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Post by pqwerty on Aug 15, 2024 18:30:06 GMT
oh im just too lazy to unvote. unvotethe wagon is very small now and i like animal midwife's tone atm (like they seemed unphased by my joke of calling them a wolf and have also been joking around) so the only person left would be stp. stp's vote seemed random but i didnt think it was malicious cuz it didnt really do anything. so it looks like the pcb wagon could be town. unfortunately it's tough for me to form opinions on everyone when there isnt a lot to go off of. Im not sure if you ended up clarifying on this, but when you said the pcb wagon could be town, does that mean you think pcb is town, or that the people that were on the wagon were town? Not completely sure what you meant here oh i mean the people who voted pcb seemed towny, regardless of the rv |
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Post by Animal Midwife on Aug 15, 2024 18:30:10 GMT
Oh, do I have to unvote first? |
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Post by Izaya on Aug 15, 2024 18:50:31 GMT
rip
my vote isnt registered huh
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Post by pqwerty on Aug 15, 2024 19:11:50 GMT
I was thinking hypo is something we do tomorrow.
but also just for general strategy, I was considering just having everyone (except the vig) target the person below them in the PL. And then the next night you target the person 2 below you in PL. and then the next night u target 3 below u (just to prevent the cop from visiting the same person every night). Oh and it loops back up so the person at the bottom of the list would target the person at the top.
Pros:
- no thinking required and all actions will be accounted for
- we'll have a better idea of when the PGO shot is used bc an extra person will die, but it will only be 1 person unless the vig goes rogue since only 1 person is below them.
- we'll also have a better idea of when the SK shot is used bc an extra person will die
(so like, ideally with this strategy we would know if someone used their extra KP since there would be an extra death, and then if vig shot they can just claim the shot)
- unless the rb is listed right above a cop or doc in pl, this should minimize bad interactions between town PRs
- I think it gives us more mech to work with (for example, the PGO becomes potentially useless on certain nights bc if u have a mafia and a PGO below it on the PL, then no town will be targeting the PGO that night bc the person who is supposed to target the PGO is maf (so this leads to WIFOM of when the PGO goes off). And also it sucks to be PGO in this scenario since if there's 2 deaths then people just have to look at the people below them in PL for potential PGOs)
Cons:
- this informs the mafia who a potential doc is if their target doesn't die
- everyone gets a free cover story so unless mech can counter it, it becomes really easy to lie
- the PRs can't target who they actually want to target
- the mafia have info on the night actions and can plan accordingly.
Essentially this plan screws the doctors and takes out most tourism mech,
BUT it really screws over the PGO in terms of how much the killing potential is limited + the people above it look sus on nights it holsters + how outted it potentially becomes when 2 deaths occur
Idk it seems like a fun idea to make a circle of tourism bc idk how else touring is supposed to be a good role
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Post by pqwerty on Aug 15, 2024 19:13:53 GMT
So I'll be targeting Aligningstars tonight ig.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 15, 2024 19:19:21 GMT
errr
my shift to raven doesn't seem to have counted
do i do vaderaven or turtwigswithravens? do we need to unvote in a separate post? lemme just try this
unvote
and then
vote @turtwigswithravens
and just in case
vote @vaderaven
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Post by pqwerty on Aug 15, 2024 19:21:11 GMT
oh wait i just realized why the strat won't work.
it needs everyone on board with it and everyone active enough to see it and we still have 0 posters
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Post by slowthepoke on Aug 15, 2024 19:27:31 GMT
Bro ne hasnt read me yet ik crying
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Post by Animal Midwife on Aug 15, 2024 19:35:08 GMT
unvote
vote @aligningStars
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Post by creamykitty on Aug 15, 2024 19:41:12 GMT
HC Tourist Unjester, pls don’t target anyone so I can trigger my wincon
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Post by hallow on Aug 15, 2024 19:43:31 GMT
I was thinking hypo is something we do tomorrow. but also just for general strategy, I was considering just having everyone (except the vig) target the person below them in the PL. And then the next night you target the person 2 below you in PL. and then the next night u target 3 below u (just to prevent the cop from visiting the same person every night). Oh and it loops back up so the person at the bottom of the list would target the person at the top. Pros: - no thinking required and all actions will be accounted for - we'll have a better idea of when the PGO shot is used bc an extra person will die, but it will only be 1 person unless the vig goes rogue since only 1 person is below them. - we'll also have a better idea of when the SK shot is used bc an extra person will die (so like, ideally with this strategy we would know if someone used their extra KP since there would be an extra death, and then if vig shot they can just claim the shot) - unless the rb is listed right above a cop or doc in pl, this should minimize bad interactions between town PRs - I think it gives us more mech to work with (for example, the PGO becomes potentially useless on certain nights bc if u have a mafia and a PGO below it on the PL, then no town will be targeting the PGO that night bc the person who is supposed to target the PGO is maf (so this leads to WIFOM of when the PGO goes off). And also it sucks to be PGO in this scenario since if there's 2 deaths then people just have to look at the people below them in PL for potential PGOs) Cons: - this informs the mafia who a potential doc is if their target doesn't die - everyone gets a free cover story so unless mech can counter it, it becomes really easy to lie - the PRs can't target who they actually want to target - the mafia have info on the night actions and can plan accordingly. Essentially this plan screws the doctors and takes out most tourism mech, BUT it really screws over the PGO in terms of how much the killing potential is limited + the people above it look sus on nights it holsters + how outted it potentially becomes when 2 deaths occur Idk it seems like a fun idea to make a circle of tourism bc idk how else touring is supposed to be a good role Isnt the SK able to kill every night what do you mean extra KP / shot? Idt we should be messing over doctors / roleblocker tbh Also is the PGO spontaneous or is it optional? Like if Tourist A visits the PGO passively will they automatically die |
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Post by Animal Midwife on Aug 15, 2024 19:44:39 GMT
I was thinking hypo is something we do tomorrow. but also just for general strategy, I was considering just having everyone (except the vig) target the person below them in the PL. And then the next night you target the person 2 below you in PL. and then the next night u target 3 below u (just to prevent the cop from visiting the same person every night). Oh and it loops back up so the person at the bottom of the list would target the person at the top. Pros: - no thinking required and all actions will be accounted for - we'll have a better idea of when the PGO shot is used bc an extra person will die, but it will only be 1 person unless the vig goes rogue since only 1 person is below them. - we'll also have a better idea of when the SK shot is used bc an extra person will die (so like, ideally with this strategy we would know if someone used their extra KP since there would be an extra death, and then if vig shot they can just claim the shot) - unless the rb is listed right above a cop or doc in pl, this should minimize bad interactions between town PRs - I think it gives us more mech to work with (for example, the PGO becomes potentially useless on certain nights bc if u have a mafia and a PGO below it on the PL, then no town will be targeting the PGO that night bc the person who is supposed to target the PGO is maf (so this leads to WIFOM of when the PGO goes off). And also it sucks to be PGO in this scenario since if there's 2 deaths then people just have to look at the people below them in PL for potential PGOs) Cons: - this informs the mafia who a potential doc is if their target doesn't die - everyone gets a free cover story so unless mech can counter it, it becomes really easy to lie - the PRs can't target who they actually want to target - the mafia have info on the night actions and can plan accordingly. Essentially this plan screws the doctors and takes out most tourism mech, BUT it really screws over the PGO in terms of how much the killing potential is limited + the people above it look sus on nights it holsters + how outted it potentially becomes when 2 deaths occur Idk it seems like a fun idea to make a circle of tourism bc idk how else touring is supposed to be a good role Isnt the SK able to kill every night what do you mean extra KP / shot? Idt we should be messing over doctors / roleblocker tbh Also is the PGO spontaneous or is it optional? Like if Tourist A visits the PGO passively will they automatically die PGOs are spontaneous by definition. |
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Post by hallow on Aug 15, 2024 19:48:13 GMT
Isnt the SK able to kill every night what do you mean extra KP / shot? Idt we should be messing over doctors / roleblocker tbh Also is the PGO spontaneous or is it optional? Like if Tourist A visits the PGO passively will they automatically die PGOs are spontaneous by definition. Hmm would be hard to determine if someone actually visited the pgo or not then if theres 2 kills and a doc save or some other combination that happens only good way to determine it is if theres 3 kills in one night (or more) then |
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Post by slowthepoke on Aug 15, 2024 20:29:59 GMT
vote @fort
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Post by AligningStars on Aug 15, 2024 20:35:48 GMT
gm chat
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Post by AligningStars on Aug 15, 2024 20:36:04 GMT
unvotevote @aligningStarsstill failed ur vote bruh |
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Post by AligningStars on Aug 15, 2024 20:38:00 GMT
Yeah ig its just that then, I dont really understand how u get to that. Fort Colorcastle are u thoughts on that post similar to cks since u agree with them, and if so why? my main thought when aligning shifted off you was that it looked like what I would expect in the universe of: stp is scum and fort randvoted them aligning adds a vote to scumbuddy stp for some easy cred, expecting the rvs to go nowhere fort moves off aligning follows off, happy for stp to not be the vote Obviously this isn't the only possible universe, but imo if one of you is scum the other one is likely to also be scum Or I just didnt understand stp, my intentions to vote them were completly thrown in the bin because i didnt understand his sarcasm? |
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Post by AligningStars on Aug 15, 2024 20:39:57 GMT
I was mildly interested in Aligning voting stp but that didn't last I see. this brings up a thought for me, what exactly made aligning willing to shift off STP? He’s starting to feel the same kind of way as fort imo Just my whole reasoning to vote stp was thrown into the bin, basically at that point I was voting stp because of their shitposts and i also i had a reason to vote kliff. |
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Post by AligningStars on Aug 15, 2024 20:44:23 GMT
is "fos material" referring to fossing me for the line or fossing people jumping on the "pcb town" train interesting to see why you aren't considering ck scum rn? (i assume i'm interpreting that correctly lol) Any ingenuine town reads on you from other players could just be scum trying to TMIing having some motive at work. So yea fossing people jumping on the pcb town. If something didnt make sense to you then its seems like it would be worth investigation creamkitty has been contributing, helpful and progressive throughout this whole day 1 which is pretty ProTown. No reason to overthink things, I think they stood out a bit too much for me, which gave me the random thought that Creamkitty could be a confident, excited scum player. Creamkitty is just fine for me. Reading through Kliff's iso, it seems like they are just sheeping. They started off with a PCB read then said PCB's slot seemed like a lot of yap and had mixed feelings which makes me wonder how they got pcb town in the first place. I can somewhat understand their vote on me as I was their least liked slot but kliff i'd like to know what u didnt like. Well you first caught my eye during like your first wave of post. When I was catching up in the game and I just felt a hint of scum presence at that time. So After going through all the other players and seeing how I am feeling with them I think I feel the most confrontable going with my gut. You also been a little passive up until your vote gain some traction? which could be a red flag but its always too early to tell. And up until this point I also don't really any townieness from you to change my opinion. PCBJust like when I was catching up when I made the pcb post I thought I felt they had a town presence and just went with my gut and said what I said, after furthering analyzing I was not confrontable enough hold on to that read so I threw it out. Im still mixed on them but I think there post here is a decent development for them. Wow, no offence but if your being pressured u would want to answer questions? The reasoning on me doesnt make sense to me, wdym by u felt scum presence, are u going of ur gut that im scum. and i havent said anything townie at all. For ur PCB reasoning wdym by town presence, u liked their activity or them posting frequently? |
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Post by AligningStars on Aug 15, 2024 20:44:51 GMT
So I'll be targeting Aligningstars tonight ig. thx for the doc |
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Post by AligningStars on Aug 15, 2024 20:46:56 GMT
I mean fair but I feel like they were trying to pressure me to explain the pcb read instead of doing like, general pressure Aligning had a post earlier about you feeling scummy then kinda just plopped that vote on you without seeming to directly interrogate, so it felt more to me like a genuine sr than pressure vote This is true. |
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Post by pqwerty on Aug 15, 2024 20:47:26 GMT
oh. I thought the PGO they could pick when it triggered
well that means n1 it's possible that 3 ppl die and then we just look at the people 1 below each of them cuz one of them has to be a PGO.
And so we'd only have to do this strat N1 and we just random vist + hypo.
Also that means if u survive N1 u should be targeting the same person each night as a tourist cuz that means they're either "not PGO" or "PGO wasted their shout and u got docced"
Idk OR we could have all the tourists visit one person the entire game and if we all get PGO'd that sucks
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Post by AligningStars on Aug 15, 2024 20:50:14 GMT
vote @kliffI dont really have a reason to be on stp for now, they were just memeing, ive posted what i thought of kliff and im having a little trouble following how they are forming their reads. Does you voting Kliff here, mean that you think theyre mafia or are you trying to place your attention towards them with this? And now that Kliffs explained things more has your thoughts on them shifted at all, or what do you think of what they said For a starter i shouldve clarified, my vote on kliff was because I didn't like that slot at the time and I thought they were mafia while also trying to put attention towards the slot. They way they explained things was kind of hard for me to track. he says looking at the game he felt a scum presence on me but never mentioned why. So i might stick on him today. |
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Post by AligningStars on Aug 15, 2024 20:51:34 GMT
oh. I thought the PGO they could pick when it triggered well that means n1 it's possible that 3 ppl die and then we just look at the people 1 below each of them cuz one of them has to be a PGO. And so we'd only have to do this strat N1 and we just random vist + hypo. Also that means if u survive N1 u should be targeting the same person each night as a tourist cuz that means they're either "not PGO" or "PGO wasted their shout and u got docced" Idk OR we could have all the tourists visit one person the entire game and if we all get PGO'd that sucks its os pgo, the person can only use pgo for 1 night |
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Post by AligningStars on Aug 15, 2024 20:52:42 GMT
PGOs are spontaneous by definition. Hmm would be hard to determine if someone actually visited the pgo or not then if theres 2 kills and a doc save or some other combination that happens only good way to determine it is if theres 3 kills in one night (or more) then OS means one shot, they can only activate it once per game |
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