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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 15:50:39 GMT
Noting down gutread #2 on Kliff just being scum slanking or w/e I'm trying to use brain here and noting down this first - I'm assuming at least one wolf was on fort wagon Clem is obvtowning, I feel okay abt ani, spiderz flipped town Leaving litt/mc as the votes that are both later and the two I'm ~rand meh w/ I think mc shift is arguably scummier than litt's vote but lol litts d1 Here's OM read on me for D4. Never once scumreads me and continue to encourage wagons to be mc/Litt while also shading kliff in several posts. I'll grab his progressions on mc, litt, and myan in a bit.
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 15:52:29 GMT
vote animal midwifeself-pres etc & I don't really~ feel like arguing atm I think nks don't make sense coming from s!om in the terms of 'I like having fun when I play mafia', especially me killing schia I think assuming distancing post when I come and call myan out randomly is more assuming wifom than anything my eod on myan vote day sucks but shrug I was looking after two high friends and watching eeaao shit happenz First post of D5. Includes nothing about me. Just preemptively explains why he's village despite having a terrible reaction to myan's wagon.
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 15:55:12 GMT
Because OM said "I don't feel like fighting; here's self-prez." That doesn't fly with me. My "focus" is on self Prez because OM forced it to be so less than half way through the cycle. If he steps down, I will as well. Seems silly I did self-pres bc I don't think I'll have to time to be present enough to scumhunt and think following poe is fine enough, and I don't really think I forced anything with my 1 vote There is more than enough people alive for you to just ignore me and solve around me so your insistence to defend yourself and stay alive feels awkward in comparison
Affirms that he's only "following POE" and is "too busy to explain" while having still given no reason as to why he, individually, scumreads me.
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 15:55:54 GMT
@ om if you're town it might just be ani it probs is? idk
Third and final post about me.
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 15:57:55 GMT
Then we have today when I'm finally going after him and suddenly the WIM is back and he has all sort of reason for why he's always know my reaction to Litt's death was scummy. I just quoted all his posts about me. Where's the case that he's referring to? I welcome you to confirm that what I've shown is every quote you've made about me since Schia's death OM~!.
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Post by mightycannon on Apr 15, 2023 15:58:30 GMT
generally my take is your pure survivalism is a sign of scum wincon - you're only looking to live another night and try to get further and further
Like, if you were town I would have expected you to have, like, done what you're doing tonight already instead of just going with the flow about it and getting scorr voted out I suspected scorch since he subbed in. It had nothing to do with going with the flow. What am I doing new today that I haven't done already? Those are vague buzzwords. Regardless, survivalism isn't AI. The only person you know is village for certainty is yourself. P poor defense Vote animalmidwife
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Post by mightycannon on Apr 15, 2023 16:03:22 GMT
Another major thing here is om is p helpless here as scum after the ani vote unlike ani idt hes setting up more future votes which is p clear from the fact that he could have just let clems sr me but he somewhat defended me albeit clems prob dies but its still weird,he also defended crespo with pmeta reasoning Also gm im p tired rn so gn
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 16:07:37 GMT
Another major thing here is om is p helpless here as scum after the ani vote unlike ani idt hes setting up more future votes which is p clear from the fact that he could have just let clems sr me but he somewhat defended me albeit clems prob dies but its still weird,he also defended crespo with pmeta reasoning Also gm im p tired rn so gn You realize that after my vote that OM's in f3, right? You'll die in f3 because litt posted a faulty legacy and he'll quote said legacy to trick whoever the other townie is.
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 16:12:39 GMT
Honestly, it'll probably be an OM/Clem/mc f3. That has the greatest chance of winning given the seeds of doubt are already in Clem's head.
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Post by iavh on Apr 15, 2023 16:49:57 GMT
Honestly, it'll probably be an OM/Clem/mc f3. That has the greatest chance of winning given the seeds of doubt are already in Clem's head. wat seeds of doubt I don't understand what it means
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 16:51:52 GMT
Honestly, it'll probably be an OM/Clem/mc f3. That has the greatest chance of winning given the seeds of doubt are already in Clem's head. wat seeds of doubt I don't understand what it means You already voted mc today. I fear it'd happen in again in f3.
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Post by OM~! on Apr 15, 2023 17:59:59 GMT
you're not deepwolfing
you're being heavily scumread
That's not what deepwolfing means. I don't think you're the one who was set up to deepwolf and you just happened to be the one that was left
Regardless your claim of 'I don't deepwolf' doesn't work
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Post by iavh on Apr 15, 2023 18:00:41 GMT
fine you win I'll get off mc vote ani
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Post by OM~! on Apr 15, 2023 18:08:16 GMT
generally my take is your pure survivalism is a sign of scum wincon - you're only looking to live another night and try to get further and further
Like, if you were town I would have expected you to have, like, done what you're doing tonight already instead of just going with the flow about it and getting scorr voted out I suspected scorch since he subbed in. It had nothing to do with going with the flow. What am I doing new today that I haven't done already? Those are vague buzzwords. Regardless, survivalism isn't AI. The only person you know is village for certainty is yourself. Scorr take doesn't check out (see here, where you explicitly noted scorr as a town you wouldn't vote out: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/92728/thread) You having done so already and pretty consistently is the reason I changed my mind from before! The circumstances for last scum changed a shit ton between when I made my previous reads on you and now.
I'm not being vague w/ it I am saying that I think you are the only person playing for a selfish win condition (aka what you are doing only helps yourself, not all of town.)
This isn't like
a basic self-preservation vote, you decided to thunderdome after I spent like the entirety of last phase parked on you and I think you're just going to try and find every reason possible to keep a vote off you by thunderdoming someone else. You did it with litteleven, now you're doing it here, and I suspect if I get voted off you're going to do it to someone else.
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 18:11:53 GMT
That's not what deepwolfing means. I don't think you're the one who was set up to deepwolf and you just happened to be the one that was left
Regardless your claim of 'I don't deepwolf' doesn't work
How does it not work?
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 18:12:13 GMT
fine you win I'll get off mc vote ani Promise me you´ll never vote mc again.
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Post by OM~! on Apr 15, 2023 18:13:49 GMT
I changed my reads
I voted litt after the post-cuddleszz vote because I thought that was just an outright pr bait of a vote that aimed at keeping himself alive rather than trying to win game
I think you're wolfing because your gameplay does not feel like you are trying to help town in this endgame, instead it's more like you are trying to help yourself
How come there are no posts with said read changes? You have taken the most passive stances on both of us. I'll quote all your posts about us post-Schia death I dunno I feel like I made my read clear when I kept parked on you and litteleven
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Post by OM~! on Apr 15, 2023 18:14:15 GMT
I don't think you're the one who was set up to deepwolf and you just happened to be the one that was left
Regardless your claim of 'I don't deepwolf' doesn't work
How does it not work? It's just a wifom statement for people generally unfamiliar with your gameplay
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 18:16:55 GMT
I suspected scorch since he subbed in. It had nothing to do with going with the flow. What am I doing new today that I haven't done already? Those are vague buzzwords. Regardless, survivalism isn't AI. The only person you know is village for certainty is yourself. Scorr take doesn't check out (see here, where you explicitly noted scorr as a town you wouldn't vote out: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/92728/thread) You having done so already and pretty consistently is the reason I changed my mind from before! The circumstances for last scum changed a shit ton between when I made my previous reads on you and now. I'm not being vague w/ it I am saying that I think you are the only person playing for a selfish win condition (aka what you are doing only helps yourself, not all of town.) This isn't like
a basic self-preservation vote, you decided to thunderdome after I spent like the entirety of last phase parked on you and I think you're just going to try and find every reason possible to keep a vote off you by thunderdoming someone else. You did it with litteleven, now you're doing it here, and I suspect if I get voted off you're going to do it to someone else.
That was back when I was sure the game was ending with litt. After that, I started to wonder if I was in a game state where I needed to challenge the status quo (pun intended to win). We are. What sold me on scorch was that he didn´t vote. I thought he gave up because I couldn´t see why a townie would accept their death like that. I fail to see how I´m only self-helping. If I'm wrong today, I get voted out regardless of who's alive in f3. When you're wrong today, you can push mc easily because he's been in and out of the POE all game. You'll say he was opportunistically pushing me today and Clem might just believe you.
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 18:18:59 GMT
How come there are no posts with said read changes? You have taken the most passive stances on both of us. I'll quote all your posts about us post-Schia death I dunno I feel like I made my read clear when I kept parked on you and litteleven
You're read on me at the cycle of litt's misyeet was that I was spewed town. That's exactly why I know you're lying. Your scumread post litt's death is based on supposed retroactive reasoning that doesn't line up and/or never happened.
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 18:19:36 GMT
It's just a wifom statement for people generally unfamiliar with your gameplay Do you know who was familiar with my gameplay? Would you like to see what he said when I voted out a wolf?
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Post by iavh on Apr 15, 2023 18:20:09 GMT
fine you win I'll get off mc vote ani Promise me you´ll never vote mc again. Not until I get a good reason to. But can I vote them in future forum games like Fenrir's Fire and Ice, which in no way am I advertising to you guys? Signups should come as soon as game ends.
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Post by Animal Midwife on Apr 15, 2023 18:24:16 GMT
Promise me you´ll never vote mc again. Not until I get a good reason to. But can I vote them in future forum games like Fenrir's Fire and Ice, which in no way am I advertising to you guys? Signups should come as soon as game ends. You have two options. I'm not letting you throw. 1. Misvote me today and you're banned from voting mc in f3. 2. Vote OM today.
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Post by OM~! on Apr 15, 2023 18:26:12 GMT
That was back when I was sure the game was ending with litt. After that, I started to wonder if I was in a game state where I needed to challenge the status quo (pun intended to win). We are. What sold me on scorch was that he didn´t vote. I thought he gave up because I couldn´t see why a townie would accept their death like that. I fail to see how I´m only self-helping. If I'm wrong today, I get voted out regardless of who's alive in f3. raises eyebrow @ first few sentences.
Nah you've been pretty obviously setting up votes down the line with your posts first set of posts imo (I think your questioning of kliff / clem is weird at best, meant to create distrust in towncore @ worst), I think you're just going to continue thunderdoming with people until you win.
If we're going down the volo pathway, next vote is mylo @ f4, There is also no world where I kill schiavetto. When you're wrong today, you can push mc easily because he's been in and out of the POE all game. You'll say he was opportunistically pushing me today and Clem might just believe you. lolwut
I'm pretty sure mighty cannon is cleared off the myan/mc being cws off each other???
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Post by OM~! on Apr 15, 2023 18:28:46 GMT
anyways going to dip for a few hours (give or take 3-4) for chores --> psmpl
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