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Post by Clouds on Jul 28, 2023 23:48:41 GMT
hi yeah i'm here just super disappointed that it's just us and nobody else is even checking thread
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Post by winsytinsy on Jul 29, 2023 0:03:46 GMT
Me too clouds
Me too…
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 0:43:39 GMT
ddlc, holocryptid, jeffery, pkq the four of you should share who you sr the most and who you tr the most
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 0:55:21 GMT
i think the solve is one of these three: - holocryptid + ddlc - ddlc + pkq - holocryptid + pkq |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 0:56:16 GMT
wallape died sr'ing both ddlc & holocryptid, decent odds of a hit in there. pkq is my top slot for a lurker scum by far, kliff also died saying a lurker scum in pkq/holocryptid
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 2:29:25 GMT
i still don't know about ddlc some things don't add up so maybe this is off
pretty awful mafia play if both clem and ddlc ended day 1 on their partner cyan, i mean i guess it'd be good in the rearview for moments like this but do you truly want to flip cyan there who's positioned for more of a deepwolf run? clem seems like the much more likely bus candidate
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 29, 2023 3:48:54 GMT
SOOOON
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 29, 2023 3:54:19 GMT
I’m still town uhh now I look even worse rip wallape but eyem being framejobbbed im not sure if winsy is scum or not but I will be back will read so much content when I get off work and get on laptop soooon wahoo . I will be back watch this drive v sooon  |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 29, 2023 4:38:26 GMT
ok frens watch this drive
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 29, 2023 5:01:00 GMT
sorry i was completely nonexistent here yesterday winsy more passive than ever. pov you're in a pov list and you go "ok ig i come back if i'm not dead", "clouds wants mvp wow", "chats dead" "Odds are against us, also something to consider is scum letting cyan die bcs they know that the next two flips in Poe leads to scum win" - winsy wasn't cyan deathday like pre volo or actual volo?? wouldn't scum rather get their win instantly?? why bother killing cyan?? winsy says next two flips = scum win but then proceeds to say it's themselves and clems as these 2 slots possible tmi of clems being town and winsy trying to shove themselves into a more townie position if winsy's not scum clems can definitely go for not having said anything of importance + cyan did this really lazy openwolf read on clems clems is only town in the case that cyan picked an lhf slot to push and scum cyan doesn't seem like he'd go for misvoting lhf townies was it a fucked up bus ?? (basing clems scumminess off cyan instead of clem's speech bc i can't read a guy who doesn't do things,,) yeah theres been like 30 mentions of "at least one of winsy and clems scum" question is who dies first pkq just woke up 2 seconds ago (pisx was sk, spiderz was town rber, and a bunch of vts died- aka fingerlings zeito kliff…? think theres some other deaths i mightve missed) ddlc woke up a while ago went back to sleep and woke up 2 seconds ago as well (do more shit) however cyan quoted "if i have ddlc/cyan flipped or something that's bad so i'm gonna hit the brakes for now, i want both to speak. cyan declaring a "cross of ddlc/zeito" means one of cyan/ddlc is gonna flip scum, at minimum" < this from clouds at some point and then immediately voted ddlc this is giving ddlc hard town vibes OR ddlc better scum death vibes and i am very conflicted on this i want jeff to come back rn and elaborate on that nka thing he said a while ago bc i still havent seen him do that clouds can i have some opinions on zeito and their cw (suddenly forgot who this was and i can't find the page on which it occured) on the day zeito got killed? feels like that was important as zeito was one of the "bad" slots in additn to winsy clems etc also i don't know if i think wape is townie because my brain keeps confusing wape with kliff (similar pfp colors) or if their posts are actually useful and contributing (even if it's replying to clouds 20 times) (tldr winsy vs clems + pkq ddlc jeff wake up pls) First of all holo is my immediate soulread based on this post alone because they are protecting clems slot kinda by not mentioning them very much and focusing on me and winsy. they dig into all of the potential votes yday except for clem and were pushing for winsy harder while still mentioning clems blatant scumnminess. I think holo is who killed wallape because it doesnt seem like winsy would have any reason to kill wallape if his plan was too push me the next day. From them mentioning jeffery and pkq for only a sentence each makes me think they are likelier scum then winsy it seems like they are giving a softball question for jeff to respond too and having a positive helpful interaction with pkq for reasons. |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 29, 2023 5:31:50 GMT
some overarching thoughts here and hopefully others can chime in when they see this fame/termsofservice/ericadud
- desperate for this slot to get a sub who's active cause it's still fairly town in my eyes due to fame's posting but there's been nothing here for ages - think this slot is alive cause it's not a threat to solve anything so i don't feel a need to tinfoil it here. for s!cyan to come in pushing s!fame in their first game on here so strongly when nobody else was even looking into sr'ing this slot... i just don't see it
crespo/bubidajeffery
- while voting clem himself, crespo questioned cyan's read on clem and kinda raised a counterpoint against it which is somewhat weird to piece together as a s/s/s interaction, but i think it's interesting that he was pushing him here all while saying he thought clem played like he'd been doing as either alignment
- crespo's lead push was really just clem which is nai at best but worth making a note of
- jeffery came in with 1 wallpost full of reads that's ok. i think he does a good job backing up reads with reasoning here at least and a paragraph after kliff flipped explaining that he thought kliff was scummy was made that i kinda believe is real as opposed to for retroactive credit, cause he explained why he was sus of kliff fairly well
- overall feeling alright about this slot now that i've reviewed things, more based off of crespo than jeffery and crespo's interactions with cyan/clem
ddlc - it's extremely weird and counterproductive to team momentum to put fos on clem/cyan for bussing each other if those are both your teammates, like you're setting the other up for failure by doing this off of a play they're trying to make to improve their own image. could he have wanted to be the first to the chase here yeah sure i guess so - kills look bad for him though ngl, just not sure if it's a frame job at all. like wallape dying for sure meant giving a good reread of ddlc/holo, but also doesn't have a ton of merit to it cause i'm sure mafia knew i was never voting wallape and they were also one of the more active town players - defending fingerlings the way he did was questionable, he did do it by saying he likes fingerlings' read post and doubled down on cyan being scum which on one hand looks good and on the other makes me wonder if ddlc's entire plan this game has been to hard distance from his teammates and push them into oblivion. except i don't think i really believe ddlc would grief that hard right now, his reads are just suspiciously accurate in recent days and when he does things like vote clem saying he "feels good about clem flipping scum" despite not having a lot of progression on clem's slot prior it looks rough - unsure why ddlc thought cyan's post asking him to claim was cyan's attempt at "pocketing him" that doesn't check out, that's not how you'd pocket someone. follows this up by making the cyan/clem read and saying they're bussing each other but then throttles a zeito vote instead of either of those two as a cw to fingerlings, zzz - i do still like him jumping at zeito prior to that for lurking without posting much, and so much of his focus has been around cyan/clem being teammates that you wouldn't think it's a partnership at a glance yet it can't be ruled out by any means - i did look back at a prior ddlc mafia game from last year's circuit and he did the same thing he's doing with winsy with someone named snackers, who was town i think, and buddied him all game until snackers eventually wound up voting with ddlc to secure a mafia win. said he was a snackers sheep etc all that junk hadudee/holocryptid
- so like holo's thoughts are still ok to me but i think it's unfair to say these are that hard of wallposts to brew up as scum. had "bad vibes" from both clem and cyan in their first wallpost, in part due to them being crossed with each other which i think is a fair thought and that's part of what made me dive into the s/s possibility as much as i did too. i do like that they're pursuing thoughts of concern about this cross at a time when mafia's in a pretty good position, kinda like w/ ddlc why would you break into your teammates like that? would've liked this more if holo tried voting one of them but they never used their vote once - don't understand why they were hesitant to say "nai or sl" on winsy cause "they hadn't done anything themselves" that strikes me as a bit weird, that doesn't mean you're not allowed to make reads - i like the read on cyan's instant vote on ddlc the day after cyan declared a cross between the two of zeito/ddlc, saying that ddlc is either hard town off that or the better scum flip. shows me that they thought about that beyond surface level - less relevant but wanted to add this anyways; there was this weird post where clem quoted aka and said "what did i just read" to aka saying holo was townier than winsy after barely posting and i think the way clem openwolfed makes it possible clem's thought process here was "wait no way aka is already townreading my partner holo more than a real town member" and then decided to just post based on that. fully aware this is somewhat of a reach, but when searching for reasoning for that post it seemed like a possibility, why else would clem react to it the way he did you know. i'll say the more likely case here is that clem was just shading aka's slot as he was already on the block as opposed to caring too much about the content of the post itself winsy- the way he was worried about clem flipping town and then getting voted after is hard to see from an s/s perspective, i'd say that looks good for winsy and could be a real thought - cyan hedged around winsy's slot often, so did clem. all clem basically said was "idk what winsy's doing" and cyan would kinda push winsy, then lean back, then push again, and then when i asked them what they thought of winsy now that some time has gone by they were kinda just like "i forgot to think about him", the interactions aren't that helpful and they're swingy enough that they wind up being nai overall honestly - there's this moment a while back where the votes are 2 on clem, 1 on ddlc, and 1 on winsy and then winsy responds to some wallape post saying he's considering shifting to zeito or cyan and unexplainably shifts to ddlc for no reason without justifying it whatsoever. at this point he's talking about being worried clem flips town and then everyone piles on him, ok sure. but then he says that he's shifting off of clem due to some post holo made about clem's playstyle being a bad indicator of his alignment here instead of the aforementioned fear, and jumps on ddlc instead of zeito or cyan, it's just a bad look. keeps naming clem as a safe vote the rest of the day and saying "maybe ddlc" as an alternative but he's on ddlc anyways here so - another point in winsy's favor against the winds here is that he did choose to vote cyan at a time when it would've been fairly easy to vote clems, the less deep wolf, and that's not the type of decision i'd expect a partner to both cyan/clem to make typicalbastard/pkq- eternal poe unless pkq does something to fix that - think this slot can flip mafia and tb's posts didn't inspire confidence at all Ya this is a fuckaton to read but ye i get how im in the poe and the "solves" because my only correct read so far has been that clem and cyan were just pushing each other the whole time but ye my progression for the read I didnt write out very clearly cuz I just was noticing patterns of clem and cyan ignore other peoples posts to just push each other but not seriously enough to feel they genuinely wanted the other to die, and when I saw the vote count at the time and they were chilling at the bottom of the screen on each other It felt sus too me.. I definetly dont feel like ive been buddying winsy besides the beginning and when he votes me rip I have let his slot cook because I do like playing games with people that im close to like winsy and jeffery but thats true when im town or scum lol snackers is also no different cuz he is one of my fave users. I will also say that me and cyan have never gotten along in mafia games he always used to tell people how bad I was and dicredit me openly in every game and i hated it hes ratty fatty but ye I think I would have always pushed him and im not suprised he tried to push me. I am null and still going to read more about winsy cuz on one hand it is possible winsy has just been killing all the active ppl every vote, and positioning himself as the loudest and towniest voice after cyan and clem flipped and he was on both of them but clem voting winsy makes me think otherwise but shrug. I plan to read winsys interqctions with clem and cyan at some point maybe tmrw tho cuz im getting tired but I think we should vote holo here! vote holo |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jul 29, 2023 5:39:24 GMT
Ill be back tmrw my vote isnt final I plan to be up bright and early to read thru the logs if i die i die tmrw that would be a misvote so I will be up as early as i can tmrw to read and solve b4 12 If tmrw is my last day I will tryhard at least once b4 i die dwww c: GN frens back tmrw!
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 7:18:29 GMT
yeah i'm not voting ddlc here
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 7:30:42 GMT
i guess it becomes did winsy make the comments about being afraid with what happens if clem flips town cause it was a genuine concern, or cause he was trying to justify voting someone other than clem, but idk it seems more likely to be the former
you're both pretty townie to me honestly in different ways now, but the night was only 12 hours or something and nobody else seems to be remembering this game exists so how was a kill agreed upon and submitted so fast lmao
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 7:31:27 GMT
i'm aiming for one of the lurker slots today that can flip anyways since i don't think you two are paired here ever. so i know at least 1 vote outside is good
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Post by pkq on Jul 29, 2023 8:15:52 GMT
I swear to god; I am on vacation. I am sorry that I am on and off from this game. I will get back to yall when I am sober.
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 8:56:49 GMT
the lack of winsy interactions with both flipped mafia is unnerving considering how present winsy has been this game
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 8:57:12 GMT
I swear to god; I am on vacation. I am sorry that I am on and off from this game. I will get back to yall when I am sober. how much time do you think is left in this night? |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 9:01:28 GMT
winsytinsy can you expand on something for me - there was a whole stretch where you were heavily suspicious of clem's slot, then wavered on the read cause you seemed afraid of clem flipping town (this just happened to be at a very convenient time when you jumped on a ddlc vote with zeito and started building that wagon despite saying you wanted to switch to 1 of zeito/cyan) and you cited holo's post as your reason for not wanting to vote clem. later on, you mention clem is a "safe vote" despite it seeming like you had a change of heart on clem's slot and were beginning to tr him a bit more. so why did you choose the ddlc route over 1 of zeito/cyan and also over your supposed safer vote in clem?
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 9:20:59 GMT
damn this solve is not easy with so little content but i'm trying
i'm not touching ericadud/bubidajeffery slots i've decided these are both town, ericadud's slot is the most town but jeffery's is second most
i have reservations about voting holocryptid still and i think the way cyan tr'd them and also expanded on a random mason read they had on them makes me think cyan was trying to deduce if this slot was a pr as opposed to it being a teammate
which means i'm voting in ddlc/winsy/pkq but who
1 of ddlc/winsy hits now that i think about it and piece everything together, i could just solve through that? or i take a chance on a lurker scum pkq, which seems probable
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 9:26:13 GMT
i think the solve is one of these three: - holocryptid + ddlc - ddlc + pkq - holocryptid + pkq this aged badly i don't think it's any of these anymore except maybe the second one |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 9:32:25 GMT
winsy/pkq team isn't a thing but i kinda want to solve through this, i think it hits 1 way?
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 10:03:50 GMT
vote Winsy Tinsy
feel bad if i'm wrong here but there's just too much shadiness when i look back over things, way too many posts come off as having tmi on how clem/cyan would flip, and certain things like you saying cyan wanted to vote you but voted ihbst instead when they never even explicitly said that they wanted to vote you... it's all a weird reach without much substance and i also just kinda believe ddlc at the moment so
it has dawned on me that i'm not sure anyone's gonna show up to switch plur here with me. if that's the case i have no choice but to make another vote that winsy will do, that is if winsy returns before deadline
mmib please light a fire under everyone or grab subs if possible
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 10:05:20 GMT
ddlc if you get back before deadline you'll need to shift here, plur is on yourself
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Post by Clouds on Jul 29, 2023 10:07:30 GMT
kills me to vote the single other active player in this game and i would've taken a shot at the likely lurker scum if i had a better idea who would flip there, but at the moment this feels like my best path forward and i'll regroup if this vote is a miss
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