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Post by iavh on Nov 20, 2023 23:01:11 GMT
Im not trying to force anything, given Dactly performance I would have them as town Lean/null-town them for now, If their not consistent then I'll reconsider. Also that "hi fame" post is like pretty NAI. I think they followed up with another post to express more suspicion which is a better look for them. the OM comment was because from my (admittedly limited) experience, he’s noticeably quieter as scum, and mostly i just wanted to see how he would react hmmm idk, I swear you were talking about scummy entrances |
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Post by Prodigu on Nov 20, 2023 23:05:24 GMT
Girl I don't feel like trying to quote things because I don't know how the bleep forums work usually but I'll post some brief thoughts here from my point of view! Please bare with me and my reads since this is my first proper mafia so not everything is bond to make perfect sense to y'all but like hi I exist! - It seems like people want to vote iavh due to him trolling and not being very readable either way as a result, and I get that mindset because there is only so much you can go off of Day 1 so it makes sense to vote an anomaly here to get rid of a harder to read variable. - I could be naive, but OM and Fame tentatively read as town to me at the moment. I feel like OM is actively questioning other people's reads as well as providing reads of his own and all of them seem to be grounded in reason, so he doesn't give scum to me. Fame I feel like is challenging things and the logic behind them questioning other people seem to be sound. It seems like Fame is trying to play for what would benefit town the most here by questioning votes and mulling over if they are logical/fair. That's all I got for now it's hard for me properly analyze people's behaviors when I haven't played mafia with any of y'all before LOL Its been generally stated by others already but i will contribute here, generally the post speaks townie to me, appears to be a new players attempted entrance into the game by trying to give some general thoughts on their viewpoint so far. Putting them as a townlean for myself at the current time, would like to see how the slot develops from here |
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Post by Dactyl7 on Nov 20, 2023 23:11:18 GMT
Eh actually idk, I still think Clouds' early posts are mega weird but him and Kliff are never S/S I don't think and I agree more with his read on Kliff I agree that clouds/kliff are unpartnered but im not rlly sure about kliff, alignment-wise like, i agree with the sentiment that his read based on my very limited activity was a bit strange and kind of grasping at straws, but at the same time, if what you want to do is make an inoffensive town read to seem like you're contributing, there are probably better players to read + ways to do so that will put you under less scrutiny than replying to a post like OM's in the way that he did also, his sort of - insistence? idk, like the fact that he continues discussing and like explaining his thought process for this read - comes off as genuine to me also i really like fame's whole iso, i can feel the solve-y intent i disagree that camryn's post indicates town alignment (i also dont think that it indicates scum alignment) its very possible that someone with experience with social games could come into a forum game for the first time and seem genuine in their reads despite being scum im not sure where to put my vote atm, iavh hasnt said anything that makes me want to move it, so unless i find a better scumread, there it remains clouds' earlier posts still fuck me up a little asw, i obviously am no stranger to saying things early D1 that don't contribute to the game, but i still dont see what motivation a town player has to signal their towniness so hard |
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Post by Dactyl7 on Nov 20, 2023 23:12:28 GMT
going to get on PC now in a few mins and gather my thoughts, want to clarify that my iavh vote was purely RVS the OM comment was because from my (admittedly limited) experience, he’s noticeably quieter as scum, and mostly i just wanted to see how he would react hmmm idk, I swear you were talking about scummy entrances wolfy pop-in is something i saw i think schia? say once and i thought it was really funny so i repeated it |
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Post by iavh on Nov 20, 2023 23:13:36 GMT
Vote saltiestcactus23 no long introduction post here just this Actions/Idles
Player A (Reflexivizer): Reflexivize Player H
Player B (Murderous Vigilante): Kill Player P
Player C (Mafia Bus Driver): Bus drive Player J and Player N
Player D (Confidant): Confidant Player G
Player E (Card Dealer): Idle (don’t worry about randomly giving a role- it should not be needed)
Player F (Judge): Judge Player N
Player G (2S Multiplier, gifted OS Cop by Teacher N1): Cop Player A, multiply Player P Footnote 1-see below
Player H (Vanilla Townie, made (and still is) an OS PGO by Alien 2S Booby Trapper N1): Idle
Player I (Alien Contrary, Gifted OS Cop by Teacher N3): Cop Player A
Player J (Celebrity): Idle
Player K (Mafia Psychotrooper Button): Kill Player O
Player L (Mafia Reflexivizer): Reflexivize Player A
Player M (Wild Card SI): Wild card Player A
Player N (Flip Flop, gifted OS Cop by teacher N2): Cop Player D
Player O (Gambit Public Cop): Cop Player M
Player P (Avoider): Avoid Player G
Player Q (Compatibility Checker): Check Player J and Player I
Player X (Oracle): If it was legal, could an infinite loop of action resolution occur tonight? (To be sure you didn’t guess, I need a justification!!)2
Player Y (Oracle): Could town win by the end of the night with no more town deaths? (Ditto)
Player Z(Mafia Oracle): Is it possible for the game to end in a Mafia win by the end of D5 without the use of any PGOs, reflexivizers, or multipliers that happen to be in the setup? (Extremely devious answer, will also need an explanation to know you didn't guess 🙂)
Footnotes:
1: If, hypothetically, a player with multiple actions was to target a reflexive reflexivizer with one action, only that one action should be applied reflexively.
2: These somewhat trolly oracles are asking hypothetical questions about what may occur during this night (N4) before the night actually happens. Thus, you should be thinking of alternative subsets of night actions that would lead to answering their questions wolfy pop-in vote iamveryhappytowncore: Dactyl7, Crespo, Pisxel you lied. |
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Post by Dactyl7 on Nov 20, 2023 23:15:01 GMT
I fear this is scum iavh btw last I played with town iavh he was so much more in every aspect Although i dont want to immediately agree, he was similar at the start of a previous game in which he said one / two things and stayed relatively lurker-y for a bit (where he was scum) compared to other games in which he would be more (town) Imo we can apply pressure to the slot, and that should give a better understanding of where Iavhs alignment is. With that said, Unvote Fame Vote Iavh I think that saying things like the blue text sort of defeats the purpose of pressuring somebody If you want them to react in a way that gives you information about their alignment, i feel like they should think that you scumread them idk |
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Post by Dactyl7 on Nov 20, 2023 23:18:23 GMT
anyways this is not a certified iavh moment. save it until I get yeeted Ok so you think Fame is scum currently atm is what youre saying? Is there anyone you believe would be town at the current moment, or are there any other players you think could be scum from what theyve said so far aside from your townread on fame (t!fame seems to be the consensus rn) and your townlean on cam, im noticing that your iso is basically just questions, so i will pose you a question who do you scumread right now, and why? |
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Post by Dactyl7 on Nov 20, 2023 23:20:19 GMT
and is your point that i should've just pushed iavh and not brought it up as a passing conversation topic, or that i should be under scrutiny for considering it in the first place or is my sin here just not being serious your entire iso being about considering a policy vote is not, like, great |
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Post by Dactyl7 on Nov 20, 2023 23:22:25 GMT
im going to stick around for a bit to read any new responses/responses to my responses, but i need to get some more work done so it wont be for too long
ill backread on some other slots later when i have time again
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Post by pisxel on Nov 20, 2023 23:34:15 GMT
reading thru all these posts rn, will post readlist later - iavh is town btw
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Post by OM~! on Nov 20, 2023 23:43:45 GMT
Waiting for my food to cook
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Post by OM~! on Nov 20, 2023 23:44:48 GMT
reading thru all these posts rn, will post readlist later - iavh is town btw I'm, admittedly, a lot less familiar with his more recent games but his current play feels like such a stark difference from the s10 quali game that I'm, like, in shock |
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Post by OM~! on Nov 20, 2023 23:45:19 GMT
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Post by OM~! on Nov 20, 2023 23:49:15 GMT
I'm towncoring penguind
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Post by OM~! on Nov 20, 2023 23:49:43 GMT
Any objections can be sent to my suggestions box |
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Post by Alexander489 on Nov 20, 2023 23:52:04 GMT
Votecount 1.1
If there is an issue with the votecount or if you notice any errors, let me know and I will correct it.
If day were to end now, iavh would be voted out.
There are ~25 hours left.
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Post by OM~! on Nov 20, 2023 23:52:48 GMT
vote Cuddleszz
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 23:59:43 GMT
Ok so you think Fame is scum currently atm is what youre saying? Is there anyone you believe would be town at the current moment, or are there any other players you think could be scum from what theyve said so far aside from your townread on fame (t!fame seems to be the consensus rn) and your townlean on cam, im noticing that your iso is basically just questions, so i will pose you a question
who do you scumread right now, and why? |
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Post by pisxel on Nov 21, 2023 0:03:37 GMT
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Post by pisxel on Nov 21, 2023 0:04:10 GMT
vote dactyl
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Post by Prodigu on Nov 21, 2023 0:07:58 GMT
Ok so you think Fame is scum currently atm is what youre saying? Is there anyone you believe would be town at the current moment, or are there any other players you think could be scum from what theyve said so far aside from your townread on fame (t!fame seems to be the consensus rn) and your townlean on cam, im noticing that your iso is basically just questions, so i will pose you a question who do you scumread right now, and why? fair thing to ask, something ive honestly, dont think ive fully questioned myself just yet so im gonna look at some ISOs and see what stands out at current time to me, I think out of any reads i have so far in terms of scumminess im currently inclined to put Kliff here. In reading this slot i have several conflicting thoughts, which generally stem from his TR on you despite you not having much content to make of at the time to say "I TR this person" The TR could be due to TMI of knowing that youre not part of his scumteam i generally find the slots progression on his TR on you to be "weird" similarly however, i find myself constantly questioning, why s!Kliff would say something such as that this early on in the game, at least from my POV I couldnt say I TR you off of the posts you made at that point id leave you in more of a Null category, and when questioned about it doubles down a bit which is interesting. Other SRs i would put here atp would be Peng, based only on his ISO being dropping 2 votes and thats it doesnt generally sit right with me, only other thing they said was "Iavh is town". Seems like theyre kind of reading the thread but not putting out more than a vote. you mentioned it in a post prior about Cyans ISO being entirely about a Iavh policy vote not being a good look and im inclined to agree here, they have given me the general vibe that they can put out decent work into the game so this is a slot id like to keep an eye on to see if they progress more than iavh Theres several slots id like to see content out of to make a more informed read on being EDJ, SC, Fingerlings, pisxel, tanpat, TBZ, tommy, cuddz (yea im listing the players that havent said much of anything yet) |
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Post by camryn on Nov 21, 2023 0:14:15 GMT
Fair enough, But  if you read om's post carefully, he's not even saying dact is town on the grounds of him being willing to draw attention to himself -- there's a double negative in there and it looks like he's saying that he's town for not drawing attention to himself, so it made me question whether you'd even read the post or just wanted to signal boost something to appear helpful the reason i asked him to clarify was because i was wary of the idea of him saying dact was town for not drawing attention to himself which a) wouldn't have aligned with dact's play so far and b) is a bad reason to call anyone town Late response but I would like some clarity on this Clouds. You yourself even admitted that OM used "backwards phrasing" in his post so I feel like it's fair that some people would misread it due to it being confusing. For the record I don't think that you're acting particularly scummy at the moment and I do understand some of the other points brought forward as to why Kliff could be read as scum here, I just feel like this particular point is kinda a stretch? Maybe I'm just misinterpreting it but making the leap of not fully comprehending OM's post = scummy behavior and signal boosting seems a bit of a leap of logic. |
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Post by camryn on Nov 21, 2023 0:17:35 GMT
Eh actually idk, I still think Clouds' early posts are mega weird but him and Kliff are never S/S I don't think and I agree more with his read on Kliff I agree that clouds/kliff are unpartnered but im not rlly sure about kliff, alignment-wise like, i agree with the sentiment that his read based on my very limited activity was a bit strange and kind of grasping at straws, but at the same time, if what you want to do is make an inoffensive town read to seem like you're contributing, there are probably better players to read + ways to do so that will put you under less scrutiny than replying to a post like OM's in the way that he did also, his sort of - insistence? idk, like the fact that he continues discussing and like explaining his thought process for this read - comes off as genuine to me also i really like fame's whole iso, i can feel the solve-y intent i disagree that camryn's post indicates town alignment (i also dont think that it indicates scum alignment)
its very possible that someone with experience with social games could come into a forum game for the first time and seem genuine in their reads despite being scum
im not sure where to put my vote atm, iavh hasnt said anything that makes me want to move it, so unless i find a better scumread, there it remains clouds' earlier posts still fuck me up a little asw, i obviously am no stranger to saying things early D1 that don't contribute to the game, but i still dont see what motivation a town player has to signal their towniness so hard Going through and replying to posts I missed (bolded the point I'm addressing because I don't know how to individually respond to just that) while driving giggles, but I also think this is a fair assessment. I haven't said enough for people to definitively say I'm town and I even acknowledged this in a prior post so this all rings as a valid point to make about me. |
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Post by Dactyl7 on Nov 21, 2023 0:19:39 GMT
this assessment of my play thus far is fair, just want to say that i feel like i need to do some more reading before i can confidently make a real push will be back soon hopefully |
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Post by Prodigu on Nov 21, 2023 0:21:57 GMT
any specific reason here? seems like Pengs dropped 2 votes and went back to sleep to me |
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