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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 23, 2017 22:20:37 GMT
LYNCH ODM
send off this old dying man and also VigVig's post count rivals yours totally, counting him, everyone else's post counts is higher than yours when combined. Only scum lie, and therefore you are scum
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 23, 2017 22:55:18 GMT
Ok so quick thoughts about this mode [3 mafia, 2 ww, 1 cop, 5 VT's 1 lyncher <-- for reference to me]: I've never played it before, but it seems like a couple things stand out to me. 1. There's a cop, yet the mafia don't get a kill unless the werewolves all die. Therefore, it seems to me that the Cop could claim? I know if the werewolves die then that is probably the stupidest strategy ever, but I'd assume the werewolves first want to kill the mafia, and keep the Cop alive? It would seem counter-intuitive if the Werewolves killed the Cop, who is confirmed town but would probably help them in the long run (by semi-clearing/finding mafia). Of course, I haven't played this, so I have no clue. I'll leave it to the people who have played this (probably no one but hey). 2. The Lyncher is always on a VT, and therefore if we get rid of the Lyncher, then someone is confirmed town. This idea is obvious but important for the future. [What the fuck I hit reply and can't get rid of that stupid box] First off: Tfw Gatsby on forums. I'm tempted to policy RAD for that. Second: Tfw snake person is Hawkie, I'm tempted to policy him for that  Third: I thought about making one of my "type before I know my role" posts about this and decided it was a bad idea, specifically because of the chance of the werewolves dying. Yes they want to kill mafia, but the plan necessitates almost that we keep the werewolves alive, which I'd rather not do. I say the Cop claims if they have a guilty and the werewolves are alive still, but it's ultimately up to the cop what they want to do. Your second point is dependent on how blatant the Lyncher makes their tunnel, so we'll see. Worth remembering that they can also switch to town. Mafiascum has had precisely one game of this setup that I might read over in my spare time. As Mafia apparently got RKOed out of nowhere, I've no clue how helpful it will actually be. |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 23, 2017 22:57:20 GMT
u.u I have no clue who anyone is because of the Mystery Makeover thing (had to ask Snaq about Rad because I thought the Gatsby troll had moved to forums), so if people could mention who they are that'd be cool.
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Post by Umbrella on Jul 23, 2017 23:06:40 GMT
Lynch Fenrir Your my lynch target xoxo
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 23, 2017 23:49:01 GMT
Ok so quick thoughts about this mode [3 mafia, 2 ww, 1 cop, 5 VT's 1 lyncher <-- for reference to me]: I've never played it before, but it seems like a couple things stand out to me. 1. There's a cop, yet the mafia don't get a kill unless the werewolves all die. Therefore, it seems to me that the Cop could claim? I know if the werewolves die then that is probably the stupidest strategy ever, but I'd assume the werewolves first want to kill the mafia, and keep the Cop alive? It would seem counter-intuitive if the Werewolves killed the Cop, who is confirmed town but would probably help them in the long run (by semi-clearing/finding mafia). Of course, I haven't played this, so I have no clue. I'll leave it to the people who have played this (probably no one but hey). 2. The Lyncher is always on a VT, and therefore if we get rid of the Lyncher, then someone is confirmed town. This idea is obvious but important for the future. [What the fuck I hit reply and can't get rid of that stupid box] First off: Tfw Gatsby on forums. I'm tempted to policy RAD for that. Second: Tfw snake person is Hawkie, I'm tempted to policy him for that Third: I thought about making one of my "type before I know my role" posts about this and decided it was a bad idea, specifically because of the chance of the werewolves dying. Yes they want to kill mafia, but the plan necessitates almost that we keep the werewolves alive, which I'd rather not do. I say the Cop claims if they have a guilty and the werewolves are alive still, but it's ultimately up to the cop what they want to do. Your second point is dependent on how blatant the Lyncher makes their tunnel, so we'll see. Worth remembering that they can also switch to town. Mafiascum has had precisely one game of this setup that I might read over in my spare time. As Mafia apparently got RKOed out of nowhere, I've no clue how helpful it will actually be. What the fuck did Snaq do to Radicate jesus christ... For now I think there are 3 people who did the makeover thing (very cancer): I'm Ironic, Hawkie = snakemaster69, and Radicate = Gatsby Troll lel Also, I do agree that we would have to keep werewolves alive in order for the "Claim Cop d1" strategy to work, we would have to keep the werewolves alive (bad), but the chances we hit a Werewolf are pretty low (2/11, if you consider the fact that I'm not scum :^). Of course, the chances werewolves hit the Cop are also pretty low (1/11, if we lynch). In that case, should we hypo Cop? (day 2 of course no bullshit) Also Fenrir Aesir, if you could please link me with the Mafiascum game. |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 23, 2017 23:55:04 GMT
What the fuck did Snaq do to Radicate jesus christ... For now I think there are 3 people who did the makeover thing (very cancer): I'm Ironic, Hawkie = snakemaster69, and Radicate = Gatsby Troll lel Also, I do agree that we would have to keep werewolves alive in order for the "Claim Cop d1" strategy to work, we would have to keep the werewolves alive (bad), but the chances we hit a Werewolf are pretty low (2/11, if you consider the fact that I'm not scum :^). Of course, the chances werewolves hit the Cop are also pretty low (1/11, if we lynch). In that case, should we hypo Cop? (day 2 of course no bullshit) Also Fenrir Aesir, if you could please link me with the Mafiascum game. I've not read far in right now, but a strategy was proposed in this game where the town No Lynches and werewolves No Kill until the Cop found all three mafia. I'm against this for the same reasons mentioned in that thread, which is that werewolves have no reason to not kill save the low chance of hitting the Cop. By that same virtue, 6/12 (50%) of the roles in this game are scum, so we should absolutely lynch today. **Lynch Nathaniel E.** oops. Hypo could be interesting. Although the normal purpose for it is to confuse scum and confusing the werewolves on who the cop is doesn't really benefit anyone. |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 24, 2017 0:00:48 GMT
Oh, hey. According to the Cop role PM in that game:
"You are the Cop. At the beginning of the game, and then every night, you may investigate one player. You will learn whether they are Mafia, Werewolf, or neither."
Guess it works differently in this. Cool, although it makes hypo even more difficult and gives the werewolves incentive to kill even the cop.
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 24, 2017 1:37:40 GMT
Bruh You confused me you told me pre-game that Cop was Mafia/Not Mafia not Mafia/WW/Town, what a pleb. And yes, now 100% hypo LOL. VigilanteVigoroth / @vigilantevigoroth confirm that. |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 24, 2017 1:46:14 GMT
Yeah, I'm bad and made an incorrect assumption.
We could just have the cop not claim, tbh. The problem I have with hypo is that with 3 mafia and 2 werewolves it'll be super easy for them to figure out who's not the actual cop.
To the other 10 people in this game, I'd love it if y'all didn't sit by and idle.
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Post by Hawkie on Jul 24, 2017 1:59:00 GMT
Animallover77 just going on about not lynching them then picking a rand pings me
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Post by Hawkie on Jul 24, 2017 1:59:42 GMT
I don't think the cop should claim tbh at least on forums it's way easier to soft your inspects
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 24, 2017 2:37:29 GMT
I'm torn. On one hand I want to start pressuring Hawkie early for talking about how Ani pings them and not following that up with a vote/any pressure. On the other hand the point Hawkie brings up about Ani is a good point. Let's go with...
unvote ODM, vote Hawkie
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 24, 2017 2:41:10 GMT
Forgot about new names. unvote ODM, vote snakemaster69
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 24, 2017 2:41:25 GMT
Forgot about new names. unvote ODM, vote snakemaster69
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Post by RADicate on Jul 24, 2017 3:36:27 GMT
LYNCH RADICATE
RADICATE IS ONE HUNDRED MILLION THOUSAND PERCENT SCUM I AM TELLING YOU. BTW I CLICKED ON MY ROLEPM AND SEEN GREEN SO WE ARE GEE OHH OHH DEE. LETS GO LETS FIND THESE SCUM LETS ERADicate THESE MAFIA AND LYNCHER BADDIES!!!!!!!
xoxo - Gossip Girl
Scumslip, he said "mafia and lyncher" were the only baddies, didnt mention WW, he slipped as WW ez pz. Unlynch, Lynch Hawkie |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 24, 2017 3:43:35 GMT
Rad's also pinging me w/ that b/c I feel like that's some God Tier opportunism, but Hawkie's yet to respond so
FoS: RADicate
FoS: Animallover77
Liking clc's proactiveness regarding our discussion. Very slight townlean, although it's easy for scum to fake things like that early on.
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Post by Umbrella on Jul 24, 2017 4:18:11 GMT
Hi :3 Hawkie Check PMs Ok so Don;t lynch me imo I said don't lynch me e:3 |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 24, 2017 5:17:28 GMT
Lynch Fenrir Your my lynch target xoxo It's more that you went on about "Oh, don't lynch poor me but let me join the rvs still" |
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Post by Umbrella on Jul 24, 2017 5:55:15 GMT
Lynch Fenrir Your my lynch target xoxo It's more that you went on about "Oh, don't lynch poor me but let me join the rvs still" Yep I did don't lynch poor little me please |
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Jul 24, 2017 6:46:20 GMT
Cop gets mafia/not mafia
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Post by incognito on Jul 24, 2017 7:01:25 GMT
hi i'm town
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 24, 2017 8:44:23 GMT
Tbh I don't scumread dickmasterhawkie, but I don't really scumread any of the current wagon on him either.
I start forming better reads once the current inactives pick up.
No Lynch
By the way no lynching is the correct option, but less us discuss for of this day first. Unless someone turns up to be excessively scummy, we should let the kills run wild as with cop and 3*2 scum, the kills are gonna hurt scum more than town.
This is proven EV wise btw, I could churn em out (someone on MS actually did the EVs) if you need em
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Post by BoredGames on Jul 24, 2017 10:31:28 GMT
ubderdogedevourer
Please stop posting that pic, no-body wants to see that zombie dog
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 24, 2017 10:48:16 GMT
it's not my fucking fault when it's in my fucking sig don't filler pls i know this post itself is filler but i find it perfectly fine to filler in response to filler.
TR on Fenrir after re-reading
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 24, 2017 13:04:30 GMT
Rad's also pinging me w/ that b/c I feel like that's some God Tier opportunism, but Hawkie's yet to respond so FoS: RADicate
FoS: Animallover77Liking clc's proactiveness regarding our discussion. Very slight townlean, although it's easy for scum to fake things like that early on. Not really blaming anything but it's kinda weird that you share the FoS with person you have a lynch on |
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