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Post by yoshman8 on Dec 22, 2023 10:00:31 GMT
Ok so I've been taking a look at recent reads and messages. From what i can see right now, STP definitely reads me as town. They've made good contributions and put effort into starting to solve the game. At the moment, I'm unsure on the myan slot until we get an answer to kliff's question. I have a slight partner read on myan and Fame, but I'll look more into that once we see more messages from them
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 11:19:56 GMT
sigh well i guess its time anyways here we go guys (just overall read on them most scummiest to least scummy) starting with sls!(no srs rn) aligningstars - They're beginning gameplay was fine but the mason fakeclaim was very unneccesary and I don't like the reads they got from what they did(very dry and uninspiried esp on kliff) also dont like that they wont explain theyre tr until later in the day(or next day possibly) kliff - from their own lines I think theyre fine, theyd probaly be in the null section. The reason that theyre here is because of alignings reads and interactions on them making me think they could be partners if aligning is scum(vise versa but would prefer aligning) but if aligning is town then I don't think this slot is scum for now. Spiderz - Theres 1 key difference between spiderz and the other slots that dont have enough for me to read them. I know this guy at least had to read at least some of the day(theyve liked multiple posts that were later in the day and he's still decided to sit there and do nothing. Id be fine to vote this for pressure in order to make them actually say shit S!Null: Players that I don't neccesarily think flip scum rn but wouldnt be that surpisied if they do(Basically players I think could flip scum but not confident on Clouds: I really dont know what to think about them rn: I dont really like how they handled alignings claim, I completely disagree about their statement about how kliff and aligning arent partners(what kliff said was prob just nai and I dont think it means anything) However I do like how they responded to and what theyve said about iavhs post and I think there general atmosphere is town, but the things that I mentioned earlier put me off and stop me from being able to think theyre completely town. Myan: Myan has just been kinda there tbh. I kinda agree with their post about iavh trying to prsolve(idk what its called) but there push on clouds seems somewhat fake since I think that line from clouds was just a troll line, I also dont like them just trying to go at every person who votes them when atp when they did that(i think line 2 or 3) it was prob just an rvs vote. Fame: So this is kinda like the last to but more town shit and less scummy shit. I'll try to dive in deeper though. So, I kinda wish fame shared there own thoughts on what iavh said when they questioned clouds about what they said about it. I also don't like them just saying kliff is town without really explaining it at all(reminds me of alignings read exactly) but fame not explaining shit is just something that I prob will have to accept is a part of there playstyle later on. Peng - I dont really have much to say about them except the fact that I want them to focus more on reading/reaction to other peoples posts on others rather then just posts that involve themself. T!null Slots that im not completely sure about there alignment, but have a higher chance to be town than scum(not enough for me to tl them tho) Pisx - Theyve basically only just got here but I think there gameplay so far is solid, I like them trying to make yosh interact with the game more while they were there but I wanna push a little bit deeper into there fame v clouds tvt read as I think its interesting Schia - Simillar to pisx I think that so far from what ive seen from them has been townie, I like how theyve looked at the iavh slot and post since its prob much easier for them to just follow the reads that other people had on iavh(thinking their scum for faking trying to improve gamestate(idk the specifc words but something like that) Tl(Slots that I think are town and wouldnt vote) Iavh: Despite the fact that I completely hate the way theyve done there opening(the stupid ass mechsolve), its not something that I think is scummy and from the reactions that iavh got for that I think that them seeming to not really care and stand by it is townie since from what I know from them, theyd succumb to the pressure and prob think theyre wrong or something. Theres a few people that I havent mentioned so far, and thats for a reason as these people are very special. The Lurkers! These mfs shouldnt be voted today but later on if they continue to do it then they prob should. Heres my opinion of them from "least to most villagery" schias words Yosh Micro Cuddz Tan Winter But thats it reads wise, there is one more thing that I think will help gamestate somewhat and thats below: Anyways for slots that havent been here so far or havent posted(and for slots that are active as well) heres some questions that I have: (Copying this questions shit from fame) What do you think about iavhs mechsolve and do you think its ai or not? Whats your stance on fame v clouds? What do you think about aligning fake claiming mason and do you think its something thats helpful to focus on? Do you agree or disagree with alignings reads on me, kliff and clouds? Whats your opinion on the current votes and who are slots that you think would be good votes rn? Anyways im kinda tired so im gonna get off for now but looking forward to hearing respones when I get back in prob like an hour! Erm, actually, it was penguind I pushed, not clouds! fck |
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 11:20:33 GMT
hi i will read while high reread while not high and still come to the same conclusions cuddz when is that gonna be u always high |
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 13:17:02 GMT
smh no vote count?
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Post by Prodigu on Dec 22, 2023 14:32:04 GMT
You know, actually, after thinking about Prod, it'd actually be more concerning if they had more answers than questions atp, but I still agree with my initial point that you're lacking any real opinions outside of a few so-so posts Unvote Prodigu
Ngl out of all of the reasons anyone has ever given to vote me this is tbh one of the best reasons so far. Gonna just summarize some of my thoughts thus far and put them in a place together for myself to work off of (note i havent read more stuff / read into more stuff just yet) Town: Schia : Heavily based off thread entrance and first impressions but it has me leaning more of a Town!Schia here STP & Iavh : Unpartnered (placing this here in case either flips scum) Not gonna rehash the argument but another thought i had after the post was that i genuinely dont see a partner entering thread swinging at their own partner here Clouds & Fame: Ive read their early game conversation like two or three times so far, and for the life of me i cant get a good impression of my own thoughts on the matter fwiw i think this is either a tvt or a svs convo i do not think this is a svt conversation, a scum!Clouds and a scum!Fame could imo very realistically have had that conversation and its well within their own scum ranges to have done so. I feel like theres more to be said about this convo but im not sure what that is rn. However. Fames vote on me: Oddly i feel like this vote is coming more from a place of good faith rather than being “fake” I read this moreso as “I want you to be more active in the thread thus is why i am voting you” and “I have expected more from you so far and you havent done so” feels like Fame wants me to engage in the thread more than i have done so thus far instead of the feeling that Fame is trying to push me with mal intent so for this reasoning id say Fame and Clouds are likely town here aorn Gonna try to read a little and update as i go i kinda have a very light SR rn but dont wanna voice that in this post as i wanna take a look back and do a little bit of reading first before doing so |
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 14:35:03 GMT
You know, actually, after thinking about Prod, it'd actually be more concerning if they had more answers than questions atp, but I still agree with my initial point that you're lacking any real opinions outside of a few so-so posts Unvote Prodigu
Ngl out of all of the reasons anyone has ever given to vote me this is tbh one of the best reasons so far. Gonna just summarize some of my thoughts thus far and put them in a place together for myself to work off of (note i havent read more stuff / read into more stuff just yet) Town: Schia : Heavily based off thread entrance and first impressions but it has me leaning more of a Town!Schia here STP & Iavh : Unpartnered (placing this here in case either flips scum) Not gonna rehash the argument but another thought i had after the post was that i genuinely dont see a partner entering thread swinging at their own partner here Clouds & Fame: Ive read their early game conversation like two or three times so far, and for the life of me i cant get a good impression of my own thoughts on the matter fwiw i think this is either a tvt or a svs convo i do not think this is a svt conversation, a scum!Clouds and a scum!Fame could imo very realistically have had that conversation and its well within their own scum ranges to have done so. I feel like theres more to be said about this convo but im not sure what that is rn. However. Fames vote on me: Oddly i feel like this vote is coming more from a place of good faith rather than being “fake” I read this moreso as “I want you to be more active in the thread thus is why i am voting you” and “I have expected more from you so far and you havent done so” feels like Fame wants me to engage in the thread more than i have done so thus far instead of the feeling that Fame is trying to push me with mal intent so for this reasoning id say Fame and Clouds are likely town here aorn Gonna try to read a little and update as i go i kinda have a very light SR rn but dont wanna voice that in this post as i wanna take a look back and do a little bit of reading first before doing so Very light sr on who... |
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Post by Prodigu on Dec 22, 2023 14:47:57 GMT
Ngl out of all of the reasons anyone has ever given to vote me this is tbh one of the best reasons so far. Gonna just summarize some of my thoughts thus far and put them in a place together for myself to work off of (note i havent read more stuff / read into more stuff just yet) Town: Schia : Heavily based off thread entrance and first impressions but it has me leaning more of a Town!Schia here STP & Iavh : Unpartnered (placing this here in case either flips scum) Not gonna rehash the argument but another thought i had after the post was that i genuinely dont see a partner entering thread swinging at their own partner here Clouds & Fame: Ive read their early game conversation like two or three times so far, and for the life of me i cant get a good impression of my own thoughts on the matter fwiw i think this is either a tvt or a svs convo i do not think this is a svt conversation, a scum!Clouds and a scum!Fame could imo very realistically have had that conversation and its well within their own scum ranges to have done so. I feel like theres more to be said about this convo but im not sure what that is rn. However. Fames vote on me: Oddly i feel like this vote is coming more from a place of good faith rather than being “fake” I read this moreso as “I want you to be more active in the thread thus is why i am voting you” and “I have expected more from you so far and you havent done so” feels like Fame wants me to engage in the thread more than i have done so thus far instead of the feeling that Fame is trying to push me with mal intent so for this reasoning id say Fame and Clouds are likely town here aorn Gonna try to read a little and update as i go i kinda have a very light SR rn but dont wanna voice that in this post as i wanna take a look back and do a little bit of reading first before doing so Very light sr on who... Aligning, i looked back a little and got the impression of “scum that wants to be active in thread but doesnt know what to say” Like i feel like hes weirdly confident on his TR on Kliff and said “i have a specific reason but ill come to it later” normally would think Mason initially but ik this isnt the case atp. Part of it is like, potentially voiced tmi accidentally got questioned for it and didnt have a great reasoning so gave a not so great reasoning and came back to say “i have a reason… but ill delve into it later” so like it just gives me a negative impression of the slot rn I wanna push this and see what comes of it so ill Vote Aligning for rn |
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 14:52:00 GMT
omg ty so much prod I needed the pressure on them
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Post by Prodigu on Dec 22, 2023 15:15:12 GMT
it's far too early to tell but my initial reaction was that some of the stuff they've been chiming in with is just like, not things i'd expect fame to care about as much as they seem like they are? for example fame's reaction to me townleaning iavh felt overexaggerated & then half of what i was saying was mischaracterized, i'm just not sure if that was by design yet then i'm not sure what would make someone at this point in the game have an alignment read on kliff, but less so that it's more like *specifically* fame townreading kliff off of the posts he's put out so far doesn't make sense to me from what i know about fame's formation of townreads when they're town it would be funny if fame got mafia for what i think would be a third game in a row honestly, as someone who is historically dogshit at reading kliff & thinks he's just naturally wolfy half the time, might be a good exercise to like
try and pick out some things he might be v!read for here
This proposal by Schia comes off as townie here imo, gives off the vibe of “I dont want Kliff to be misread by the entire PL so im gonna stop that here before it starts” which imo is a pretty good look, like i dont think this is scum trying to get their partner to be TR by the rest of the PL which i think is an interpretation that could be made, but more of a desiring of wanting Kliff to be read into better. (Not better as in townie better but better as in better reasoning / quality of read) Fwiw i do think he got seriously misread in Classic / Tropicana so i think its a worthwhile thing to attempt to do here |
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Post by Prodigu on Dec 22, 2023 15:37:53 GMT
Ok so I've been taking a look at recent reads and messages. From what i can see right now, STP definitely reads me as town. They've made good contributions and put effort into starting to solve the game. At the moment, I'm unsure on the myan slot until we get an answer to kliff's question. I have a slight partner read on myan and Fame, but I'll look more into that once we see more messages from them Is there a post in particular that gave you the feeling of Fame + Myan here? Or is this just an gut read |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 22, 2023 15:47:21 GMT
Prob won't be around for DL but where I'm at is like Kliff is prob town - already explained that before STP is prob town - post abt aligning is pretty good, they kinda do the opposite of what I'd expect scum to do by being aggressive towards aligning after what could've been a decent pocket opportunity or forced townread that went over well Schia looks good to me although I'm tentative here bc I think Schia is capable of seeming town just by doing something in an environment where a lot of ppl can struggle to do anything. At least from what I see I think some of the stuff they've picked up on is pretty town motivated though Clouds I need to reread my interactions with when I can be bothered Prod is a bit of a background character here I feel their posts are never really here or there. Could be a playstyle thing but I'd like some more judgements from you rather than these interjections that are devoid of any personal opinion on the game Thought something seemed a bit insincere between PengD/Myan earlier, some whack RVS from Peng with a weird justification that I think is kinda ironic for him strong post, agreed on stp & schia, kliff maybe i just need to get there somehow if you want to try to make anything out of those peng posts then toss me some pro tips, i feel like there is zero difference between his mafia & town initial day 1s |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 22, 2023 15:52:39 GMT
also there is no "clouds vs fame" so if anyone tries pushing that then let me know and i'll send them a job application to somewhere
i don't even have any thoughts beyond level 1 on fame's alignment right now, i just felt like we were on different wavelengths at the start of the game & some of their posts/reads didn't make sense to me from what i would think t!fame would be seeing in this game... but they've improved a little over time, and i like their post that's just their reads point blank without trying to feather along some sort of overblown scumread or be uncharitable, which is more what i'm used to seeing them do as mafia
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 15:54:05 GMT
honestly, as someone who is historically dogshit at reading kliff & thinks he's just naturally wolfy half the time, might be a good exercise to like
try and pick out some things he might be v!read for here
This proposal by Schia comes off as townie here imo, gives off the vibe of “I dont want Kliff to be misread by the entire PL so im gonna stop that here before it starts” which imo is a pretty good look, like i dont think this is scum trying to get their partner to be TR by the rest of the PL which i think is an interpretation that could be made, but more of a desiring of wanting Kliff to be read into better. (Not better as in townie better but better as in better reasoning / quality of read) Fwiw i do think he got seriously misread in Classic / Tropicana so i think its a worthwhile thing to attempt to do here I dont really get how it comes off like that bc its not really directed to the entire player list, I think its more of "I usually misread kliff so I'm gonna try to read them better" or some shit like that. This doesnt really show them trying to tell the entire pl to do this but something that they want to do themselves. Can't really think this is a town line bc scum could easily just say this and do nothing(idt theyve actually acted on this line yet). |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 22, 2023 15:59:15 GMT
Fame: something to be cognizant of is that both pisx and prod have called us the same alignment in pisx's case tvt lean and prod said we're either tvt or svs, which are both like... interesting perspectives i guess, if 1 of them is mafia you're probably town
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Post by yoshman8 on Dec 22, 2023 16:04:39 GMT
Fame just sent me on a mini roller coaster for their read on prod and I’m all for it This doesn't really give any info as to why, just blindly trusting someone |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 22, 2023 16:11:35 GMT
I have a slight partner read on myan and Fame, but I'll look more into that once we see more messages from them can you shed more light on what made you think that if possible? i'm not sure if myan hypes up fame's prod read the way they did if myan & fame is svs |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 22, 2023 16:12:57 GMT
Fame just sent me on a mini roller coaster for their read on prod and I’m all for it This doesn't really give any info as to why, just blindly trusting someone ah i see so i think you kindaaa have your heart in the right place here but this is less likely to come from partners imo. typically they're gonna care a little more about distancing than to do this like let's say prod is town and fame & myan are both mafia, they both look awful if they get prod to flip and set themselves up for trouble. it's not worth it from an svs perspective |
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 16:13:29 GMT
fcking dammit yosh is doing the exact same thing as last game
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Post by Clouds on Dec 22, 2023 16:15:25 GMT
vote micromorphic
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Post by Prodigu on Dec 22, 2023 16:16:14 GMT
This proposal by Schia comes off as townie here imo, gives off the vibe of “I dont want Kliff to be misread by the entire PL so im gonna stop that here before it starts” which imo is a pretty good look, like i dont think this is scum trying to get their partner to be TR by the rest of the PL which i think is an interpretation that could be made, but more of a desiring of wanting Kliff to be read into better. (Not better as in townie better but better as in better reasoning / quality of read) Fwiw i do think he got seriously misread in Classic / Tropicana so i think its a worthwhile thing to attempt to do here I dont really get how it comes off like that bc its not really directed to the entire player list, I think its more of "I usually misread kliff so I'm gonna try to read them better" or some shit like that. This doesnt really show them trying to tell the entire pl to do this but something that they want to do themselves. Can't really think this is a town line bc scum could easily just say this and do nothing(idt theyve actually acted on this line yet). Could i be wrong and misunderstanding? Yea. I got the impression that Schia wanted to express this to the rest of the PL because they said that it could be a worthwhile exercise to do, fwiw im taking into mind Tropicana and Classic here where Kliff was definitely misread as scum both times, as reasons for why Schia could be expressing this to the rest of the PL (note: Schia was not in Classic but Kliff was SR early there as well) |
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 16:16:51 GMT
Fame just sent me on a mini roller coaster for their read on prod and I’m all for it This doesn't really give any info as to why, just blindly trusting someone is this the reason u think theyre scum? Or is it just an observation that ur making. |
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 16:20:54 GMT
I dont really get how it comes off like that bc its not really directed to the entire player list, I think its more of "I usually misread kliff so I'm gonna try to read them better" or some shit like that. This doesnt really show them trying to tell the entire pl to do this but something that they want to do themselves. Can't really think this is a town line bc scum could easily just say this and do nothing(idt theyve actually acted on this line yet). Could i be wrong and misunderstanding? Yea. I got the impression that Schia wanted to express this to the rest of the PL because they said that it could be a worthwhile exercise to do, fwiw im taking into mind Tropicana and Classic here where Kliff was definitely misread as scum both times, as reasons for why Schia could be expressing this to the rest of the PL (note: Schia was not in Classic but Kliff was SR early there as well) if they were trying to express that then they would say it i think, and being misread in some games doesnt guarentee that theyre not scum here or some shit like that if thats what ur thinkng but even if its to the entire playerlist what does the line even do and what even makes that townie? Like scum can just say that as well on a random slot and it wouldnt be that hard, idt its ai at all since its so easy to do as both alignments even if the reason that they did it that u said is true |
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 16:26:35 GMT
ok so whats the point of this vote? Like they havent even been here, how do u have a read on them? |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 22, 2023 16:28:31 GMT
ok so whats the point of this vote? Like they havent even been here, how do u have a read on them? they have been here, page 1, made an early entrance and dipped before saying anything relevant not a scumread vote per se, just want to light the fire and i'd rather keep active slots alive for day 1 for obvious reasons |
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 22, 2023 16:30:15 GMT
Yeah true but if micros town then we just end up having nothing for d2 as well which id rather not have.
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