Sylveon & Rando
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Post by Sylveon & Rando on Jul 4, 2022 4:36:44 GMT
Pac is either scum or badtown, and I'm betting on scum. To use snapa's scoring system, Pac n cheese is a 1 at best, and a -4 at worst.
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Post by ohsnapa on Jul 4, 2022 5:29:32 GMT
yo people are using my scoring system holy fuck
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Post by ohsnapa on Jul 4, 2022 6:09:46 GMT
it's kinda fucking, like, it's kinda fuckng hard to pick up where i left off, like, idk man it just feels kinda weird i thought we'd have someone dead by now but this shit lasts for another like, 12 hours or some shit
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Post by cyan on Jul 4, 2022 7:05:03 GMT
Btw why is there a wagon on me rn? Pac has been acting more suspicious, and yet he has only one vote! Meanwhile, all I did is make a couple of reads that people don't like and I have four votes? while the rest of the PL gets to reiterate their reads in response to this i'm like REALLY not a fan of you trying to summarize the wagon on you as "i made a couple of reads that people don't like" you're basically sidestepping all of the jazz about your awkward tone, the lack of depth behind your early double-read, and more recently, your vote on ohsnapa that has since shifted onto a wagon on pac n cheese. i'm not approaching this game by looking for optimal moves. i'm approaching this game by looking for player motives. voting sylv was part of my pressure game, and while it did not give me any info from sylv, it does give me some insight about you (i.e. that you're either sylveon's partner or both of you are town). ftr the level of depth behind zach's posts show intent to solve, but that one interaction with sylv just rubs me off as wrong they're also a primary wagon so we've got a lot of time to work with things before i make any final decisions<abbr> I get how that interaction can be interpreted poorly. Hopefully my other response kinda clear that up. I respect voting sylv as a means of pressure. Players like this crack under pressure, and I think they've already started to do so a little bit. Since I'm unfamiliar to forum mafia, I didn't think that placing a vote on someone could be a means of pressure, only a means stating your intent to vote them out. I've admittedly been kinda confused as to why so many votes have gone around day 1, but after reading this, it makes more sense. I'll keep that in mind and try to be more aware of strategies that I've never seen before.</abbr><abbr> I also think there are two wagons right now. Sylv and pac, and we need to look into them more. I'm still waiting for pac to get to what I said about them.</abbr> placing a vote on someone is absolutely pressure if they're a solo focal wagon, i show intent to disengage, and i make wallposts attacking sylveon alongside the vote. my stance still stands; sylveon is (as erry mentioned before) playing poorly in a way that doesn't match the intentions of either alignment. speaking of which, you should offer your own reads. if you had to vote on a whim, who would you pick out of sylv and pac and why? Pac n cheese is sus: Part Two (Electric Boogaloo) Cop on cyan, body on cyan and rb on syvl imo, The safest thing will be to assume that mafia rb will be acting alone contradicting the mafia goons. "Maf RB's target will contradict the kill!" No shit, Sherlock. Scum wouldn't want to RB the person getting killed, because, well, they're getting killed. Also, both cop and bodyguard on cyan?! What?!?! Most of the time, you don't want to protect the person who you sr, because, well, you think they're scum. And scum should not, can not, and will not kill themselves. Besides, I thought you said that everyone in the first 7 people to talk group was town in your eyes? Unless you think that cyan is the "one scum in our group if there is any". Will be best if we did this with a consensus and unless d2 or future days the cop doesn't claim and call someone for being scum, We will assume that person we demanded got cleared as a townie. Body on that said person to at least get some conf town players alive to act as a medium of trust for the days. Will help isolating the iso's and interactions from my perspective Okay, but maf can just try to kill them again, right? And if they're scum, then rest of maf will kill the cop claim. ---- More info about the Pac n cheese bandwagon. Let's make this an official wagon, guys! look mate if you want to get attention off of you you don't make it blatant as fuck. also, this is all pointing out disagreements towards pac's attempt at driving night actions to produce some form of optimal results. not flaws. not reads. not evidence. the only dimension of thought put into pac's night action suggestions appears to be "i don't know what cyan's alignment is so let's get cop and bg on them to be safe on both sides" and you're trying to portray all of it as scummy with the finesse of an overeating child in their first yoga class at most you've proven pac to be dumb. zach, among others, has made better cases on why pac might be scum. it's kinda fucking, like, it's kinda fuckng hard to pick up where i left off, like, idk man it just feels kinda weird i thought we'd have someone dead by now but this shit lasts for another like, 12 hours or some shit it's called burnout go take your mind off the game for a bit and come back when you're ready
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Post by cyan on Jul 4, 2022 7:06:41 GMT
so yeah i feel like the optimal move here (yes zach i'm sorry) is to vote one of sylv and pac and i think sylv is better equipped to explain/incriminate themselves in the future
UNVOTE: Sylveon & Rando VOTE: pacncheese
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Post by ohsnapa on Jul 4, 2022 8:19:53 GMT
aight so like, not rlly in the mood to do this shit rn, but i feel like
sylv is using a lot of appeal to emotion their lines use a lot of passive aggressive yet this kind of uhhhhhhh, fuck how do i describe it. it's like you want to give them pity because of how they're sounding, like, you can tell they're very nervous right now, their lines display out of place tones. this is noticeable in some cases
for example, - they put exclamation marks in places that probably shouldnt be there - for example, making comments about doing fish - commenting about how stressful forums is - and other shit like that
over all you would think these are really simple lines and shouldn't be looked into but the more you see more of these lines the more you'll realize that these lines are very very very off putting. like, it makes you ask why the fuck they exist, like, why are they saying these lines, i cant say they're filler because filler is less useful than these, if anything they're very weird reactions
it's one of those lines that you will give a null read about at first glance, but when you actually start reading them, it gives you this gut feeling that you're unable to describe them.
- they also make uhhhhhhhhh, fuck what's it called, they make lines that are out of character or out of place, you know? like
- i mean it's not really in character of sylveon to say shit like "oh let's go see blah blah blah" or some other shit
dude, i dont fucking know how to describe sylveon 100% analytically but
tldr; they're just very off putting, their lines are so out of place, but I know for a fact that Sylveon isn't calm. Sylveon is either nervous or panicky, they're not panicking, but they're panicky.
mmib is just, dude i dont know what to say about mmib honestly, but what I do know is that mmib is very consistent.
mmib knows that I tr them, which isn't normal, which he knows but despite this fact, they never change their tone even by a bit when continuing to speak. each line possesses the same aura and confidence, which is what a townie would do. Even if a scum member would be confident like a townie that would be very hard to pull off and would personally require tremendous skill.
right now i think mmib is just the towniest here, along with erry, but i havent kept up with reading erry
i know for a fact that some people are sussing out mmib for some reason, but this just proves my point even further despite mmib being thought suspiscious of, they still remain in their consistent posture.
there is one flaw about this explanation though, it's that mmib was inconsistent, but i only found one inconsistency
it was when they said they were going to sleep, came back and read my line about this whole fucking, like, ohsnapa's scale, or some shit, then kept using the scale as a means of displaying reads,
other than that i think they're fairly townie
i think my most interesting read in this segment: One of Zach and Shadow are scum / both are highly likely to not be aligned
Zach's first few lines are particularly aggressive. Not really aggressive, only particularly. This doesn't always indicate townie behavior. But in the case of Zach, it's simply different.
Zach's read on Pac caught my attention, not because of their read particularly, but by the tone and method of their reading. It's clear that Zach's approach to reading Pac was aggressive.
Personally, put simply, a scum member would not start their approach of D1 like Zach would do. (But I may be wrong, but I'm inclined to believe that Zach is towny here simply because of their tone and attacking style).
Personally, a scum member would start their day off by being calm and collected. This isn't always the case, but take a look at Shadow's lines.
On the side of shadoweavile, we see them approach D1 as calmly as possible, which is fine by town's standard, this doesn't necessarily mean that Shadow is scum.
But if we take a look at town's whole aura right now, it's fairly tense.
In conclusion, Shadow's the exact opposite of what Zach is, and this doesn't tell us that one of them is scum, but by looking at the whole interaction between all members of town, and with the aura of town, I can say that not only was Shadow's reads very lacking and lazily written, I can also conclude that they're very scummy in comparison to Zach.
But this could be applied in the reverse as well. Zach could be scum for having an aggressive starting approach to D1, while Shadow can be a town member having a calm approach to D1. If anything, I would want to see shadow and Zach play more, and see if they're both consistent with their tones and reads.
Overall: One of Zach and Shadow are scum. Leaning Shadow as scummy between them.
this read really feels like something i pulled out of my fucking ass but i really think shadow is scummy for their tones and overall aura when paired with town. They're not with the town when we look at it from a playing style approach.
zach is very much with town if we look at it from a playing style approach
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Post by pacncheese on Jul 4, 2022 9:20:54 GMT
there have been 7 people who have posted till now and given some sort of read, I feel like the best call would be to trust one another this 7 group: snapa, me, sylv, spore, cyan, memory, erry. All I can see in this is that they have either tr'ed or sr'ed each other ruling out the fact that this cannot contain a whole 4 mafia scum faction. With clearing others from this point on, we should assume us a town and pursue the other 9 group as a potential full or half of scum faction. With that we would be able to get a scum for sure and then we can align our reads according to their logs and get the scum in our group if there is one. Dude what? Saying this not only implies that there has been nothing of merit going on and that all discussion going on has been pointless, but that you REALLY wanna make allies with people instead of naturally doing so. There has, in fact been so much of substance going on that there can be reasonable reads made. For example, the way the cyan and snap discussion ended made it seem that they're of the same alignment (or at least they're reading each other as their own alignment). Despite going back and forth for a while, they came to the same conclusion and agreed about what they were disputing over. If they thought they weren't of the same alignment, whatever they were arguing over would still be going on now and be going nowhere. Trying to discourage that from happens seems, at the very least weird, and at the very most scummy. What was your thought process behind this?
(idk how to quote multiple things at a time so bear with me)
pacncheese Avatar Jul 3, 2022 0:36:38 GMT -4 pacncheese said: all I am proposing is that there is a chance that none of us are scum and this progresses into nothing but sprouting doubts b/w others, making the game difficult and lacking in trust
More of what are you even trying to say? Like huh???
Jul 3, 2022 0:39:29 GMT -4 pacncheese said: I feel like we ought to face the fact that none of the active ones yet have formed any kind alignment for a potential scum team or duo or w/e.
How can this even be a valid conclusion at this point in the game? so many people have been talking and disagreeing with each other and most importantly, YOU, and you haven't done anything to address it. I'm not susing you yet, I just want to know why you would say this and the other two posts?
Sorry if I'm wasting my time by focusing on what was ultimately supposed to be a poorly done attempt at filler.
//// If am being honest then I was excited, not saying that I am not still but at that point this was around early on like 4-5 pages filled with shitposting or figuring out the forums and me trying to construct something out of it, which I repeatedly failed to do, and assuming filler here means useless. I would admit that the topmost looking doesn't make the right sense because it does seem that I am discouraging reads. I thought of holding the larger share of potential town and use it to single out scums from the users who weren't active back then and their iso's to track others giving us better odds since more or less we would have held the deciding vote in hammer or w/e assuming we formed this alliance, especially since the none of us seemed to me as scum atm. I was thinking of the endgame of the scenario where 2 town vs a mafia is hoped there was no confusion in it for voting out mafia and well establishing some rules for the game
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Post by pacncheese on Jul 4, 2022 9:34:54 GMT
Yeh so guys My power just went out and idk when I will be back on, just letting you guys know so you can give me chance to explain if any reads get formed on me. Hey, quick question, if your power was out then how where you still sending messages, including this one, after the fact? Just something I was curious about The net was working cuz it is on UPS and my laptop could have lasted for 20 mins or something on its busted battery. What I feared mostly given the night actions and all was that we had monsoon rainfall prediction by the weather enough that it could cause an urban flooding idk and the ups runs for like 5-6 hours and my laptop can't last that long without the charger and it is the only thing I have access to for internet.
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Post by pacncheese on Jul 4, 2022 10:02:02 GMT
Pac n cheese is sus: Part Two (Electric Boogaloo) Cop on cyan, body on cyan and rb on syvl imo, The safest thing will be to assume that mafia rb will be acting alone contradicting the mafia goons. "Maf RB's target will contradict the kill!" No shit, Sherlock. Scum wouldn't want to RB the person getting killed, because, well, they're getting killed. Also, both cop and bodyguard on cyan?! What?!?! Most of the time, you don't want to protect the person who you sr, because, well, you think they're scum. And scum should not, can not, and will not kill themselves. Besides, I thought you said that everyone in the first 7 people to talk group was town in your eyes? Unless you think that cyan is the "one scum in our group if there is any". Will be best if we did this with a consensus and unless d2 or future days the cop doesn't claim and call someone for being scum, We will assume that person we demanded got cleared as a townie. Body on that said person to at least get some conf town players alive to act as a medium of trust for the days. Will help isolating the iso's and interactions from my perspective Okay, but maf can just try to kill them again, right? And if they're scum, then rest of maf will kill the cop claim. ---- More info about the Pac n cheese bandwagon. Let's make this an official wagon, guys! I meant that the mafia rb would be contradicting the mafia through out the game in day (chat) smh not just on the kill which is why I asked them to clear cyan, for me they are capable of suggesting this or being the mafia rb'er themselves. But that is again pmeta. They would avoid as many interaction with the rb'er person cuz it is literally their hugest asset, having em linked with any of the mafia goons would be dumb and if they can't rb cop or other pr's it would heavily impact their chances to win. As far as the night action talk goes, yes I should have revisited you raised a valid point which I overlooked though I would just like to bring "assume the townie we demanded got cleared as a townie" to light as a rule for town so we cannot demand cop claims d2 just to clear a townie or so and bring attention to potential cop. The latter on you saying they will get killed then let me rephrase it cop gets to know the exact role so we can cop someone till we get the mafia rb'er though getting a consensus on who has to be the one who gets copped or checked will help alot so we can keep track of who could have been or could have not been mafia goons. And if they try to kill em again a conf townie they are gonna waste a nk. You can extract whatever you want from this but yeh. Also if, hypothetically, I am a mafia then where are and who are my partners?
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Post by pacncheese on Jul 4, 2022 10:33:13 GMT
Also as for the ohsnapa shift I never pushed it or actively pursued it. I switched to nv cuz it seemed to me the best call since at that time I had no debatable cases on anyone other than pmeta and wanted to deal with it genuinely after the n1 results come and post my analysis based on that. But all the same I would explain why I hadn't given any reads too, when the game started 4 people were active when I saw the announcement ohsnapa, mib, sylv and spor, the rvs call by sylv, getting on me traversing through all the other 3 ACTIVE players in less than an hour or so made me doubt they were aligned with any of them and cyan and erry coming and cooling things down made em seem towny and atm my reads would have been nothing but pmeta and other is sus, like sylv was doing, so yeh nothing of contribution could have been formed off them so I thought the most help I could give atm was by proposing ideas or scenarios. Thought all the same ohsnapa gave up shitposting and seems genuinely contributed which makes em a tr for me, cyan giving off townleading vibes with his consistent aid and requesting others to form paragraphs etc (this contradicts with my above statement of cyan ik, but I wanna be sure they aren't pulling a 1000iq play they are smart as mafia), erry idk, MIM has been trying and sylv has been doing nothing but pursuing people as individuals and forming arguments based off their certain playstyle though that one line about shiftvoting despite they have deviated from it lol, makes me wanna tr em. I can't quite form reads on others I haven't seen em in ps so it is weird and new. The rest is that I am hesitant to post my reads on people cuz ik they impact alot for the X person in the read and might change the scenario of the game if they are scum or town and opposite to what I posted about them, so yeh trying to play safe.
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Post by pacncheese on Jul 4, 2022 10:41:58 GMT
That has spelling errors: contributing, Though all the same. Man that looks like a lame excuse sigh, tldr; will try to provide reads but idt I will be able to explain them to the fullest which is why I thought making a team is a good idea to back each other up.
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Post by chaostrodon on Jul 4, 2022 12:08:24 GMT
Also as for the ohsnapa shift I never pushed it or actively pursued it. I switched to nv cuz it seemed to me the best call since at that time I had no debatable cases on anyone other than pmeta and wanted to deal with it genuinely after the n1 results come and post my analysis based on that. But all the same I would explain why I hadn't given any reads too, when the game started 4 people were active when I saw the announcement ohsnapa, mib, sylv and spor, the rvs call by sylv, getting on me traversing through all the other 3 ACTIVE players in less than an hour or so made me doubt they were aligned with any of them and cyan and erry coming and cooling things down made em seem towny and atm my reads would have been nothing but pmeta and other is sus, like sylv was doing, so yeh nothing of contribution could have been formed off them so I thought the most help I could give atm was by proposing ideas or scenarios. Thought all the same ohsnapa gave up shitposting and seems genuinely contributed which makes em a tr for me, cyan giving off townleading vibes with his consistent aid and requesting others to form paragraphs etc (this contradicts with my above statement of cyan ik, but I wanna be sure they aren't pulling a 1000iq play they are smart as mafia), erry idk, MIM has been trying and sylv has been doing nothing but pursuing people as individuals and forming arguments based off their certain playstyle though that one line about shiftvoting despite they have deviated from it lol, makes me wanna tr em. I can't quite form reads on others I haven't seen em in ps so it is weird and new. The rest is that I am hesitant to post my reads on people cuz ik they impact alot for the X person in the read and might change the scenario of the game if they are scum or town and opposite to what I posted about them, so yeh trying to play safe. Pls align your posts with some spacing so its easier to read , this was hard to read
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Post by chaostrodon on Jul 4, 2022 12:23:47 GMT
Zach and cyan sound very similiar
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Post by chaostrodon on Jul 4, 2022 12:33:10 GMT
I dont think Ive ever seen such lapses in logic on forums before . I would recommend a good nights rest before your next post tbh. ftr means "for the record", pac is a zoomer and they say weird things like this 1. I'm actually gen z myself, and this is the first time I've seen something like that. 2. Day ends at 10:30pm and I have plur I think? So if I got a good night's sleep between posts I'd probably already be dead. 3. What are the lapses in logic? You need to explain so I know what you're talking about. This is my first forum game, just so you're aware. I dont think spore really meant that , and even if he did , why cant the first 3 people who talk be scum? Also no way does simply saying something improbable deserve a vote.
Secondly , just because someone trs you doesnt mean they should be voting with you , you are confusing tring and sheeping
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 4, 2022 13:27:19 GMT
Just woke up. Time to read!!! Zach and cyan sound very similiar Also care to elaborate?
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 4, 2022 14:15:36 GMT
Dude what? Saying this not only implies that there has been nothing of merit going on and that all discussion going on has been pointless, but that you REALLY wanna make allies with people instead of naturally doing so. There has, in fact been so much of substance going on that there can be reasonable reads made. For example, the way the cyan and snap discussion ended made it seem that they're of the same alignment (or at least they're reading each other as their own alignment). Despite going back and forth for a while, they came to the same conclusion and agreed about what they were disputing over. If they thought they weren't of the same alignment, whatever they were arguing over would still be going on now and be going nowhere. Trying to discourage that from happens seems, at the very least weird, and at the very most scummy. What was your thought process behind this?
(idk how to quote multiple things at a time so bear with me)
pacncheese Avatar Jul 3, 2022 0:36:38 GMT -4 pacncheese said: all I am proposing is that there is a chance that none of us are scum and this progresses into nothing but sprouting doubts b/w others, making the game difficult and lacking in trust
More of what are you even trying to say? Like huh???
Jul 3, 2022 0:39:29 GMT -4 pacncheese said: I feel like we ought to face the fact that none of the active ones yet have formed any kind alignment for a potential scum team or duo or w/e.
How can this even be a valid conclusion at this point in the game? so many people have been talking and disagreeing with each other and most importantly, YOU, and you haven't done anything to address it. I'm not susing you yet, I just want to know why you would say this and the other two posts?
Sorry if I'm wasting my time by focusing on what was ultimately supposed to be a poorly done attempt at filler.
//// If am being honest then I was excited, not saying that I am not still but at that point this was around early on like 4-5 pages filled with shitposting or figuring out the forums and me trying to construct something out of it, which I repeatedly failed to do, and assuming filler here means useless. I would admit that the topmost looking doesn't make the right sense because it does seem that I am discouraging reads. I thought of holding the larger share of potential town and use it to single out scums from the users who weren't active back then and their iso's to track others giving us better odds since more or less we would have held the deciding vote in hammer or w/e assuming we formed this alliance, especially since the none of us seemed to me as scum atm. I was thinking of the endgame of the scenario where 2 town vs a mafia is hoped there was no confusion in it for voting out mafia and well establishing some rules for the game
But why is that your go to thought process when you're mere hours into the game. I'm sorry, but I still think it's very suspicious that you jumped to trying to align yourself with people when that very much wasn't the vibe around town. Even if you failed to get anything out of the shitposting on the first 4-5 pages, that doesn't mean you have to post anything. You still chose to post something, and what you posted was dumb. I disagree that everyone that had posted thus far could be assumed town, and like I said, makes you look kinda scummy for trying to do so. Trying to take the first 7 people who have interacted in the game into a potential endgame (without much regard to the substance of what they were saying) is really, really desperate. Also, once again, why are you thinking of that specific endgame scenario mere hours into the game unless you're scum and wanna have the advantage in that scenario. Town wouldn't be worried with it unless they're being overly anxious.
Pac n cheese is sus: Part Two (Electric Boogaloo) "Maf RB's target will contradict the kill!" No shit, Sherlock. Scum wouldn't want to RB the person getting killed, because, well, they're getting killed. Also, both cop and bodyguard on cyan?! What?!?! Most of the time, you don't want to protect the person who you sr, because, well, you think they're scum. And scum should not, can not, and will not kill themselves. Besides, I thought you said that everyone in the first 7 people to talk group was town in your eyes? Unless you think that cyan is the "one scum in our group if there is any". Okay, but maf can just try to kill them again, right? And if they're scum, then rest of maf will kill the cop claim. ---- More info about the Pac n cheese bandwagon. Let's make this an official wagon, guys! I meant that the mafia rb would be contradicting the mafia through out the game in day (chat) smh not just on the kill which is why I asked them to clear cyan, for me they are capable of suggesting this or being the mafia rb'er themselves. But that is again pmeta. They would avoid as many interaction with the rb'er person cuz it is literally their hugest asset, having em linked with any of the mafia goons would be dumb and if they can't rb cop or other pr's it would heavily impact their chances to win. As far as the night action talk goes, yes I should have revisited you raised a valid point which I overlooked though I would just like to bring "assume the townie we demanded got cleared as a townie" to light as a rule for town so we cannot demand cop claims d2 just to clear a townie or so and bring attention to potential cop. The latter on you saying they will get killed then let me rephrase it cop gets to know the exact role so we can cop someone till we get the mafia rb'er though getting a consensus on who has to be the one who gets copped or checked will help alot so we can keep track of who could have been or could have not been mafia goons. And if they try to kill em again a conf townie they are gonna waste a nk. You can extract whatever you want from this but yeh. Also if, hypothetically, I am a mafia then where are and who are my partners? What's the obsession with roles at this point in the game. You're like the only person to talk about what roles should do at night. Why? Yes, they give valuable information, but the vibe in town right now is to go off of each other's reads instead of relying on the roles to give us information. Weird how you'd wanna change the vibe and topic of conversation to that unless you were scum trying to get town to do your dirty work for you. Once again, suspicious.
I'm gonna touch on that last sentence later. It's funny that you're proposing that cause it brings upon a very, very interesting hypothetical.
Also as for the ohsnapa shift I never pushed it or actively pursued it. I switched to nv cuz it seemed to me the best call since at that time I had no debatable cases on anyone other than pmeta and wanted to deal with it genuinely after the n1 results come and post my analysis based on that. But all the same I would explain why I hadn't given any reads too, when the game started 4 people were active when I saw the announcement ohsnapa, mib, sylv and spor, the rvs call by sylv, getting on me traversing through all the other 3 ACTIVE players in less than an hour or so made me doubt they were aligned with any of them and cyan and erry coming and cooling things down made em seem towny and atm my reads would have been nothing but pmeta and other is sus, like sylv was doing, so yeh nothing of contribution could have been formed off them so I thought the most help I could give atm was by proposing ideas or scenarios. Thought all the same ohsnapa gave up shitposting and seems genuinely contributed which makes em a tr for me, cyan giving off townleading vibes with his consistent aid and requesting others to form paragraphs etc (this contradicts with my above statement of cyan ik, but I wanna be sure they aren't pulling a 1000iq play they are smart as mafia), erry idk, MIM has been trying and sylv has been doing nothing but pursuing people as individuals and forming arguments based off their certain playstyle though that one line about shiftvoting despite they have deviated from it lol, makes me wanna tr em. I can't quite form reads on others I haven't seen em in ps so it is weird and new. The rest is that I am hesitant to post my reads on people cuz ik they impact alot for the X person in the read and might change the scenario of the game if they are scum or town and opposite to what I posted about them, so yeh trying to play safe. You're contradicting yourself here. It's more than just the cyan part too (which I could care less about). You just said that you couldn't discern anything from the first 4-5 pages of shitposting, yet here you're claiming that based on those same pages that sylv wasn't aligned with any of the other three people. Which is it?
"The rest is that I am hesitant to post my reads on people cuz ik they impact alot for the X person in the read and might change the scenario of the game if they are scum or town and opposite to what I posted about them, so yeh trying to play safe." What does that even mean? If you think you're reads could be so impactful, then why are you hesitant to say them? They could be the very thing that gets off of the hot seat, yet you seem complacent with not changing that reality. Weird
That has spelling errors: contributing, Though all the same. Man that looks like a lame excuse sigh, tldr; will try to provide reads but idt I will be able to explain them to the fullest which is why I thought making a team is a good idea to back each other up. Why don't you think you can explain them. You're on the hot seat, trying to explain yourself when you give reads or say other important things could really put you in a better light, especially when so little is known about some other players and there's another wagon to very easily jump on. No team would ever save you from having to try and stand up and explain yourself. Scummy
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 4, 2022 14:30:16 GMT
Also back to that line I said I would take about.
"Also if, hypothetically, I am a mafia then where are and who are my partners?"
Crazy scenario:
Assuming pac is mafia and we are to believe pac in their claim of the other first 6 people to post (snap, sylv, erry, cyan, spore, & mmib) are town, you trying to align yourself with them makes it clear of your strategy to win the game. You would know that the other 3 scum are people who hadn't yet posted, and you are trying to align yourself with town in order to pick them off one-by-one while simultaneously gaining town's trust, only to backstab them and win the game in the very endgame you were concerned about earlier.
The one problem with this hypothetical is that I don't believe we can assume all those 6 people are town. I'm still very sus of sylv as stated in my response to cyan earlier, and I think erry is aligned with sylv because of the way they defended sylv. I'd like to see more about what erry has to say since there have been lots of new developments, and what they've said thus far is quite impactful.
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Post by ohsnapa on Jul 4, 2022 14:35:48 GMT
hi zach
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Post by ohsnapa on Jul 4, 2022 14:35:58 GMT
zach is sussy baka
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Post by chaostrodon on Jul 4, 2022 14:36:50 GMT
Just woke up. Time to read!!! Zach and cyan sound very similiar Also care to elaborate? The aggression and attacking style looks similar , would be a stretch to pursue based on that , just making a note for myself later
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Post by chaostrodon on Jul 4, 2022 14:38:06 GMT
I had some posts selected and they all disappeared , that sucks Anyway let me see what I had in mind that one post of PacnCheese gave off bad vibes, Erry and Cyan are likely not in a team , and I rather liked Erry's take on Sylv vote pacncheeseohsnapa sounds like a nice guy These two post giving me scum vibes. Vote chaostrodonHere a Hot take of mine: pacncheese probably fits the Archetype of a typical town with unpopular opinions / prone to Mis-voting. What are your thoughts on it. Would recommend retuning your vibes indicator
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 4, 2022 14:39:46 GMT
placing a vote on someone is absolutely pressure if they're a solo focal wagon, i show intent to disengage, and i make wallposts attacking sylveon alongside the vote. my stance still stands; sylveon is (as erry mentioned before) playing poorly in a way that doesn't match the intentions of either alignment. speaking of which, you should offer your own reads. if you had to vote on a whim, who would you pick out of sylv and pac and why? You're right, I should. I've only provided leans and potential alignments thus far. I agree with your stance on sylv completely which resulted in my confusion before. If I were to see this right after you posted it, I would've voted sylv without any hesitation since I've come around on some of that confusion. Since then, however, pac has responded. so yeah i feel like the optimal move here (yes zach i'm sorry) is to vote one of sylv and pac and i think sylv is better equipped to explain/incriminate themselves in the future UNVOTE: Sylveon & Rando VOTE: pacncheeseWhy're you apologizing??? I agree that that is the optimal move. Probably just missing something. I was just holding out on voting until I got more information about pac that I was lacking at the time of my posting last night. vote pacncheese
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 4, 2022 14:40:48 GMT
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 4, 2022 14:41:36 GMT
Also back to that line I said I would take about. "Also if, hypothetically, I am a mafia then where are and who are my partners?" Crazy scenario: Assuming pac is mafia and we are to believe pac in their claim of the other first 6 people to post (snap, sylv, erry, cyan, spore, & mmib) are town, you trying to align yourself with them makes it clear of your strategy to win the game. You would know that the other 3 scum are people who hadn't yet posted, and you are trying to align yourself with town in order to pick them off one-by-one while simultaneously gaining town's trust, only to backstab them and win the game in the very endgame you were concerned about earlier. The one problem with this hypothetical is that I don't believe we can assume all those 6 people are town. I'm still very sus of sylv as stated in my response to cyan earlier, and I think erry is aligned with sylv because of the way they defended sylv. I'd like to see more about what erry has to say since there have been lots of new developments, and what they've said thus far is quite impactful. also i'm not gonna put too much merit into this. just some crazy idea I had and wanted to throw out
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Post by ohsnapa on Jul 4, 2022 14:44:44 GMT
haha baka
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