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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 8, 2024 14:28:58 GMT
Why is turt townie as opposed to null They haven’t said anything alignment indicative oh wild that ur saying this when ur earlier turt line implys u thought them as town. |
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 8, 2024 14:33:03 GMT
Why is turt townie as opposed to null They haven’t said anything alignment indicative oh wild that ur saying this when ur earlier turt line implys u thought them as town. tone is townie imo |
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Post by Prodigu on Feb 8, 2024 14:34:42 GMT
K am back, was relatively tired yesterday lets see if i can comment on some stuff / look for any alignments / get myself a somewhat votepool gonna just reread and put some comments on stuff as a first thing to do
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Post by abcaba on Feb 8, 2024 14:40:43 GMT
Why is turt townie as opposed to null They haven’t said anything alignment indicative oh wild that ur saying this when ur earlier turt line implys u thought them as town. I’m talking abt what u think |
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 8, 2024 14:41:42 GMT
oh wild that ur saying this when ur earlier turt line implys u thought them as town. I’m talking abt what u think ok well if ur gonna ask me that im gonna ask that back. |
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 8, 2024 14:42:01 GMT
I’m talking abt what u think ok well if ur gonna ask me that im gonna ask that back. whats ur read on turt |
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Post by abcaba on Feb 8, 2024 14:43:20 GMT
Literally look back 5 posts
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 8, 2024 14:44:13 GMT
Literally look back 5 posts welp i disagree u on turts posts being nai but w/e |
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Post by Prodigu on Feb 8, 2024 14:46:21 GMT
anyways heres where everyone stands imo null - prod, clouds, turt prod and clouds haven't really said much, and turt's lines are nai - I don't think the entire filler convo between him and stp was staged towniest to least towniest PTSD, SC, toni, Fame, FTF, STP Feel like the only way where theres 2 scum in the first 5 names in my list of towniest to least towniest is a partnership betweeen fame and ftf, which although possible doesn't seem worth going into rn voting stp bc it kinda feels like they're pocketing SC and refusing to give any other reads besides "vote abc" Lmao no shot ur saying my reasoning is just “vote abcaba” when ive given multiple reasons but anyways yeah so i have other reads to u know. I also think ptsd is townish but in general there isnt much for me to gather reads since all of prod/fame/clouds/frf can prob just be scum and i woulndy know rn. Tuet looks townie but i wanna see reads from them or smth. Am gonna hope the bold works out, read this earlier looked at it in probably a worse light initially, but that aside, STP this somewhat reads to me as like you putting off reads into the 4 of out slots which i dont super get [ig i understand for me and Clouds where we currently dont have a lot of content to make much out of rn] but i do think Fame at least and prob Ftf do have enough content to make something out of / at least try to put some alignment towards Ik youre afraid of being wrong but like being wrong is fine and reevaluating your decisions later is something u can do, just b/c you say someone is town/scum doesnt mean u have to stick w/ it. Like are the 4 of us capable scum players? Yes. But theres a guaranteed 2 town minimum in the 4 of us that are worth finding, and at least stating u dont like the vibes from someone or scrutinizing someones post is worthwhile Like ig its prob worth it to try to pose us questions or look over what we say twice before committing to saying something but i can assure you the 4 of us are not all partnered with each other in a 10p game. Part of it feels somewhat like ur throwing ur hands up in the air and hoping were all nked i do think its worth it to find the guaranteed 2 town in here though |
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Post by saltiestcactus23 on Feb 8, 2024 14:51:27 GMT
tentative solve therefore if i take my trs as gospel is
abc/ptsd/stp has 0-1
cactus/turtwig/crespo has 0-2
can do some fun cross referencing with those groups if i have time tomorrow
and as far as night actions go, if you get fruited feel free to cop someone in your group to make things fun to parse for me
what exactly do 0-1 and 0-2 mean? amount of potential scum between those groups |
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Post by abcaba on Feb 8, 2024 14:53:04 GMT
Prod since you are here I’ll ask u what you think of the stp/turt interaction and turt in general
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Post by Prodigu on Feb 8, 2024 15:04:40 GMT
Prod since you are here I’ll ask u what you think of the stp/turt interaction and turt in general Pg 1-3 turt nothing stand out / filler (stp interaction w/ turt there is also just filler) Overall the interaction doesnt have anything in it that id be inclined to say they are not partners, just feels like such a filler convo there Think only other thing i saw from turt was like on pg 5? None of it is like really meaningful content to make a lot out of, ie: none of the content says to me they shouldnt be a D1 vote They havent done much to progress at all so if they have meaningful thoughts would like to see them |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 8, 2024 15:39:17 GMT
I mean a lot of it is coming from Crespo deciding to not pursue the STP angle, which is something which would be very easy for scum to capitalize on here. And them calling out Abcabas post as being kind of pointless adds to discussion and brings up a way of looking at Abcabas post that no one else had commentated on. My only real gripe with crespo right now is there hasnt been much follow through on anything yet, but its early D1 so im not taking away town points for that yet im currently listening to Leonard Cohen by Boygenius, banger song. "I never thought you'd happen to me" amazing line, me talking about my EiMM and PS addiction. could you expand on what you mean with the stp angle thing? Want to know what your thought process for that is. as for the abcaba thing, scum are capable of finding potentially scummy things that town players have done. at most feel like you could consider toni and abc being potentially unpartnered from that interaction, but dont think you can town toni for it. I think from my perspective it felt more of a town thing to not involve himself in pushing a STP V whoever narrative that wouldve been so easily set up. But Abcaba made a good point that it could just be a scum Toni trying to avoid conflict, so for now ill consider Toni more null/ a light townlean, but I stilll havent seen anything that directly makes me scumread the slot yet. But I will concede that Toni is not as townie as a I initally considered. I will respond more in a second but everything i've seen from Abcaba how been fairly townie, and I do not know how much a pocket that is. (Im currently listening to Here Comes The Sun, by the beatles. Its a great song very cheerful) |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 8, 2024 15:44:38 GMT
This feels natural for STP, and I am not going to rule out STP vs Abcaba as potential SvT but if it is I am leaning towards Abcaba being scum here Here is the main reason for my Abcaba read by the way. not just this exact quote but a lot of abcaba posts have been broad statements that dont really push anything but look like they do. This and the one about turtwig are vague ways of putting people in a town spot without actually committing to doing anything. It feels more of an attempt to blend into to town here than to actually do anything productive it also feels like a tactic of townreading players as maf to get towncred incase they flip town. (Like abcaba as mafia obviously knows who town is so they are able to make this baseless town leans easily) Vote abcabaanyways i voted FtF because i just had off vibes from his entrance but its also prob bias from me bc he hasnt solved the game yet. I also feel like him and abcaa arent scum together from their kind of buddy entrances, I dont think its something two scum do together. But I could see FtF and Abcaba giving us one scum here. Also most importantly im listening to "Breathless On DVD" by Antarctigo Vespucci. Its an underrated indie song from an underrated indie band. Kind of angsty and a little annoying, but i enjoy it and thinks a banger. Alright so few questions 1. What makes my "broad", as you say, posts more scummier than someone like turt or Clouds? (besides newbie meta for turt) 2. If one of me and ftf flip town, would that affirm your read in that the other flips scum? Honestly for Clouds I think its just because I expect more from here, so even though Clouds really has not contributed too much yet, I guess I try and give him the benefit of the doubt for a day. Because his town play is exceptionally strong when he is town, but I will also admit he has not done anything of note for me to justify a town or scum read on him. Turt just does not have enough for me to read at all, and I have nothing to go off from the slot. I still see you/ FtF potentially giving us a scum, but it also just depends on FtF and his current "Solve"/ Poe. Ill talk about that in a second but its not rubbing me the best way, and ill reread it to see how I feel about it again. But if like you flipped town I wouldn't instant scumread FtF unless STP also flips town, because then it feels like FtF helping contribute to a TvTvT wagon (in the sense that he is trying to put a scum in between the three of us) Im currently listening to "House Fire" by someone still loves you boris yeltin. One of my fav band names, and a good kind of sad indie song. |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 8, 2024 15:46:31 GMT
This is not related to the game, but this is my 1000th post and thats exciting. I want to thank everyone for giving me such a fun forum experience, and I plan on making it to 2000 one day! I love this community, and I love all yall, and thank you guys for providing such a fun community.
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 8, 2024 16:02:54 GMT
gotta love these sc lines rn bro is making the exact points i wanna make To be clear from my last post, I do actually think flush could be right about scum in me/STP/Abcaba, im just saying that on the chance that there is not any then I see a much higher likelihood of FtF flipping scum who tried to use PoE to Maf advantage. This line from StP feels weird from me, Abcaba has made some really good points recently, and I do agree with their read on stP in the sense that aggression could just be a scum play. I think sometimes I get so caught up that I try and read too much into things like "This player is acting so scummy there is no way they flip scum" but they could also just be playing scummy because they are scum. Anyways this line from STP is off because it feels weirdly pockety of SC without committing to any hard reads. But also literally while making this post I read something that made me immedality rethink STP vs Abcaba being SvT. I also want to be clear that if one flips town, I dont want to immediately push the other. Abcaba is the less scummy of the two slots right now, their more recent posts have felt very productive and the slot has redeemed itself at least partially in my mind. The only bit of hesitance I have is a potential pocket from them. And if Abcaba were to flip town, there is always the possibility of STP just being really tunnel visioned onto one slot and refusing to change their reads. Im currently listening to does he love you by rilo kiley, absolute banger of a song. I highly recommend it to anyone that likes indie rock, the lead singer Jenny Lewis is iconic and was also in the postal service. The story is devastating and the song is just breathtakingly moving. |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 8, 2024 16:11:15 GMT
Literally look back 5 posts welp i disagree u on turts posts being nai but w/e Also while im here, STP if Abcaba flips town where do you go next/ what happens? Who becomes scummier/townier in that case, what do you do in this scenario knowing you spent D1 pushing a town slot and now your slot looks worse because of it (Im currently listening to Your Ex-Lover is dead, which is where my PFP actually comes from!!! Amazing song, probably my favorite song of the moment. Devestating and sad but really really good, I couldnt recommend this enough!) |
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 8, 2024 16:15:38 GMT
Lmao no shot ur saying my reasoning is just “vote abcaba” when ive given multiple reasons but anyways yeah so i have other reads to u know. I also think ptsd is townish but in general there isnt much for me to gather reads since all of prod/fame/clouds/frf can prob just be scum and i woulndy know rn. Tuet looks townie but i wanna see reads from them or smth. Am gonna hope the bold works out, read this earlier looked at it in probably a worse light initially, but that aside, STP this somewhat reads to me as like you putting off reads into the 4 of out slots which i dont super get [ig i understand for me and Clouds where we currently dont have a lot of content to make much out of rn] but i do think Fame at least and prob Ftf do have enough content to make something out of / at least try to put some alignment towards Ik youre afraid of being wrong but like being wrong is fine and reevaluating your decisions later is something u can do, just b/c you say someone is town/scum doesnt mean u have to stick w/ it. Like are the 4 of us capable scum players? Yes. But theres a guaranteed 2 town minimum in the 4 of us that are worth finding, and at least stating u dont like the vibes from someone or scrutinizing someones post is worthwhile Like ig its prob worth it to try to pose us questions or look over what we say twice before committing to saying something but i can assure you the 4 of us are not all partnered with each other in a 10p game. Part of it feels somewhat like ur throwing ur hands up in the air and hoping were all nked i do think its worth it to find the guaranteed 2 town in here though i mean if I were to give an order on towniest to least towniest rn itd be: You, Fame, Ftf, Clouds |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Feb 8, 2024 16:22:51 GMT
Good morning PS Mafia Proboards, I am currently listening to Walls by The Lumineers its a banger of a song and a cover of tom petty. This is not relevant to forum game, I just want to include the song im listening to each post now, so yall can clock my vibe when typing these. So far Toni.XY/NewPlayerCrespo has made some banger posts These two are bangers, they are short and quick to the point but effective in commentating on discussion and it brings up an interesting point against Abcaba who I think is a fine vote here but I want to see more from Abcaba of course. Vote FtF more posts incoming soon, i just wanted to get my TL on Crespo out there, let yall know im here, and also Fame and Clouds are always going to start off as town leans for more just because of them usually being the most productive early game. In support of the music sharing in the thread ^-^ I'm writing this listening to Jay Z - Family FeudThink I've fallen down this trap before of townreading Toni for making these snappy, observation style posts but it's actually just his Mafia play in general What has you voting FtF here? What do you think of Clouds' entrance? Or mine? Actually I do not think clouds has given enough to be townread here, his unpartnered reads dont feel extremly groundbreaking here to me, and Schia made a really good point a couple of games ago about throwing around unpartnered reads so early (given Schia was scum that game, but it was a good point). Anyways im mainly waiting to see how clouds responds to the thread now, because it felt like he was grasping at straws with FtF and Abcaba's interaction, it just feels like a case of overanalyzation going to far imo I dont have a lot of thoughts on your real entrance, it was just good commentary about players early game as that was the first real post you made. It felt NAI but also a good way to enter the forum and it def doesnt make me SR you here. As I said earlier, I have recognized now what everyone is saying about Toni and it makes sense to me now as I havent played forums with Toni in a while. FtF is a slot I keep going back and forth on, their entrance gave much to be desired and their "solve"/ scum and town pool doesn't feel too thoughtful. I think that is mainly because of a lack of explanation on his part which I know also stems from just being busy and not being able to fully lay out every reason, which I completely understand here. I think FtF is null for me here and depending on how his reads progress on the different pools he has made, that will change how I read FtF. Also thanks!!! I love sharing my music and it lets people know my headspace for each post (This post was brought to you by 4runner for Brenn! I dont really recommend it :sobs: its like a guilty pleasure song, but its just like kind of a basic indie pop song about being stuck in a small southern town) |
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 8, 2024 16:27:22 GMT
gotta love these sc lines rn bro is making the exact points i wanna make To be clear from my last post, I do actually think flush could be right about scum in me/STP/Abcaba, im just saying that on the chance that there is not any then I see a much higher likelihood of FtF flipping scum who tried to use PoE to Maf advantage. This line from StP feels weird from me, Abcaba has made some really good points recently, and I do agree with their read on stP in the sense that aggression could just be a scum play. I think sometimes I get so caught up that I try and read too much into things like "This player is acting so scummy there is no way they flip scum" but they could also just be playing scummy because they are scum. Anyways this line from STP is off because it feels weirdly pockety of SC without committing to any hard reads. But also literally while making this post I read something that made me immedality rethink STP vs Abcaba being SvT. I also want to be clear that if one flips town, I dont want to immediately push the other. Abcaba is the less scummy of the two slots right now, their more recent posts have felt very productive and the slot has redeemed itself at least partially in my mind. The only bit of hesitance I have is a potential pocket from them. And if Abcaba were to flip town, there is always the possibility of STP just being really tunnel visioned onto one slot and refusing to change their reads. Im currently listening to does he love you by rilo kiley, absolute banger of a song. I highly recommend it to anyone that likes indie rock, the lead singer Jenny Lewis is iconic and was also in the postal service. The story is devastating and the song is just breathtakingly moving. Ok i guess i should prob delv a little bit deeper into my sc read if ur thinking im pocketing them. So let me attempt to explain the line a bit, during that point of the game I belived that me and sc were trying to do the same thing regarding the abcaba slot, which was ask questions to figure out where there coming from with their reads since they were really vague(not something necessarily ai now that I think abt it but at the time it was to me) And then after abcaba answered sc followed up and asked another question that I thought would help me figure out abcaba slot more, which reminded me of the way that ppl like Clouds and Fame played when I thought they were townie and thats something I was trying to do too. |
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Post by slowthepoke on Feb 8, 2024 16:35:31 GMT
welp i disagree u on turts posts being nai but w/e Also while im here, STP if Abcaba flips town where do you go next/ what happens? Who becomes scummier/townier in that case, what do you do in this scenario knowing you spent D1 pushing a town slot and now your slot looks worse because of it (Im currently listening to Your Ex-Lover is dead, which is where my PFP actually comes from!!! Amazing song, probably my favorite song of the moment. Devestating and sad but really really good, I couldnt recommend this enough!) Id probaly have to look into clouds and ftf which would be annoying since I dont understand what ftf says and clouds hasnt said enough for me to think anything of them besides the fact that they could be pocketing me. If abcaba flips town id think sc would look scummier since there post on abcaba could be from them knowing that they are town. Id probaly think turts slot is townier since idt turt has scum interactions with abcaba. U would be slightly townier because of ur progression on abcaba slot. Id also probaly look at the other votes since I find it easier to develop reads from votes rather then lines, and for ur "your slot looks worse because of it" thingy, not sure how true that is since ive hard pushed t! fame like 2 times and nothings happened. |
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Post by Prodigu on Feb 8, 2024 17:26:16 GMT
Was gonna make a larger post but after looking it over it tldr’d to
Null most ppl rn / like a few posts from different ppl
Tl Fame atm
Votepool for myself rn: Crespo / Turt / Stp
Feel like this votepool would contain at most 1, wanna light a fire under toni / turt to get more out of them
Stps here atm from some general things of not wanting to read 4 of us / the “just shift to abc” first part was answered to a degree, do like some of his more recent posts (this page)
Feel like im not…. Overly committed to this votepool rn and think theres some leeway for other votes atm
vote crespo for now though
Wanna mainly see progressions from Toni / Turt slots atm
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Post by Prodigu on Feb 8, 2024 17:28:46 GMT
Am gonna hope the bold works out, read this earlier looked at it in probably a worse light initially, but that aside, STP this somewhat reads to me as like you putting off reads into the 4 of out slots which i dont super get [ig i understand for me and Clouds where we currently dont have a lot of content to make much out of rn] but i do think Fame at least and prob Ftf do have enough content to make something out of / at least try to put some alignment towards Ik youre afraid of being wrong but like being wrong is fine and reevaluating your decisions later is something u can do, just b/c you say someone is town/scum doesnt mean u have to stick w/ it. Like are the 4 of us capable scum players? Yes. But theres a guaranteed 2 town minimum in the 4 of us that are worth finding, and at least stating u dont like the vibes from someone or scrutinizing someones post is worthwhile Like ig its prob worth it to try to pose us questions or look over what we say twice before committing to saying something but i can assure you the 4 of us are not all partnered with each other in a 10p game. Part of it feels somewhat like ur throwing ur hands up in the air and hoping were all nked i do think its worth it to find the guaranteed 2 town in here though i mean if I were to give an order on towniest to least towniest rn itd be: You, Fame, Ftf, Clouds Ok this is something, what has you saying im more townie than Fame here? Also how come u have Clouds at the lowest rn? Am kind of at a mindset of Clouds’ post was decent at the time he made it with the limited info he had at the time |
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Post by Clouds on Feb 8, 2024 17:42:39 GMT
vote ForgotToFlushsome weirdness with ftf & sc that i'm not sure what to make of yet ftf's reaction to sc's intro felt overblown and he kind of put words into abc's mouth by saying they were mindmelding, when abc didn't even give a read on sc... he just rvs voted him at the same time sc was a little dodgy with all of that I know you know what I'm talking about in my last post so how do you feel about viewing FtF's entrance through that lens rather than it being scum indicative it captures my hesistancy in calling it a read better than i could explain in my own words, so yeah |
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Post by Clouds on Feb 8, 2024 17:47:57 GMT
whats exactly the point of these lines? i mean ig but even if it is just abt turts line still dont like the reason that they think its a good line or the read in general. This feels natural for STP, and I am not going to rule out STP vs Abcaba as potential SvT but if it is I am leaning towards Abcaba being scum here this line is... strange to me? it's almost like you're forcing a SvT dichotomy here when it can quite easily be TvT |
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