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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 11, 2024 2:31:54 GMT
im feeling fruity today (get it?) That was terrible |
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 11, 2024 3:29:19 GMT
im feeling fruity today (get it?) That was terrible Kinda wanna vote u just for saying that but it isnt d1 anymore |
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Post by Clouds on Feb 11, 2024 5:51:47 GMT
anyways, as far as my own reads go, i think 2 slots are the most likely partners for Clouds. 1. Toni - Clouds really feels like they're ignoring toni, this could just be bc toni is inactive as of rn but then again theres like no interactions and the fact that Clouds was first on ptsd wagon draws attention and toni is just an icky slot in general in fact i kinda regret not voting them d1 2. Prod - Clouds shifting from voting me to prod after some ppl are speculating into them being partnered is weird, especially with clouds not explaining the prod vote or making a post to encourage the vote at all thanks, moderately believable are you sure i'm mafia though? |
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Post by Clouds on Feb 11, 2024 5:54:34 GMT
do we just have a confirmed win actually this is too hasty, but i think follow the towncore of you, ftf & stp and just reevaluate if there's serious cause for concern feeling like we need to figure out which one of abc and prod flips mafia and which one flips town. idt they're together, but ftf and i both agree that this has 1 mafia in it right now i'm voting prod just because i feel a little shakier with his presence today |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 11, 2024 7:23:28 GMT
yo clouds my brain doesnt feel like processing information rn fsr and i cant find why you and ftf think crespo doesnt pair with prod here could u just explain it for me rq :^)
the wagonomics don't make sense to me
prod's relative indifference between the two major wagons signals unaligned to me
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 11, 2024 7:24:37 GMT
so from there I think
abcaba has individually been trending downwards while stp holds steady for the aforementioned dunning-krueger stuff
and then if i build from there
I also think clouds going from ptsd->turtwig in consecutive phases signals a weak worldview to me
I don't think I have reason to believe clouds and abcaba are partnered (im not sure if stp has two individual team guesses or he just thinks contrary to this assertion)
I think abcaba has been individually scummier than clouds
I think forcing stp to stay on abcaba wagon with me is good for the solve
and it's convenient that I don't have to chainvote in case the abcaba read goes belly up bc i can just inspect clouds if it does
so with all that in mind
vote abcaba
Tf is dunning krueger ftf gotta explain these shits  |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 11, 2024 7:25:25 GMT
vote abcaba
good chance im not here for dl again and this currently the vote i feel the best about
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 11, 2024 10:04:55 GMT
Tf is dunning krueger ftf gotta explain these shits Ur acting like i cant just shift back to clouds. Not that i will, since i see them in a more townie light after reevaluation but i will say that u have NO control over who i vote. |
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 11, 2024 10:05:42 GMT
so from there I think
abcaba has individually been trending downwards while stp holds steady for the aforementioned dunning-krueger stuff
and then if i build from there
I also think clouds going from ptsd->turtwig in consecutive phases signals a weak worldview to me
I don't think I have reason to believe clouds and abcaba are partnered (im not sure if stp has two individual team guesses or he just thinks contrary to this assertion)
I think abcaba has been individually scummier than clouds
I think forcing stp to stay on abcaba wagon with me is good for the solve
and it's convenient that I don't have to chainvote in case the abcaba read goes belly up bc i can just inspect clouds if it does
so with all that in mind
vote abcaba
Was in response to this line btw |
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Post by Clouds on Feb 11, 2024 12:04:38 GMT
why do you think i'm town now
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Post by Prodigu on Feb 11, 2024 14:26:01 GMT
think i'm having trouble with this notion of "we need to look at the other votes on the ptsd wagon" & then you shrugging off me and ftf's votes by saying they're nai and that you're looking at them in a better context(?) if i'm understanding correctly, so that'd leave just sc, but you don't seem to be laying into sc much for it just kinda noncommittal surface level comments about the vote being bad, without any semblance of direction or how it'd translate to a read. which maybe will come later, i know you said you had a headache so no worries if you need the time. but hopefully you can see my concern with how it looks like the comments about the ptsd wagon needing to be looked into is then contradicted in a sense by you not thinking anything comes out of me and ftf's votes, then just making observational comments about how sc's vote is sheepy without ending at any conclusion Nah i wasnt shrugging them off, i shouldve put it in better context ig, So me talking about you and ftf placing your votes and saying im looking at those in better light is b/c iirc at least there was at least 1-2 mentions that said it was scummy to place them and leave, and i think theres just out of game reasons for why you both cant rly make deadline [during the week] so i wanted to separate that reasoning and say its not AI (if that makes sense) (trying to say realistically the route of you both placing ur votes and leaving isnt a good reasoning for why youd be scummy for it) The parts that DO have me saying this is interesting and worth looking at is SCs vote and your vote Like i had previously said Ptsd ended up coming out w/ a strongish? Tr on Crespo but later kinda back tracked on it a bit saltiestcactus23 it feels like ur vote was mainly sheeping Clouds, iirc you said no one was calling Ptsd out on his Crespo read, but how come you never called him out yourself? Or it didnt look like u did at least, ie: how come you waited till then to vote ptsd and not earlier if you were already recognizing your greiveances with his slot? |
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Post by Prodigu on Feb 11, 2024 14:32:27 GMT
anyways, as far as my own reads go, i think 2 slots are the most likely partners for Clouds. 1. Toni - Clouds really feels like they're ignoring toni, this could just be bc toni is inactive as of rn but then again theres like no interactions and the fact that Clouds was first on ptsd wagon draws attention and toni is just an icky slot in general in fact i kinda regret not voting them d1 2. Prod - Clouds shifting from voting me to prod after some ppl are speculating into them being partnered is weird, especially with clouds not explaining the prod vote or making a post to encourage the vote at all Ill come back to replying to Clouds in a sec I think Clouds was already expressing having doubts about my slot earlier though? Idt his vote on me feels that weird / out of place tbh like think ~sod that he was remaking his townlist and had already taken me off of it so he was reevaluating my slot at the time |
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 11, 2024 14:40:47 GMT
why do you think i'm town now Nooo ur still scummy, i just saw some lines that I think MIGHT have come from a t! clouds and that i think are genunine |
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Post by Prodigu on Feb 11, 2024 14:52:56 GMT
Originally it wasnt going to be on Crespo [my vote wasnt Crespo into voting PTSD, it was Vote Crespo, Unvote, Vote PTSD], i unvoted before that. I was coming to the idea of ptsd + turt being a possible team as you had suggested earlier, and then Turt at the time made some semi-weird posts in my eyes and i started questioning / pushing him b/c of it [This is probably why STP is saying a potential partnership btwn me + turt is unlikely here] so I voted PTSD thinking: if he flips scum im going to Turt next as i thought a potential partnership was there, and wanted to explore that option first b/c at the minimum a PTSD vote wouldve gotten us more information into other slots than voting Crespo who at the time, and still at the time doesnt have a lot of content to make much out of / wouldnt get us much So at EOD essentially it was 3 PTSD 3 Crespo, with Plur on PTSD so had i done nothing PTSD was still going over at the time I have some reservations about shifting plur that close to EOD as i myself look at it in a not great light, and i also was currently not on a vote at the time, and wanted to at least place an opinion somewhere rather than nowhere (which was obviously wrong atp as PTSD flipped T) I did fully know coming into D2 that i probably wouldnt be looked at well if PTSD flipped town, but i also know well enough that youd (not necessarily you but i think other players in the thread in general) prob be looking at me similarly (somewhat at least) if i had no vote Not just about wanting to not shift plur, Crespo was also actively not at EOD and PTSD had claimed HT another point about not wanting to vote Crespo ended up also boiling down to: I dont want to accidentally D1 the afk FV, lemme context it with: no i dont think Crespo is necessarily the FV or not, but it came out of a: if PTSD was FV i would just unvote him immediately and shift plur to Crespo instead Rn i think its interesting that youre pairing me + Turt as potential so id like to see why you think a partnership is there, additionally i think if you wanted to pair me with someone here Crespo should be the highest likelihood if i flip mafia based off of that EOD, Fwiw i think the other votes on PTSD wagon should be looked at which i feel is somewhat being overlooked to an extent atm, like SC's vote was pmuch just a sheep on you (idr if he had more progression than that or not as i have a headache while writing this and am not looking back rn), i do think your vote was interesting as well when you based it on ptsd having tmi on Crespo but later (before your vote) he himself somewhat backtracked on his TR/TL on Crespo and said something of the effect that it was too strong at the time (idr his exact words but ik he addressed it to some extent again im not reading back atm) i think thats something you would have caught / seen, i currently dont have much comments on Flush's vote moreso b/c i dont super remember the context at the time so looking back and seeing if i have any thoughts about it is a point i should at least take a look at. I do also relatively think that, you and flush parking ur votes there and not being around eod is more nai than anything (iirc ik there was some commenting about it but im ok with overlooking it atm) b/c the DL is at a semi-weird time more weird for me less weird for host mainly weird b/c thats around when im getting home from work / not a time im super around so i am looking at you both not being at eod in a better context Think the best things rn for us is looking into ptsd wagon (which we are to some extent) and try to partner / unpartner ppl I think the latter is something heavily important b/c its only 2 mafia so if we can end up reasoning some partnerships out that probably helps us in the longrun (which i will be actively doing once i no longer have a headache q-q) Ill try to make an effort to be back later with some condensed thoughts / unpartnerships the bolded is the line i'm talking about stp but anyways to respond to you prod, i'm not gonna fault you on your reasons for voting ptsd, it also sorta tracks with what i was thinking in terms of info gained but maybe not to the same degree. for you & turt, there's not really anything that explicitly suggests you're partnered, it's more just shuffling around my poe with pairings that i can't rule out. and yeah, last phase i was gonna have to park my vote regardless, i'm with you there in that weekdays are too busy atm to claw into the game ironically you saying you & crespo should be the most likely pair directly to me makes me lean more towards you not partnering, lol so wdyt about crespo as a slot then? i feel like the game is fairly solveable if his alignment can be worked out, because it'd tell us a ton about day 1 wagons. at the same time, i don't think i want to vote him right now because i'm more in the camp of him being town based on the positioning of the players in my poe. so it's a tough spot to be in, & hopefully he shows up here and cooks Putting this in here that i hate trying to read into slots that have 5 posts which i think is something similar to wut youre expressing here, I think theres ~2 posts that are semi-more productive than his others Think this is like typical Crespo —> posts D1 and nothing else im like having trouble forming a towning argument for him, i do think having his alignment so that we know the 2 D1 Wagons isnt all that bad im also like conversly trying to see a scum argument and im having trouble with it too im fine with putting him at a flat null rn like i dont want to town him without finding decent reasoning into doing so |
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Post by Prodigu on Feb 11, 2024 15:05:19 GMT
Kinda have a similar weird feeling rn, i feel like theres some form of agenda going on with some regard in this eod [with Ptsd / Turt / Crespo / stuff surrounding them (im not saying theyre the ones pushing an agenda necessarily] atm just cant like exactly place it can you try to explain more what you were thinking with the agenda here? and if you still feel this way looking back Yea i can try, like the wagons felt like semi all over the place a bit, like eod i was still thinking “i still dont super like either of these wagons rn” and didnt have a strong conviction towards either of them as necessarily being scum or not, i feel like me and Fame were having similarish thoughts but neither of us could rly place it at the time and i was hoping to be able to hash it out with him to figure out the feeling I feel like looking back maybe i was overestimating things and just expressing the sentiment of something feeling off im ok with putting it to the side for now |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 11, 2024 16:53:50 GMT
so from there I think
abcaba has individually been trending downwards while stp holds steady for the aforementioned dunning-krueger stuff
and then if i build from there
I also think clouds going from ptsd->turtwig in consecutive phases signals a weak worldview to me
I don't think I have reason to believe clouds and abcaba are partnered (im not sure if stp has two individual team guesses or he just thinks contrary to this assertion)
I think abcaba has been individually scummier than clouds
I think forcing stp to stay on abcaba wagon with me is good for the solve
and it's convenient that I don't have to chainvote in case the abcaba read goes belly up bc i can just inspect clouds if it does
so with all that in mind
vote abcaba
Was in response to this line btw
if the idea is that i think you wont push abcaba seriously despite sring him hard
and then you say "well i'll just switch to clouds"
then why do you think that's a point in your favour |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 11, 2024 16:57:31 GMT
ok i can shelf prod concerns for the moment i think abcaba is the best vote here atm
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 11, 2024 17:06:10 GMT
Was in response to this line btw
if the idea is that i think you wont push abcaba seriously despite sring him hard
and then you say "well i'll just switch to clouds"
then why do you think that's a point in your favourI have no intention to shift to clouds atm, theyre only a sl atm, im just saying that u cant force me to vote anyone, because I have other options. I dont think its a pooint in my favor lmao, im just warning u to not try to force my vote |
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 11, 2024 17:17:46 GMT
ok i can shelf prod concerns for the moment i think abcaba is the best vote here atm
At least we can agree on something |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Feb 11, 2024 17:27:01 GMT
need you to think critically for a moment
if the idea is that i think you wont push abcaba seriously despite sring him hard
and then you say "well i'll just switch to clouds"
then why do you think that's a point in your favour I have no intention to shift to clouds atm, theyre only a sl atm, im just saying that u cant force me to vote anyone, because I have other options. I dont think its a pooint in my favor lmao, im just warning u to not try to force my vote
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 11, 2024 17:28:40 GMT
I have no intention to shift to clouds atm, theyre only a sl atm, im just saying that u cant force me to vote anyone, because I have other options. I dont think its a pooint in my favor lmao, im just warning u to not try to force my vote
And there u go woth another thing i dont know, explain what “forests for the trees” is. |
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Post by iavh on Feb 11, 2024 18:03:34 GMT
Crespo has asked for replacement, and has been subbed out. As such, MyanMario has joined the game. As there is a sub, there is an extra 24 hours for Day 2. I will deal with the votecount in a bit.
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 11, 2024 18:07:22 GMT
Oooooh, hi myan!
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 11, 2024 18:14:06 GMT
Annoying that i gotta do another 24 hours of this tho smh i was ready to watch abcaba flip
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Post by iavh on Feb 11, 2024 18:45:48 GMT
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