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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 25, 2022 1:52:03 GMT
so plur is on mighty n all but im down to shift to martin cuz i dont want that dude being afk until mylo and being useless Did they post yet? |
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Post by cyan on Jul 25, 2022 1:56:04 GMT
until mighty comes in and tries to address the wagon this push is going to go nowhere and it's on a slot that doesn't really have anything going for it other than an interaction with PKQ
i'm going to give credit to ddlc inadvertently pushing for the partnership
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 25, 2022 2:47:03 GMT
reading back up. question tho. what will happen if i don't prepare my own contraceptives?
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 25, 2022 2:54:39 GMT
vote martinvtrantalk, new face naur man that guy spent all of NOC 1 Game 2 being afk and did nothing about it when they got called out as another member of NOC 1 Game 2 I can say the following:
first off, it is incredibly refreshing not having to read 5+ pages of just pure shitposting
second, we need to get martin to speak because they were as good as useless in NOC 1 Game 2. unvote mighty, vote martin
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Post by lunarmob on Jul 25, 2022 5:49:31 GMT
if this is true then i want this slot voted today. This has the potential to be an amazing playerlist and I don't want it to be a constant push/question mark about policying the afk. Can we just get this over with day 1? we certainly can. Unvote PKQVote martinvtran(kinda wanna keep PKQ and mightycannon in mind given the earlier chainsaw) I just thought of a possible psuedorandom distribution as well. Check the time at some point while making your hypo post, if the minute is even then pretend to be roleblocked, if the minute is odd then pretend not to be. Obviously cop/seer make sure to check the time to follow this rule as well things that can screw this up: - server lag - human error - human error (twice) though all things considered, the real problem with any hypoing strat in a PL with roleblockers is if the RB targets someone who claims a hypoed inspect, that person is automatically not cop/seer oh shit lunar is playing nice he's town too this is our first real read on the day and it's being placed on a 14 year old single boy who insists on giving sex life advice to a playerlist of high schoolers and adults we might not be having fun today boys That's one of the highest assumptions of my age I've ever seen but I'm not 14 dickhead |
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Post by lunarmob on Jul 25, 2022 5:50:31 GMT
Also how you know that I'm single
The slander really is wild
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Post by xdrudi on Jul 25, 2022 6:36:30 GMT
Just like in the first noc I received the first vote. Mom, I finally get recognized. As far as I have seen martinvtran is the only one who hasnt posted yet. So until then I'm voting them. vote martinvtran
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jul 25, 2022 7:36:35 GMT
I just thought of a possible psuedorandom distribution as well. Check the time at some point while making your hypo post, if the minute is even then pretend to be roleblocked, if the minute is odd then pretend not to be. Obviously cop/seer make sure to check the time to follow this rule as well things that can screw this up: - server lag - human error - human error (twice) though all things considered, the real problem with any hypoing strat in a PL with roleblockers is if the RB targets someone who claims a hypoed inspect, that person is automatically not cop/seer Agreed. The chance of crossblocking exists, but is low enough that a hypo strat can only see it as an miniscule bonus. The idea behind the psuedorandom timing system is that people will post at effectively random times of day, and this will make roughly 50% of people claim to be roleblocked. Hopefully, if scum roleblocks a vt, the vt will have a 50% chance to not give themselves away. Similarly, the existence of single-faction cops in a multiball is that we can just claim scum/notscum results to not instantly give ourselves away as vts. Server lag and human error aren't too important here, because the purpose of the timer isn't to verify anything, but simply to leverage a regularly changing number (minute of the day) to psuedorandomly have people be roleblocked. The issue of human error is only gonna be in people that don't read this plan and/or forget it come hypo time. REPEAT:
1. I believe we should hypo with scum/notscum results to make it harder to tell fakes from reals
2. Half of us should claim to be roleblocked to confuse the scum roleblockers
3. Check the clock during your post and pretend to be roleblocked if the minute is even
4. keep track of who you hypo, don't accidentally investigate someone twice |
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Post by cyan on Jul 25, 2022 7:39:35 GMT
reading back up. question tho. what will happen if i don't prepare my own contraceptives? you won't have the peace of mind of knowing that they're bulletproof, i suppose. we could get into the specific dynamics of how stealthing happens and whether or not one gender should be more wary of it than another but come on, man that's too complicated for this PL Also how you know that I'm single The slander really is wild anyone who speaks of their sex life with that level of caution doesn't have the reassurance of a loving partner. this isn't child's play. |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jul 25, 2022 7:40:39 GMT
Also I feel like the miniguide to "how to hypo" was particularly important in this game because the nuance of 2 scum factions each with their own roleblockers means you can get around the usual flaw of hypo-against-roleblockers by giving a hypothetical result anyways if a lot of vts do the same and randomly claim to have been roleblocked. Why did I like actually forget what hypo means holy shit I need scep to give me lessons again. But tbh why would ppl hypo in a game with multiple factions unless it’s a scum result honestly that's a good question and I think it'll help a lot for lategame clearing once there's only one faction left, or once we get 1/2 of a faction and start trying to fish for the other via interactions there might be clears. |
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Post by cyan on Jul 25, 2022 7:42:05 GMT
anyway uh obligatory +1 for fort for suggesting hypos
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Post by mightycannon on Jul 25, 2022 9:39:21 GMT
Good strategy I dont see why people are voting pkq when they are about to go afk Vote cyan talon"good strategy" like no offense to fort but that's literally just an argument in favour of hypoing plus a mini-guide on how to do it you're either pocketing or not thinking super hard and you're a little lucky that my impression of you favours the latter possibility by a long stretch I am afraid obvious things are to be agreed on because some people might not considering the number of games i have played this is apparent If an idea is presented before its executed its likelier more people follow it even though it might be obvious to most I am afraid thats what you couldn't realise and thats why suspect me of pocketing I dont see how agreeing on hypoing with someone could point to pocketing so i would like to have your opinion on that |
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Post by mightycannon on Jul 25, 2022 9:55:25 GMT
i feel like the martin wagon has a few scums on it seeing all the votes right now it feels like an easy vote
But there are 2 reasons why this is invalid
1. honestly i feel frustrated from the previous game seeing how half the pl was afk until the nigt where we got 3 subs and didnt improve much even later so i can see where people are coming from
2. This is a multiball setup and so there is a chance , this is a other faction scum
think currently i would like to watch this wagon and see if it grows or not to check if my reason 2 is correct
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Post by John on Jul 25, 2022 11:50:09 GMT
so plur is on mighty n all but im down to shift to martin cuz i dont want that dude being afk until mylo and being useless I am going to point the Finger of Suspicion™ at mymemoryisbad for this incredibly lazy push on the afk here. While I do not like people lurking all game (like what happened in noc game 1) this is still a very easy way for scum to wagon on someone the rest of town wants out of the game without having to make their own reads. unvote PKQ, vote MMIB |
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Post by cyan on Jul 25, 2022 12:12:30 GMT
so plur is on mighty n all but im down to shift to martin cuz i dont want that dude being afk until mylo and being useless I am going to point the Finger of Suspicion™ at mymemoryisbad for this incredibly lazy push on the afk here. While I do not like people lurking all game (like what happened in noc game 1) this is still a very easy way for scum to wagon on someone the rest of town wants out of the game without having to make their own reads. unvote PKQ, vote MMIB 9 times out of 10 i would've agreed with you on this, but this is one of those 1s if you need context, go over to noc 1 game 2 day 4-5, and read through the slogs of text debating whether or not martin was a good lurkpush. they were present and sending in idles, but never spoke a lick the motherfucker liked a post in d5 and that instantly sent half the game into an "auuuuUGH" |
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Post by cyan on Jul 25, 2022 12:19:17 GMT
"good strategy" like no offense to fort but that's literally just an argument in favour of hypoing plus a mini-guide on how to do it you're either pocketing or not thinking super hard and you're a little lucky that my impression of you favours the latter possibility by a long stretch I am afraid obvious things are to be agreed on because some people might not considering the number of games i have played this is apparent If an idea is presented before its executed its likelier more people follow it even though it might be obvious to most I am afraid thats what you couldn't realise and thats why suspect me of pocketing I dont see how agreeing on hypoing with someone could point to pocketing so i would like to have your opinion on that i'm not saying that fort's suggestion was an obvious move. i'm actually perfectly fine with saying it isn't. i'm saying that it doesn't count towards being a strategy you play chess, you should know the difference between strategies and tactics (which is what fort's current suggestion falls under) but my deal here is that you made a post specifically saying fort had a good [insert term here] in response to the first post in which fort suggested hypoing. at the time of you making your post, fort had not expanded on the tactical idea with the extra "claim no result on even minutes" stuff, nor did he start any discussion around avoiding scum getting confs out of their roleblockers. since you asked about the buddying bit, fort literally made a post saying "we should hypo" in a more exotic and sensible way than most and you quickly jumped on to call it a "good strategy", which could either be you misunderstanding what game strategies generally entail or you trying to win fort over |
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Post by cyan on Jul 25, 2022 12:22:28 GMT
Just like in the first noc I received the first vote. Mom, I finally get recognized. As far as I have seen martinvtran is the only one who hasnt posted yet. So until then I'm voting them. vote martinvtran in retrospect, though, i don't like how this lurkervote statement was made without the sense of irony the rest of us sheep injected into ours like xdrudi genuinely believes martinvtran to be an intentional anti-town player, i mean |
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 25, 2022 13:13:31 GMT
is it time for me to solve the game yet
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 25, 2022 13:14:21 GMT
so plur is on mighty n all but im down to shift to martin cuz i dont want that dude being afk until mylo and being useless I am going to point the Finger of Suspicion™ at mymemoryisbad for this incredibly lazy push on the afk here. While I do not like people lurking all game (like what happened in noc game 1) this is still a very easy way for scum to wagon on someone the rest of town wants out of the game without having to make their own reads. unvote PKQ, vote MMIB So u townread the afk? How come? |
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 25, 2022 13:14:52 GMT
Being afk does not give anyone a special pass. Especially after game 1 where people gave masq a pass for no reason d1 lmao
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 25, 2022 13:15:37 GMT
Gut says mighty is town fwiw
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Post by dkkoba on Jul 25, 2022 13:17:38 GMT
vote: pkq
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Post by cyan on Jul 25, 2022 13:36:12 GMT
I am going to point the Finger of Suspicion™ at mymemoryisbad for this incredibly lazy push on the afk here. While I do not like people lurking all game (like what happened in noc game 1) this is still a very easy way for scum to wagon on someone the rest of town wants out of the game without having to make their own reads. unvote PKQ, vote MMIB So u townread the afk? How come? i'll just let this speak for itself  |
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Post by mightycannon on Jul 25, 2022 14:18:38 GMT
I am afraid obvious things are to be agreed on because some people might not considering the number of games i have played this is apparent If an idea is presented before its executed its likelier more people follow it even though it might be obvious to most I am afraid thats what you couldn't realise and thats why suspect me of pocketing I dont see how agreeing on hypoing with someone could point to pocketing so i would like to have your opinion on that i'm not saying that fort's suggestion was an obvious move. i'm actually perfectly fine with saying it isn't. i'm saying that it doesn't count towards being a strategy you play chess, you should know the difference between strategies and tactics (which is what fort's current suggestion falls under) but my deal here is that you made a post specifically saying fort had a good [insert term here] in response to the first post in which fort suggested hypoing. at the time of you making your post, fort had not expanded on the tactical idea with the extra "claim no result on even minutes" stuff, nor did he start any discussion around avoiding scum getting confs out of their roleblockers. since you asked about the buddying bit, fort literally made a post saying "we should hypo" in a more exotic and sensible way than most and you quickly jumped on to call it a "good strategy", which could either be you misunderstanding what game strategies generally entail or you trying to win fort over I can't fathom how agreeing on something so quick will be like buddying Suppose someone says we should claim at any point of the game and i agree will that make me pocket him? By your logic yes |
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Post by mightycannon on Jul 25, 2022 14:25:39 GMT
If someone says something that mostly helps town and i agree to it i don't see how you could think i was pocketing them
If multiple agree and try to do something more is the chance others will follow
Also if your still adamant about the pocket read,
Multiple people have agreed to it and so why am I the special case, you might say fort might hadn't expanded more on their 'tactic' then vs now but the base idea is still the same I dont see how me agreeing to hypoing early on is different than agreeing on a tactic
If you speak of chess ,finding a tactic and seeing it helps to get a better position then multiple people will play it
More of my reasoning on that agreeing has already been given in my previous posts so please reread them
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