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Post by Clouds on Dec 23, 2023 4:45:37 GMT
getting upset over STP's attempts to get at him, and I feel like this isn't typical PTSD? I know it's been a hot minute since I've played anything with Pass but this seems a bit unnatural to me, so this kind of just enforces my sr on Pass. PTSD began the game by voting STP, and I think that was his first mistake. He's been a bit snarky since D1, and he even was saying STP vs DDLC was S/S which seemed to be somewhat opportunistic considering DDLC's entrance was just meh (though typical DDLC) and he already wasn't a fan of STP's slot. The Yoshman insta-tr is fine. I don't think it means much when we can all agree Yosh wasn't acting scummy. hold on a minute - if ptsd is mafia, edj is probably mafia with him they've both been trying to discredit each other without ever having to push each other hard or drive a vote forward. i remember when i first read this post i was like, whoa interesting take from edj because virtually everyone else bar fenrir and maybe froggo at times townreads ptsd. but now i'm realizing it might be exactly that which makes edj's scumread on ptsd premature - it's that ptsd didn't come across as mafia for the most part, so finding him mafia is unrealistic at that point in time and edj could take advantage of that to seem like he beat everyone else to the chase this is like the first time edj addresses ptsd from what i've backread so far. like, i have yet to see direct interactions. which again, textbook edj scum behavior i think i'm beginning to see what's happened in this game, and i'm kicking myself for not realizing sooner if this is the case alright wallape, froggo, aligningstars, iavh -- i'm taking things back to when i said this, because now it's relevant here again: if you think back to when everyone was mostly townreading PTSD, bar like fenrir, nobody was necessarily wrong for that. edjean would be doing here what any competent mafia do, leveraging the fact that they know their mafia partner is being incorrectly townread by a majority of the town by casting doubt on their partner's slot. both to look distanced and beat others to the chase to gain credit off of any future flip of the slot. this interaction definitely struck me as partnered, and as far as i remember, edj never honestly cared much to push forward the vote. this was all about his stance, how he treated PTSD's slot, not anything to do with him thinking he had caught on to mafia and had enough conviction to follow through with a strong push the team, as i see it, is 2 out of the 3 of PTSD, OM, realitithe remaining four of you should trust each other because: - wallape is more or less clear off of the prod redirect and complex interactions between the two of them - froggo is just town unless his mafia play capabilities have ramped up 10x for this game - aligningstars faking this entire game as mafia would be insane lbr like how much experience does he even have - iavh looks heavily townspewed off of interactions with prod, moreso how prod treated his slot so, my proposal is to just vote off these three. we can afford 1 misvote, so assuming the towncore is trusted enough, this doesn't lose. my suggested order would be: - vote om before the other two - if om mafia, flip ptsd first - if om town, flip realiti first let me know your thoughts on this. i think it'd be killer for town to win this after the middle of the game started to look grim, so i'd love for a great comeback story |
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Post by AligningStars on Dec 23, 2023 4:47:19 GMT
hold on a minute - if ptsd is mafia, edj is probably mafia with him they've both been trying to discredit each other without ever having to push each other hard or drive a vote forward. i remember when i first read this post i was like, whoa interesting take from edj because virtually everyone else bar fenrir and maybe froggo at times townreads ptsd. but now i'm realizing it might be exactly that which makes edj's scumread on ptsd premature - it's that ptsd didn't come across as mafia for the most part, so finding him mafia is unrealistic at that point in time and edj could take advantage of that to seem like he beat everyone else to the chase this is like the first time edj addresses ptsd from what i've backread so far. like, i have yet to see direct interactions. which again, textbook edj scum behavior i think i'm beginning to see what's happened in this game, and i'm kicking myself for not realizing sooner if this is the case alright wallape, froggo, aligningstars, iavh -- i'm taking things back to when i said this, because now it's relevant here again: if you think back to when everyone was mostly townreading PTSD, bar like fenrir, nobody was necessarily wrong for that. edjean would be doing here what any competent mafia do, leveraging the fact that they know their mafia partner is being incorrectly townread by a majority of the town by casting doubt on their partner's slot. both to look distanced and beat others to the chase to gain credit off of any future flip of the slot. this interaction definitely struck me as partnered, and as far as i remember, edj never honestly cared much to push forward the vote. this was all about his stance, how he treated PTSD's slot, not anything to do with him thinking he had caught on to mafia and had enough conviction to follow through with a strong push the team, as i see it, is 2 out of the 3 of PTSD, OM, realitithe remaining four of you should trust each other because: - wallape is more or less clear off of the prod redirect and complex interactions between the two of them - froggo is just town unless his mafia play capabilities have ramped up 10x for this game - aligningstars faking this entire game as mafia would be insane lbr like how much experience does he even have - iavh looks heavily townspewed off of interactions with prod, moreso how prod treated his slot so, my proposal is to just vote off these three. we can afford 1 misvote, so assuming the towncore is trusted enough, this doesn't lose. my suggested order would be: - vote om before the other two - if om mafia, flip ptsd first - if om town, flip realiti first let me know your thoughts on this. i think it'd be killer for town to win this after the middle of the game started to look grim, so i'd love for a great comeback story what if im just that good |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 23, 2023 4:48:02 GMT
also i just want it to be known that I plan on hiding behind Edjean tonight (that feels like a good fakeclaim for tomorrow tbh) if this is like, truly svs, i'm going to cry in most cases it's not but in PTSD's case it can be because i can absolutely see him doing this as svs with the slot |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 23, 2023 4:49:05 GMT
what if im just that good then you get to live knowing you played better than every single player in this game & that would be a pretty cool feat considering you're newer too bad you're not mafia |
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Post by iavh on Dec 23, 2023 4:52:23 GMT
dw clouds I’m totally prepared for that
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Post by OM~! on Dec 23, 2023 4:59:09 GMT
anyone know wat happened to ddlcfan69 they still seem to be alive according to the pl in page 1
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Post by AligningStars on Dec 23, 2023 5:03:23 GMT
anyone know wat happened to ddlcfan69 they still seem to be alive according to the pl in page 1 ikr but they were night killed like n3 |
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Post by AligningStars on Dec 23, 2023 5:03:44 GMT
they havent updated since december 16th so alex pls update
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Post by Clouds on Dec 23, 2023 5:03:48 GMT
PTSD i feel like their posts are forcing me to townread them in a way, but the vibe check is not there which has me SLing them atm rn yeah, here it is again like, there weren't great reasons to SR PTSD at the time -- prod also never pursues this vote iirc, he just says he scumleans him. it looks bad, it looks partnered for sure "forcing me to townread them" is such an absurd reason to lay a read down that i think so easily coincides with mafia having TMI about the player they're talking about also being mafia |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 23, 2023 5:07:36 GMT
okay cool that makes a lot of sense!! it really didn’t matter bc like Micro said due to the BP vest Fenrir couldn’t be protected bc he lost the 50/50. Just wanted to know your thought process behind it Thats fine to ask me!! its good to ask me my thought process behind stuff b/c i generally overlook putting it in a lot of the time (as youve probably seen) and thennn... prod's response here feels vaguely unpartnered, headache |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 23, 2023 5:09:52 GMT
it wasnt called reloader im pretty sure ihbst never told us but what confuses me is how much ibhst trusts iavh How much is occuring in this group chat? Also i thought this GC was dissolved atp, do you think ihbst has tmi'd iavh as town here? and this... prod's ultra curious about what's going on in the chat, so i'm not sure he had any insider information being relayed to him wdyt about this, aligningstars & iavh? to me, this looks like evidence that both of you are likely town |
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Post by OM~! on Dec 23, 2023 5:14:21 GMT
hold on a minute - if ptsd is mafia, edj is probably mafia with him they've both been trying to discredit each other without ever having to push each other hard or drive a vote forward. i remember when i first read this post i was like, whoa interesting take from edj because virtually everyone else bar fenrir and maybe froggo at times townreads ptsd. but now i'm realizing it might be exactly that which makes edj's scumread on ptsd premature - it's that ptsd didn't come across as mafia for the most part, so finding him mafia is unrealistic at that point in time and edj could take advantage of that to seem like he beat everyone else to the chase this is like the first time edj addresses ptsd from what i've backread so far. like, i have yet to see direct interactions. which again, textbook edj scum behavior i think i'm beginning to see what's happened in this game, and i'm kicking myself for not realizing sooner if this is the case alright wallape, froggo, aligningstars, iavh -- i'm taking things back to when i said this, because now it's relevant here again: if you think back to when everyone was mostly townreading PTSD, bar like fenrir, nobody was necessarily wrong for that. edjean would be doing here what any competent mafia do, leveraging the fact that they know their mafia partner is being incorrectly townread by a majority of the town by casting doubt on their partner's slot. both to look distanced and beat others to the chase to gain credit off of any future flip of the slot. this interaction definitely struck me as partnered, and as far as i remember, edj never honestly cared much to push forward the vote. this was all about his stance, how he treated PTSD's slot, not anything to do with him thinking he had caught on to mafia and had enough conviction to follow through with a strong push the team, as i see it, is 2 out of the 3 of PTSD, OM, realitithe remaining four of you should trust each other because: - wallape is more or less clear off of the prod redirect and complex interactions between the two of them - froggo is just town unless his mafia play capabilities have ramped up 10x for this game - aligningstars faking this entire game as mafia would be insane lbr like how much experience does he even have - iavh looks heavily townspewed off of interactions with prod, moreso how prod treated his slot so, my proposal is to just vote off these three. we can afford 1 misvote, so assuming the towncore is trusted enough, this doesn't lose. my suggested order would be: - vote om before the other two - if om mafia, flip ptsd first - if om town, flip realiti first let me know your thoughts on this. i think it'd be killer for town to win this after the middle of the game started to look grim, so i'd love for a great comeback story Right, so what's the gameplan from there?
imo ptsd/realiti being s/s is just tinfoiling, this is not the kind of gambit that ptsd does lmao |
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Post by OM~! on Dec 23, 2023 5:16:48 GMT
I really wished we had post numbers ala mu
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Post by OM~! on Dec 23, 2023 5:43:41 GMT
I had intended to do the full iso tonight but im at page 3 and my eyes r fucking glazing over so I'm just gonna dump my current notes in thread and finish it up sometime tmrw. atm bunch of stuff just feels unpartnered, but I feel really strongly about iavh/align T atm Prod ISO Pages 1-3 notes: iavh/prod: - First few posts are interactions with IAVH, generally NAI but this post could be some weird partner interaction? - These posts could also be signs of iavh / prod partner, but could equally just be prod pocketing iavh. - On the flip side this post seems pretty unpartnered w/ iavh, being more frustration at iavh rather than an attempt to corral. - Ok no he's definitely just pocketing at this point I don't think any scum buddy goes so far as to make this post defending a potential partner. froggo/prod: - these posts make froggo / prod seem unpartnered - This post is also pro iavh, but equally anti-froggo/stp - I think atvl prod's trying to discredit the slots here, if not specifically setting them up to be voted off later on. wallape/prod: - these posts make wallape / prod seem unpartnered - this is also definitely wallape / prod unpartnered - This is equally a "defend yourself lying about night actions" post and a "shift suspicion to wallape post" align/prod: - Aligningstars / Prod are definitely unpartnered based on this original readslist, bro was looking for an easy chop d1. - Mmm these posts might be coaching (ala the bgb coach from champs practice stuff) but I think that narrative clashes w/ the previous prodigu readslist.
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Post by OM~! on Dec 23, 2023 5:46:44 GMT
I had intended to do the full iso tonight but im at page 3 and my eyes r fucking glazing over so I'm just gonna dump my current notes in thread and finish it up sometime tmrw. atm bunch of stuff just feels unpartnered, but I feel really strongly about iavh/align T atm Prod ISO Pages 1-3 notes: iavh/prod: - First few posts are interactions with IAVH, generally NAI but this post could be some weird partner interaction? - These posts could also be signs of iavh / prod partner, but could equally just be prod pocketing iavh. - On the flip side this post seems pretty unpartnered w/ iavh, being more frustration at iavh rather than an attempt to corral. - Ok no he's definitely just pocketing at this point I don't think any scum buddy goes so far as to make this post defending a potential partner. froggo/prod: - these posts make froggo / prod seem unpartnered - This post is also pro iavh, but equally anti-froggo/stp - I think atvl prod's trying to discredit the slots here, if not specifically setting them up to be voted off later on. wallape/prod: - these posts make wallape / prod seem unpartnered - this is also definitely wallape / prod unpartnered - This is equally a "defend yourself lying about night actions" post and a "shift suspicion to wallape post" align/prod: - Aligningstars / Prod are definitely unpartnered based on this original readslist, bro was looking for an easy chop d1. - Mmm these posts might be coaching (ala the bgb coach from champs practice stuff) but I think that narrative clashes w/ the previous prodigu readslist.
ptsd/prod:
this site hates me. EBWOP that I'm hoping works?? |
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Post by OM~! on Dec 23, 2023 5:50:07 GMT
I had intended to do the full iso tonight but im at page 3 and my eyes r fucking glazing over so I'm just gonna dump my current notes in thread and finish it up sometime tmrw. atm bunch of stuff just feels unpartnered, but I feel really strongly about iavh/align T atm Prod ISO Pages 1-3 notes: iavh/prod: - First few posts are interactions with IAVH, generally NAI but this post could be some weird partner interaction? - These posts could also be signs of iavh / prod partner, but could equally just be prod pocketing iavh. - On the flip side this post seems pretty unpartnered w/ iavh, being more frustration at iavh rather than an attempt to corral. - Ok no he's definitely just pocketing at this point I don't think any scum buddy goes so far as to make this post defending a potential partner. froggo/prod: - these posts make froggo / prod seem unpartnered - This post is also pro iavh, but equally anti-froggo/stp - I think atvl prod's trying to discredit the slots here, if not specifically setting them up to be voted off later on. wallape/prod: - these posts make wallape / prod seem unpartnered - this is also definitely wallape / prod unpartnered - This is equally a "defend yourself lying about night actions" post and a "shift suspicion to wallape post" align/prod: - Aligningstars / Prod are definitely unpartnered based on this original readslist, bro was looking for an easy chop d1. - Mmm these posts might be coaching (ala the bgb coach from champs practice stuff) but I think that narrative clashes w/ the previous prodigu readslist.
ptsd/prod:
this site hates me. EBWOP that I'm hoping works?? ebwop2 |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Dec 23, 2023 12:26:33 GMT
Vote TablePlease contact Snaq ◢ ◤ or Alexander489 ASAP if there is a mistake in the vote count. Deadline is in approximately 34.5 hours. If deadline was right now, realiti would be voted out!
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Post by wallape on Dec 23, 2023 13:20:05 GMT
hi i docced clouds last night
i think scum team is edj/ptsd pending reading which i will do eventually
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Post by wallape on Dec 23, 2023 13:29:04 GMT
Right, because this behaviour is really unusual for IAVH as town alignment? Eyerolling a bit at all of the responses to IAVHs posts, I'm tempted to just place my vote on them so people are forced to do more than pretend IAVH making strange posts is the wolf-outing of the century Sarcasm meter at a 10/10 rn on that first post. Clem doing work instead of amounting to trolling is 👍 to me atm. Ill take a look over the slots attempting to push / vote clem when i get the chance to Clems always an easy slot to fabricate a myriad of reasons to vote out, its the slots that are pushing him we would wanna look at to see if their reasoning is genuine or if theyre looking to get an easy vote off Omg i love this and would love to hear more of your thoughts about it!! So far out of the slots that are pushing/ saying the SR or SL clem, which ones stick out to you the most? Do you think anyone is genuinely SRing them or does it all feel forced? Am looking back at the two that have clem voted rn, Stp and Frogo. Am citing their posts that talk about it, cant quote them since mobile sadge Gonna start with STP, think its easier to talk about Ftr i think saying “Im frustrated with Iavh slot” is Nai for the most part, its a genuinely realistic thought that any town member can have (personally have had this myself) and its a very easy thought for anyone thats scum to fake. I dont think this is any new ground. The progression they have also kinda shows frustration with the slot itself from the interactions so that does check out here. So does STP have any progression beyond saying “this is frustrating” lets look there next. Says Yosh and Iavh are partners b/c of hesitancy from Yosh… ngl i feel like thats kinda reaching a bit Like, idt being hesitant on a slot is necessarily scum indicative nor partner indicative plenty of scum partners can Tr or SR their partners Attempts to push Clem about other information and says Clem is also hesitant to read Yosh Ok what do i like, what do i not like. I do like that STP is attempting to push Clem I dont like the conclusions, has the general feel of -> “Im frustated with Clem rawr” easy thought for either scum or town to have -> “Yosh and you are partners b/c youre hesitant on each other” This is a reach imo, coming from a (i believe) new player to forums i think having hesitancy on Clem slot and how to interact with it is nothing out of ordinary, Clem also avoiding some questions is nothing new either. Overall dont super like the conclusions drawn here from STP imo Lets look at Frogo: Original reasoning was: Iavh not having realistic thought processes (says STP is hard to read and then says STP is scum) Ill give it and say thats better reasoning (flip flopping quickly on stuff isnt a great look generally) but does Frogo try to progress here at all is another question as well imo. Jury here says no. Doesnt look like Frogo really makes much attempt to push this read forward or push the slot all that much Final Verdict: I dont like either of the votes on Iavh rn, Frogo doesnt try to push the read all that much and STP imo doesnt tread new grounds all that much for what I know about Iavh and how they play. these posts look pretty unpartnered for iavh so good look for him here |
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Post by wallape on Dec 23, 2023 13:43:53 GMT
Noooooo you were supposed to make it sound scary so that people would try to kill me tn and pray the OS BP works that’s what i tried to do with Fenrir 😭 but it didn’t work what other gift were you offered btw? Wait so you had this gift last night? You didn't actually hide on me? this actually looks much more unpartnered than ptsd's posts tbh |
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Post by wallape on Dec 23, 2023 13:46:54 GMT
whoever we think is 100% town I'd vote froggo because I know clouds is going to mess up and vote me out which probably ends the game and we need 3 correct votes in a row if prod is town u have some scum equity unfortunately I really dont like this post it feels so forced. Its hard to articulate but like them talking about knowing how clouds is gonna mess up and vote them feels just really awkard and kind of suspicous and saying micro might have some scum equity if prod is town feels forced and i dont like how Realiti is jumping to a lot of quick conclusions here Also I did mostly just glance over the past couple of pages because ive been busy, but idk how to feel how Realiti hasnt really tried to defend themselves aside from just putting blame on others and trying to direct attention elsewhere. Ill touch on this more tomorrow when i have time i dont like this post feels like setting up a mislim for the next day, i really dont agree with any of what ptsd says here |
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Post by wallape on Dec 23, 2023 14:00:21 GMT
I'm giving you the solve by finding the scum for you so you think it's PTSD & OM then? or is iavh still in the picture for you? what do you make of PTSD not submitting the kill? we know he was hijacked to you and you're still alive mafia team of PTSD & OM has OM slot submit the kill despite PTSD being more secured? it makes sense for om to be more "expendable" than ptsd ig? what are the odds that edj/om endgames if ptsd gets tracked |
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Post by wallape on Dec 23, 2023 14:11:20 GMT
OM - now that you're here, can you confirm whether or not your slot gave peng triple votes? what were your slot's previous night actions? I don't believe I did.
n1 - makes me a reflexive doctor n2 - Mayor :O n3 - demayorificator :( n4 - gift cop (name), used on micro, they had league lmao n5 - reflexive nymphomaniac n6 - gift cop (effect), used on micro, they would've been a mayor today. so edj came on every night to use night actions but didnt talk in thread? |
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Post by OM~! on Dec 23, 2023 15:36:00 GMT
I don't believe I did.
n1 - makes me a reflexive doctor n2 - Mayor  n3 - demayorificator  n4 - gift cop (name), used on micro, they had league lmao n5 - reflexive nymphomaniac n6 - gift cop (effect), used on micro, they would've been a mayor today. so edj came on every night to use night actions but didnt talk in thread? I think he used 1 night 4 but everything else is a passive lmao |
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Post by frogo on Dec 23, 2023 16:10:26 GMT
froggo is ur redirect abilities or all actions don't see why it wouldn't be all actions one thing I will say is that my N5 was to charge up and make my N6 strongwilled so it's possible mafia couldve had a similar thing but PTSD was definitely redirected to you |
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