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Post by Prodigu on Nov 20, 2023 13:05:37 GMT
Lowkey Toni might be town here he's kind of squeezing out alignments early on in the thread like they might not be super substantial reads but I can at least see some sort of thought being put into sorting people in the playerlist The last game i was in where Toni flipped scum he afked Day 1, can start to see some of what youre saying here |
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Post by Dactyl7 on Nov 20, 2023 13:08:06 GMT
so did you get the unfortunate typical scum rand in a town clouds game again or are we running it back to the recent oc you don't have to be honest, but you should be :] LAMIST idk how to quote multiple posts in one but, yeah ive been trying to think of a hypothetical defence for these lines and ive got nothing not necessarily alignment indicative or anything and its only D1, but not a great look |
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 13:10:29 GMT
i have all the incentive to manufacture a push on iavh because frankly i haven't been around long enough to know if they've learned from our previous games and i am doubtful that they have This seems forced, like if you're going to do this then why not just do it without announcing? I agree he's a slot that is u sually better to chop early (see: Knights Errant game or the recent Tropicana OC) but announcing this just defeats the purpose and gives him room to be nonchalant about his engagement with the thread |
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 13:15:04 GMT
Actually something about Cyan's posts seems uncomfortable like there's a need to post but an uncertainty about what to post. Along with like justifications for why they're posting what they're posting which seems kind of wrought
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 13:47:38 GMT
Unvote Crespo
Vote CyanTalon  |
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Post by Prodigu on Nov 20, 2023 14:02:01 GMT
Actually something about Cyan's posts seems uncomfortable like there's a need to post but an uncertainty about what to post. Along with like justifications for why they're posting what they're posting which seems kind of wrought Which posts seem forced to you? It sounds like aside from the one about Clem there are other ones that also give off this similar vibe to you. |
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Post by cuddleszz on Nov 20, 2023 14:03:04 GMT
Games votes are cool, early pressure salt/iavh slots for early scumtells
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 14:07:17 GMT
Actually something about Cyan's posts seems uncomfortable like there's a need to post but an uncertainty about what to post. Along with like justifications for why they're posting what they're posting which seems kind of wrought Which posts seem forced to you? It sounds like aside from the one about Clem there are other ones that also give off this similar vibe to you. Post about the one liners, the IAVH line, etc etc. There's only a few game related ones so I can't reach for more atm |
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 14:10:41 GMT
Games votes are cool, early pressure salt/iavh slots for early scumtells Eh no this gives far too much credit I think to the people voting those slots. PenguinD dropping a singular vote on IAVH with no other posts + IAVH voting SC means nothing really. To Cyan's credit I'll say that I at least appreciate the thought process there behind pushing the IAVH slot but it just feels incredibly safe and doesn't actually progress the game anywhere when there's a lot of content to be read into outside of IAVH's singular post |
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 14:16:26 GMT
Kliff/Tommy2Hands probably unpartnered I think that doesn't seem like S/S
Idk where Clouds is seeing in mine and Fenrir's interactions outside of me lolvoting them to use the gif lol
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Post by cyan on Nov 20, 2023 14:27:42 GMT
i have all the incentive to manufacture a push on iavh because frankly i haven't been around long enough to know if they've learned from our previous games and i am doubtful that they have This seems forced, like if you're going to do this then why not just do it without announcing? I agree he's a slot that is u sually better to chop early (see: Knights Errant game or the recent Tropicana OC) but announcing this just defeats the purpose and gives him room to be nonchalant about his engagement with the thread when a dude says out loud "man i really could use a burger right now" do you normally snark in with a "just fucking get a burger then" i don't think i need to explain a clem push. i can instead explain why dedicating mysef to a clem push at this stage would be a poor idea, but i won't |
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Post by cyan on Nov 20, 2023 14:28:26 GMT
Unvote Crespo
Vote CyanTalon using an against me like this is filthy actually |
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 14:34:45 GMT
This seems forced, like if you're going to do this then why not just do it without announcing? I agree he's a slot that is u sually better to chop early (see: Knights Errant game or the recent Tropicana OC) but announcing this just defeats the purpose and gives him room to be nonchalant about his engagement with the thread when a dude says out loud "man i really could use a burger right now" do you normally snark in with a "just fucking get a burger then" i don't think i need to explain a clem push. i can instead explain why dedicating mysef to a clem push at this stage would be a poor idea, but i won't My point is anyone can feign doing something whilst doing nothing, which is basically what an IAVH vote serves at this stage since I'm pretty sure everyone is well aware of how he plays atp + from past experience pressuring that slot does nothing but exacerbate shitposting in the thread for an entire phase |
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Post by cyan on Nov 20, 2023 14:41:47 GMT
and is your point that i should've just pushed iavh and not brought it up as a passing conversation topic, or that i should be under scrutiny for considering it in the first place
or is my sin here just not being serious
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 14:42:39 GMT
and is your point that i should've just pushed iavh and not brought it up as a passing conversation topic, or that i should be under scrutiny for considering it in the first place or is my sin here just not being serious The former, even if I have differing opinions on whether it's productive |
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 14:47:49 GMT
I think there's a plethora of reasons to not let people AFK park on LHF slots in this set up which I won't go into right now so instead I'll just ask: why would scum want low thread visibility in this set up?
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Post by iavh on Nov 20, 2023 15:49:36 GMT
Vote saltiestcactus23 no long introduction post here just this Actions/Idles
Player A (Reflexivizer): Reflexivize Player H
Player B (Murderous Vigilante): Kill Player P
Player C (Mafia Bus Driver): Bus drive Player J and Player N
Player D (Confidant): Confidant Player G
Player E (Card Dealer): Idle (don’t worry about randomly giving a role- it should not be needed)
Player F (Judge): Judge Player N
Player G (2S Multiplier, gifted OS Cop by Teacher N1): Cop Player A, multiply Player P Footnote 1-see below
Player H (Vanilla Townie, made (and still is) an OS PGO by Alien 2S Booby Trapper N1): Idle
Player I (Alien Contrary, Gifted OS Cop by Teacher N3): Cop Player A
Player J (Celebrity): Idle
Player K (Mafia Psychotrooper Button): Kill Player O
Player L (Mafia Reflexivizer): Reflexivize Player A
Player M (Wild Card SI): Wild card Player A
Player N (Flip Flop, gifted OS Cop by teacher N2): Cop Player D
Player O (Gambit Public Cop): Cop Player M
Player P (Avoider): Avoid Player G
Player Q (Compatibility Checker): Check Player J and Player I
Player X (Oracle): If it was legal, could an infinite loop of action resolution occur tonight? (To be sure you didn’t guess, I need a justification!!)2
Player Y (Oracle): Could town win by the end of the night with no more town deaths? (Ditto)
Player Z(Mafia Oracle): Is it possible for the game to end in a Mafia win by the end of D5 without the use of any PGOs, reflexivizers, or multipliers that happen to be in the setup? (Extremely devious answer, will also need an explanation to know you didn't guess 🙂)
Footnotes:
1: If, hypothetically, a player with multiple actions was to target a reflexive reflexivizer with one action, only that one action should be applied reflexively.
2: These somewhat trolly oracles are asking hypothetical questions about what may occur during this night (N4) before the night actually happens. Thus, you should be thinking of alternative subsets of night actions that would lead to answering their questions wolfy pop-in vote iamveryhappytowncore: Dactyl7, Crespo, Pisxel How is that wolfy 😭😭😭 I’m literally advertising the NAR puzzle |
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Post by kliff on Nov 20, 2023 16:01:06 GMT
also 20p classic is not a hard town win, so if everyone pulls their weight we'll be fine. tall ask, but it'd be neat to make this one of those games that people look back on & praise the village fori'm not going to delve too far into mech yet but there are some optimal ways to approach this player size specifically that i hope are being considered LAMIST Hm Ill say something about this since I already put the time into meta diving. Based off 3 NOC games(1 !scum clouds, 2 !clouds town) that I played with them and primarily looking around the first 4 pages, They seems to enter into Day 1 more aggressively in a sense as scum, less aggressive as town. This Game as compared to other seems like they are way too passive / fillery here. Not sure what to make of it since I don't really know clouds scum meta here. If anyone has any thoughts about this I would like to hear them. |
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Post by kliff on Nov 20, 2023 16:05:23 GMT
i wish litt11 was in this game Curious though, I've only seen Schia say things like this. Has that rubbed off on you as well? lol |
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Post by kliff on Nov 20, 2023 16:06:54 GMT
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Post by Alexander489 on Nov 20, 2023 16:09:54 GMT
Votecount 1.0
If there is an issue with the votecount or if you notice any errors, let me know and I will correct it.
If day were to end now, Fame would be voted out.
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Post by Fame on Nov 20, 2023 16:19:12 GMT
Hm Ill say something about this since I already put the time into meta diving. Based off 3 NOC games(1 !scum clouds, 2 !clouds town) that I played with them and primarily looking around the first 4 pages, They seems to enter into Day 1 more aggressively in a sense as scum, less aggressive as town. This Game as compared to other seems like they are way too passive / fillery here. Not sure what to make of it since I don't really know clouds scum meta here. If anyone has any thoughts about this I would like to hear them. Not entirely sure what it says about his alignment either but there's no reason to signpost that you're town and talk about how excited you are for this to be a good town game, Clouds usually factors in how someone else's alignment would inform their read on him so shoving the idea of being town into the thread is just weird because it's preoccupied with other people's read on you rather than understanding the game |
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Post by Clouds on Nov 20, 2023 16:21:28 GMT
idk how to quote multiple posts in one but, yeah ive been trying to think of a hypothetical defence for these lines and ive got nothing not necessarily alignment indicative or anything and its only D1, but not a great look it's a running thing where prod tends to roll scum when i'm town you can't quote multiple in 1 as far as i know, but it's better that way anyways so we don't get left with giant quote walls flooding pages people can read context |
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Post by Clouds on Nov 20, 2023 16:24:01 GMT
Hm Ill say something about this since I already put the time into meta diving. Based off 3 NOC games(1 !scum clouds, 2 !clouds town) that I played with them and primarily looking around the first 4 pages, They seems to enter into Day 1 more aggressively in a sense as scum, less aggressive as town. This Game as compared to other seems like they are way too passive / fillery here. Not sure what to make of it since I don't really know clouds scum meta here. If anyone has any thoughts about this I would like to hear them. just read countdown if you want to see an example, i haven't randed scum in any other game on this site except that one there's nothing i felt the need to sink my teeth into earlier, and i'd rather not flood thread with a bunch of half-baked thoughts or ones that i'm not completely convinced of being aggressive for the sake of being aggressive is not my playstyle as any alignment, i just got very caught up in the heat of things in the oc |
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Post by Clouds on Nov 20, 2023 16:24:57 GMT
i wish litt11 was in this game Curious though, I've only seen Schia say things like this. Has that rubbed off on you as well? lol i just like playing mafia games with him |
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