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Post by Prodigu on May 27, 2023 3:33:10 GMT
I think I'm getting shot to day where does this thought come from The fact that Gary hates ihbst and Clem but prob doesnt wanna risk a Clem shot because he would actually throw the game |
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Post by Prodigu on May 27, 2023 3:33:58 GMT
where does this thought come from The fact that Gary hates ihbst and Clem but prob doesnt wanna risk a Clem shot because he would actually throw the game *assuming Clem flips town |
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Post by iavh on May 27, 2023 6:15:12 GMT
how dare you
I wouldn't throw
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Post by Wob on May 27, 2023 6:18:11 GMT
who would you shoot if you got gun right now iavh? |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 27, 2023 10:38:47 GMT
I'll work on Gary's request tn, for now im interested in the interactions with Gary [Schia I discussed yday. Would love to hear perspectives esp on this though] Clemens got into an altercation with Gary, when Gary was a somewhat obvious shot (Yash hadn't really said anything all day and it was the expected shot from Yash). I don't think it'd be smart of scum!Clemens to respond so aggressively to Gary, when he's been more docile for the rest of the game. Not sure if scum!clemens would think of this though. I am more suspicious of ihbst in this context though. He just... didn't answer or engage at all. I guess this is a recurring theme for him this game, but it is getting annoying. Prodigu has very limited interactions with Gary the past few days. He responded to me talking about my interaction with Gary, and responded to clemens when clemens was talking to Gary. But not actually with Gary himself. This wasn't just yesterday, so it wasn't because scum!prod knew Gary was gonna be gunned per se. Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ you asked about wolfcases on prod. How do you feel about what I said? At this point I am getting slightly more worried about the fact that prod feels 'just there' to me. I am getting a bit paranoid and would like a second opinion (if anyone else wants to comment, please do!) |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 27, 2023 10:45:21 GMT
Interestingly, Myan sorta pushed Yash to go for clemens instead of Gary, though this was before Yash was gunned. I find it a little odd that he didn't comment on this yesterday when Gary was the obvious shot, but wanting Yash to shoot clemens earlier would still have explicitly avoided a town shot if he'd convinced yash. I'd be surprised if Myan and clemens were both Mafia rn, then it would have been really risky for Myan. If it's scum!Myan, and town!Clemens, I could see Myan committing to this narrative though. Still interested MyanMario, how did interactions with Yash and Gary change your reads? assuming you still SR clemens I'm especially interseted in Clemens-Gary interaction analysis |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 27, 2023 10:52:15 GMT
another thing i want to do tonight: read toni's iso and see if he had any interesting interactions
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Post by Gary The Savage on May 27, 2023 11:27:30 GMT
I think wob is the most interesting spot remaining.
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Post by iavh on May 27, 2023 13:09:02 GMT
who would you shoot if you got gun right now iavh ? snek asked me that question yday, wbu |
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Post by Gary The Savage on May 27, 2023 13:29:39 GMT
I think it would be a little cute if everyone presented a scum case for every remaining player, even those they may tr. Getting every player to agree to thar may be difficult, but ultimately I'd find it quite beneficial Clems pls do this for me |
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Post by iavh on May 27, 2023 13:44:45 GMT
I think it would be a little cute if everyone presented a scum case for every remaining player, even those they may tr. Getting every player to agree to thar may be difficult, but ultimately I'd find it quite beneficial Clems pls do this for me Ok, I’m at ASDA, I’ll post when I get back |
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Post by MyanMario on May 27, 2023 14:11:03 GMT
Interestingly, Myan sorta pushed Yash to go for clemens instead of Gary, though this was before Yash was gunned. I find it a little odd that he didn't comment on this yesterday when Gary was the obvious shot, but wanting Yash to shoot clemens earlier would still have explicitly avoided a town shot if he'd convinced yash. I'd be surprised if Myan and clemens were both Mafia rn, then it would have been really risky for Myan. If it's scum!Myan, and town!Clemens, I could see Myan committing to this narrative though. Still interested MyanMario, how did interactions with Yash and Gary change your reads? assuming you still SR clemens I'm especially interseted in Clemens-Gary interaction analysis I’m a bit confused what you mean about how my reads changed; yash didn’t make progression, Gary did in a way advocating passively to not be shot Yes I still SR clemens if you check any of my posts |
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Post by MyanMario on May 27, 2023 14:11:33 GMT
I’m about to drive on a road trip for 3 hours until my “shift” is over, I’ll see if I can pop in
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Post by Prodigu on May 27, 2023 14:41:53 GMT
I'll work on Gary's request tn, for now im interested in the interactions with Gary [Schia I discussed yday. Would love to hear perspectives esp on this though] Clemens got into an altercation with Gary, when Gary was a somewhat obvious shot (Yash hadn't really said anything all day and it was the expected shot from Yash). I don't think it'd be smart of scum!Clemens to respond so aggressively to Gary, when he's been more docile for the rest of the game. Not sure if scum!clemens would think of this though. I am more suspicious of ihbst in this context though. He just... didn't answer or engage at all. I guess this is a recurring theme for him this game, but it is getting annoying. Prodigu has very limited interactions with Gary the past few days. He responded to me talking about my interaction with Gary, and responded to clemens when clemens was talking to Gary. But not actually with Gary himself. This wasn't just yesterday, so it wasn't because scum!prod knew Gary was gonna be gunned per se. Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ you asked about wolfcases on prod. How do you feel about what I said? At this point I am getting slightly more worried about the fact that prod feels 'just there' to me. I am getting a bit paranoid and would like a second opinion (if anyone else wants to comment, please do!) I have had very few interactions with Gary (that is true) but i think the opposite is silly to not mention, Gary himself has also not interacted with me all that much as well. I do a lot of commenting yes but id wager a decent amount of these comments are expanding on ideas or presenting new ideas within those comments and presenting thoughts. |
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Post by Wob on May 27, 2023 15:02:19 GMT
I think it would be a little cute if everyone presented a scum case for every remaining player, even those they may tr. Getting every player to agree to thar may be difficult, but ultimately I'd find it quite beneficial gonna give this a shot clems: the more i think about it the more i think it would make a lot of sense for toni to just have been bussing clems if they were partners - it did very much seem like clems was definitely getting shot that day so why not just jump on the wagon anyway. one thing i really didnt like from clems was that they made one post about how schia asked for gun and how that could possibly be a town slip. then just a couple posts later they said something about how they didnt mind getting gun and mentioned who they would shoot and even what time they'd be shooting at. it came across as if they thought saying this would also get them some town cred and it all just felt very forced. i do have a hard time reading into their posts in general but thats something that stood out to me as suspect. ihbst: this would be my preferred shot today. i feel like they haven't reacted all that well to some of the shots, particularly after toni flipped it felt like they tried very quickly to recontextualize their reads / posts because they knew it was going to reflect poorly on them. also it seems like their general posting quality / substance has dipped as their name has started coming up more as a potential shot (they even said they felt like they might get shot today), which im wondering is because they dont know how to deal with the increased pressure as scum. myan: myan has tunnelled clems pretty hard this whole game, which confuses me because the reasoning has never really evolved much beyond the amount of trolling / filler, when it seems pretty obvious thats just how clems plays. i do get wanting to shoot a slot like that anyways because it can be pretty annoying to play with. but idk, myan's reasoning for why they wanted to shoot clems but not toni i feel was pretty weak as i went over before, and also it just seems like they havent really given much in-depth thought to anyone else on the playerlist which makes it seem like they aren't actively scumhunting at all. prod: i do think that prod has played a very safe game, he's said a lot that i agree with but at the same time his takes tend to be pretty uncontroversial and non-committal. i do sometimes get the feeling that his posts are crafted in such a way to be present enough / provide enough substance to not be called out for it but at the same time avoid conflict with anyone from town. schia: i think it makes a lot of sense for schia to have pushed for the yash -> gary shots if he's scum, knowing this is how it would play out. especially if his partner is a "safer" slot that hasnt really been on the chopping block so much like snaq or prod that would make it pretty easy for them to clean up here. also i feel like his bit about only shooting someone from toni's quote wall isnt all that convincing and might just be him trying to narrow down the shot pool for today. snaq: his townread on schia feels a bit forced, when i asked him about it the response basically amounted to "i liked his posts" without much consideration as to how town schia would act vs how scum schia would act. it sticks out to me compared to his other posts which have generally had some deeper / better insights into how people are playing. he also brought up that tic tac toe game a couple times i guess to show he gave some consideration to scummy things that schia has done but that also feels like low hanging fruit cause its totally some shit that schia would do regardless of alignment imo lol. idk interested to see if snaq can provide a bit more context on that read though. |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 27, 2023 15:14:16 GMT
Interestingly, Myan sorta pushed Yash to go for clemens instead of Gary, though this was before Yash was gunned. I find it a little odd that he didn't comment on this yesterday when Gary was the obvious shot, but wanting Yash to shoot clemens earlier would still have explicitly avoided a town shot if he'd convinced yash. I'd be surprised if Myan and clemens were both Mafia rn, then it would have been really risky for Myan. If it's scum!Myan, and town!Clemens, I could see Myan committing to this narrative though. Still interested MyanMario , how did interactions with Yash and Gary change your reads? assuming you still SR clemens I'm especially interseted in Clemens-Gary interaction analysis I’m a bit confused what you mean about how my reads changed; yash didn’t make progression, Gary did in a way advocating passively to not be shot Yes I still SR clemens if you check any of my posts I probably haven't communicated what I meant clearly. I do not think that your read changed, but I do think you didn't push said read yesterday when it would've been more relevant |
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Post by Wob on May 27, 2023 15:22:08 GMT
who would you shoot if you got gun right now iavh ? snek asked me that question yday, wbu and you said you would shoot gary who obv isnt an option anymore - who would you shoot now |
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Post by Wob on May 27, 2023 15:22:27 GMT
id hit ihbst as i talked abt above
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Post by Prodigu on May 27, 2023 16:10:21 GMT
As requested ill start to scumcase everyone left in the game at this point
Scum!Clems:
Overall this slot is the most "SR" or disliked slot in the game currently, due to the nature of their posts and general trolling all throughout the game, and even when asked to provide context or anything of substance they refuse to really do it. All of their posts have either been trolling or extremely surface level thoughts overall, saying "yash or wob shot approved" or something like "i think this shot would work today" but not giving any further reasoning or feedback in terms of this.
Scum!ihbst:
This slot is similarish, their posts are not trolling (so better than clems already) however many of their thoughts have been similar "i would like this or this shot today" have been the general quality of their posts. I believe yesterday was the only day that their posts added a little bit more substance to them as opposed to other days (this may be because they believed Yash would shoot them). Many times i have asked them to expand on their reasoning for given posts, and it was like pulling teeth to get them to give any form of reasoning for what they have said. This is a slot i would like us to start taking a better look at and i think requires more scrutiny at this point in time.
Scum!Wob:
Overall this slot has come up at times for being shot, but was never seriously considered, they have the general laid back kinda posting style all game because they have never felt threatened to be shot. I feel as though this slot kinda falls into "never has truly been on the chopping block similarly to me and snaq thus far" overall however idt i can provide a very good scum case on this slot.
Scum!Schia:
Overall this slot has been met with a LOT of scrutiny all game, from day 1 to 2 to 3. During that time frame they felt as though they had to go on the "defensive" so to speak and were posting a lot and trying to make a lot of observations while at the same time trying to get others that hadnt necessarily said to shoot them to TR or town lean them. Since their shot has become less and less brought up their overall posting has also became less and less so as to feel as though they can be more laid back and dont need to worry about being shot. One thing that has stuck out to me is that they originally had said on the day that Toni was shot that a Yash or Wob shot would be good. Firstly, I had asked them to expand on their reasoning for this which had never come to fruition, and secondly, they never mentioned shooting Toni whom i would argue would have fallen into the same category of lurkiness as Wob and Yash had at that point in time so not bringing up Toni would be quite odd. This was also a way to avoid interaction with that user, so that they would not be connected to them if and when they flipped scum. Next they asked everyone to present a scum case against me, which was interesting but never came back to respond to any of the posts that were made, nor state why they asked to do that. This could be because so far I had never been met with any form of pressure and so they wanted to test me up against this kind of unique pressure to see how I would react, or this would be a way to get people to start presenting scumcases against me as a way of beginning to sow seeds of doubt into my slot to put me onto the shot list.
Scum!Snaq:
This slot came into the game very quickly, and had to get into the game very quickly to avoid being shot. They became a very large voice and started trying to "lead" town so to speak, in an effort to make sure no one would SR them. They constantly ask for others' opinions and such in order to make themselves seem more towny to get people to not SR them.
Scum!Myan:
They have been talked about a lot in the beginning of the game, and less so over the course of the game. They kinda fall into a similar category as Schia in which their shot was up a lot, and they started talking a lot more in order to avoid being shot. Since talks about their shot have gone down so has their presence in an effort to make everyone else forget about them. One of the things that I have noticed a lot is they mention "prod is town / townie" in their posts about me, so as a form of buddying me. This could be a genuine town, however i find it weird that its brought up so much.
Scum!Prodigu:
(Ill present a scum case for myself too)
Overall this user has existed and flown under the radar the entirety of the game. A lot of players have expressed some form of thoughts of TR / town lean or "this is not the shot currently" so other players have felt pressured to not question the slot at all which is how they have gotten away with a lot of their actions thus far, and never have fully fallen under scrutiny. Minimal amounts of pressure has been applied to this slot so they feel no need to be defensive at all about not being shot, because there has been no pressure whatsoever. Many of their interactions have never been fully "direct" interactions a lot of what they have said are comments to other players. They probably feel safe to allow town to "shoot themselves" so they can take a laid back approach to being scum, due to never having fallen under any form of scrutiny and allow the game to clean up itself while they watch idly.
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Post by ihbst on May 27, 2023 17:42:36 GMT
-clemensthe is a slot that isn't inherently "townie", the posts have no substance. They haven't been shot despite this, and its one of the most interesting slots in the game. The main problem is that I have no idea what their potential partner could be, since they are pretty much universally disliked and the scum flip (crespo) also wanted a clemensthe shot.
-Wob this slot is wild as it didn't start talking until like day 3. The lack of early interactions really hurts the information on the slot, but once they started talking people kinda stopped talking about them? Their posts give good insight but in hindsight their lines feel cruisy, mostly just agreeing with established slots. I agree with a lot of the points this friend made but watch out
-prodigu this slot feels backseaty if you kwim I realized that most of their lines are responses, tis interesting to note that they often agree with the gun owner of which not a good thing! Something else to note is that they yep they aren't really pushing for a shot, which brings back the the point of a backseater guy
i'll say more later :0
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Post by iavh on May 27, 2023 18:33:04 GMT
let's start with reads
-lemon
the fact you think that I am scum makes me disgusted. constant filler/trolling is how I roll, deal with it
how scummy this player is: constantly on high until proven innocent
-ihbst
another scummy player in a situation similar to me but technically worse than me because I actually get serious when I want to but ihbst can't.
-myan
constant tunneling to try and get a shot out of me. I dont
know myan tunnel meta, but I don't like it. is it just me or what
-gary
this is impossible to be scum. or at least host says, watch this game to be really bastard.
-snek
snek is a big flying dragon type snake who subbed into the game, I like snek, don't think can find anything AI that seems to be against him yet.
-prod
is this slot still alive lol
it is.
huge walls that I have trouble reading. that is what I remebr of prod rn
-wob
seems on and off, mostly in the off part
seems to be following what snaq asks me and asking them again (snaq asked me who I would shoot yday, wob asked same q today, but in fairness gary got gun so yeah)
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Post by iavh on May 27, 2023 18:35:42 GMT
oh yeah schia exists.
tic tac toe. I just didn't like it
note schia has in multiple shotlists and seems to vanish from them.
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Post by Gary The Savage on May 27, 2023 18:49:32 GMT
let's start with reads -lemon the fact you think that I am scum makes me disgusted. constant filler/trolling is how I roll, deal with it how scummy this player is: constantly on high until proven innocent -ihbst another scummy player in a situation similar to me but technically worse than me because I actually get serious when I want to but ihbst can't. -myan constant tunneling to try and get a shot out of me. I dont know myan tunnel meta, but I don't like it. is it just me or what -gary this is impossible to be scum. or at least host says, watch this game to be really bastard. -snek snek is a big flying dragon type snake who subbed into the game, I like snek, don't think can find anything AI that seems to be against him yet. -prod is this slot still alive lol it is. huge walls that I have trouble reading. that is what I remebr of prod rn -wob seems on and off, mostly in the off part seems to be following what snaq asks me and asking them again (snaq asked me who I would shoot yday, wob asked same q today, but in fairness gary got gun so yeah) This doesn't answer my question. I asked for a scumcase on everyone remaining and the only one you even gave anything for is Myan |
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Post by iavh on May 27, 2023 18:57:34 GMT
reads
scumcase
tomato potato laa
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Post by iavh on May 27, 2023 19:11:38 GMT
scum case 2 coming out after I finish my bath
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