You'll find it easier to try to work with someone rather than immediately suspect them for townreading you.
If I'm scum - my only experience with you was you as scum immediately pushing me out of the game, so I'm not sure why I would try to continue townreading you here as scum in your mind.
How do you feel about Quojova?
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Post by dkkoba on Apr 18, 2022 20:13:23 GMT
yo im down actually vote dkkobawhy?
Do you think Dactyl is my scum partner? Do you think I am TMIing?
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Post by quojova on Apr 18, 2022 20:13:28 GMT
I think associating caginess with ddlc towniness has held up very poorly in past games in general the way he plays is very unabashed, although I actually think moreso in scum games this post in particular idm that much from ddlc though because it displays an at least slightly inquisitive tone (although the actual content is not particularly inquisitive) which I associate a bit with town ddlc Gonna be honest I've spent like a while reading this post and I'm not sure what you're trying to get at in the latter half What separates ddlc's scum game from town game for you?? didn't word this very cleanly in that post but the thing I've picked up most about ddlc is that when he is scum he seems like he has all the answers that comes out when he tries very hard to defend everything he says as scum really hard and makes very definite statements when as town he ponders (and is inquisitive) a bit more imo those two things (defending his prior statements really hard and making statements without being inquisitive) were what lead me to say I thought it was scum ddlc (and I still think is scum ddlc) that earlier post that dkkoba quoted I think is kind of a nice look for him tonally because he's asking questions and being uncertain but it's essentially a rhetorical question so it doesn't move me all that much on ddlc being town
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Post by quojova on Apr 18, 2022 20:13:43 GMT
vote ddlc btw
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Post by dkkoba on Apr 18, 2022 20:14:28 GMT
Same with quo tho cuz quo isnt funny so like why is he trying? kinda sus ngl this is a good point, quojova is sort of fillering there (well ig it's day 1 so that makes sense) but specifically in a way that's slightly encouraging conflict between others without dirtying their hands also ddlc is playing the game, which is townie unvote mighty cannonlike come on, posts like these are transparently towny to me -> I feel like the meta on this site is to be overtly suspicious of people showing 3 dimensional thought for whatever reason and I kinda detest that.
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Post by quojova on Apr 18, 2022 20:14:55 GMT
Gonna be honest I've spent like a while reading this post and I'm not sure what you're trying to get at in the latter half What separates ddlc's scum game from town game for you?? didn't word this very cleanly in that post but the thing I've picked up most about ddlc is that when he is scum he seems like he has all the answers that comes out when he tries very hard to defend everything he says as scum really hard and makes very definite statements when as town he ponders (and is inquisitive) a bit more imo those two things (defending his prior statements really hard and making statements without being inquisitive) were what lead me to say I thought it was scum ddlc (and I still think is scum ddlc) that earlier post that dkkoba quoted I think is kind of a nice look for him tonally because he's asking questions and being uncertain but it's essentially a rhetorical question so it doesn't move me all that much on ddlc being town epic wording by me, very hard and really hard used in the same clause if I noticed I would have edited it but obviously would also make me scum as mightycannon knows
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Post by quojova on Apr 18, 2022 20:15:36 GMT
this is a good point, quojova is sort of fillering there (well ig it's day 1 so that makes sense) but specifically in a way that's slightly encouraging conflict between others without dirtying their hands also ddlc is playing the game, which is townie unvote mighty cannonlike come on, posts like these are transparently towny to me -> I feel like the meta on this site is to be overtly suspicious of people showing 3 dimensional thought for whatever reason and I kinda detest that. what makes you think that moreso the overtly suspicious of 3 dimensional thought part
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Post by dkkoba on Apr 18, 2022 20:20:25 GMT
I think the 2 votes on me are from people who are seeing me post with confidence and assume that it has to be a scum who is trying to "manipulate the game"
it is a common hurdle I reach in games with players who are significantly less experienced than myself in forum play.
What makes you think DDLC is an informed party trying to push an agenda as opposed to a townie who is pushing the game forward?
I do see the DDLC TMI argument though - ATP I think there is potentially 1 scum between you/DDLC and never both so there's that.
Maybe I'm getting tunneled ya
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Post by dkkoba on Apr 18, 2022 20:21:15 GMT
Can I trust this playerlist to eliminate you if you've been pushing townies and stay alive for too long, quojova? or do I need to 100% solve you d1
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Post by dkkoba on Apr 18, 2022 20:23:41 GMT
Unvote:
I reread the game again, the quojova push feeling a bit silly now.
Vote:DDLC
e-2
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Post by dkkoba on Apr 18, 2022 20:26:28 GMT
mightycannon Dactyl7 OM~! quojova= Schrodinger ZestOfLife skyfigueroa ddlcfan69
realized after putting my reads in an ordered list this is how it ends up.
zest/sky are extremely volitile and can move anywhere based on future content, consider them the "null" area, sky slightly nullscum.
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Post by quojova on Apr 18, 2022 20:27:02 GMT
I think the 2 votes on me are from people who are seeing me post with confidence and assume that it has to be a scum who is trying to "manipulate the game" it is a common hurdle I reach in games with players who are significantly less experienced than myself in forum play. What makes you think DDLC is an informed party trying to push an agenda as opposed to a townie who is pushing the game forward? I do see the DDLC TMI argument though - ATP I think there is potentially 1 scum between you/DDLC and never both so there's that. Maybe I'm getting tunneled ya idt its confidence per se that is causing scept and om to vote you, moreso confidence without a clear way to verbalize it and show your train of thought, particularly on dact/om slots its pretty tricky to put your thoughts into words convincingly but I think if you tried to do that more it would resolve those votes and also progress the game meaningfully on ddlc its mostly the confidence thing altho im still thinking on that
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Post by quojova on Apr 18, 2022 20:28:30 GMT
Can I trust this playerlist to eliminate you if you've been pushing townies and stay alive for too long, quojova? :P or do I need to 100% solve you d1 to be real with you on ps forums I tend to get carried by my activity and never hanged so you prob can't count on that LOL
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Post by quojova on Apr 18, 2022 20:30:08 GMT
Unvote:I reread the game again, the quojova push feeling a bit silly now. Vote:DDLC e-2 wat
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Post by dkkoba on Apr 18, 2022 20:31:33 GMT
I tend to bluff my reads(in the sense I don't show how weak they are) a little early game in a way more often than not, I express strength in the same way but the reads are malleable still because its early game. I do genuinely have reasons for the read in the direction they are regardless and I have explained all my reads thus far I feel so
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Post by quojova on Apr 18, 2022 20:32:43 GMT
yea zol is the default hang and not terrible bc I do think he has some history of lurking as scum? although the players that predate me on this site would know more about that
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Post by dkkoba on Apr 18, 2022 20:32:44 GMT
Unvote:I reread the game again, the quojova push feeling a bit silly now. Vote:DDLC e-2 wat
I'm seeing the TMI thing, if you noticed it was a slight gut thing that also pinged me upon entering the game when my first post was to ask DDLC to explain the 2 townreads they threw out that were confident.
Later FOSed you, thought you and DDLC were unaligned - so it slipped my mind. Now we're back on it
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Post by dkkoba on Apr 18, 2022 20:33:53 GMT
If they are lurky as scum then I can perhaps Vote: ZestofLife and require 5 game advancing posts from them before I will even consider unvoting >
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Post by Dactyl7 on Apr 19, 2022 0:38:55 GMT
Can I trust this playerlist to eliminate you if you've been pushing townies and stay alive for too long, quojova? or do I need to 100% solve you d1 to be real with you on ps forums I tend to get carried by my activity and never hanged so you prob can't count on that LOL I've been reading over the game for a while now and this line strikes me the wrong way. Speaking from the perspective of "oh even if I'm scum I won't get voted bc of activity" doesn't seem to me like something town would ever feel the need to point out.
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