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Post by Fenrir on Jul 26, 2017 14:38:11 GMT
confused. what clarifies the end of RVS. I never saw a dedicated end point. Joke Answer: WHEN YOU STOP TROLLINGReal Answer: After Fenrir starts no-lifeing it, so yeah, it's ended already. Sorry bro. Smh. I've heard it described as "when someone does something stupid to get out of RVS" or "when someone starts pressuring early." Which probably aligns with my pressure vote on Hawkie, which would support "after Fenrir starts no-lifeing it. ;-; But it's more of a gradient and I already commented on the lack of a single point. |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 26, 2017 15:06:36 GMT
Let me also say this clearly now, to prevent any "misinterpretation" later:
I don't know if I'll be able to get on again before the first deadline, but Champ is the person I believe should be lynched regardless of Ani's flip-his connections to Ani are bad, but he's also plenty scummy on his own (see my read on him earlier).
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 26, 2017 15:12:59 GMT
Page 9-Suggests that he's not giving his reads because of how people reacted to Zest's readlist and attempts to create a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation using two different posts from two different people DIRECTED at two different people in two different CONTEXTS. Attempts to discredit the read on him based on player meta of all things and apparently believes himself to be superior because he "looks at all the possibilities" which not only has he not demonstrated yet but is extremely vague. Proceeds to give the hedgiest read on me I have seen in a while with another, this time hypothetical "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If I weren't so frustrated with Ani's bare-bones content I'd switch to him right now. It's a good thing we have 2 lynches per day. Scum. Boring, I explained Champ in an earlier post so I'm not gonna get into him but he's reading a little scumlean, though once HE becomes not limited in his viewing size (*akem* "Like [Fenrir], you must be a player who has a limited view on the possibilities fine, but I'm a player who looks upon all the possibilities.").11: THE GREAT GATSBY (RADicate) : I like the fact that he came back to explain things, and I like his explanation. I also like that he's stayed after to discuss more than things directed at him. I'd like to see him go into more detail with his reads though, so at the moment: Neutral. Same but he tings me as town (slight townlean) --- but I'm bored so if you want me to get more into this I will.12: spiderlover77: I've discussed this as well and can summarize it pretty easily: "filler filler filler (vote ZoL when it conveniently forms a counterwagon) filler (vote Fenrir in what looks a lot like an omgus) give reasoning for nothing." I'm not calling for everyone to suddenly turbo him, but I don't see why people think there's potential reasoning for Ani as town to do this and continue it when pressured. Scum. I've talked about him enough he's a big ass noob who isn't helping so I don't mind him as a d1 lynch (especially with Champ "buddying" him). Major Scumlean/ScumreadOne more post coming after this |
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 26, 2017 15:40:55 GMT
Let me also say this clearly now, to prevent any "misinterpretation" later: I don't know if I'll be able to get on again before the first deadline, but Champ is the person I believe should be lynched regardless of Ani's flip-his connections to Ani are bad, but he's also plenty scummy on his own (see my read on him earlier). Are you saying Animal is a better lynch than Champ still rn? Because you just said Champ is the person who should be lynched regardless of any circumstance, so why not lynch Champ then? |
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 26, 2017 15:45:07 GMT
POOUUUUNDD THE ALAAAAAAARM!!!!! SCUM HAS BEEN SIGHTEDon a more serious note I don't like the tone of this post. The reads on people are all 1 liners and more commentary on what they've done so far rather than actual analysis. It feels more like a "forced" post from a non-town aligned player trying to feign that they're making an effort to read the other players in the game rather than a townie who feels he's at the point in his analysis of the game that he should post a reads list. He lynches AnimalLover77 and echoes reasoning that's already been given(by me and other people) and basically says "play better" rather than exploring AnimalLover77 as scum? There are 0 scumreads in this post and after 7 pages with so many scum in this game ANY town-aligned player would at least have ONE person they think could flip red. Tldr this is a scum slot Unvote Radicate vote ZestOfLife A) I do SR Animal for the reasons stated (its pretty obvious even if I havent written "I SR Animal"). B) So apparently giving my summary of reads after 7 pages is "forced scum who is forced to post". C) So I cannot SR a player/apply pressure at all just because someone already stated the same reads? D) What do you mean by "explore Animal as scum"? Do I indepth read him? Wait no all his posts are just "Don't lynch me". Disliking this post when I read back on it, especially letter D. Seems like Zest is practically saying "Well the only reason he's scum is because he's saying don't lynch me" which is extremely easy to wagon on (it had 2 lynches before) it for scum. The apply pressure thing also is interesting, because it doesn't seem he is applying pressure (again, it had enough pressure as is). Need responses that arent one-liners from zol asap |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 26, 2017 18:23:28 GMT
Let me also say this clearly now, to prevent any "misinterpretation" later: I don't know if I'll be able to get on again before the first deadline, but Champ is the person I believe should be lynched regardless of Ani's flip-his connections to Ani are bad, but he's also plenty scummy on his own (see my read on him earlier). Are you saying Animal is a better lynch than Champ still rn? Because you just said Champ is the person who should be lynched regardless of any circumstance, so why not lynch Champ then? Incoming short responses due to mobile, but we have two lynches per day. I think they should be used on Ani and Champ, and Ani is already in the process of being lynched today. We've discussed the interactions between Ani and Champ so I mentioned the flip so people didn't expect me to think Ani flipping town would make Champ look any better. |
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Post by incognito on Jul 26, 2017 19:07:44 GMT
Ok you guys type out long fucking paragraphs. Is there anyone that can BRIEFLY tell me why we are focusing on ani rn? And maybe make a short summary of anything important that happened so far? I promise to read everything at some point but this is just so i can be informed and decide on a lynch for now.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Jul 26, 2017 19:08:20 GMT
so thats deadline a few minutes ago, shhhh for now
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Jul 26, 2017 19:23:28 GMT
Deadline!
Animallover77 (3)- clc ironic ZestOfLife Fenrir Kind Kangaroo Killer/Zestoflife (2)- Hawkie RADicate Fenrir (2)- Umbrella Champ1604 ODM (1)- Bomb Moss Uberdogedriver/XnadrojX (0) Snakemaster69/Hawkie (0)No Lynch (0)Daddy Cosby/Ironicninja (0)Bored6886 (0)Shanice the unicorn/Tonithesadthing (0)Chatterseel (0)Queen Erotica/Champ1604 (0)The Great Gatsby/RADicate (0)Not Voting- incognito BoredGames Crespo @chatterseel Umbrella was lynched
They were the.....
Vanilla Townie
Begin day 1.5!
No lynch (0)
Kind Kangaroo Killer/Zestoflife (0)Fenrir (0)ODM (0)Uberdogedriver/XnadrojX (0) Snakemaster69/Hawkie (0)Daddy Cosby/Ironicninja (0)Bored6886 (0)Shanice the unicorn/Tonithesadthing (0)Chatterseel (0)Queen Erotica/Champ1604 (0)The Great Gatsby/RADicate (0)
Not Voting (11) incognito ZestOfLife Fenrir Bomb Moss Hawkie clc ironic BoredGames @tonithesadthing @chatterseel Champ1604 RADicate
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 26, 2017 19:38:02 GMT
I feel more frustrated rn than I probably would have felt if I was town in Anon29.
Vote Champ1604, discussed this already. I'll try to summarize what I can for ODM I guess (although he is doing his own reading) although the Ani lynch was due to fillering about "Don't lynch me but let me lynch people still and continuing that filler not in spite of, because of the fact that people were pressuring him for it, as well as explaining none of his reads or votes which were timed such that they looked like blatant attempts to shift/omgus.
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 26, 2017 19:43:48 GMT
FUCKING NICE
This is what happens when you have trolls --- they flip town and your like fuck what did we get with that
And then when they sometimes flip scum we are like how did we let them live
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Ban trollers and more comments later
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 26, 2017 20:20:20 GMT
Lynch Kind Kangaroo Killer/ZoL
Well, I'm going to start with pressure on this. Not gonna lynch Champ quite yet since I'm not sold on him being scum and would like his reads before I make a final judgement on him. Zest though has to pick up the slack --- two posts with just one-liners doesn't cut it for me. I'm happy to switch, but since d1 was a massive fail, I guess d2 = pressure again (smh)
Can I just point out this funny comment I saw:
+Hawkie: If people paid attention games would be better
same
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Post by Hawkie on Jul 26, 2017 20:54:47 GMT
A) I do SR Animal for the reasons stated (its pretty obvious even if I havent written "I SR Animal"). B) So apparently giving my summary of reads after 7 pages is "forced scum who is forced to post". C) So I cannot SR a player/apply pressure at all just because someone already stated the same reads? D) What do you mean by "explore Animal as scum"? Do I indepth read him? Wait no all his posts are just "Don't lynch me". Disliking this post when I read back on it, especially letter D. Seems like Zest is practically saying "Well the only reason he's scum is because he's saying don't lynch me" which is extremely easy to wagon on (it had 2 lynches before) it for scum. The apply pressure thing also is interesting, because it doesn't seem he is applying pressure (again, it had enough pressure as is). Need responses that arent one-liners from zol asap I agree with clc here ZOL's lynch on AnimalLover77 was basically "you're playing bad step it up" that is not scumreading someone lmao that is lynching someone for bad play and taking their alignment out of the question and someone's alignment would be at the forefront of your mind when you're considering lynching them. "B) So apparently giving my summary of reads after 7 pages is "forced scum who is forced to post"."This justification really pings me because he's completely disregarding the fact that my point was that his reads were incredibly shallow with one liners for basically everyone he posted for. Talking about afks and people not having posted was a major theme in ZOL's post which to me feels like he was just latching onto anything to say to make it look like he was developing reads AKA the reads list. "C) So I cannot SR a player/apply pressure at all just because someone already stated the same reads?"
The point i was making was that he didn't scumread AnimalLover77, he literally told them to improve their play. If you scumread a player you don't care about how bad they're playing, you care about pointing out the things they've done that make them scummy. I think ZOL was just latching onto the AnimalLover77 read thrown out there by other people and the push on them is scum-oriented considering his defence of his actions. In his ABCD list he basically took things out of context and twisted it to try and make it look like a nonsensical push on him. Lynch ZestOfLifexx |
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 26, 2017 22:20:47 GMT
dickmaster69 (@snakemaster69), what about when you were exposed with +Hawkie: If people paid attention games would be better
hypocrisy my favorite
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 26, 2017 23:28:53 GMT
Ok fuck I meant to get on before DL, but I kinda got caught up in other shit and i fell asleep before playing mafia. Imma go read back now
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 26, 2017 23:31:01 GMT
For ODM: ZoL gave a BS 1-liner 'Read List', then took a shit ton of things out of context to discredit the push on him. Animal was posting nothing but 'don't lynch me', and Champ was talking through their ass for the later part of Day 1
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 26, 2017 23:31:57 GMT
Oh, and I'm getting scumread by RAD cuz I gave a new analysis on a wagon which implicated him and now I'm busy destroying everything targeted at me while he tries to call defending myself scummy.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 26, 2017 23:35:39 GMT
VigilanteVigoroth I was not voting ODM last day, pls fix it or its going to destroy the LyLo VCA strats.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 26, 2017 23:42:07 GMT
Re: Fenrir response to my post:
I now remove 'opinionated' from the dictionary. 'dogmatic' will be our new word of choice.
Champ and Ani's reads meant nothing to me.
Ok, will provide clear reads later which probably means not now
I mean I AM looking at other people, I'm just doing it in a passive manner rather than my usual aggressive manner. Idk why but I felt like doing that.
Would like to see how ZoL responds to the pressure mounting on him, and how other major scumread Champ reacts to pressure shifting off him.
will post more tonight I PROMISE
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 27, 2017 0:07:50 GMT
Probably won't be online with enough time to respond to everything but let's see how much I can respond to.
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 27, 2017 0:12:33 GMT
Disliking this post when I read back on it, especially letter D. Seems like Zest is practically saying "Well the only reason he's scum is because he's saying don't lynch me" which is extremely easy to wagon on (it had 2 lynches before) it for scum. The apply pressure thing also is interesting, because it doesn't seem he is applying pressure (again, it had enough pressure as is). Need responses that arent one-liners from zol asap I agree with clc here ZOL's lynch on AnimalLover77 was basically "you're playing bad step it up" that is not scumreading someone lmao that is lynching someone for bad play and taking their alignment out of the question "Bad play" is scumminess, no? If you mean it as something different please explain, because I'm currently interpreting it as him lynching his scumread.and someone's alignment would be at the forefront of your mind when you're considering lynching them. "B) So apparently giving my summary of reads after 7 pages is "forced scum who is forced to post"."This justification really pings me because he's completely disregarding the fact that my point was that his reads were incredibly shallow with one liners for basically everyone he posted for. Talking about afks and people not having posted was a major theme in ZOL's post which to me feels like he was just latching onto anything to say to make it look like he was developing reads AKA the reads list. This I agree with and I agree it's a problem. It's also rather hypocritical of him now, as he's gone right back to lurking."C) So I cannot SR a player/apply pressure at all just because someone already stated the same reads?"
The point i was making was that he didn't scumread AnimalLover77, he literally told them to improve their play. If you scumread a player you don't care about how bad they're playing, you care about pointing out the things they've done that make them scummy. I think ZOL was just latching onto the AnimalLover77 read thrown out there by other people and the push on them is scum-oriented considering his defence of his actions. In his ABCD list he basically took things out of context and twisted it to try and make it look like a nonsensical push on him. Commented on this above, the "bad play" was what was scummy on my opinion. If I have the time right now, I will go through the posts Zest has and look at the context to be able to give my thoughts on this. If I don't have the time right now I should most likely be able to find it later.Lynch ZestOfLifexx Comments in bold and italics to differentiate from Hawkie's bold. |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 27, 2017 0:13:11 GMT
dickmaster69 (@snakemaster69), what about when you were exposed with +Hawkie: If people paid attention games would be better hypocrisy my favorite +1+2+3+4+5+10 Making me cry, be active ;-; |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 27, 2017 0:17:37 GMT
Re: Fenrir response to my post: I now remove 'opinionated' from the dictionary. 'dogmatic' will be our new word of choice. Hue, I'm fine with "dog"matic.Champ and Ani's reads meant nothing to me. Are you referring to the reads in general or their reads on each other? Either way there are few of either: Champ's only read so far is on me and the closest thing Ani gave to a read is "Fenrir is more likely scum than Zest" without explaining why he found either scummy to begin with.Ok, will provide clear reads later which probably means not now u.uI mean I AM looking at other people, I'm just doing it in a passive manner rather than my usual aggressive manner. Idk why but I felt like doing that. Passiveness is, generally speaking, not a townish trait. I look forward to the "clear reads" mentioned above.Would like to see how ZoL responds to the pressure mounting on him, and how other major scumread Champ reacts to pressure shifting off him. Though I don't like that pressure is shifting off of Champ, I look forward to this too. Although I feel like your bringing this up has introduced some wifom into their reactions now.will post more tonight I PROMISE |
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 27, 2017 0:19:49 GMT
Re: Fenrir response to my post: I now remove 'opinionated' from the dictionary. 'dogmatic' will be our new word of choice. Champ and Ani's reads meant nothing to me. Ok, will provide clear reads later which probably means not nowI mean I AM looking at other people, I'm just doing it in a passive manner rather than my usual aggressive manner. Idk why but I felt like doing that. Would like to see how ZoL responds to the pressure mounting on him, and how other major scumread Champ reacts to pressure shifting off him. will post more tonight I PROMISEIsn't "will post more tonight I PROMISE" what you say every day LOL Anyway would like to just casually point out how many players there are in this game. 3. Fucking how does this game progress if Bored and Toni are always fucking on PS and never come on to post---or like nonexistent ODM/cseel just sitting there...I too "Would like to see how ZoL responds to the pressure mounting on him" but he too "does not give a fuck as demonstrated by his lack of inactivity here and activity on PS" I hate lurkers in ps mafia but seriously, these aren't noobs (right) so why is this game so inactive |
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Post by clc ironic on Jul 27, 2017 0:22:51 GMT
"Champ and Ani's reads meant nothing to me. --- [Fenrir says] Are you referring to the reads in general or their reads on each other? Either way there are few of either: Champ's only read so far is on me and the closest thing Ani gave to a read is "Fenrir is more likely scum than Zest" without explaining why he found either scummy to begin with."
Agreed :^)
"If I have the time right now, I will go through the posts Zest has and look at the context to be able to give my thoughts on this. If I don't have the time right now I should most likely be able to find it later."
Good luck he only has 2 posts both which are one-liners
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