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Post by Fame on Jun 17, 2024 23:23:46 GMT
No? I already have, it's in my most recent posts & it's recent. All I find is 'myan is stilted' and 'we should leave fame alone for now' I disagree that myan is stilted, and I'd like to address fame grumble grumble there's more to it than this and i think if you're revising your tr on schia it's worth understanding what schia did towards EOD since there's probably more content you can make reads on than you're acknowledging schia putting realiti & myself on the back burner comes after a string of posts where they're laying out a hypothetical realiti/myan/fame mafia team (or at the very least a mafia team that includes 2/3) & towards EOD they explain that the reads on realiti & i are subject to change based on myan's flip -> [x] & [x]
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Post by Fame on Jun 17, 2024 23:31:52 GMT
i will Imagine Schia Is Evil for a minute schia knows myan is town, schia knows i am town, and schia knows the alignment of realiti they spend a good portion of the phase visiting myan's slot, voting it, reconsidering it, and trying to connect myan to other players [namely myself and realiti] then towards EOD they essentially tear down the majority of narrative building they did in the primary stages of the phase with their post about this team not making sense if myan flips green. see: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/129657/thread & their snap vote on dactyl at day start which discards the realiti partner potential for now not sure how much that tracks for s!schia, seems like a long mile to go for a narrative that crumbles pretty fast with a myan flip that looked pretty predictable |
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Post by Fame on Jun 17, 2024 23:49:56 GMT
the world where schia is scum in that eod puts him in a position where
he either commits to that team/solve for eod & the days following (with the knowledge that myan is likely going over and flipping green) or.... awkwardly backtracks pre/post flip with that knowledge in mind & gets saltnommed by myan in the process
thoughts?
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Post by Fame on Jun 18, 2024 0:09:44 GMT
recalibrating for a second, will try and unpack this all over the next few posts
The conflict I'm having comes down to this I think--I like a lot of rea's early presence (felt myself nodding with some of his initial TRs, has an openbook sort of attitude that I associate with village, the usual candor-is-towny stuff). I think we also had a p similar sense of the threadstate in the first slew of phases, like that take early on abt the likelihood of wolves having posted felt like another show of decent townheadspace. Where he starts to lose me is some of the doubling down on the Myan TR (the initial meta pull is fine, some of the subsequent returns to it feel like a forgone conclusion which rubs me the wrong way). I like early Slowthe too, and would like to think their interactions are V/V--STP's pushing and prodding around the initial read feel less like gotcha-attempts and more like a villager genuinely taken aback by what they perceive as a weak progression, I think someone earlier brought up this idea of him feeling less like a wolf trying to keep someone eligible for mislunch and more like a player just kind of seeing their thoughts through and I kind of get that (pg6 showcases this vibe pretty well I think, like the attitude is very much "Make this make sense" as opposed to any sort of bad faith handling). Can also fully see both slots getting fatigued with terrain in a 24hr format where it's occupied most of their threadtime, so it's like. I would *like* it to be a V/V situation. Where that gets sticky for me is some of the aforementioned stuff where Myan reenters (which is for me where they start actually being *wolfy* as opposed to just slanking), like it's stilted and awkward in a way that I think skews more toward wolf than villager, and the places where they bail on the thread or just straight up don't address certain questions (while also being visibly conscious of their posts) don't strike me as someone liveposting w/o hesitation/wavering--and I think that applies to their return to the thread today in the backhalf of the phase, too. Last night they had the strange pop-in to Fame, with the mixing up btwn me/rea and a comment abt unpairing that felt kind of out of nowhere [x]--like, I brought up some of my discomfort with Fame's handling of the slot there, but to stress the room for error there, I do think the points being made by Fame on pg11 are like, solid points--it's just that the delivery (both in manner and in moment) comes across as someone with a foot in the door on the slot, like they wanted both to address the scumminess of the pop-in while also defending the slot to NE. Myan's scattered exit & Fame's "hey I'm expecting follow-up here" felt p classically W/W, too, like partner A flails, partner B responds in a way that gives partner A an opportunity to recover but also positions partner B to bus if needed. Like, assuming good faith, I think there's definitely a world where this can just be Fame exercising a good deal of caution w/ the above slots--but I have a harder time extending that same grace to Myan, esp. coming off pg16 where they seem to just sort of pull conclusions out of nowhere in one breath (the readlist, the TR on micro, the fixation on Sylv and the scarce progression around all of these), and defer elaboration in the other (with Sylvie again but also later in the page, with Winsy). Like, most generous read is that it's a villager just playing coy for no reason--which feels like a huge stretch. Like I think there's decent cases to be made for v!Fame (most village equity here imo) and v!rea (less equity but still decently defensible, esp. with the amount of slanking we have here), but v!Myan is a harder sell. vote @myanmarioif I'm doing my due diligence, then I'll throw in too for good measure- I don't think any of this is disqualifying for Sylv, who's been nonexistent, and along w/ Lechen I think there's something to be said for them having threadflaked without *also* just straight up not posting (see: Dactyl). If Myan does flip green, I think it leaves us in a position to go winnowing (and fwiw I have a much harder time seeing the stuff above as being W/V from either Fame or rea toward Myan)--as it stands though I think I still land here.@ bold what i'm having trouble with is that prefacing myan's town flip with the idea that it's unlikely for myself & realiti to have treated myan's slot the way we did if we were wolves is counterproductive for a lot of the narrative schia would've been building throughout the day about myself/realiti/myan which is a good thing but resorting to treading through afk slots if plan a doesn't work is a bit...like, meh, for me because you're not really committing to the idea that realiti and i aren't wolves, you're just deferring the idea of us being wolves pouncing on myan's slot in favor of taking shots in the dark for a while after instead |
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Post by Fame on Jun 18, 2024 0:18:30 GMT
kind of a oog note/comment here but i get disappointed by how frequently we have to come to this point in games on here where the options are "go shadowboxing with afk slots" or "chop contributing players" tbh -- shouldn't really be something players are expected to decide between imo Lechen if you're reading the thread, or at the very least caught up to the point you claimed you were, can you give any of your thoughts? if anyone dogs on you for not knowing the meaning of terminology on here it'll rightfully be seen as unsportsmanlike, at least from me & probably a few others that i know wouldn't necessarily give it the time of day either |
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Post by Fame on Jun 18, 2024 0:23:03 GMT
is there a reason you're not nominating literally any of the other people you had listed as scumreads like winsy & ne were both listed as scumreads for you as of an hour ago A lot of fame's posts are like this; argumentative or argumentative questioning. Everything they say seems to me to be putting down other people's reads. Always destructive, not constructive. which part of this post is putting down myan's reads, btw? i'm like categorically holding myan accountable for a set of noms that don't match up with their most recent readlist atp in thread can't help but feel this sentiment is actually felt towards my post towards you and it's being projected onto my posts without recourse to the intent behind what i'm saying, bc how do you feasibly conclude this is a destructive post? |
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Post by Fame on Jun 18, 2024 0:27:37 GMT
The conflict I'm having comes down to this I think--I like a lot of rea's early presence (felt myself nodding with some of his initial TRs, has an openbook sort of attitude that I associate with village, the usual candor-is-towny stuff). I think we also had a p similar sense of the threadstate in the first slew of phases, like that take early on abt the likelihood of wolves having posted felt like another show of decent townheadspace. Where he starts to lose me is some of the doubling down on the Myan TR (the initial meta pull is fine, some of the subsequent returns to it feel like a forgone conclusion which rubs me the wrong way). I like early Slowthe too, and would like to think their interactions are V/V--STP's pushing and prodding around the initial read feel less like gotcha-attempts and more like a villager genuinely taken aback by what they perceive as a weak progression, I think someone earlier brought up this idea of him feeling less like a wolf trying to keep someone eligible for mislunch and more like a player just kind of seeing their thoughts through and I kind of get that (pg6 showcases this vibe pretty well I think, like the attitude is very much "Make this make sense" as opposed to any sort of bad faith handling). Can also fully see both slots getting fatigued with terrain in a 24hr format where it's occupied most of their threadtime, so it's like. I would *like* it to be a V/V situation. Where that gets sticky for me is some of the aforementioned stuff where Myan reenters (which is for me where they start actually being *wolfy* as opposed to just slanking), like it's stilted and awkward in a way that I think skews more toward wolf than villager, and the places where they bail on the thread or just straight up don't address certain questions (while also being visibly conscious of their posts) don't strike me as someone liveposting w/o hesitation/wavering--and I think that applies to their return to the thread today in the backhalf of the phase, too. Last night they had the strange pop-in to Fame, with the mixing up btwn me/rea and a comment abt unpairing that felt kind of out of nowhere [x]--like, I brought up some of my discomfort with Fame's handling of the slot there, but to stress the room for error there, I do think the points being made by Fame on pg11 are like, solid points--it's just that the delivery (both in manner and in moment) comes across as someone with a foot in the door on the slot, like they wanted both to address the scumminess of the pop-in while also defending the slot to NE. Myan's scattered exit & Fame's "hey I'm expecting follow-up here" felt p classically W/W, too, like partner A flails, partner B responds in a way that gives partner A an opportunity to recover but also positions partner B to bus if needed. Like, assuming good faith, I think there's definitely a world where this can just be Fame exercising a good deal of caution w/ the above slots--but I have a harder time extending that same grace to Myan, esp. coming off pg16 where they seem to just sort of pull conclusions out of nowhere in one breath (the readlist, the TR on micro, the fixation on Sylv and the scarce progression around all of these), and defer elaboration in the other (with Sylvie again but also later in the page, with Winsy). Like, most generous read is that it's a villager just playing coy for no reason--which feels like a huge stretch. Like I think there's decent cases to be made for v!Fame (most village equity here imo) and v!rea (less equity but still decently defensible, esp. with the amount of slanking we have here), but v!Myan is a harder sell. vote @myanmarioif I'm doing my due diligence, then I'll throw in too for good measure- I don't think any of this is disqualifying for Sylv, who's been nonexistent, and along w/ Lechen I think there's something to be said for them having threadflaked without *also* just straight up not posting (see: Dactyl). If Myan does flip green, I think it leaves us in a position to go winnowing (and fwiw I have a much harder time seeing the stuff above as being W/V from either Fame or rea toward Myan)--as it stands though I think I still land here.@ bold what i'm having trouble with is that prefacing myan's town flip with the idea that it's unlikely for myself & realiti to have treated myan's slot the way we did if we were wolves is counterproductive for a lot of the narrative schia would've been building throughout the day about myself/realiti/myan which is a good thing but resorting to treading through afk slots if plan a doesn't work is a bit...like, meh, for me because you're not really committing to the idea that realiti and i aren't wolves, you're just deferring the idea of us being wolves pouncing on myan's slot in favor of taking shots in the dark for a while after instead i'd appreciate if people gave their thoughts on this & my previous posts about schia, btw, because i am relatively unsure of what to think about his eod play atm i'm leaning towards it being unprobable & clunky feeling from scum pov but i'd be interested in hearing other thoughts |
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Post by Lechen on Jun 18, 2024 1:42:36 GMT
kind of a oog note/comment here but i get disappointed by how frequently we have to come to this point in games on here where the options are "go shadowboxing with afk slots" or "chop contributing players" tbh -- shouldn't really be something players are expected to decide between imo Lechen if you're reading the thread, or at the very least caught up to the point you claimed you were, can you give any of your thoughts? if anyone dogs on you for not knowing the meaning of terminology on here it'll rightfully be seen as unsportsmanlike, at least from me & probably a few others that i know wouldn't necessarily give it the time of day either Sorry, was asleep. For future reference I'm +8 and I typically sleep in on Tuesdays and weekends. I shall catch up to the thread now |
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Post by Lechen on Jun 18, 2024 1:44:44 GMT
I am also not logged in on phone (I should be) so I couldn't respond to messages when I was commuting an hour ago
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 18, 2024 2:12:01 GMT
Gm frens im catching up now b4 bed watch this drive
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 18, 2024 2:14:26 GMT
would love for someone to nom stp btw you could have been the chosen one  |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 18, 2024 2:35:11 GMT
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 18, 2024 2:35:26 GMT
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Post by Fame on Jun 18, 2024 2:36:03 GMT
BRATSUMMER
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 18, 2024 2:41:18 GMT
wanna chat while i'm around but am also p disappointed in the lack of engagement toward what i think are some fair discussion points from fame, torn between wanting to talk/sort & not wanting to give low-production slots stuff to lean on
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 18, 2024 2:41:44 GMT
refusing to click that fiona apple link btw. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 18, 2024 2:44:58 GMT
between you and pass, there's a world where i'm being pocketed but-- |
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Post by Fame on Jun 18, 2024 2:47:25 GMT
between you and pass, there's a world where i'm being pocketed but-- it's a master scheme between the two of us ....and it's contagious....it's contagious.... |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 18, 2024 2:56:21 GMT
Trying to read schias iso is cooking my brain. I would also like to imagine a scum schia but they use too many big words :(l. Im trying to imagine scum schia but my brain wont let me v well im close to sleep n 16, 2024 21:05:20 GMT -4 Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ said: Pass town In my mind's eye I've already shifted my vote Jun 17, 2024 12:38:48 GMT -4 Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ said: I don't think the read from aspen on rea's a bad shout tbh @ne My only negative theorys rn is these feel like 2 buddy attempts but like probably not. obv ptsd is a whore for being townread by schia and schia must know this, I just cant find a reason to tr them so early and defending gatsby seems unjustifiable with how bad they were playing and it could be them seeing aspen as a pawn to progress realiti harder. I hate stp slot rn and It really feels like schia was the one who defended them hardest I dont see a reason to vote them over a 0 post slot. Schias progressions in general seem to be either extremely detailed to a ungodly lvl or with no explanation. i need to go to bed but this is my thoughts Fame. It seems like they had a deep progression about 2/3 scum in rea fame and i think thats not something scum would do tho? |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 18, 2024 2:57:21 GMT
i thought i remembered how to quote multiple things I need to sleeep |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 18, 2024 2:59:34 GMT
kind of a oog note/comment here but i get disappointed by how frequently we have to come to this point in games on here where the options are "go shadowboxing with afk slots" or "chop contributing players" tbh -- shouldn't really be something players are expected to decide between imo Lechen if you're reading the thread, or at the very least caught up to the point you claimed you were, can you give any of your thoughts? if anyone dogs on you for not knowing the meaning of terminology on here it'll rightfully be seen as unsportsmanlike, at least from me & probably a few others that i know wouldn't necessarily give it the time of day either I will start hunting for thread campers soon |
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Post by vaderaven on Jun 18, 2024 3:03:00 GMT
Just woke up and read till page 23, will go read the rest, feel free to shoot questions. Wall post incoming!
I really would like to see Fame/NE/STP flip today as I think these three slots have equity for a scumslot (from what I've read so far, hwich is till page 23)
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 18, 2024 3:03:04 GMT
like vaderaven is camping thread but no one lets me push cuz of that. |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 18, 2024 3:03:22 GMT
o they are not threadcamping yay
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 18, 2024 3:03:57 GMT
Just woke up and read till page 23, will go read the rest, feel free to shoot questions. Wall post incoming! I really would like to see Fame/NE/STP flip today as I think these three slots have equity for a scumslot (from what I've read so far, hwich is till page 23) good luck with that the noms are shit |
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