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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 21:47:13 GMT
I thought about this as well recently, ppl are saying its towny and that was my initial instinct. But I don't think s!stp can continue the tunnel on me otherwise it just looks way too forced, so I feel like he could pivot regardless of alignment. Fame's responses have been fine, I ISOed him and nothing stands out too much, need more evidence against him before I feel great voting him. Myanmario: somebody who i still flip flop on and can see flipping either way as I see good arguments from both sides pop up every hour Definitely a world where Lechen flips inactive townie and we're back to square one but he hasn't given us much to work with, i'd say lechen > stp > fame > myanmario still my preferen. not a fan of this tbh, mainly with the myan line, feels v passive on a slot who hasnt really been passive all game, like whats ur read on them now if u still apparently flipflop on them. Bad: Page 9 (iirc), several reads/pairings that felt forced (fame made good point about towncoring vade early) Good: response to pressure, not self-pressing, natural thread interactions live & sticking with their opinion even when it doesnt benefit them a small townlean
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 21:47:29 GMT
I’m deep in thought like Socrates rn. I probs will vote last minute LOL
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 17, 2024 21:47:32 GMT
Lao tn it’s game or man. And both are not here?
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 21:48:16 GMT
does anyone think fame vs myanmario is town v town or y'all think there's always a scum there
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 17, 2024 21:49:10 GMT
Lao tn it’s game or man. And both are not here? Oops auto correct was nasty there. Myan or fame. And lechen is the afk slot voted. Can anyone note if man or fame are appearing online
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 17, 2024 21:49:20 GMT
No? I already have, it's in my most recent posts & it's recent. All I find is 'myan is stilted' and 'we should leave fame alone for now'I disagree that myan is stilted, and I'd like to address fame grumble grumble recalibrating for a second, will try and unpack this all over the next few posts
The conflict I'm having comes down to this I think--I like a lot of rea's early presence (felt myself nodding with some of his initial TRs, has an openbook sort of attitude that I associate with village, the usual candor-is-towny stuff). I think we also had a p similar sense of the threadstate in the first slew of phases, like that take early on abt the likelihood of wolves having posted felt like another show of decent townheadspace. Where he starts to lose me is some of the doubling down on the Myan TR (the initial meta pull is fine, some of the subsequent returns to it feel like a forgone conclusion which rubs me the wrong way). I like early Slowthe too, and would like to think their interactions are V/V--STP's pushing and prodding around the initial read feel less like gotcha-attempts and more like a villager genuinely taken aback by what they perceive as a weak progression, I think someone earlier brought up this idea of him feeling less like a wolf trying to keep someone eligible for mislunch and more like a player just kind of seeing their thoughts through and I kind of get that (pg6 showcases this vibe pretty well I think, like the attitude is very much "Make this make sense" as opposed to any sort of bad faith handling). Can also fully see both slots getting fatigued with terrain in a 24hr format where it's occupied most of their threadtime, so it's like. I would *like* it to be a V/V situation. Where that gets sticky for me is some of the aforementioned stuff where Myan reenters (which is for me where they start actually being *wolfy* as opposed to just slanking), like it's stilted and awkward in a way that I think skews more toward wolf than villager, and the places where they bail on the thread or just straight up don't address certain questions (while also being visibly conscious of their posts) don't strike me as someone liveposting w/o hesitation/wavering--and I think that applies to their return to the thread today in the backhalf of the phase, too. Last night they had the strange pop-in to Fame, with the mixing up btwn me/rea and a comment abt unpairing that felt kind of out of nowhere [x]--like, I brought up some of my discomfort with Fame's handling of the slot there, but to stress the room for error there, I do think the points being made by Fame on pg11 are like, solid points--it's just that the delivery (both in manner and in moment) comes across as someone with a foot in the door on the slot, like they wanted both to address the scumminess of the pop-in while also defending the slot to NE. Myan's scattered exit & Fame's "hey I'm expecting follow-up here" felt p classically W/W, too, like partner A flails, partner B responds in a way that gives partner A an opportunity to recover but also positions partner B to bus if needed. Like, assuming good faith, I think there's definitely a world where this can just be Fame exercising a good deal of caution w/ the above slots--but I have a harder time extending that same grace to Myan, esp. coming off pg16 where they seem to just sort of pull conclusions out of nowhere in one breath (the readlist, the TR on micro, the fixation on Sylv and the scarce progression around all of these), and defer elaboration in the other (with Sylvie again but also later in the page, with Winsy). Like, most generous read is that it's a villager just playing coy for no reason--which feels like a huge stretch. Like I think there's decent cases to be made for v!Fame (most village equity here imo) and v!rea (less equity but still decently defensible, esp. with the amount of slanking we have here), but v!Myan is a harder sell. vote @myanmario if I'm doing my due diligence, then I'll throw in too for good measure- I don't think any of this is disqualifying for Sylv, who's been nonexistent, and along w/ Lechen I think there's something to be said for them having threadflaked without *also* just straight up not posting (see: Dactyl). If Myan does flip green, I think it leaves us in a position to go winnowing (and fwiw I have a much harder time seeing the stuff above as being W/V from either Fame or rea toward Myan)--as it stands though I think I still land here.
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 21:50:41 GMT
does anyone think fame vs myanmario is town v town or y'all think there's always a scum there i can see myan v fame being tvt, I don't scumread fame at all, and they can flip town.
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Post by Fame on Jun 17, 2024 21:50:44 GMT
Lao tn it’s game or man. And both are not here? Oops auto correct was nasty there. Myan or fame. And lechen is the afk slot voted. Can anyone note if man or fame are appearing online i'm here, btw
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 17, 2024 21:51:58 GMT
It’s so ez to just say fame and mean is gonna be tvt but that’s just the vibes I get from this eod. They are both not here so I’d like to think they are not being protected by anyone
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 17, 2024 21:52:16 GMT
Oops auto correct was nasty there. Myan or fame. And lechen is the afk slot voted. Can anyone note if man or fame are appearing online i'm here, btw
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 21:52:26 GMT
vote @winsytinsy
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Post by Fame on Jun 17, 2024 21:53:12 GMT
does anyone think fame vs myanmario is town v town or y'all think there's always a scum there i can see myan v fame being tvt, I don't scumread fame at all, and they can flip town. is there anythin about my posts that you like or are you just feeling neutral about my slot
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 21:53:23 GMT
kinda want to vote stp here if lechen isnt getting any votes
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 21:53:38 GMT
Meant to come back earlier but got busy with squad busters, will be around until dl on mobile. I’m not the biggest fan of voting fame atm and I think they’ll be useful/easier to read past d1, as I said earlier I’d much rather prefer a winsy vote here. Noms remain STP, fame, X
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 21:53:40 GMT
i can see myan v fame being tvt, I don't scumread fame at all, and they can flip town. is there anythin about my posts that you like or are you just feeling neutral about my slot i just feel nuetral about ur slot
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 17, 2024 21:53:57 GMT
Did you attack winsy like you promised you would? Can u hl it quick
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 21:54:29 GMT
Think I was too paranoid regarding schia, gonna backtrack and cross out my reaction to it
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 17, 2024 21:54:40 GMT
kinda want to vote stp here if lechen isnt getting any votes CHiNESE FIRE DRILL
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 21:54:41 GMT
Did you attack winsy like you promised you would? Can u hl it quick I didn’t I’m sobbing crying
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 21:55:13 GMT
ppl are like really opposed to a fame vote here so im gonna go back to lechen
vote @lechen
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 17, 2024 21:55:22 GMT
That's not the only post but it's one of the more recent & it's for sure the among the more detailed ones
Like the things that are actually sketch *about* Fame are predicated on Myan flipping red; if Myan comes out green, then the scumcase on Fame goes from "wolf going one-foot-in/one-foot-out on their flailing partner" to what, w!Fame with TMI on v!Myan setting up for a mislunch while also giving Myan opportunities to recover? That's shit wolfplay.
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 17, 2024 21:55:28 GMT
this eod feels gross
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 21:56:02 GMT
If I had to comment on my own wagon I think micro is the towniest on it? Their logic for joining was fine IMO so don’t rlly mind that
Not the biggest fan of schia saying how fame never goes over before me here, considering they haven’t made much parallels b/t the two if that makes sense
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Post by passthesaltdude on Jun 17, 2024 21:56:09 GMT
How I get Myself Killed- Indigo De Souza 1:22 "Something must be up, I have never felt so dumb. And I have never gone so numb. And I have never been so late before. This is Probably how I get myself killed"
vote @myanmario
I haven't had the time to process the thread like i've wanted to. But ftr I havent seen anything from Myan that has done anything to change the claims made against them, and I still havent see much real progress from their slot esp late today where it feels like they are trying to soley defend their slot/ challenge the vote on them rather than also finding serious nominations. (I know early they mentioned nominatting slots that they felt needed more pressure but not necessarily ones thet scumread, and even potentially nominating a townread if I read it correctly) and I am a little offput by how noncoherent / not really urgent that strategy seems
Also I strongly agree that Fame is never the vote here and them even being a potential CW when there was never huge scumpoints levied against them aside from some slight concerns, kind of irks me the wrong way. Especially from TB's post which feels kind of thrown together last second just to justify a CW vote that is viable enough to save Myan rather than finding a CW vote that actually gives scum.
Sorry that isnt more coherently worded, I can elaborate more tomorrow when im not crunched for time.
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 21:56:24 GMT
stp didnt you say you wanted to save myanmario? whats your read on fame again
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