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Post by holocryptid on Jul 26, 2023 4:01:04 GMT
this wallpost playstyle is not good for my fingers bye
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Post by Clouds on Jul 26, 2023 4:15:43 GMT
hi, welcome to catch you up real quick, i'm confirmed town by mechanics (i was bulletproof & attacked twice, once by SK and mafia), we just voted out cyan and there's 3 mafia left now, 9 players ericadud's slot is pretty townie, wallape's is as well, clem's looking like the best vote today but winsy and ddlc are considerations too. your slot is one that i think can fit into some scumteams nicely so it'd be cool if you can give us your thoughts after reading as much of the game as you can wait who was sk? sk was pisxel who died n1 to mafia kill |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 26, 2023 4:27:21 GMT
if all the major wagons were town here then we were just fucked on d2 tbh they were all town, so now what do you get from this? i think in these sort of situations you get scum trying to place themselves on different wagons when possible. so i think it's worth noting that ddlc is on zeito late here, clem is sitting on cyan by himself and winsy's on the wagon that cyan hopped on. i need to see if cyan was the one who shifted plur here cause i think it's somewhat unlikely that cyan hops on the wagon that another partner is on (winsy) when that's the wagon that's gonna misflip a villager? leaving 2 scum in a murky spot, of course this doesn't hold up if cyan wasn't the one to shift plur wallape also can you let me know if you want a winsy vote over clem here? i'm wavering and finding myself more on the fence than ever, second opinions would be good (and it helps me with your alignment so if you're mafia choose wisely !_!) |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 26, 2023 4:44:58 GMT
clouds can i have some opinions on zeito and their cw (suddenly forgot who this was and i can't find the page on which it occured) on the day zeito got killed? feels like that was important as zeito was one of the "bad" slots in addition to winsy clems etc so to break this down by individual: - cyan's reaction to the zeito wagon was to say it was bad and everything (large part of why i sr'd cyan, there were very few reasons to tr zeito so that was tmi-based) and the interesting thing is you'd think they'd go from here to voting ddlc, the counterwagon they sr'd... except then they didn't? they didn't vote ddlc at all there and the vote ended with [me, wallape, kliff] on zeito and [zeito, winsy] on ddlc. this could be a reason to suggest ddlc is a cyan partner, but i'm not entirely sold on that yet cause i feel like in those cases where nobody cares about the vote, mafia's more likely to let t/t wagons sit there while doing nothing and that's exactly what cyan did despite voting every other night. does it make ddlc a possible poe vote, yeah for sure it's one of the reasons - winsy's reaction to the zeito wagon was concerning, they said the previous zeito wagon from the day before "looked the worst" cause of the people on it, but those people were me, a dead townie fingerlings, and ddlc. then they voted ddlc against the lead wagon, which could be for image too. the main reason i have some trouble viewing this thought process from winsy as legitimate is cause even though he could've seen a wagon with two players he sr'd on it (me and ddlc, as he stated) and said "yeah that looks bad cause my srs are on it", it's just as easy to fabricate that with fake srs you've been making in the thread. winsy also seemed to think plur was on ddlc here which is worth noting - clem didn't vote here at all which is also not a good look - jeffery also spoke about questioning the existence of a zeito wagon, saying he didn't know what zeito's done to warrant the srs he's getting... then also didn't vote - wallape was on zeito with me and also making reads like "zeito/winsy unpartnered so if we flip zeito scum, winsy town" which shows me he's thinking about the future implications of the vote beyond surface level - ddlc didn't even get on to further secure plur on zeito and i have no idea why aside from the realistic possibility that he just afk'd, but he was already angled to have a justified vote on zeito so there's no reason for s!ddlc not to preserve there and this makes me think he's kinda townie i think that's everything relevant and worth diving into with that day's vc, nobody else did anything that exciting |
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Post by pkq on Jul 26, 2023 4:52:00 GMT
sorry i was completely nonexistent here yesterday winsy more passive than ever. pov you're in a pov list and you go "ok ig i come back if i'm not dead", "clouds wants mvp wow", "chats dead" "Odds are against us, also something to consider is scum letting cyan die bcs they know that the next two flips in Poe leads to scum win" - winsy wasn't cyan deathday like pre volo or actual volo?? wouldn't scum rather get their win instantly?? why bother killing cyan?? winsy says next two flips = scum win but then proceeds to say it's themselves and clems as these 2 slots possible tmi of clems being town and winsy trying to shove themselves into a more townie position if winsy's not scum clems can definitely go for not having said anything of importance + cyan did this really lazy openwolf read on clems clems is only town in the case that cyan picked an lhf slot to push and scum cyan doesn't seem like he'd go for misvoting lhf townies was it a fucked up bus ?? (basing clems scumminess off cyan instead of clem's speech bc i can't read a guy who doesn't do things,,) yeah theres been like 30 mentions of "at least one of winsy and clems scum" question is who dies first pkq just woke up 2 seconds ago (pisx was sk, spiderz was town rber, and a bunch of vts died- aka fingerlings zeito kliff…? think theres some other deaths i mightve missed) ddlc woke up a while ago went back to sleep and woke up 2 seconds ago as well (do more shit) however cyan quoted "if i have ddlc/cyan flipped or something that's bad so i'm gonna hit the brakes for now, i want both to speak. cyan declaring a "cross of ddlc/zeito" means one of cyan/ddlc is gonna flip scum, at minimum" < this from clouds at some point and then immediately voted ddlc this is giving ddlc hard town vibes OR ddlc better scum death vibes and i am very conflicted on this i want jeff to come back rn and elaborate on that nka thing he said a while ago bc i still havent seen him do that clouds can i have some opinions on zeito and their cw (suddenly forgot who this was and i can't find the page on which it occured) on the day zeito got killed? feels like that was important as zeito was one of the "bad" slots in addition to winsy clems etc also i don't know if i think wape is townie because my brain keeps confusing wape with kliff (similar pfp colors) or if their posts are actually useful and contributing (even if it's replying to clouds 20 times) (tldr winsy vs clems + pkq ddlc jeff wake up pls) I am trying to but it is hard out here |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 26, 2023 5:23:53 GMT
honestly pkq don't be afraid of saying things that you think have a chance of being wrong, it's better to just relay whatever thoughts you have and your alignment will start to become more evident later
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Post by iavh on Jul 26, 2023 5:28:21 GMT
thing is
I'm just going to claim vt and die here
so
goodbye, I'm gonna go take a nap
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Post by pkq on Jul 26, 2023 5:33:48 GMT
honestly pkq don't be afraid of saying things that you think have a chance of being wrong, it's better to just relay whatever thoughts you have and your alignment will start to become more evident later True and I should also asked when is dead line. |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 26, 2023 5:49:59 GMT
thing is I'm just going to claim vt and die here so goodbye, I'm gonna go take a nap wait no, claim mason |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 26, 2023 5:50:10 GMT
honestly pkq don't be afraid of saying things that you think have a chance of being wrong, it's better to just relay whatever thoughts you have and your alignment will start to become more evident later True and I should also asked when is dead line. in about 13 hours |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 26, 2023 9:15:24 GMT
vote ClemenstheLemon
cya
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Post by Clouds on Jul 26, 2023 10:41:20 GMT
vote Winsy Tinsy
just kidding lol! sheep me here i'll take the blame if wrong, spent a while reading and i'd rather do this first
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Post by Clouds on Jul 26, 2023 10:47:40 GMT
vote ClemenstheLemon
peak boredom hours. fr though there's a comment from cyan to clem where they're like "rest assured even if you claim pr you're still not surviving" and it read a bit more t/s to me
and a bunch of other stuff about the way they interact with clem's slot that is giving me cold feet. just impossible to justify keeping clem around here and there's still a decent chance he flips scum so yeah
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Post by winsytinsy on Jul 26, 2023 11:37:56 GMT
sorry i was completely nonexistent here yesterday winsy more passive than ever. pov you're in a pov list and you go "ok ig i come back if i'm not dead", "clouds wants mvp wow", "chats dead" "Odds are against us, also something to consider is scum letting cyan die bcs they know that the next two flips in Poe leads to scum win" - winsy wasn't cyan deathday like pre volo or actual volo?? wouldn't scum rather get their win instantly?? why bother killing cyan?? winsy says next two flips = scum win but then proceeds to say it's themselves and clems as these 2 slots possible tmi of clems being town and winsy trying to shove themselves into a more townie position if winsy's not scum clems can definitely go for not having said anything of importance + cyan did this really lazy openwolf read on clems clems is only town in the case that cyan picked an lhf slot to push and scum cyan doesn't seem like he'd go for misvoting lhf townies was it a fucked up bus ?? (basing clems scumminess off cyan instead of clem's speech bc i can't read a guy who doesn't do things,,) yeah theres been like 30 mentions of "at least one of winsy and clems scum" question is who dies first pkq just woke up 2 seconds ago (pisx was sk, spiderz was town rber, and a bunch of vts died- aka fingerlings zeito kliff…? think theres some other deaths i mightve missed) ddlc woke up a while ago went back to sleep and woke up 2 seconds ago as well (do more shit) however cyan quoted "if i have ddlc/cyan flipped or something that's bad so i'm gonna hit the brakes for now, i want both to speak. cyan declaring a "cross of ddlc/zeito" means one of cyan/ddlc is gonna flip scum, at minimum" < this from clouds at some point and then immediately voted ddlc this is giving ddlc hard town vibes OR ddlc better scum death vibes and i am very conflicted on this i want jeff to come back rn and elaborate on that nka thing he said a while ago bc i still havent seen him do that clouds can i have some opinions on zeito and their cw (suddenly forgot who this was and i can't find the page on which it occured) on the day zeito got killed? feels like that was important as zeito was one of the "bad" slots in addition to winsy clems etc also i don't know if i think wape is townie because my brain keeps confusing wape with kliff (similar pfp colors) or if their posts are actually useful and contributing (even if it's replying to clouds 20 times) (tldr winsy vs clems + pkq ddlc jeff wake up pls) I’m scummy for talking in a chat where no one is talking?? Literally came on bcs I was bored and saw I was still the last person to post smh |
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Post by wallape on Jul 26, 2023 14:58:55 GMT
Odds are against us, also something to consider is scum letting cyan die bcs they know that the next two flips in Poe leads to scum win who's scum in this world? youre voting clems rn so feels like a weird post to make |
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Post by wallape on Jul 26, 2023 15:28:38 GMT
yeah i want to vote ddlc much much more than either winsy/clems but i dont think there's anyone else around to flip plur anyways
between clems and winsy tho id vote clems, in my gut i think winsy is still town there's a few recent posts that come off as correctly nailing how i feel + they were like asking for flip in twilight over and over again which feels more town indicative
sel
clems has scum potential just that one emotional post making me doubt myself
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Post by wallape on Jul 26, 2023 15:31:52 GMT
vote ddlc
if someone is here and wants to shift plur?
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Post by wallape on Jul 26, 2023 15:34:26 GMT
that holo post is actually terrible looking back at it wtf
esp in the world that clem/winsy are both town which i still think is a valid world
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Post by winsytinsy on Jul 26, 2023 16:54:06 GMT
honestly pkq don't be afraid of saying things that you think have a chance of being wrong, it's better to just relay whatever thoughts you have and your alignment will start to become more evident later True and I should also asked when is dead line. I think tonight? |
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Post by winsytinsy on Jul 26, 2023 16:56:28 GMT
Odds are against us, also something to consider is scum letting cyan die bcs they know that the next two flips in Poe leads to scum win who's scum in this world? youre voting clems rn so feels like a weird post to make Idk it’s just like Clemens flipping town means every active player is gonna want my head, which means we lose from my pov if Clems flips green That being said I really don’t think Clem flips green here, it’s a 85/15 |
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Post by winsytinsy on Jul 26, 2023 17:17:32 GMT
Idk even reading it back it sounds just bad, but I don't know how to convey the message without looking bad
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Post by bubidajeffery on Jul 26, 2023 21:18:38 GMT
hey guys im sorry forums are really not my thing. i also have no idea to format these posts so sorry about that as well in advance. i'm pressed for time right now so i'll try to read more into interactions themselves hopefully another day but right now im just kinda looking at isos (finally figured out how they work) and looking at stuff from that. pls ping me on disc if i forget about the forum again i couldn't fucking get this message below the clouds quote here i will run through thoughts on people ig first off I honestly thought kliff was scummy overall since i just read through his stuff and the vast majority of it just seemed to be asking a lot of questions to people and it looks like earlier on he avoided really saying anything bad about cyan until a post that clouds made / people starting reading cyan more. then he kinda tunneled into this idea of clems/cyan and just started agreeing w things without reasonings which i didn't like but he's dead now so w/e. clouds - obviously is townie to me since he's bp and i don't think anyone is wanting to contend that clems - clems is honestly the hardest person to read in any game because like at least 70% of what he does is meme and filler. it also doesn't help that he has stated that he openwolfs every game but yeah. i would say mostly null to me with a slight lean to scummy but i would prefer him not to be present in a LYLO because of how confusing he is overall. he seemed to not like cyan and want him gone but then kinda backpedaled by mentioning how a misvote leads to lylo and it's just all v weird to me. ericadud/termsofservice/fame - ericadud hasn't said anything and termsofservice only really asked for flips/claims which is nai to me. i'd say that fame looked very townie from when they were in the game tho so id lean town here as well. a lot of fame's posts have reads/questions based on reasoning that follows pretty logical trains of thought. also not being afraid to voice opinions contrary to the current wagons i.e. talking about how the neo wagon and how people hopped on it was bad. pkq/tb - honestly i kinda get town vibes from this slot even though there's minimal substance. with tb it's really just him asking what to read because he doesn't want to read everything which i think is fair and pretty nai, and then PKQ kinda just feels clueless and is trying to grasp the game while also not really wanting to read everything. i do think pkq being more passive is a bit weird but not inherently scummy as a sub to 40ish pages wape - most of his posts are smaller which is actually very nice for digestion purposes. i get mixed vibes from his posts though so im just gonna put him null overall. i like some of the reads / reasonings on the reads (and again reading slots opposite of what the populace thinks) such as his tl on winsy and tring fingerlings earlier. but there's some stuff that definitely rubs me the wrong way like how kliff and wape kinda just vote neo on a "fuck it" mentality and how he's gone from disagreeing on a cyan/clems svs, to then agreeing, to now agreeing but also not wanting to vote winsy here winsy - winsy is a weird slot because i know he caught a bunch of flak for his d1 posts which i personally dont see the issue with. i already voiced my thoughts on him a bit but i just don't like how he wants to vote off clems but then also doesn't out of the fear of what will happen if he flips town. like you should just be confident in what you think, the clems thing as a whole is fair but i just don't really like how he presented it (which he acknowledges). also there's a "if we lose then we deserve it" post before his cyan vote which feels fake but maybe im wrong lol. holocryptid - honestly big mood that he subbed in and then did not post for 8 days straight mad respect. but for real it's interesting since they have two larger posts to look at. i agree with his initial point about kliff pingponging but he kinda backed off of the read that kliff could be scum and maybe even partners with clouds, which imo feels suspicious with an attempted clouds nk into a kliff nk. they've made efforts on some ppl which is good but then also includes random unneeded stuff like "pkq just woke up 2 seconds ago" etc which rubs me the wrong way. scumlean ddlc - goat. his activity seems to be sporadic, he's probably null to me with a slight lean to towniness. even tho zeito was town i feel like him trying to push a cfd off of fingerlings put himself out there when he didn't have to which i like. it is a bit odd how it feels like he's been fixated with cyan all game lol but i feel like that is something that he would do. other than that i don't feel like anything is really scummy besides just not being around much which can also be applied to like half the pl and his occasional shitposting which he does all the time TLDR i lean town for clouds ericadud and pkq, null on ddlc and wape , and lean scum for winsy clems and holocryptid i think that's everyone but lmk if i missed a slot. also holocryptid i don't know what nka even means lmao but i will explain if you tell me what it means anyways not sure if its 16+ hours into twilight or if mmib just meant tonight's midnight so ill going to vote clemens because i feel like keeping him around is not beneficial regardless of if his flip is town or scum esp if we misvote here into a lylo(?) w him(though i think he is more likely to flip scum over town) i'll try to check back into the thread periodically but ping me on discord or something if it's getting close to deadline and im dumb and forget can you try to tell me who you think is scum, who you think is town & explain the reads when you get the chance? you're in the poe right now so anything helps |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 26, 2023 22:07:55 GMT
i think mmib means midnight on the 27th he just wrote 26th
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Post by winsytinsy on Jul 26, 2023 22:34:58 GMT
Clouds would love to hear your thoughts on tmrw vote if Clem scum or Clem town
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Post by Clouds on Jul 26, 2023 22:35:47 GMT
i think its kliff/zeito or ddlc/cyan im fine with leaving holo/fame slot/crespo slot/clouds as town tentatively, bit paranoid about fame slot not being nkd despite the uni-tr but ill roll with it winsy i still feel is town but idk i could be wrong on him i guess i wanna resolve clem but he's just  ?? Been considering shifting to Zeito or cyan, bcs I liked holocrypyids post about not reading Clems for how they play, so maybe not the vote before Volo? thanks for the update bubidajeffery, 1 thing i want to mention though is that i don't think winsy/holocryptid is a likely pairing cause of posts like this you don't typically see mafia saying "i'll move off [controversial slot] cause [mafia partner]'s post about them is good", it's just not the natural line of thought for teammates and does the opposite of distance. this post is honestly kinda problematic to me in general cause idk why they're using someone else's post to justify moving off of clem here - leaning on other reads is fine sometimes but only when you trust that the person is town enough to follow it, and i don't think winsy had previously expressed that about holo so why is that significant enough to make him reconsider the clem vote? |
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