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Post by NightEmerald on May 30, 2024 0:27:35 GMT
sylvie if stp was scum here, that means mayor is scum, since stp woulld have plurshifted otherwise. But why would STP let the mayor reveal themselves?
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Post by NightEmerald on May 30, 2024 0:28:43 GMT
pcb what do you think are the odds peng got rolecopped n1 WIFOM/10 oh come on im bored looking at all the times stp has talked, do you think scum would have spent points n1 to see if peng was a pr theyd need to watch out for
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Post by NightEmerald on May 30, 2024 0:29:39 GMT
sylvie if stp was scum here, that means mayor is scum, since stp woulld have plurshifted otherwise. But why would STP let the mayor reveal themselves? like im still confused about this fmpov i just think mayor being influential in that d1 is pretty fkn weird
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Post by PokeCartBeast on May 30, 2024 0:32:30 GMT
oh come on im bored looking at all the times stp has talked, do you think scum would have spent points n1 to see if peng was a pr theyd need to watch out for i mean it's possible but it's also equally as likely that scumteam just shanked pd
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Post by PokeCartBeast on May 30, 2024 0:34:52 GMT
sylvie if stp was scum here, that means mayor is scum, since stp woulld have plurshifted otherwise. But why would STP let the mayor reveal themselves? could just be that ck/stp/cuddz scumteam is wholly possible i've looped around and now feel like stp/cuddz see the writing on the wall and are trying to antispew ck/potential 4th scum if fourth scum could see duso/ice being s/s with ck/stp/cuddz scumteam tbh
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Post by Gary The Savage on May 30, 2024 0:58:21 GMT
Votecount Update 3.2 Hammer is 7.
If the day were to end right now, slowthepoke would be voted out Approximately 25 hours until Day End. Please let me know if there are any errors.
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Post by SylvieSlays on May 30, 2024 1:01:58 GMT
sylvie if stp was scum here, that means mayor is scum, since stp woulld have plurshifted otherwise. But why would STP let the mayor reveal themselves? like im still confused about this fmpov i just think mayor being influential in that d1 is pretty fkn weird Hm? Why does STP being scum mean that mayor is scum? Mayor doesn't know who the scum are, i'll remind ya
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Hadu✰dee
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Post by Hadu✰dee on May 30, 2024 1:02:54 GMT
okay i have not been here i'll touch up on some things i hadn't mentioned before our last dayend, as well as catch up with gamestate as i'm like eleven pages behind lol if anyone's around willing to give me context in terms of their votes/wagons, that'd be great in the time i'm reading
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Post by SylvieSlays on May 30, 2024 1:03:49 GMT
okay i have not been here i'll touch up on some things i hadn't mentioned before our last dayend, as well as catch up with gamestate as i'm like eleven pages behind lol if anyone's around willing to give me context in terms of their votes/wagons, that'd be great in the time i'm reading As tracker i clocked stp visiting peng who died
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Post by NightEmerald on May 30, 2024 1:05:13 GMT
like im still confused about this fmpov i just think mayor being influential in that d1 is pretty fkn weird Hm? Why does STP being scum mean that mayor is scum? Mayor doesn't know who the scum are, i'll remind ya because stp would shift plur off themselves onto the town otherwise
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Post by PokeCartBeast on May 30, 2024 1:06:12 GMT
Votecount Update 3.2 Hammer is 7.
If the day were to end right now, slowthepoke would be voted out Approximately 25 hours until Day End. Please let me know if there are any errors. having doublevoter on duso is interesting though so i'm going to eliminate cuddz/duso s/s actually so solve is just stp -> cuddz -> ck -> ice (assuming all red)
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Post by PokeCartBeast on May 30, 2024 1:06:33 GMT
like im still confused about this fmpov i just think mayor being influential in that d1 is pretty fkn weird Hm? Why does STP being scum mean that mayor is scum? Mayor doesn't know who the scum are, i'll remind ya reminder that cuddz is outed doublevoter
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Post by NightEmerald on May 30, 2024 1:07:59 GMT
Hm? Why does STP being scum mean that mayor is scum? Mayor doesn't know who the scum are, i'll remind ya reminder that cuddz is outed doublevoter wait when was this i am not braining recently
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Post by PokeCartBeast on May 30, 2024 1:11:05 GMT
reminder that cuddz is outed doublevoter wait when was this i am not braining recently CK voted before the plursec on tan so they are conf not doublevoter
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Post by PokeCartBeast on May 30, 2024 1:13:09 GMT
wait when was this i am not braining recently CK voted before the plursec on tan so they are conf not doublevoter (and also stp went "cuddz fakeclaimed and their real role is obvious")
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Post by NightEmerald on May 30, 2024 1:18:44 GMT
CK voted before the plursec on tan so they are conf not doublevoter (and also stp went "cuddz fakeclaimed and their real role is obvious") what "info" did you even get? secret info about doublevoter yeah in hindsight its obvious im just incredibly blind
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Post by PokeCartBeast on May 30, 2024 2:47:40 GMT
I logged on to salt about prod and nobody has posted anything You guys are boring
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Post by cuddleszz on May 30, 2024 5:47:51 GMT
im either waking up to a stupid af wagon on stp still or the town finally listens to me for once LOL goodnight
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Post by iavh on May 30, 2024 10:17:59 GMT
conclusion: cosplaying is hard I'm alive gimme a bit i will read up ty also i cant hammer
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Post by iavh on May 30, 2024 10:34:12 GMT
thinking about plopping my vote on here Vote: Ice_Knight
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Post by yoshman8 on May 30, 2024 10:39:10 GMT
2) passthesaltdude3) corruptednoob42 -> nightemerald4) slowthepoke6) creamykitty7) AligningStars9) Turtwigswiththrohs -> dusoebaa11) SylvieSlays12) Ice_Knight14) iavh (N)15) hadudee16) cuddleszz17) yoshman8 (N)
funny how half of my reads are reversed i'm treating sylvie as town here just because i don't think scum takes even night tracker and i'm much more believing in s!stp right now based on their reactions to sylvie's track t!CK probably means scum is within iavh/yosh and they're struggling to insert themselves into game right now Due to your scumreads on stp and cuddlezz, do you see them as partners? If so why, and if not why not
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Post by creamykitty on May 30, 2024 11:08:57 GMT
Votecount Update 3.2 Hammer is 7.
If the day were to end right now, slowthepoke would be voted out Approximately 25 hours until Day End. Please let me know if there are any errors. having doublevoter on duso is interesting though so i'm going to eliminate cuddz/duso s/s actually so solve is just stp -> cuddz -> ck -> ice (assuming all red) what makes you think I’m partnered with cuddz or ice??
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Post by creamykitty on May 30, 2024 11:10:20 GMT
Like I can understand the logic behind me bussing (even though it’s wrong) but me being paired with cuddz or ice doesn’t make any sense
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Post by NightEmerald on May 30, 2024 17:14:28 GMT
holy shit gamers the slowthepost is real (after procrastinating with youtube, oreos, and an ice cream sandwich) do think is a stupid reason from aligning to town stp there vote aligningstars wrong format iavh, plus its a good reason This refers to astars tling stp for voting the public vanilla. If I understand thge setup right, there's always someone who's public vanilla. If I understand his reason correctly, STP voted the pubnilla because he thought their flip would be indicative, since he believes mafia would not overdraw, and that of the 0 cost roles, public vanilla would be one that scum would choose to vote. AligningStars just called this gutsy in a 5 word post, as explanation for the tl iirc, and i guess i agree? Coming at this from a S!STP perspective, I'm inclined to believe that if he went for the more seasoned players (cudd, pengd, ptsd, sc, and pcb,astars to an extent) it'd put far more pressure on him, since they'd probably be more active (and thorough) in calling him out. ngl the rest of d1 wasnt as ai as it was stp working towards his solve, though sidenote about neighborize: stp and cudd obviously are going to come out of a potential neighborize being more confident in each other, personally I believe that solving stp doesnt necessarily solve cudd, but i'm a doubter in the idea that two people locked in a neighborchat can actually solve each other. I still think a iavh vote would be safer then making a "educated guess" my info gives me 1/2 odds in getting scum here, im trusting it over like a 1/15 kinda self evident for town, could be preemptively excusing a misvote as scum what "info" did you even get? secret info about doublevoter combined with what pcb said earlier i think its obvious what this means, question is whether it refers to scumchat or neighborchat i fell asleep, this is the next day I dont actuallly wanna give my reads sighhhhh Town: Peng, Ptsd, Cuddz, PCB TL: NE SL: CookieGod, TanPat(dont wanna vote incase t! doublevoter) IAVH, Aligning I honestly don't feel like explaning bc like I don't have the energy to. Soooo yeah have fun with this hadudee of these reads, i feel alstars is the odd one out, but stp hasn't said, like shit about them before they posted this so i genuinely dont know where his head's at Ok! I ate now and am not so tired, so ill gooo back to respond to people about "me not explaining my reads" (which I will say, get used to it, its normal for me to do so) I will say, most of my town reads came from d1, and that there hasnt really been anything to change them. So, starting off with my strongest town read, Cuddleszz! I like a majority of their lines d1, like their vote on me and then once they see that I was being sred for it, they changed their read and got off, which I think comes from a townie pov, and then I also agreed with their d2 statement of how like, we have the most info from the vade wagon but its like best not to vote it for now. Which at the time I agree with. I also like how they are trying to tell town to not lock in 3 scum with strong roles as it is also something that I would agree with, if I didnt have info that alludes to it not being the case... Ok next we have PCB! Now I like this slot mainly for very similar reasons to cuddz i FOSed vade first for making a nothing entrance and randvoting STP and pinged them to ask them to explain their vote both of the vade and stp wagons probably have scum motivation now imo though not a big fan of all the sheeping going around on them in general So I rlly like this line, 1. It's in defense of me and thats obviouslly a plus, but it also calls out what a lot of people we're doing at the time lmao, and it probaly did have scum motivation. Anyways I usually would think pcb was pocketing or could be, but they also responded to me in a negative light when I had a casual reaction to my vote. Not rlly much from them d2 but they do have a reason. Next is PTSD... alright so lets get the obvious shit out of the way, PTSD probaly has singly handly carried the discussion from d2 and then them also trying to get people to answer questions is things i'd usually expect from town ptsd atp, theyre also actually giving reads this time around which is +++. I don't think I need to comment on this much more pobv. And then we have lurker peng. The final of my townreads... or for this on like townlean. Anyways I actually don't remember what made me town read them that well, the slot mainly engaged with me d1 and I see it now as like, an opposite sort of perspective cuz like, d1 (and still now but less of a focus) I wanted to setup solve and peng provided reasonings why I shoudlnt (that I ofc didnt care about) but ig it was nice to hear, also like PCB nice blend of critizing and defending me which makes me not think its a scum pocket. D2 they just went to... normal lurking peng so nothing rlly ai there. Oh yeah theres NE, theyre posts have been solid but need to see more from them, bottom of the town rn. Ok now lets get to the scum leans/ reads. Lets start with the recently added Sylvie! Ok so d1, I didnt not actually heavily hate them since most of it was null, disliked the "then everyone knows what not to claim" thingy but thats it, then d2.. I got the same vibes mainly.... until their most recent post, honestly just feels like a sheep of what hadu said about me, and I already dislike them basing their read off me on solely that. Next we have cookie_god oh I mean ice_knight, now... I feel bad bc like the original read was solely based on their role, and it still sorta is.... but besides that, a lot of people engaged with my read on cookie_god and said that I shouldnt vote them based on them being pubnilla, which is... intresting, I still think we get info from this flipping and I don't their posts have done anything for me to see them in a townie light, but this is probably the person who I think would flip town the most out of my scumreads. I'm actually gonna retract my read on tanpat and put them into the null section, I think my read was based on a lot of people sring it at the time. Like.. I get the fact that yeah they did vote vade for an oppuristic reasoning, but like... I feel like a scum would just stay on the entire time and tan got off when they thought they did something that seemed townie which is like, not what i'm expecting from oppurtistic scum here. Iavh..... is a slot thats intresting here, I'm voting them based 1. On my take on iavh v peng, which psure ptsd mentioned and maybe someone else. And 2. Because tan has plur and I don't want them going over anymore. This is just normal iavh for the most part annoyingly enough but they did put in enough effort to sl me and sr aligning which is interesting. I don't think theyre particuarly scummy, but they are scum if people belive peng v iavh is svt. Psure the last slot I mentioned here was aligning, and I mean like, the early d1 wasnt bad, like they did the textbook vade scum thing but thats rlly it, they also asked questions psure but idt they responded to them. I feel like the majority of the slots that they pushed were lhf slots(sylvie, Ice_knight, vade, tan) which is like :/. But besides that I dislike their progression on me lmao like they were one of the people who went, s!double voter + s! me which like, obv I disagree with but is also like really oppurtistic. They backtrack a bit after I ask them like why I just don't vote vade or something there, which is townie and would probaly be enough to put them at null. But my biggest problem with them comes with their progression on sylvie, I personally belive these 2 are partners. Like aligning dislikes their intro which is like, fine, and then comes to voting their slot yesterday, but the big problem I have with it is... Guess what im here and ill just go by saying unvoteliking sylvs new posts and they are engaging more and giving genuine questions as solves. I don't really get how aligning stars comes to this at all, like this is really weird. I don't get what about that post gives them the vibes of "giving genuine questions as solves" like the question is if im scummy or not, which is whatever, but I don't get how u see it as "genuine", super weird thought process there. And then... Also STP's read on me doesn't make sense. Claimed me to be scummy due to my progression on that slot when what I was saying was actually reasonable. Like if it was s!double voter I would be voting them and called me out for scum and just really ignored me after I said my progression made sense. However, I did mention stp to be a tl of mine earlier by saying "to give thoughts and solve game d1 and try to understand what scum would do and follow up with really good vibes d1" but this has recently changed with them not clarifying any of their scum reads. They said if peng vs iavh is svt then iavh would most likely be scum without giving real reasoning and also just left me as sl for no real reasoning. Besides like the first part this is legit just parroting things that others said about me, while giving nothing on their own. And aligning acting like me not clariyfing my scum reads is new is funny, u've played with me enough times to now thats something I don't usually doo. Anyways one more thing, for anyone that assumes its s!doublevoter + s! me, I have to ask, why does double voter save me over... me shifting to vade or my partner shifting to cookie_god, sc was on that wagon and they already flipped town, so it would have been easy enough to do that, I could have also just voted vade as im psure I was active sometime around dl anyways? Want those who do belive that to share why its more likely that than either of those possibilties Might give unpartnerings later but this took longer than expected, making me play like hydra smh okay i should have scrolled more, but on the flip side, this is easily the most AI post STP's made, so let's get into dissecting it: -cudd as mentioned before, town!stp would get this from the neighborchat, scum!stp would get this either from t!cudd hard townreading him or s!cudd being, well, in the scumchat. -pcb t!stp probably makes this read, ill stop analyzing t!stp here because again, I think the only really weird read at a glance is alstars and reading ahead a bit, tanpat. s!stp unpartnered i feel like might make this play? idk if i were faking reads here id put ptsd second here but maybe that could get called out for being unoriginal or something s!stp partnered might make this play? Idk, I feel like it puts pcb at a lot of visibility as scum, but on the other hand, maybe it's an attempt to get a partneered pcb deeper into the towncore -ptsd every possible pairing of town and scum makes this read, this gives me basically nothing -peng kinda similar to above, kinda not? like I can see both aligns and partner/unpartner making a read like this, but thee specific wording feels towny i guess? but I also feel like peng did enough d2 for this to feel off to me -me theres nothing, or call it bias, but like, it's a single sentence -sylv at the point in the game when this was posted, I personally didnt make much of this read, and honestly I still feel like that holds. STP at this point was acting favorably to hadu, because hadu sr'd them based on not making reads that go in depth and show their through process. meanwhile this is the sylvie quote since.. nobody is going to speak.. I'm starting to dislike STP's slot for real this time. As hadude said, he hasn't really gone into details on reads, and that on its own is meh. BUT WHEN HE ACTIVELY READS IT AND GOES "meh ima ignore it" it turns into a different level of meeeeeh is that scummy or not? I also don't think he's actively reading, considering he nitpicked one sentence that i said to use against me yet when i asked him to.. actually read the statement he's trying to highlight.. he goes silent. Whether town or scum, just not a fan of it. I don't think we vote him today? but still smth to look out for it sure is a sylvie quote. like i struggle to read sylvie because they never feel helpful to town to me (im not apologizing for this one) ive covered it before, but when stp says 'give an actual reason' to sylvie saying "i'll read back and see what I can find" (and then proceeds to not read back and instead just argue with stp) i kinda want to side with stp here. -ice/cookie the main line i want to look into is " I don't their posts have done anything for me to see them in a townie light, but this is probably the person who I think would flip town the most out of my scumreads." first half I agree with for reasons you've seen yesterday. but phrasing it as 'flip town most out of my scumreads' gives me weird vibes, in a way that I can't explain. -tanpat town could be genuine, and I kinda like the re-evaling reads in the same post since i do that shit all the time, and while it's easy to fake, I feel like it's one of the small touches scum doesn't go through all the effort to include. if this is scum stp it's textbook distancing, but im tired of thinking about it (spent literally 30 minutes) -iavh (ive like half given up on coherency) i feel nothing from this read, I feel like for someone stp was voting it got oddly little detail -aligning idk i just like alignings vibes and reactions, but honestly looking at the quotes stp used, I can see where t!stp would sr them. however, I think STP's better than this, it feels like STP's only focusing on the cons as opposed to the pros, but idk im the mf who's spent way too much fucking time on this post. The neighborize targets t!stp wouold 100% hit cuddz with a neighborize, theyre like twins i swear to god. I feel like t!stp hitting peeng with a neighborize is kinda likely, kinda not? I suppose his list of towns are getting low, and asking cudd for targets i'd like for you to explain why you neighbored PD specifically i genuinely doubt t!you would use your shot there, much less so on a slot you were assured of the alignment of instead of a slot that actually gives you information I asked cuddz who I should neighborize, they said either peng or ptsd, I thought ptsd was going to die because they were massively tred like sc, so I decided to neighborize peng instead, I did tell cuddz this btw doesn't feel totally implausible. im so fucking tired final thoughts mechwise stp looks scum, and also I feel like stp hasnt been making any thread progress in the way im accustomed to them doing, idk if it's me but generally vibe wise the big progress makers are ptsd, alstars, and pcb. but like i really like stp's posts, and I REALLY don't like duso's, im not 100% sure whether sylv is scum or confused townie if this is town!stp, but it feels really odd that duso of all people is pushing stp when they hadnt even read the thread enough to know why peng was tred at the time. but brain spent im gonna go play limbus company or some shit see ya in 2 hours
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Post by NightEmerald on May 30, 2024 17:18:03 GMT
um uh vote slowthepoke just because i think im 6 layers deep in paranoia and my gut feelings tend to be stupid and bad.
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