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Post by Spieky on Dec 16, 2014 0:29:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 0:45:05 GMT
Also lynch Alpha to prove the Citrus Doctrine is true!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 0:45:17 GMT
Haters!
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Post by PieLovesEveryone on Dec 16, 2014 1:05:33 GMT
It's a terrible idea and I'm never naming it because it doesn't deserve one.
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Post by Spieky on Dec 16, 2014 1:11:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 1:13:19 GMT
If you Citrus Doctrine Deniers would read Marvel Mafia, you'd see why it's the only way to save the proletariat! Death to Alpha, the infidel!
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Post by PieLovesEveryone on Dec 16, 2014 1:34:18 GMT
>read Marvel Mafia
I won that.
How about the Pie Doctrine, where we don't lynch stupidly and only lynch when we have a reason. I know, such a new idea >.>
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Dec 16, 2014 1:52:41 GMT
In marvel Mafia, there was a legit and serious reason why Spieky was scummy: He didn't even think that Overworld was a party. I completely agree that the Citrus Doctrine is idiocy. 85% of the time people randlynch on d1, it's a town dude.
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Post by rssp1 on Dec 16, 2014 2:19:35 GMT
So if I don't die in the night soon, i'm playing badly. However, at the same time, if I do die in the night soon, i'm playing badly.
My role is fun.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Dec 16, 2014 3:22:59 GMT
Rssp1 claims jester,
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Dec 16, 2014 3:23:22 GMT
Unless it's a BBB gambit
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 3:25:14 GMT
CONFO JESTER
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 3:25:39 GMT
A 3B Gambit would be more subtle.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 3:27:14 GMT
He's a jester probs, but I'm not sure he was trying a BBB Gambit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 3:38:34 GMT
In marvel Mafia, there was a legit and serious reason why Spieky was scummy: He didn't even think that Overworld was a party. I completely agree that the Citrus Doctrine is idiocy. 85% of the time people randlynch on d1, it's a town dude. You've maintained this position from the beginning; But there is a better way. I like this because day 1 is always a topic not much people bring up. One thing could be even if you do start lynching and gather reactions or scum hunt day 1, you could be possibly seen by the rest of the town as scum for wanting a lynch day 1. Also, when thinking about whether you should or shouldn't lynch, take into account the amount of players and role list (if there is one). Sometimes it's better to look at the statistics and just decide whether lynching should even be considered from there. Day 1 is an important day that's usually just skipped over because it can go 1 of 3 ways: 1. Scum is lynched. Town has a gigantic head-start and can look over who lynched/didn't lynch the mafia that day and can look back for previous reactions, plus cop can inspect the person (or people) who didn't lynch the scum and see if there are any guilty parties from there, assuming mafia didn't make the better play and lynch his partner (or if it's a role like ww or so). 2. Town is lynched. Giant set-back for the town in terms of people, and will reach mylo/lylo a lot faster just because of one mislynch. Also risks lynching a power role and if they have to claim to save themselves, risks revealing a role like doc. But, cop has a greater % of inspecting scum due to less players. 3. No one is lynched. The game proceeds with no advantages for either side at this point (usually). Even if you decide to /me nl, I prefer to keep Day 1 going on for a decent amount of time. Why? Because we as humans tend to make a ton of errors. Those errors can be players that slip up and reveal a little too much info. That can help town greatly, or maybe even cripple them (for instance, people who ask who the cop is are, believe it or not, doc a decent percentage of the time). Info gathering even when it's a no-lynch is crucial, especially during the early stages of the game. NLing is a really poor move, unless it is optimal in a setup to do so (Eg. EM's mason setup, or mylo). The only reason I nl is because I'm horribly lazy to scumhunt. Lynching is far better because it lowers the suspect list and actually gives you a chance at hitting scum. Like Nling, gives cop a free inspect, but ML essentially does the same thing, so there really isn't a good reason to nl. Even if there's cop+doc and you have a ml, might as well use it rather than wasting an nl. The odds of lynching doc (Which will claim) is much lower than the odds for doc being shot at the night, anyway. Spieky has expressed his distaste for third parties (or should I say PATTIES ahahah) to me personally, so I think it's safe to say this is a 9-3 set up with really weird town roles, a town-sided jester (maybe, unless we overread rssp1's claim), and possibly OP mafia roles like priority boosters or lynch vote changers. In a set up like this, it's the perfect setting to test the Citrus Doctrine, because there is likely a vigilante, or something like unto it. If it fails, I'll shut up, okay? And besides, it's Spieky's theme, he's done some weird stuff that will foil it anyway if we go too far, get too hasty, forget the necessary intensive scumhunting required on our parts. What say ye? Give my baby a chance?
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Post by rssp1 on Dec 16, 2014 3:40:00 GMT
I have no idea what a BBB Gambit is, and i'm too lazy to search it up. I'm also not a jester.
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Post by Pobaeto on Dec 16, 2014 3:41:51 GMT
I claim two shot vanillizer cop doc PL mafia jester
lynch rssp1
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 3:47:23 GMT
rssp1, this is a BBB Gambit. Do you want to be lynched? Be honest, if you're a jester/joker we can just lynch you now so you won't muddy up the town later. It'll satisfy the demands of the Citrus Doctrine, which makes me happy, lynches you, which makes you happy, and gets rid of some scumhunting work, which makes Fort happy. But obv this is not true if you aren't. But if you are, great.
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Post by rssp1 on Dec 16, 2014 5:22:18 GMT
I do not want to be lynched, and I am not a jester/joker. Promise.
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Post by rssp1 on Dec 16, 2014 5:24:08 GMT
I also do not believe I asked town to lynch me at any point, just said that i'll likely die.
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Post by rssp1 on Dec 16, 2014 5:25:36 GMT
Jeez, you guys really overanalyzed what I said.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Dec 16, 2014 6:28:07 GMT
Jeez, you guys really overanalyzed what I said. Wow... You just called Citrus plural. Gggggggg As I just claimed to Rssp1, my char's initials are M.M. (Hint for u thick people this is a soft claim)
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Dec 16, 2014 6:31:01 GMT
And if he's doing an unintentional BBB gambit, just as BBB did it unintentionally, he's doing it very well. Well rssp, of course you wouldn't ask to be lynched in a BBB gambit, that'd just give you away lol. But I doubt it. More likely, he's just complaining about his role.
We need more people to be active imo.
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Post by rssp1 on Dec 16, 2014 7:16:22 GMT
Yes, i'm complaining about my role. I don't want to be lynched. I had no idea what a BBB Gambit was before this, why would I attempt to use that strategy if I didn't even know it existed?
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Post by rssp1 on Dec 16, 2014 7:16:54 GMT
I also just figured out Fort's role, I think i'm a cool kid now.
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