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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 2:38:40 GMT
why were you specifically asking for fame here after fingerlings tagged? i have to reeval things cause neo dying over me means i'm wrong somewhere for sure Fame was literally online at dl and refused to talk or do anything and they were the only person that could have saved fingerings I thought. Still mad asf about that not hitting cuz we could be a day ahead rn lol and I definitely think game sub could still be scum because I assumed game was mason but ya what's the game having masons or not having masons got to do with whether or not subs can be scum? also around when did you learn about my immortality...
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 2:40:08 GMT
Honestly if I hadn’t already given up on this game before the mason thing, now is the time. 4 of 11 players talking, 0 scum voted out, and it’s day before volo when we learn town is -2 pr nah no quitting, relax cyan's gonna be mafia and if not then we flip clem immediately afterwards (may want to do this even if cyan does flip) but there will be at least 1 hit before lylo
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 2:40:21 GMT
Honestly if I hadn’t already given up on this game before the mason thing, now is the time. 4 of 11 players talking, 0 scum voted out, and it’s day before volo when we learn town is -2 pr nah no quitting, relax cyan's gonna be mafia and if not then we flip clem immediately afterwards (may want to do this even if cyan does flip) but there will be at least 1 hit before lylo including lylo*
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 2:41:40 GMT
i'll try to check back into the thread periodically but ping me on discord or something if it's getting close to deadline and im dumb and forget bubidajeffery can you try to tell me who you think is scum, who you think is town & explain the reads when you get the chance? you're in the poe right now so anything helps
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Post by cyan on Jul 22, 2023 3:31:27 GMT
hi, i'm town bulletproof. i've been attacked by SK (n1) and now mafia (n4), i softed mason blatantly to try to get attacked by mafia and buy us another vote before lylo. i've done that, we're solving, mafia likely knows my role now so there's no point in not claiming here. now that no kill happened last night, we're at an odd # of players (11) and a vote brings us down to 9 instead of 8 with a nightkill so it's no longer lylo. asking all town to play this night and don't do what zeito did and resign, or if you want to do that then sub out kliff hold your vote i don't want to risk a premature hammer. masons can claim situationally here but only claim if it's beneficial to the solve, i wouldn't straight away hold the fucking phone, if SK gets one-shot abilities of town and maf pr's how did pisxel die n1 Ye we should def vote cyan now then do it???
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Post by cyan on Jul 22, 2023 3:32:16 GMT
anyway i forgot how the rest of this game goes but i think we can just all agree that clouds was the shot target
time to read up on the rest of the thread because this is not a good look for me
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 3:33:32 GMT
hi, i'm town bulletproof. i've been attacked by SK (n1) and now mafia (n4), i softed mason blatantly to try to get attacked by mafia and buy us another vote before lylo. i've done that, we're solving, mafia likely knows my role now so there's no point in not claiming here. now that no kill happened last night, we're at an odd # of players (11) and a vote brings us down to 9 instead of 8 with a nightkill so it's no longer lylo. asking all town to play this night and don't do what zeito did and resign, or if you want to do that then sub out kliff hold your vote i don't want to risk a premature hammer. masons can claim situationally here but only claim if it's beneficial to the solve, i wouldn't straight away hold the fucking phone, if SK gets one-shot abilities of town and maf pr's how did pisxel die n1 i have no idea, either it becomes an active ability due to it being 1-shot instead of a passive or hosterror. probably the former?
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Post by cyan on Jul 22, 2023 3:41:46 GMT
okay um i read just today's posts after eating lunch (starting from where mmib says R++ guy died and it's d2?? but the previous night was n3??) and the first thing my brain registers is that clouds and kliff are solving for scumteams on the topic of clouds i'm not sure whether i like them because they're the one singlehandedly keeping the thread alive or because they look like they're actually attempting to logically solve (those are some detailed reads on everyone and lengthy poe of who's partnered and not). The vibe is that they control the entire thread with a super big influence on others reads, probably townie but could be scum influence (winsy mentioned a thought vv similar to this but just cut it off with "Some of it doesn't add up" and didn't refer back to it) kliff's kinda just pingponging off clouds reads so like wild take clouds is probably townie but kliff has a "decent" chance of being scum or both are scum. Winsy is apparantly a slot people do not like, along with clems. most of winsy's today posts are votecounts and game role info. what the hell am i supposed to do with this? ppl are talking and you're just "hehe votecount" from what i vaguely remember of skimming through certain posts winsy apparently got hated on for starting the conversation…? somebody explain i wanna say "nai or sl" but i'm in no position to do that because i, myself has basically done nothing Clems is just naturally scummy and looks scummy every game that i've played with them and afaik cyan's opinion on clem has just been him barking "CLEMS OPENWOLFING CLEMS OPENWOLFING" well the mmib votecount on page 29 at the very top shows them crossed. i do not know the context for this but wtf? i do not get good vibes from either of these two. this is pretty shit phrasing but "don't read clems for BEING CLEMS read clems for the shit they do in regard to the fact that they are clems" the one bubida/jeff post of importance is "it just looks like scum has been nk’ing all of the aggressive/active players thus far with the exception of clouds" and "I don’t see the rationale of winsy wanting to shift off of his read today out of fear that he will be dogpiled tho that seems pretty stupid to me." kinda townie? elaborate on the nka pls ty :3 idk about winsy's specific read shift but from a nameless perspective someone shifting off a read they made the previous day because they think they will be killed for it is pretty scummy- the 2 types of people who fear death are town pr and scum and winsy doesn't read town pr at all "Hope this isn't too much of an early defeatism, honestly I think it's fairly obvious I'm town because I'm getting pushed by like 5 people now. Huge shame fingerlings was VT, didn't expect that and it is a big problem for the game. If you do vote me, good luck in VoLo." - zeito i have read ONE post from this guy and they are already radiating scum. why is your day introduction "hope i don't look defeatist since i'm town because people hate me. damn my cw died. damn my cw was town" like clearly you've been paying attention if you its pre volo or something + 5 people are pushing you and yet thats all you gotta say?! ok bye update me on anything that i may have misunderstood and therefore misread okay this is apparently a slot i missed the first time but i think it's bold of someone to go "the townleader might be scum" so high chance holo is town here. i was gonna think mason but with the accidental no-masons thing i think that's off the table may need to reconsider the winsy slot because in retrospect a lot of the passivity does kinda show and they've done a good job casing that slot if i have ddlc/cyan flipped or something that's bad so i'm gonna hit the brakes for now, i want both to speak. cyan declaring a "cross of ddlc/zeito" means one of cyan/ddlc is gonna flip scum, at minimum yeah and guess which one Vote: ddlcfan69though i do wanna know more about your ddlc townread now because a read-by-team thing is kinda weird cross aside i think ddlc's all talk no action approach this game speaks for itself
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 3:56:20 GMT
cyan --> winsy --> clem or winsy --> cyan --> clem are the paths i'm advocating for here and we can reevaluate based on the likely 2/3 minimum hits, sound good? any objections? if not then sheep me @ all afk town, i'm confirmed town by mechanics, ty
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Post by kliff on Jul 22, 2023 4:02:36 GMT
and there weren't even real masons bro what is this I just never seen something like this, I suppose its creative of you.
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 4:05:46 GMT
i was desperate to get attacked lmao i wanted 1 more vote before lylo, pretty sure we were cooked if we didn't get it
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Post by kliff on Jul 22, 2023 4:11:38 GMT
I think Clem/cyan has a decent chance of being s/s. Also feeling like there is a lurker scum in typicalbastard / holocryptid. They both need to talk more, Well everyone should talk more.
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Post by kliff on Jul 22, 2023 4:25:32 GMT
slight lean on clouds for getting on but pulling off later. fingerlings and ddlcfan69 should claim here what about claiming? I'm predicting vt 'claims' regardless of role except being the real pr which just baits the kill while doing nothing, also a vt 'claim' What do you expect, ddlc/fing going, "Oh yes, I'm Mafia Goon, oh no you got me! I'm so really sad!" like what do you expect from them right there Now that I look at this, could be a bad attempted at distancing. i retract my statement about clemens needing to be subbed maybe they're just dumb AND scumI think its abnormal how the Cyan v Clem shenanigans just died off with out either party necessarily trying to find closure. Cyan did say some stuff but it hard to say since they don't seemed to have much of a resolve as I would hope. I think Cyan just put clem to the side and focus on another scumpool and they didn't even end up voting yesterday. and Clem is just "open wolfing" I suppose.
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Post by iavh on Jul 22, 2023 4:25:49 GMT
Well who’s going to die Me or cyan The question is How have I survived so long lmao
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 4:31:48 GMT
if i have ddlc/cyan flipped or something that's bad so i'm gonna hit the brakes for now, i want both to speak. cyan declaring a "cross of ddlc/zeito" means one of cyan/ddlc is gonna flip scum, at minimum yeah and guess which one Vote: ddlcfan69though i do wanna know more about your ddlc townread now because a read-by-team thing is kinda weird cross aside i think ddlc's all talk no action approach this game speaks for itself there's kind of a range of town/scumpoints for him right like, to name a couple + appears to be actively involved in viewing who's on thread and making gutsy reads based on it that pounce in a way that you wouldn't expect scum to (ex. with zeito i can easily see him thinking he "caught him" as an authentic town thought regardless of zeito's alignment, like he backed his comment up pretty quickly and it just checks out to me) - shows up at convenient times and hangs around like he's just watching chaos unfold which is not a good look, kinda just hops on the wagon he feels like but a lot of my read isn't based on ddlc's play itself, though that's a small part of it. it's important to consider how dead the game was last phase and that sort of thing typically leads to v/v wagon builds just cause nobody cares and scum can do whatever they want, no need to bus in those situations. ddlc was the counterwagon to zeito there and it built and just hovered there being nearly on plur while barely anyone voted. zeito literally went over to 3 votes while ddlc ended on 2. i don't think any mafia team worth anything is gonna let a wagon on a teammate get that close to going over without at least trying to shake things up with some other votes. it has all the signs of being v/v wagons, and i think winsy is scum so him hopping on ddlc there and doing weird tmi stuff with the "people on the zeito wagon look bad" kinda furthered that for me this isn't a hill i'll die on, but i'm never voting ddlc this phase so you're better off just voting winsy and i'll look back into ddlc later in light of new info
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 4:32:34 GMT
Well who’s going to die Me or cyan The question is How have I survived so long lmao how many more days of openwolfing do you want to have? i can send you over today if you've had enough
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Post by iavh on Jul 22, 2023 4:33:09 GMT
Hahahahah die cyan vote cyan I’m. Not. Dumb. Nor. Am. I. Scum.
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Post by kliff on Jul 22, 2023 4:34:02 GMT
cross aside i think ddlc's all talk no action approach this game speaks for itself I'm curious though, If ddlc is a wolf then who is their likely partner. You should be able to give 1 name.
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Post by iavh on Jul 22, 2023 4:34:48 GMT
Well who’s going to die Me or cyan The question is How have I survived so long lmao how many more days of openwolfing do you want to have? i can send you over today if you've had enough Well No I’m staying alive and tryharding volo to only be voted out and lose and get that sweet sweet 1 point
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 4:35:00 GMT
unvote Cyan Talon
not sure if we're at L-1 yet but just giving cyan time to breathe first in case we're already near hammer
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Post by iavh on Jul 22, 2023 4:35:14 GMT
cross aside i think ddlc's all talk no action approach this game speaks for itself I'm curious though, If ddlc is a wolf then who is their likely partner. You should be able to give 1 name. *puts me no matter what*
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 4:35:25 GMT
how many more days of openwolfing do you want to have? i can send you over today if you've had enough Well No I’m staying alive and tryharding volo to only be voted out and lose and get that sweet sweet 1 point best of luck
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 4:35:56 GMT
respectfully i'm just trying to solve around you cause your flip doesn't do jack for game progress
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 4:37:29 GMT
that's why i have you going like, third in the poe voting chain right now
if by some miracle you're town, feel free to try and come to a solve so we don't lose
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Post by Clouds on Jul 22, 2023 4:38:09 GMT
though i take it you've given up a couple nights ago and are just pure openwolfing so yeah it's fine
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