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Post by kliff on Apr 1, 2023 4:42:48 GMT
ChatGPT doesn't allow me to call u scum so red will do for now My only scumlean rn. When I look at this again it feels a bit forced. It reads to me like Crespo may have been looking for any reason whatsoever to clear the suspicion of his strange post by declaring that it was AI generated Somewhat reiterating, I think town is more comfortable with the rocky thread position they can be put in from memeposting because as town they have faith they can recover easily I think there should be some urgency rn to start shaping wagons. if we want to go for slots that are inactive we should have that convo soon but I would say not because there's too many of them and they can't really be differentiated meaningfully So basally, Vote spiderz -> Dodge explaination -> I just reread something -> Vote Crespo -> "guys lets get some urgency". Vote Quojova |
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Post by spiderz on Apr 1, 2023 4:43:35 GMT
now I understand you're referring to the same player with two different names with this post though I don't get how it can be a "hard reading" if it's AI generated I was going to be obtuse here and tell you to read toni the Crespo guides posts but I got lazy - toni immediately reacts to my vote on them with ai generated content, which he admits after I question it further - majority of content so far has been calling me scum and backing down from explaining - conclusion is that it is both you cant b serious |
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Post by spiderz on Apr 1, 2023 4:44:38 GMT
ChatGPT doesn't allow me to call u scum so red will do for now My only scumlean rn. When I look at this again it feels a bit forced. It reads to me like Crespo may have been looking for any reason whatsoever to clear the suspicion of his strange post by declaring that it was AI generated Somewhat reiterating, I think town is more comfortable with the rocky thread position they can be put in from memeposting because as town they have faith they can recover easily I think there should be some urgency rn to start shaping wagons. if we want to go for slots that are inactive we should have that convo soon but I would say not because there's too many of them and they can't really be differentiated meaningfully I dislike this progression because it's incorrect and it's too convenient |
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Post by spiderz on Apr 1, 2023 4:44:57 GMT
I am a kliff sheep Vote Quo
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Post by spiderz on Apr 1, 2023 4:46:04 GMT
posts reading Toni's opening as anything more than possibly very slightly scum are just wrong
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Post by spiderz on Apr 1, 2023 4:46:47 GMT
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Post by quojova on Apr 1, 2023 4:49:13 GMT
the series of questions to OM isn't meant to look like work I just don't get where his thought process is coming from on Crespo at all honestly just ended up being a big chunk of my posts because the questions uncovered more questions you are missing my point, stuff like your analysis on the whole toni thing, your interactions with clem, and that. Maybe it's the fact we play mafia differently but I hate the idea of being able to analyze situations but not using your analysis of their thought process to help solve, what do you hope to gain in their reactions by pointing it out, it's like you found that spark to light your fire but you put it out right away. There's this higher level scum tendency where scum will analyze everything they can in order to look townie. Although there hasn't been a lot of real game content I don't think a lot of your analysis thus far has been solvey for that reason when the thread is low on reads I usually try to get one out there you could say it's forcing but its stuff that has a kernel of truth in my mind and is tipping my opinions at least a bit |
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Post by quojova on Apr 1, 2023 4:54:34 GMT
I think derz's response to this is legit but this is the main post I would say is making me think green on clouds in the last few pages think it shows comfort to have a read that makes sense in the gut but maybe not so much written out I actually vibe with the original read onto cuddlezz from how matter-of-factly cuddlezz phrased it though which is prob a part of this idk wym at all he's expressing that rationally he has significant doubt about the read but is fine with putting it out there anyway even if it reads as pretty flimy because it makes sense to him on a gut level and I'm on board for that because I also vibe with it on a gut level |
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Post by spiderz on Apr 1, 2023 4:57:33 GMT
you are missing my point, stuff like your analysis on the whole toni thing, your interactions with clem, and that. Maybe it's the fact we play mafia differently but I hate the idea of being able to analyze situations but not using your analysis of their thought process to help solve, what do you hope to gain in their reactions by pointing it out, it's like you found that spark to light your fire but you put it out right away. There's this higher level scum tendency where scum will analyze everything they can in order to look townie. Although there hasn't been a lot of real game content I don't think a lot of your analysis thus far has been solvey for that reason when the thread is low on reads I usually try to get one out there you could say it's forcing but its stuff that has a kernel of truth in my mind and is tipping my opinions at least a bit First of all you realize that forcing reads is bad because they are likely to be incorrect, second of all you aren't really forcing reads less then you are voting toni for something that is virtually nai which you have acknowledged yourself. You are scumreading him on the basis that he would stick to the bit if he was town but instead folded right away but like look at that in the scum prespective, why would he do that ChatGPT strat if he was scared of garnering pressure for it, the logic is too backwards. It's very much more likely that his mentality was to post one or two chatgpt posts at the start of the game for fun which is likely for both alignments. And I'm not throwing away your read on toni folding when he got pusback because it IS possible I am just saying that there is a much likelier conclusion Secondly this post was never referring to forcing your reads, it was about how fast you are to analyze anything instead of using information to solve, it's like you are analyzing information because you want to look town because I think you would have a completely different mentality if you wanted to solve |
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Post by spiderz on Apr 1, 2023 5:01:26 GMT
he's expressing that rationally he has significant doubt about the read but is fine with putting it out there anyway even if it reads as pretty flimy because it makes sense to him on a gut level and I'm on board for that because I also vibe with it on a gut level thats not what he said and I think scum!clouds is capable of understanding that being town and having bad reads are not mutually exclusive. Also clouds didn't TR him because it was a gut read, or at least he did not express it was a gut read in his post. And also you did not just town read someone because you gutread the same person as town. |
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Post by spiderz on Apr 1, 2023 5:03:41 GMT
ps mafia forum moment
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Post by spiderz on Apr 1, 2023 5:04:52 GMT
should I sit here and complain about the afks and how realistically this game will be hard mode because i'm randing like 5-6 peoples alignment since they have next to no content Lol
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Post by quojova on Apr 1, 2023 5:05:12 GMT
something is not clicking
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Post by cuddleszz on Apr 1, 2023 5:05:59 GMT
yes i am high. i also usually like to play games that are faster pace forums is ssuch slow paced that my attention span just dies outright
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Post by cuddleszz on Apr 1, 2023 5:07:55 GMT
unvote OM vote quo
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Post by spiderz on Apr 1, 2023 5:10:08 GMT
let him cook
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Post by spiderz on Apr 1, 2023 5:10:18 GMT
something is not clicking xplain |
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Post by quojova on Apr 1, 2023 5:11:35 GMT
when the thread is low on reads I usually try to get one out there you could say it's forcing but its stuff that has a kernel of truth in my mind and is tipping my opinions at least a bit First of all you realize that forcing reads is bad because they are likely to be incorrect, second of all you aren't really forcing reads less then you are voting toni for something that is virtually nai which you have acknowledged yourself. You are scumreading him on the basis that he would stick to the bit if he was town but instead folded right away but like look at that in the scum prespective, why would he do that ChatGPT strat if he was scared of garnering pressure for it, the logic is too backwards. It's very much more likely that his mentality was to post one or two chatgpt posts at the start of the game for fun which is likely for both alignments. And I'm not throwing away your read on toni folding when he got pusback because it IS possible I am just saying that there is a much likelier conclusion Secondly this post was never referring to forcing your reads, it was about how fast you are to analyze anything instead of using information to solve, it's like you are analyzing information because you want to look town because I think you would have a completely different mentality if you wanted to solve we need wagons and if I'm going to start one it's very natural to vote my top scumread, it doesn't really matter how minor if it if it's the only thing I've gotten at that point I don't actually know where else you are seeing overanalysis outside of the toni thing you mentioned my interactions with clem earlier but there was never really any analysis there |
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Post by cuddleszz on Apr 1, 2023 5:14:38 GMT
spiderz is town im happy
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Post by cuddleszz on Apr 1, 2023 5:26:33 GMT
i townread spiderz and clouds and i am liking the wagon on quovo along with the pressure he definitely feeling it
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Post by quojova on Apr 1, 2023 5:31:08 GMT
he's expressing that rationally he has significant doubt about the read but is fine with putting it out there anyway even if it reads as pretty flimy because it makes sense to him on a gut level and I'm on board for that because I also vibe with it on a gut level thats not what he said and I think scum!clouds is capable of understanding that being town and having bad reads are not mutually exclusive. Also clouds didn't TR him because it was a gut read, or at least he did not express it was a gut read in his post. And also you did not just town read someone because you gutread the same person as town. I'm looking at the "kinda somehow" and "maybe it's bad to read into that much but it seemed like" that tells me he has rational objections with his read but despite those objections it still feels right to him. The fact that I also agree with the somewhat handwavy aspects of the post, makes it more likely to me that it it's a genuine reaction since it's one that I have replicated for real maybe "gut" is too loaded of a mafia term to use here but it that handwaviness (lack of rigor) is what I'm reading into every town behavior is obviously replicable by mafia but putting a "bad read" (in the sense that it isn't that confident) while still being something I agree with is a sign that clouds is thinking like town and wants to put those thoughts out there |
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Post by cuddleszz on Apr 1, 2023 6:16:08 GMT
i will update everyone on my schedule for saturday i have taxes to do at 2:30pm and will be watching the thread once i am finished i expect to be checking it around 9:00pm my vote will be unchanged until i check and reread. so for now townreads clouds spiderz. scumreads quo schia om. rest nai. godspeed
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Post by iavh on Apr 1, 2023 6:25:39 GMT
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Post by iavh on Apr 1, 2023 6:35:55 GMT
wtf my post didnt load
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Post by iavh on Apr 1, 2023 6:41:49 GMT
lets redo it then
Good morning I am back bitches
quo literally stated that 'TOWN would say something like that' or smth, my kindle is bad at quoting, but I know it is in the first 2 pages
this means that quo is not town bc he would use 'we' instead referring to towm as a 'they'.
next. quo has been actively avoiding me asking about the derz wagon until like page 5, stating that scept is the one to blame
no I stuck to him
this is kinda how I got my read.
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