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Post by AligningStars on Dec 21, 2023 6:27:26 GMT
im not mason. i got diff role, alignment is still town
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Post by PenguinD on Dec 21, 2023 6:32:05 GMT
im not mason. i got diff role, alignment is still town i cant believe you folded :(
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Post by PenguinD on Dec 21, 2023 6:32:44 GMT
vote derz found the goon
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Post by Fame on Dec 21, 2023 6:42:22 GMT
trying to solve a bit ok so what we got mason, named townie iavh trying to setupsolve: town PRs: neapolitan (checks for vt), jk / doc (one should be in there if I'm not wrong given the abundantness of them encountering them in MS closed setups), gated investgative (os cop / gated tracker/watcher (2-3 shots)), maybe a vig though not counting on the chances of it (1-2 shot), other mason, +whatever fen decides to put here, I've seen hider in these I wonder if the mason is there as a red herring... looked really scummy to claim mason SoD1 scum PRs: roleblocker (most common), might be a neapolitan here, on the other hand could be a role cop. wonder if they would put a doc/jk here for a fakeclaim (looks smth like a not myan to do, myan cs is straightforward kek) that's my input for the day #1 aligningstars mason claim is not real #2 what makes you think any of those scum roles exist or are you just taking a shot in the dark #3 this level of theorizing looks kinda good for you so i'll take it also not sure i want to say anything about aligningstars's alignment on second thought, think he's more frozen in chat mafia and possible that would bleed over to forums moreso in a first mafia rand on forums no serious thoughts about his alignment yet Theorising -> Speculation And you've played games with scum IAVH before where they've grasped at roles/mechanics to 'solve', even if you don't remember this it's pretty obvious that solving the playerlist for PRs and centralising all of your early play around it is actually Mafia sided? Not really concerned w/ IAVH rn but you're letting on less than you know what makes you say iavh's setup solving attempt seems like it could be fake kliff? You already know why and how it could be fake, hence why you asked if the original post was a 'shot in the dark' because you know it's a closed set up and there's no way to verify that literally any of those roles exist at SOD1
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Post by Fame on Dec 21, 2023 6:47:26 GMT
Don’t like kliff downplaying my shit already Sure thing ig I’ll just leave that there But don’t disregard it IMO if you're actually wanting to read IAVH's alignment these posts are most telling Is town more likely to assume someone is scum downplaying their contributions to the thread or are they more likely to ask 'What's useful instead?" in this scenario Not really asking this rhetorically so feel free to answer bc I don't really know and it's early in the morning for me
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Post by Fame on Dec 21, 2023 6:55:57 GMT
I think Kliff's posts there were pretty authentic like I'd ask the exact same questions atp I think
Also I kinda like his reaction to pisx's post even though I don't really agree with the initial post being much of anything bc pisx is prob gonna AFK either way
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Post by Clouds on Dec 21, 2023 7:04:54 GMT
I mean I appreciate the attempted but like I am just not following the meaning behind the post at this point of the game. The post comes off as "I'm doing stuff" to me. which isn't a good look to me. Think criticism of the first part is actually relatively fair here, stp & iavh being unpaired is a thought i kind of had myself atm based on early interaction genuinely got the impression based on Stps tone was kind of annoyed / frustrated with what iavh said which is something i dont relatively expect of a partner at least not in the early game nah kliff is talking about clem's post there with the criticism, not mine
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Post by Clouds on Dec 21, 2023 7:06:46 GMT
what makes you say iavh's setup solving attempt seems like it could be fake kliff? You already know why and how it could be fake, hence why you asked if the original post was a 'shot in the dark' because you know it's a closed set up and there's no way to verify that literally any of those roles exist at SOD1 that is like... not what i was going for there, of course clem's setup predictions aren't gonna be spot on i just wanted to know what made kliff think iavh's setup solving seemed fake
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Post by Clouds on Dec 21, 2023 7:09:51 GMT
#1 aligningstars mason claim is not real #2 what makes you think any of those scum roles exist or are you just taking a shot in the dark #3 this level of theorizing looks kinda good for you so i'll take it also not sure i want to say anything about aligningstars's alignment on second thought, think he's more frozen in chat mafia and possible that would bleed over to forums moreso in a first mafia rand on forums no serious thoughts about his alignment yet Theorising -> Speculation And you've played games with scum IAVH before where they've grasped at roles/mechanics to 'solve', even if you don't remember this it's pretty obvious that solving the playerlist for PRs and centralising all of your early play around it is actually Mafia sided? Not really concerned w/ IAVH rn but you're letting on less than you know he's not here trying to maliciously out PRs, he's just making setup predictions like how is any of what he's doing right now mafia sided lol, it'd be 1 thing if he was trying to connect roles to players but he's not you said yourself you don't have a problem with him right now so?
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Post by Clouds on Dec 21, 2023 7:12:46 GMT
would love to hear why Clouds thinks prot is town considering this is the only game so far I've immediately disliked their posts he just seemed more charged up here it's not anything beyond a soft townlean anyways, i don't have great reasons for it, i'll give it time
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Post by Fame on Dec 21, 2023 7:21:22 GMT
Theorising -> Speculation And you've played games with scum IAVH before where they've grasped at roles/mechanics to 'solve', even if you don't remember this it's pretty obvious that solving the playerlist for PRs and centralising all of your early play around it is actually Mafia sided? Not really concerned w/ IAVH rn but you're letting on less than you know he's not here trying to maliciously out PRs, he's just making setup predictions like how is any of what he's doing right now mafia sided lol, it'd be 1 thing if he was trying to connect roles to players but he's not you said yourself you don't have a problem with him right now so? It's not a claim about IAVH's alignment at all, it's about your approach to it Like, you're quick to make judgements about things that I think have fairly reasonable alternatives "he's not here trying to maliciously out PRs, he's just making setup predictions" What makes you think it's not just bait? I literally watched you hunt the thread in Classic for PR softs so surely you know how that type of posting leads to people softing or outing themselves indirectly as PRs
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Post by Clouds on Dec 21, 2023 7:30:33 GMT
he's not here trying to maliciously out PRs, he's just making setup predictions like how is any of what he's doing right now mafia sided lol, it'd be 1 thing if he was trying to connect roles to players but he's not you said yourself you don't have a problem with him right now so? It's not a claim about IAVH's alignment at all, it's about your approach to it Like, you're quick to make judgements about things that I think have fairly reasonable alternatives "he's not here trying to maliciously out PRs, he's just making setup predictions" What makes you think it's not just bait? I literally watched you hunt the thread in Classic for PR softs so surely you know how that type of posting leads to people softing or outing themselves indirectly as PRs fame... of course it can have an alternative, everything has alternatives, i'm not here to say "it could be this but also this" unless i don't have an opinion, but in this case i do, so i'm airing it like you can say "why didn't you consider that it's bait!?" as if it's not a thought that would cross my mind, but i'm seeing what clem is writing and it doesn't look like he's coming in here with the intention of trying to secretly out PRs like some mafia mob boss. i'm trying to understand what the actual problem you have with my approach is here, that you think i should be thinking it's bait? or that you think i'm not considering it enough? if you're not viewing what clem's doing as alignment indicative in 1 way or another, how do you have that strong of an opinion about me forming some semblance of an alignment indicative judgment on it? which, for what it's worth, isn't even something i've dived into much, i just definitely didn't interpret it as baiting at all i guess maybe i can see your point of view if you're thinking that i shouldn't be immediately jumping to the conclusion that it's a good look for him. but like, emphasis on "good" not "great" there, i mean did you not see clem's entrance and think it was at least a little positive? are you flat-out null across the board on him?
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Post by iavh on Dec 21, 2023 7:41:20 GMT
Why am I always the talking point of d1 when there’s no substance 😭😭
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Post by Fame on Dec 21, 2023 7:46:05 GMT
Why am I always the talking point of d1 when there’s no substance 😭😭 I think it's lowkey just because you're usually an early poster, so people interact with you early & so it's the first thing people see and comment on in the thread Prob other reasons too but like that's usually the trend I think
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Post by Clouds on Dec 21, 2023 7:48:43 GMT
slowthepoke iamveryhappy
1 firmer tr & 1 softer tr at this point
no prod on this list since i can reasonably justify it even if it's a slight gut feel
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Post by Clouds on Dec 21, 2023 7:49:03 GMT
slowthepoke iamveryhappy
1 firmer tr & 1 softer tr at this point
no prod on this list since i can reasonably justify it even if it's a slight gut feel
can't, not can
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Post by Fame on Dec 21, 2023 7:58:20 GMT
It's not a claim about IAVH's alignment at all, it's about your approach to it Like, you're quick to make judgements about things that I think have fairly reasonable alternatives "he's not here trying to maliciously out PRs, he's just making setup predictions" What makes you think it's not just bait? I literally watched you hunt the thread in Classic for PR softs so surely you know how that type of posting leads to people softing or outing themselves indirectly as PRs fame... of course it can have an alternative, everything has alternatives, i'm not here to say "it could be this but also this" unless i don't have an opinion, but in this case i do, so i'm airing it like you can say "why didn't you consider that it's bait!?" as if it's not a thought that would cross my mind, but i'm seeing what clem is writing and it doesn't look like he's coming in here with the intention of trying to secretly out PRs like some mafia mob boss. i'm trying to understand what the actual problem you have with my approach is here, that you think i should be thinking it's bait? or that you think i'm not considering it enough? if you're not viewing what clem's doing as alignment indicative in 1 way or another, how do you have that strong of an opinion about me forming some semblance of an alignment indicative judgment on it? which, for what it's worth, isn't even something i've dived into much, i just definitely didn't interpret it as baiting at all i guess maybe i can see your point of view if you're thinking that i shouldn't be immediately jumping to the conclusion that it's a good look for him. but like, emphasis on "good" not "great" there, i mean did you not see clem's entrance and think it was at least a little positive? are you flat-out null across the board on him? I think what I said is coming across as "you should literally be laying out every reason for why someone could be town or scum in this instance" Mostly I just had doubts in how much you really believed that to be a good look, which if you truly believe that, cool, but it's just not the read I would expect you to come to Like I already said, seen him do similar stuff before as scum so not really wanting to rule it out that quickly I think resorting to stuff like "it's working against me" & "downplaying my posts" in response to Kliff could easily be smth scummy I'm not completely null on his alignment, just undecided
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Post by Fame on Dec 21, 2023 8:14:06 GMT
I like Prod's post about STP/IAVH being unpartnered
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Post by Fame on Dec 21, 2023 8:58:53 GMT
STP is really townie, that post about aligning looks really good
STP & Kliff are my main townreads I think
Not sure what to say about anyone else yet
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Post by AligningStars on Dec 21, 2023 9:04:55 GMT
STP is really townie, that post about aligning looks really good STP & Kliff are my main townreads I think Not sure what to say about anyone else yet how does steps post look like good
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Post by Fame on Dec 21, 2023 9:20:47 GMT
STP is really townie, that post about aligning looks really good STP & Kliff are my main townreads I think Not sure what to say about anyone else yet how does steps post look like good Bringing attention to the fact you're new & not letting a potentially unfair examination of you slide just looked selfless to me I mean, idk, what did you think of it? Selfless or do you think it's not that great of a post?
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 21, 2023 11:18:31 GMT
theres actually a decent chance alignings claim is real, theyve claimed pr in chat mafia many timez(for whatever fucking reason) either way, them claiming mason doesnt actually change what alignment they could be dont remeber doing that. once didnt claim a pr, i was voted i was cop I 100 percent do remember that, maybe it wasnt as much as I think u did it but at the least Ik that uve done it before
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Post by slowthepoke on Dec 21, 2023 12:05:22 GMT
im not mason. i got diff role, alignment is still town ok just saw this and the only thing I gotta ask is… what was the point of that and what were u even going for? Its orob nai but rn slight t!aligning
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Post by iavh on Dec 21, 2023 12:13:03 GMT
I feel like this gets more and more awkward the more the game advances also stp you need to post faster to break the schia record kek
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Post by AligningStars on Dec 21, 2023 12:16:22 GMT
I feel like this gets more and more awkward the more the game advances also stp you need to post faster to break the schia record kek lol where are they anyways
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