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Post by kliff on Sept 5, 2023 12:28:02 GMT
for solving reasons as much as i hate to say it town has to work with mafia to find the cultrod before we all lose this game so while everyone makes reads and makes attempts to solve just keep in mind to say EVERYTHING BEFORE DYING because we need to find mafia after the cultrod is dealt with. please keep in mind that while making reads you label them as town-mafia-third party-cultrod. You are right about finding cultrod but, I feel like this is just a weird way to phrase it. everyone i vote is on grounds of being cultrod and if you happen to be mafia or a scummy solo then it still benefits town You are pushing strongly pushing this idea of solving cultrod at all cost. Maybe your the cultrod? Theory: Cuddz is Cultist GM all, weekends are not for PS stuff for me so I'll start reading once I'm at work tomorrow (hehe) I just did some skimming to make sure that Spiderz didn't vote me because that would've meant he was scum. TL Spiderz. I also made sure nobody else was voting me because I was READY to start some shit and make some enemies but I guess I have to do everything around here!By the way, my role is called Edjean's Influence and it makes whoever I vote die because everyone else votes that person too. Obviously since I can't vote myself I'll never die, plus my mom says I'm cool and cool guys live forever. Anyway, sorry not sorry but this is gonna happen Vote KliffThis got to be some total BS. 👎
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Post by Edjeanerations on Sept 5, 2023 12:28:03 GMT
It could work maybe later in the game(prob not). Its just more better to preserve the identify of Town PRs. yeah i can level with that, it's the one possible drawback i could think of -- if a tourist hypo went on the real mafia pgo and then that player didn't die, mafia would know they're not tourist the benefits seem to outweigh the potential downsides to me but if nobody wants to, we don't have to Yeah but in this specific scenario the targeting player could only be 3p (or I guess someone who got docced but meh, what are the odds?) so that wouldn't exactly be a bad thing if Mafia found them. Survivor should claim d1 since we know they're in the setup, so that would only leave SK, who either gets outed through Mafia acting townie or gets killed by Mafia. So then we would have SK > Mafia vote potentially or just a random SK death. Idk I'm liking the hypo idea more and more
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Post by Edjeanerations on Sept 5, 2023 12:34:24 GMT
clem what's my alignment? I don't really like this line fsr. I think Clem's response to it is good but asking this question is odd. Instead be like me and DECLARE you're town so the people all KNOW you're UNTOUCHABLE. But say it with so much CONFIDENCE that scum gets TERRIFIED of you and what you can do. Like this. Guys, this is going to be a big game for me. Not only am I going to find every scum and immediately execute them, whether it's day or night just because I'm that good (btw I'm not softing a nk role because this isn't a CS), but I am going to look DAMN good while doing it. At the same time all of you will cower in fear as you realize that I'm too damn powerful, and you'll try to kill me, but then you'll realize that the sheer size of my brain shields me from nightkills without the need for a doctor, who claims to be Macho even though the only Macho thing here is my noggin. Good riddance, fools.
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Post by Clouds on Sept 5, 2023 12:36:00 GMT
I've played this setup twice so I hate to burst your bubble but no voting has always been illegal. This is nothing more but a bluff. alright, wasn't aware of that
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Post by Clouds on Sept 5, 2023 12:37:56 GMT
clem what's my alignment? I don't really like this line fsr. I think Clem's response to it is good but asking this question is odd. Instead be like me and DECLARE you're town so the people all KNOW you're UNTOUCHABLE. But say it with so much CONFIDENCE that scum gets TERRIFIED of you and what you can do.
Like this. Guys, this is going to be a big game for me. Not only am I going to find every scum and immediately execute them, whether it's day or night just because I'm that good (btw I'm not softing a nk role because this isn't a CS), but I am going to look DAMN good while doing it. At the same time all of you will cower in fear as you realize that I'm too damn powerful, and you'll try to kill me, but then you'll realize that the sheer size of my brain shields me from nightkills without the need for a doctor, who claims to be Macho even though the only Macho thing here is my noggin. Good riddance, fools. we play different games, my friend. you should know that by now after how the oc went in asking clem that, i'm trying to see how much comfort he has in airing a read on me. nothing more, nothing less what he thinks of my alignment doesn't matter to me, it's his ease in relaying the read and how sound the logic is, or if it looks like he pulled it out of the sky
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Post by Clouds on Sept 5, 2023 12:39:43 GMT
ah maybe mafia pgo isn't passive looking at the description in the OP, if it's not then i don't think this works If you look at Mafia OS strongman and OS PGO, Its seems strongman is active, while PGO looks to be passive. As in the ability activates the first time someone targets them. it says it "passively kills those who target once per game" but i wasn't sure if the passivity referred to the action as a whole throughout the entire game, or the fact that kills *on a specific night* are passive as opposed to actively chosen
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Post by Clouds on Sept 5, 2023 12:40:19 GMT
yeah i can level with that, it's the one possible drawback i could think of -- if a tourist hypo went on the real mafia pgo and then that player didn't die, mafia would know they're not tourist the benefits seem to outweigh the potential downsides to me but if nobody wants to, we don't have to Yeah but in this specific scenario the targeting player could only be 3p (or I guess someone who got docced but meh, what are the odds?) so that wouldn't exactly be a bad thing if Mafia found them. Survivor should claim d1 since we know they're in the setup, so that would only leave SK, who either gets outed through Mafia acting townie or gets killed by Mafia. So then we would have SK > Mafia vote potentially or just a random SK death. Idk I'm liking the hypo idea more and moremy ideas are always the best
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Post by Edjeanerations on Sept 5, 2023 12:40:42 GMT
I think it's good that Clouds is looking at game from perspective of roles/mechanics since it makes it really difficult for Mafia to succeed when town is solving like that, not sure how efficient the hypo tourist claim suggestion is but I do think it's potentially a good sign for his slot regardless (?) Kliff was right to be weirded out by those coded read lists from Clem so I'm glad he picked up on that. PenguinD is fillering but that's not really a tell to his alignment IMO since he coasts as either alignment tbh. I like Fame's entrance here tbh, this and the post above. Not that I necessarily agree with it, but I like Fame's posts for a similar reason that they like Clouds posts. Noted.
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Post by Clouds on Sept 5, 2023 12:40:55 GMT
also yeah good point, why isn't survivor just claiming?
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Post by Clouds on Sept 5, 2023 12:44:25 GMT
I think it's good that Clouds is looking at game from perspective of roles/mechanics since it makes it really difficult for Mafia to succeed when town is solving like that, not sure how efficient the hypo tourist claim suggestion is but I do think it's potentially a good sign for his slot regardless (?) Kliff was right to be weirded out by those coded read lists from Clem so I'm glad he picked up on that. PenguinD is fillering but that's not really a tell to his alignment IMO since he coasts as either alignment tbh. I like Fame's entrance here tbh, this and the post above. Not that I necessarily agree with it, but I like Fame's posts for a similar reason that they like Clouds posts. Noted. so you don't agree that i've been looking towards mechanical ways to gain an advantage & solve, but you believe fame is doing exactly this, and you townread fame due to it? explain to me what's different about the way fame and i are both approaching this, and what makes fame more town to you so that i know you're not just throwing shade for the sake of shade
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Post by Clouds on Sept 5, 2023 12:46:41 GMT
GM all, weekends are not for PS stuff for me so I'll start reading once I'm at work tomorrow (hehe) I just did some skimming to make sure that Spiderz didn't vote me because that would've meant he was scum. TL Spiderz. I also made sure nobody else was voting me because I was READY to start some shit and make some enemies but I guess I have to do everything around here!By the way, my role is called Edjean's Influence and it makes whoever I vote die because everyone else votes that person too. Obviously since I can't vote myself I'll never die, plus my mom says I'm cool and cool guys live forever. Anyway, sorry not sorry but this is gonna happen Vote KliffThis got to be some total BS. 👎 i was gonna comment on it when i first saw it but figured it was a troll/in jest, if there's any sincerity to it then it sucks for sure yeah
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Post by Clouds on Sept 5, 2023 12:50:02 GMT
kliff thoughts? - everyone hypos a tourist action - if three nightkills, it implies a mafia pgo kill or a os vigilante kill in addition to the mafia kill and sk kill - it's unlikely vigilante will use their shot n1, so that makes a mafia pgo kill likely - review tourist hypos from there and see who's implicated by visits Well Vig is probably gonna use their shot n2, while PGO may not use their shot until they feel they may be threatened. I would assume 2 nks tonight Not that I'm against hypoing tourists though I think it would be nice to make hypoing an EOD thing, granted people have time. Gives the little scummy dummies less time to think yeah what i'm saying is i wasn't sure whether or not PGO had the option to "use a shot" or if it's passive throughout the game and the first instance of visitors get shot if it's the former it makes no sense to hypo, if it's the latter it does
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Sept 5, 2023 12:51:34 GMT
Damn
I kinda don’t gaf about Countdown rn oof
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Post by Clouds on Sept 5, 2023 12:51:59 GMT
everyone i vote is on grounds of being cultrod and if you happen to be mafia or a scummy solo then it still benefits town You are pushing strongly pushing this idea of solving cultrod at all cost. Maybe your the cultrod?Theory: Cuddz is Cultist that's a thought that crossed my mind too, but it seems almost too blatant, like surely cuddz knew how much attention that would draw to the possibility
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Post by Clouds on Sept 5, 2023 12:52:40 GMT
kliff thoughts? - everyone hypos a tourist action - if three nightkills, it implies a mafia pgo kill or a os vigilante kill in addition to the mafia kill and sk kill - it's unlikely vigilante will use their shot n1, so that makes a mafia pgo kill likely - review tourist hypos from there and see who's implicated by visits Well Vig is probably gonna use their shot n2, while PGO may not use their shot until they feel they may be threatened. I would assume 2 nks tonight Not that I'm against hypoing tourists though I think it would be nice to make hypoing an EOD thing, granted people have time. Gives the little scummy dummies less time to think what makes you think vig shoots n2?
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Sept 5, 2023 12:53:07 GMT
Woke up to the discord ping but I have to go to school play soon c:
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Post by Clouds on Sept 5, 2023 12:53:18 GMT
Damn I kinda don’t gaf about Countdown rn oof just make it easy for me, what's your alignment?
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Sept 5, 2023 12:54:23 GMT
Damn I kinda don’t gaf about Countdown rn oof just make it easy for me, what's your alignment? I’m Le’Tourist
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Post by Clouds on Sept 5, 2023 12:56:59 GMT
just make it easy for me, what's your alignment? I’m Le’Tourist man i said alignment...
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Post by iavh on Sept 5, 2023 13:04:05 GMT
yalls just gonna stand there and watch me die to a wagon tos was on?
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Post by iavh on Sept 5, 2023 13:04:20 GMT
I will remember this
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Post by MyanMario on Sept 5, 2023 13:05:35 GMT
I EXIST HELLO hc town I’ll read up in like an hour just announcing my prescnece
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Post by iavh on Sept 5, 2023 13:09:21 GMT
*presence
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Post by iavh on Sept 5, 2023 13:10:03 GMT
just make it easy for me, what's your alignment? I’m Le’Tourist ah yes, Le'Tourist, the best alignment of them all
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Post by Fame on Sept 5, 2023 13:52:33 GMT
i've felt somewhere in the range of unsure --> slight scumlean on your slot in every game i've played with you, including this one what exactly do you think i should understand about your playstyle? That I always improve after D1. Just wanted to say I hate this post & really hate the reasoning you gave for having a FOS on Clouds. It's no one else's responsibility to make your alignment apparent and having a FOS on somebody for "Well I usually do nothing D1 so how dare you question my slot" is like actively really bad lmao
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