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Post by zarathustra on Apr 28, 2024 2:50:56 GMT
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Post by slowthepoke on Apr 28, 2024 2:51:05 GMT
but yeah its prob just easier if u iso turt, they havent played a scum game yet so u can see what i mean
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Post by zarathustra on Apr 28, 2024 2:51:40 GMT
i mean the thing is the way turt plays isn't exactly hard to fake
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Post by slowthepoke on Apr 28, 2024 3:02:48 GMT
the thing is also that, turts just not good enough to fake it, like theyre new enough to where idt u can really fake that
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 28, 2024 3:41:19 GMT
Gm. Went back after the flip to do some reeval, see if anything changed for me or if i was missing something Then I saw this stp your reads have been all over the place like actually can you make sense w your posts What does that mean, do u wanna a correlated list or smth &honestly, with today being basically lylo, i figure we owe it to ourselves to be thorough--so:  |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 28, 2024 3:41:30 GMT
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 28, 2024 3:41:50 GMT
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 28, 2024 3:42:05 GMT
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Post by slowthepoke on Apr 28, 2024 3:57:35 GMT
yeah this is annoying because, thres so much going on in those posts i genuinely have no idea how to respond, and I dont even think what theyre saying is false too, thats the bigger problem for me here, makes it harder for me to call that a post from scum but like, maybe this is like an effort to shift the vote off aligning or smth, idk the wagon makes it hard to figure out.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 28, 2024 4:16:48 GMT
--all of which is to say, I still very much think STP is a hit. I think at various points through the game, he's shown a little to no drive to solve, with most of his reads being ad hoc/retaliatory, and often going directly counter to his own stated perspective & flailing or backpedaling when pressured.
I feel very strongly that we should move forward with this today--but in the interest of taking an abundance of caution, consider my vote there in spirit.
As far as other candidates go here:
I think the next most likely hits are Lind/Myan and Aligning. The former has several instances in her ISO that read as high-partner equity to me (outlined above, but if you want specific demarcations I can grab them later), including some soft-pitched interactions in a crunch & moments of pressure that never seem to actually develop into serious pushes; the WIM dropoff also feels consistent with lindy's stamina in the several other wolf games I've seen from her, and while Myan's done some to recover the slot, it feels like a too-little-too-late situation. As far as the latter goes, I actually had the thought he might be BP here, which would account for some of the weird dip in play, but I think Gary's claim tracks here--aside form no CC, a lot of the stuff that read as treading water fits pretty well with expected play for PR trying to ride the line--meanwhile, Aligning's gameplay doesn't hold up to as much scrutiny. The longer stretchces where AStars seems to just kind of go unremarked also fit pretty well with an UTR wolf profile. As much as the two have independent wolf equity here, I think there's really a decent chance of the team being Just This.
Pass/Turt are kind of weirder slots--there's some village equity here, could easily see either or both flipping town, but i'm open to talkback here. Biggest things imo in favor of v!Pass here come from the way STP's treated him here--one of the slots that gets the most time thrown in POE or being voted, feels extremely unaligned; I also honestly just get a lot of the same energy from Pass that I got when we hydrad together, where there's this clear sense of drive between spurts of posts. Could maybe see a team with Lindy/AS (there's some generous TRs between there that you could make a case as being partnered, I think); whereas Turt is in a similar situation of being repeatedly POEd, but gets afterthought status a lot of the time--comes across as an edgecase in terms of partner equity, less like distancing and more like attempts at pushing LHF. The detachedness is pretty easily to fake and I'm not the biggest fan of leaving things up to pmeta, but atvl triage has me looking into the first three before either of these is up for consideration.
Game had a gross start but I really do think town can win this if we just work this through and nail down our sort here and now--feels extremely winnable
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Apr 28, 2024 4:20:52 GMT
the thing is also that, turts just not good enough to fake it, like theyre new enough to where idt u can really fake that not that new ;-; |
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Post by slowthepoke on Apr 28, 2024 4:23:09 GMT
yes that new i dont think ive seen a single good town game from u
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 28, 2024 4:23:35 GMT
yeah this is annoying because, thres so much going on in those posts i genuinely have no idea how to respond, and I dont even think what theyre saying is false too, thats the bigger problem for me here, makes it harder for me to call that a post from scum but like, maybe this is like an effort to shift the vote off aligning or smth, idk the wagon makes it hard to figure out. not really much to say to this except that if you're town, absolutely nothing is stopping you from explaining. as it stands, really hard to take this as anything other than putzing around from a wolf who's lived way longer than they should've. most recent post lays out where my head's at right now.
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Apr 28, 2024 4:24:27 GMT
yes that new i dont think ive seen a single good town game from u do u just mean in forums? |
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Apr 28, 2024 4:25:57 GMT
yeah this is annoying because, thres so much going on in those posts i genuinely have no idea how to respond, and I dont even think what theyre saying is false too, thats the bigger problem for me here, makes it harder for me to call that a post from scum but like, maybe this is like an effort to shift the vote off aligning or smth, idk the wagon makes it hard to figure out. not really much to say to this except that if you're town, absolutely nothing is stopping you from explaining. as it stands, really hard to take this as anything other than putzing around from a wolf who's lived way longer than they should've. most recent post lays out where my head's at right now.
tbh stp is less of a safe vote imo feel like as or ptsd r best |
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Apr 28, 2024 4:26:36 GMT
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Post by slowthepoke on Apr 28, 2024 4:26:39 GMT
yes that new i dont think ive seen a single good town game from u do u just mean in forums? no, in general anyways yeah schia i dont know, i feel like i genuinely just tried giving my thoughts and reevaling slots atp, its hard for me to explain something when i think its right |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Apr 28, 2024 4:26:50 GMT
yeah this is annoying because, thres so much going on in those posts i genuinely have no idea how to respond, and I dont even think what theyre saying is false too, thats the bigger problem for me here, makes it harder for me to call that a post from scum but like, maybe this is like an effort to shift the vote off aligning or smth, idk the wagon makes it hard to figure out.will also just come out and say, this feels outing. trying not to give in to the tunnel gods but... having a hard time w/ any other interpretation here |
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Apr 28, 2024 4:29:46 GMT
do u just mean in forums? no, in general anyways yeah schia i dont know, i feel like i genuinely just tried giving my thoughts and reevaling slots atp, its hard for me to explain something when i think its right tbh town is hard to get good town games out of. ive had at least one tho ur memory is just bad |
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Post by slowthepoke on Apr 28, 2024 4:30:27 GMT
No turt, 0
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Apr 28, 2024 4:31:11 GMT
nuh uh just u werent in them bc u were also town and i never got my words out
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Post by slowthepoke on Apr 28, 2024 4:33:58 GMT
nuh uh just u werent in them bc u were also town and i never got my words out Thats on u tho |
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Post by Turtwigswiththrohs on Apr 28, 2024 4:34:57 GMT
nuh uh just u werent in them bc u were also town and i never got my words out Thats on u tho smh stp get back on topic to the game at hand |
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Post by slowthepoke on Apr 28, 2024 4:35:53 GMT
smh stp get back on topic to the game at hand Ur one to talk, u havrnt done anything |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Apr 28, 2024 19:46:47 GMT
well.
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