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Post by frogo on Dec 4, 2023 19:05:42 GMT
if you're here prod, thoughts on abc / stp? STP- Generally feels like theyre trying to get their foot in the water, I do understand the sentiment of disliking the vibe of “im saying my 5 posts to get them out of the way” i would raise alarm bells here if they ghost the thread after achieving their post minimum slight SL for now ggs we own that fraud fame
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Post by frogo on Dec 4, 2023 19:08:16 GMT
and stp also tends to like soft bus early so theres that as well While ur right that I usually bus, I dont agree with soft bussing like, if im being voted im gonna stay on the slot im bussing, you've played with me before peng. You know this. STP why did you feel pressured by peng saying this
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Post by iavh on Dec 4, 2023 19:10:38 GMT
I’m quoting on phone so a bit messy I apologise 1. stp, wallape, fame 2. This question is really meh to me but iavh will answer it anyways! I feel like it’s better to let the afk slots prove their worth. If we can’t find a good yeet we might have to resort to yeeting them, but that’s a last resort. btw your next line is going to be “why is this question really meh”, so I’ll answer it for you. It looks as if you are doing a certified iavh thing - scared to go into pushes, and what I really don’t like is that sense of passiveness I can see in that question: reminds me of myself when I actually am clueless. 3. Interesting soft, but if this isn’t a soft, I’d advise you to look at my answer to the first question. 4. I like the iavh townread, others are slightly based but I’d say wait a bit more to see the alignment of others. It’s better now we only have one alignment to focus on so yay 5. I can’t quote stuff so wait a bit :> I just want to say that this if my favorite answer to fames question so far mainly for their response to the second question. I love how it is calling out the second question for essentially accomplishing nothing and more or less being a question that does not fully matter due to how most comments on AFK slots arent going to prove very meaningful or useful imo This response in general feel very town to me, and their responses after this just feel very genuine to me. Im mainly interested to see IAVH elaborate on the first question because I do like the idea they are going with and I think a more comprehensive read from them will help me be able to readthis slot better first question eh? stp is like unreadable for stp reasons (you won't get it most likely) wallape just doesn't really show motivation or intent as both alignments to me ppl say there's this obv difference when it's s!fame or t!fame but I just don't see it and later regret it
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Post by frogo on Dec 4, 2023 19:11:40 GMT
i dont see much point in anyone claiming to be town right now so bit of an interesting line from prodigu. I mean anyone could claim to be town so better to go off reads dont edit posts
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Post by frogo on Dec 4, 2023 19:12:36 GMT
But something like what froggo or wallape did just saying im town im not gonna trust entirelly Quote me saying that you are town
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Post by frogo on Dec 4, 2023 19:14:19 GMT
This is an example. Its just saying something that has pretty much no meaning towards helping the game move on Actually this is a good example of why STP and DDLC are slots I have a hard time not scumreading, Yosh makes a good point here and its the main reason why STP is my gut Scumread, they have said a consistent amount of nothing and a lot of STP 'reads' are half baked and very non committal, and STP has offered very little follow up on most claims/ reads they have made incredible post and i hate u for not saying this earlier /hj
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Post by Prodigu on Dec 4, 2023 19:16:05 GMT
Ive taken a look at some of abcaba's lines and im not really sure how they help us progress. If abc was to flip scum i dont think its possible to tell whether slowthepoke is scummy, based on the fact that it could be bussing or opposing. However, according to everyones lines I read abcaba as the scummiest right now. The part that especially stands out to me is that they mentioned slowthepoke tunneling. I think this seems like a grasp for a slot to vote on If youre saying you think Abc is grasping for a slot to vote on here, and that slot is STP, what do you make of this? Like do you think this is ABC voting stp both having the TMI of being s/s do you think Abc is looking for an easy slot to get mis elimed as S!Abc over themself?
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Post by Fame on Dec 4, 2023 19:19:26 GMT
I like some of STP's ISO but then I dislike the general vibe of doing stuff just to meet the post minimum / posting for the sake of posting, don't really think that's super townie at the start of a 48 hour phase IMO this only comes into play if STP chooses to lurk for the rest of the phase as of right now you are predicting malicious intent instead of waiting to see how things play out There's no prediction, I'm talking about their ISO in that post which is past tense and the statement was true But more productively, what do you think of their posts since I made this post? You seem a bit washy washy on the STP slot right now, like PTSD has a scummy entrance for pointing at STP who is in your eyes an "easy slot to point at" but you seem kinda critical of STP yourself in your posts I'm gonna go ahead and say in a 17v4 setup it's actually super possible for multiple town to just agree on someone looking bad
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Post by Prodigu on Dec 4, 2023 19:19:54 GMT
From what I know doesnt fame usually have that type of intro? I'd say that there null. Ehhh, at least from the games ive played with Fame their general entrances have been a bit more fillery, here they get very straight to the point which is a difference im kinda making note of atm. @ frogo to answer your question, would expect a s!fame entrance to look like some filler and for them to kinda throw their vote around a bunch, (neither of which rly occurred here) before diving into the game and attempting to start putting out reads / discussion Here instead Fame gets straight into it instead however
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Post by frogo on Dec 4, 2023 19:20:56 GMT
yosh is ridiculously town i think TvS in stp/fame is very possible please let abcaba play the game i think wallape is townie but i only have reference towards their town games prodigu and ptsd are making objectively good posts now, neither of them scream town to me but that's okay
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Post by frogo on Dec 4, 2023 19:24:39 GMT
IMO this only comes into play if STP chooses to lurk for the rest of the phase as of right now you are predicting malicious intent instead of waiting to see how things play out There's no prediction, I'm talking about their ISO in that post which is past tense and the statement was true But more productively, what do you think of their posts since I made this post? You seem a bit washy washy on the STP slot right now, like PTSD has a scummy entrance for pointing at STP who is in your eyes an "easy slot to point at" but you seem kinda critical of STP yourself in your posts I'm gonna go ahead and say in a 17v4 setup it's actually super possible for multiple town to just agree on someone looking bad STP seems to be struggling to keep up with thread / remember their own points despite being overly active possibly scum nerves but I can't help but think that STP is a super easy slot for scum to take advantage of
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Post by Prodigu on Dec 4, 2023 19:27:45 GMT
We can move forward from the 'RVS' / 'there's too much filler' posts. If you wanna post but not sure what to talk about, answer literally any or all of these in the best way you can: - Which person in this playerlist will you have a hard time reading?
- What do you think of the inactive slots right now - is it better to vote them out early or wait until they do enter the thread and make posts?
- If you could instantly check one person's alignment right now without voting them out, who would you choose and why?
- Wallape townreads iamveryhappy, Fame, and SlowThePoke - do you agree with these townreads or do you not get the same vibes?
- What do you think of abcaba's posts? Does anything stand out to you or do you feel like there's not much to see there?
Gonna go answer these questions so fame doesnt go yell at me. 1. Iavh, Prod, u, any slot that hasnt spoken. 2. No my scum pooll is better to vote than some basic lurker(ik some in the scumpool havent said anything, and either wait for them to be subbed or vote them later. 3. I disagree with iavh, I need to see more from fame, I dont like that they put me in due to potential pocketing. 4. Abcaba was already scum but most of there lines dont mean shit, Ill still push a vote on them bc there in the pool though. If i was on a pc id quote more than one of your posts, What makes these 3 slots hard to read for yourself? Idt i overly agree with Iavh being a hard one to read imo Ive also seen a decent amount (iirc) of people saying SL on your slot, what do you make of this? Do you think these are all bad faith arguments or do any of them have any merit as for reasons to push you? Ive seen you saying the pocket attempts on you are both slight sl, do you think all people attempting to pocket other players are always scum intentioned?
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Post by Fame on Dec 4, 2023 19:28:43 GMT
There's no prediction, I'm talking about their ISO in that post which is past tense and the statement was true But more productively, what do you think of their posts since I made this post? You seem a bit washy washy on the STP slot right now, like PTSD has a scummy entrance for pointing at STP who is in your eyes an "easy slot to point at" but you seem kinda critical of STP yourself in your posts I'm gonna go ahead and say in a 17v4 setup it's actually super possible for multiple town to just agree on someone looking bad STP seems to be struggling to keep up with thread / remember their own points despite being overly active possibly scum nerves but I can't help but think that STP is a super easy slot for scum to take advantage of Mhm
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Post by Prodigu on Dec 4, 2023 19:30:58 GMT
There's no prediction, I'm talking about their ISO in that post which is past tense and the statement was true But more productively, what do you think of their posts since I made this post? You seem a bit washy washy on the STP slot right now, like PTSD has a scummy entrance for pointing at STP who is in your eyes an "easy slot to point at" but you seem kinda critical of STP yourself in your posts I'm gonna go ahead and say in a 17v4 setup it's actually super possible for multiple town to just agree on someone looking bad STP seems to be struggling to keep up with thread / remember their own points despite being overly active possibly scum nerves but I can't help but think that STP is a super easy slot for scum to take advantage of Do either of these scenarios ring particularly true to you rn?
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Post by Fame on Dec 4, 2023 19:33:44 GMT
I’m quoting on phone so a bit messy I apologise 1. stp, wallape, fame 2. This question is really meh to me but iavh will answer it anyways! I feel like it’s better to let the afk slots prove their worth. If we can’t find a good yeet we might have to resort to yeeting them, but that’s a last resort. btw your next line is going to be “why is this question really meh”, so I’ll answer it for you. It looks as if you are doing a certified iavh thing - scared to go into pushes, and what I really don’t like is that sense of passiveness I can see in that question: reminds me of myself when I actually am clueless. 3. Interesting soft, but if this isn’t a soft, I’d advise you to look at my answer to the first question. 4. I like the iavh townread, others are slightly based but I’d say wait a bit more to see the alignment of others. It’s better now we only have one alignment to focus on so yay 5. I can’t quote stuff so wait a bit :> I just want to say that this if my favorite answer to fames question so far mainly for their response to the second question. I love how it is calling out the second question for essentially accomplishing nothing and more or less being a question that does not fully matter due to how most comments on AFK slots arent going to prove very meaningful or useful imo This response in general feel very town to me, and their responses after this just feel very genuine to me. Im mainly interested to see IAVH elaborate on the first question because I do like the idea they are going with and I think a more comprehensive read from them will help me be able to readthis slot better Good post
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Post by frogo on Dec 4, 2023 19:35:50 GMT
STP seems to be struggling to keep up with thread / remember their own points despite being overly active possibly scum nerves but I can't help but think that STP is a super easy slot for scum to take advantage of Do either of these scenarios ring particularly true to you rn? if you're asking whether or not i definitively TR or SR stp, the answer is neither
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Post by Fame on Dec 4, 2023 19:40:58 GMT
Froggo I get the sense that you're paranoid of my slot and it seems like tinfoil rather than anything you're disagreeing with in my posts
We have almost identical worldviews in the game right now - find me as town or re-eval your reads bc they shouldn't be aligning with mine if you think there's a likely chance of me flipping scum
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Post by Fame on Dec 4, 2023 19:44:05 GMT
Where I'm at right now is like
Yosh is very townie, maybe if things look worse down the line reconsider but I don't think they can fake those interactions with me as wolf
Abcaba slot has lots of controversy that I'm trying to understand more
Froggo is fine for now - looks kinda unpartnered
PTSD's posts are good, probably some of the better posts in the game right now
Prod looks better than he did at the start of the game but need more time to develop a read on him rn
Clems looks okay
Wallape is good
Will re-eval when necessary but this is what I'm working off of for now
Unlikely that none of these more active posters are scum but need some sort of foundation
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Post by Fame on Dec 4, 2023 19:46:35 GMT
More confident on
Yosh/Clems/PTSD being town than anything else right now I think, I just can't see those slots interacting with my posts like that when they're scum barring maybe PTSD who I don't have too much experience playing with
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 4, 2023 19:51:35 GMT
Gonna go answer these questions so fame doesnt go yell at me. 1. Iavh, Prod, u, any slot that hasnt spoken. 2. No my scum pooll is better to vote than some basic lurker(ik some in the scumpool havent said anything, and either wait for them to be subbed or vote them later. 3. I disagree with iavh, I need to see more from fame, I dont like that they put me in due to potential pocketing. 4. Abcaba was already scum but most of there lines dont mean shit, Ill still push a vote on them bc there in the pool though. I actually want to hear more in terms of your scumread on Abcaba, mainly what makes them scummier compared to the other players who have offered very little to the game so far? Is there any post of theirs in particular that stands out to you besides their opening as scummy? If abcaba flips town what do you think the next step is, likewise if they flip scum So theres one main reason I decided to do this, Abcaba voted me, and then after I called them out for it I didnt really like there reaction since they just made a joking response and then didnt do anything, and ur right, i havent really explained my scum pool, and im not gonna, i dont have enough info on enough slots in that to give real info, I just did that so I can narrow down slots to read on instead of every slot, which I ended up having ti do do anyways.
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Dec 4, 2023 19:52:51 GMT
ok so I think ddlcfan is gonna be hard to read because they havent posted too many meaningful posts
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 4, 2023 19:53:06 GMT
While ur right that I usually bus, I dont agree with soft bussing like, if im being voted im gonna stay on the slot im bussing, you've played with me before peng. You know this. STP why did you feel pressured by peng saying this Bc im getting slandered, simple as that. But if u want a real reasoning simply because its not true and it makes me look worse
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Dec 4, 2023 19:53:11 GMT
why was that so small rip
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Post by frogo on Dec 4, 2023 19:54:43 GMT
Froggo I get the sense that you're paranoid of my slot and it seems like tinfoil rather than anything you're disagreeing with in my posts We have almost identical worldviews in the game right now - find me as town or re-eval your reads bc they shouldn't be aligning with mine if you think there's a likely chance of me flipping scum If i dont say that youre town are you gonna kill me i do not understand your sense of urgency
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Dec 4, 2023 19:55:05 GMT
voting tos is always morally correct! it’s rvs but pressure cuz yall are boring This is an example. Its just saying something that has pretty much no meaning towards helping the game move on there was 5 pages of fillering before i got in the game
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