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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Jul 22, 2017 10:48:48 GMT
Nobody gave an indication they wanted PL to claim, so this really comes across as you pretending to contribute, when it isn't really helpful
lynch champ since I don't think there is a better lynch rn
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 22, 2017 10:49:12 GMT
I mean under normal circumstances the PL won't claim anyways.
They'd just BS something and soft like 'User got hooked up' or smth.
Also can we have more discussion? Many people are doing jack shit to support the game, come in and provide thoughts on wagons or whatever, introduce like your own wagon and thoughts and whatever, just do ANYTHING to push the game forward. It won't work when there are only 4 active people every single damn day in a game of 11, the scum will just kill all the active people and the game will degrade to shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 11:39:17 GMT
Vote Count 3.1:
Player list (8): Animallover77, Champ∞1604, Fenrir, Hawkie, phoenix, VigilanteVigoroth, Bomb Moss and ZestOfLife.
Lynches: Champ∞1604 (2*, Phoenix, VigilanteVigoroth, L-3), ZestOfLife (1, Fenrir, L-4), Phoenix (1, Bomb Moss, L-4)
Hammer is currently at 5.
Not Voting: Animallover77, Champ∞1604, Hawkie and ZestOfLife.
If it were deadline right now, Champ∞1604 would be lynched.
Deadline is the 23rd of July, Sunday, 2pm EST, which is in ~30 hours.
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 22, 2017 12:47:03 GMT
Nobody gave an indication they wanted PL to claim, so this really comes across as you pretending to contribute, when it isn't really helpful lynch champ since I don't think there is a better lynch rn i never gave an indication wth?  ? you just make random interpretations of my text wth? ?? |
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 22, 2017 12:48:41 GMT
i just feel like lynching vigvig for that, like wth why are you literally taking the 180 meaning of what I said
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 22, 2017 14:15:41 GMT
Unvote ZestOfLife
On mobile.
If Phoenix doesn't follow through with being active my lynch moves to him but assuming he does:
Vote Champ1604
What Vigvig brings up is true and I think Champ's intentionally trying to misinterpret what VigVig said to discredit the argument. Champ's also being quite passive this game, linking to lynch all liars and saying things like "I want to lynch this person" without actually voting.
When I'm no longer on mobile I will go into more detail and hopefully be able to do a full reread and make a read list. Reads from others would be appreciated.
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 22, 2017 14:16:13 GMT
Full readlists, I should say.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Jul 22, 2017 15:16:02 GMT
Nobody gave an indication they wanted PL to claim, so this really comes across as you pretending to contribute, when it isn't really helpful lynch champ since I don't think there is a better lynch rn i never gave an indication wth? ? you just make random interpretations of my text wth? ?? Nobody gave any indication that they thought it was a good idea, and looking at it PL wasnt going to claim, but you butted in with some advice to not claim if you are PL, which they werent going to do, as an attempt to appear to be helping |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 22, 2017 16:16:39 GMT
Cool, so first: more detail with Champ because I'm sure that with things the way they are he'll show up with some kind of, "I don't understand the case against me." Nobody gave an indication they wanted PL to claim, so this really comes across as you pretending to contribute, when it isn't really helpful lynch champ since I don't think there is a better lynch rn i never gave an indication wth? ? you just make random interpretations of my text wth? ?? It's pretty clear that Vigvig wasn't implying that you gave an indication. This is in no way a random interpretation: you were responding to a concern that didn't exist (the PL was very clearly not going to claim) as opposed to acknowledging anything actually going on in thread or bringing up a valid point. It's effectively filler. i just feel like lynching vigvig for that, like wth why are you literally taking the 180 meaning of what I said Why are you so passive about using your lynch? It's coming across as you throwing things out there to see what people will sheep and this post in particular is really weak reasoning. Incoming: Reads, assuming I have time for all of them. |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 22, 2017 16:53:28 GMT
So what sucks is that barely anyone has content that can be used to form reads, but here's what I've got. Fenrir-Guys, I think he's a Werewolf. Animallover77-Guys, I think he's a Cult Role Cop. ZestOfLife-I look forward to seeing more from him. Neutral. Hawkie-Neutral, leaning town. I liked their entrance as I said earlier, although after Day 1 they've gone dead mostly. Champ1604-I've discussed this. VigilanteVigoroth-Leaning town. Stronger town lean than Hawkie actually due to their consistency in activity. I'm still not sure what to make if his Role Cop cc, but I don't see why scum would take that risk and the reasoning he gives makes sense somewhat. Bomb Moss-After d1 mostly has some back and forth with Champ, which isn't bad in itself (it's helpful tbh) but I'd like to see your thoughts on some others. Also did a call for activity without presenting something new to discuss, not unlike what cseel did d1 but this is mostly offset by his other content. Leaning town. Phoenix-Who? Overall order: Ani>Vigvig>Xnad>Hawkie>Zest>Phoenix>Champ >>>>>>Fenrir |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 22, 2017 16:59:53 GMT
Fair enough, Ani. I'm not sure what to make of Vigvig's claim, but ultimately I don't think scum would draw that level of attention to themselves take that risk for someone not in their own faction so early in the game. I'm fine with Ani withholding the inspect until later. I guess he could be scum who hoped to draw the protect away, but mafia clearly didn't go for one of the cop claims to begin with. It's effectively a downplayed version of what Java was doing, Champ. I didn't quite get the point of mentioning me there. Moving on, Behavior Barring you still haven't told us as to why you seriously tried to save toni before toni even claimed doc? Also, But why did I claim cop? I claimed cop because I thought Toni was doc, which he wasnt kek How does that make sense? I realise that your plan was probably to claim cop for the mafia shot, but you do realise that claiming cop on the same day as the doc claim makes no absolute sense? wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lynch_All_LiarsChamp today is actually echoing Champ d2 with the "I don't understand your argument" bit and pushing someone (both times Vigvig) very weakly with weak reasoning and indicating wanting to lynch Vigvig without doing so himself. I also notice, looking through your ISO, that I neglected to respond to something you brought up about your defending Toni. Allow me do do so-oh, wait: And before people go "But they obv weren't partners!": white-knighting is white knighting, be it for "I was right, sheep me!" or "Would I really defend my partner that much?" |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 22, 2017 17:27:31 GMT
You know there's this thing about the call for activity.
I don't need to provide NEW content to get people to respond when there's a huge fucking pile of OLD shit that people refuse to actually clear out. I even suggested providing thoughts and w/e on the reads and shit to tell them what to respond to since clearly people aint doing that in their own.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 22, 2017 17:32:44 GMT
Like, people's votes, people's reads, poeple's reason, between all that people still needing to be pointed where to look is still rather BS to me.
My other reads are pretty straightforward tbh, my way of play uses the Occam's Razor, "the situation with the least unknowns is the most reliable". My reads are mostly understandable on sight: Fenrir Town, VigVig Town, Pheonix Scum, Champ Scum, Hawkie Town, Animal Confirmed Role Cop.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 22, 2017 17:41:26 GMT
So like phoenix hasn't really kept I his word, I'd like to hold him at that. Regardless, Unvote Pheonix; Vote Champ1604I believe this is L-1. Please do not hammer this before announcing your intent to do so. Champ reads scum to me for quite similar reasons to most of you, so I'm just hopping on the BW here. Mostly, the accusation at VigVig stating their '180 interpretation' really pinged my radar hard when the post in question wasn't really phrased in a way that was easily interpreted. If anything, it feels like a scum setting up to me. I'm like posting this at midnight so I may be slightly incoherent so forgive me pls. |
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Post by Hawkie on Jul 23, 2017 17:56:49 GMT
Nobody gave an indication they wanted PL to claim, so this really comes across as you pretending to contribute, when it isn't really helpful lynch champ since I don't think there is a better lynch rn i never gave an indication wth? ? you just make random interpretations of my text wth? ?? Ok so i just figured out how to quote posts on my tablet the normal way would always add new text to the quote making it look like i was faking what people said otherwise i lost interest in this game quite a bit i apologise. Champs reactions to VigVig's analysis of him is really bad. VigVig called him out for what was filler and Champ attacks the truth in it. "You just make random interpretations of my text wth???" That's pretty much what mafia is about and I think VigVig's thought process is pretty clear here. Correct me if I'm wrong but Champ1604 goes on to suggest lynching VigVig which i think makes the whole situation omgus. Champ is trying to paint the picture that VigVig's read is like "wtf? " when that's really not the case and his posts around that time seem like he's faking emotions. I've only read p14&p15 i apologise but I'll catch up during the night phase |
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Post by phoenix on Jul 23, 2017 19:11:39 GMT
i can't be meaningfully active today if you hammer >_>
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Post by phoenix on Jul 23, 2017 19:13:43 GMT
that's not to say i would've ended up doing so
nonetheless it's true that i can't both be active AND hammer
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Post by lighthaze1135 on Jul 23, 2017 19:17:52 GMT
Its night 3, champ was lynched
Champ's role was Mafia
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Post by lighthaze1135 on Jul 23, 2017 19:23:25 GMT
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Post by lighthaze1135 on Jul 23, 2017 19:24:38 GMT
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Post by lighthaze1135 on Jul 23, 2017 19:25:18 GMT
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Post by lighthaze1135 on Jul 25, 2017 21:01:30 GMT
waited long enough, no deaths, day 4 start
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Post by lighthaze1135 on Jul 25, 2017 21:04:45 GMT
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 25, 2017 21:05:25 GMT
Vote Phoenix. Way to follow up with being active.
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Post by Umbrella on Jul 25, 2017 21:09:54 GMT
I got pheonix as not mafia lol
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