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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Aug 11, 2017 15:11:10 GMT
The reasoning behind my vigvig read is that when it came to Radicate, he tried to direct the push towards clc by saying "here are my interactions with clc" (sends pastebin) "clc is scummy what do you think" and "tbh you should get off rad i dont see your reason to lynch him" But it is still rvs d1, no matter the actual info you've had it's still a viable method. So I see vigvig + cseel + radicate as the mafia also because now when people are shifting to cseel vigvig's starting a counterwagon on me. Also I'd like to say Animal is town when I die, and if you better get vigvig the next day. (pm me on discord and I'll answer) I explained why I thought your reads on Rad weren't viable for a lynch. Also, deadline is in about 7 hours, and your excuse is RVS? We moved on from RVS on like page 4, or atleast I did. also, what is scummy about me asking your thoughts on clc? I wanted to know if others thought the same way about something to do with it, and I don't see a problem with doing that I certainly didn't start a counterwagon on you, in fact, it was 3 on cseel and 2 on you. I stated the reasons I thought lynching you was the best idea. You end with a pathetic 'if I die get vigvig' which is just.... Same dude, same Also, if I wanted I could accuse you of buddying too. When I asked for your thoughts on clc, you ignored it and tried to make an excuse of me scumslipping, which clearly wasn't an actual reason for scumreading me, as you failed to mention it here. It was only an excuse to change the subject Later, I approached you again, and you 'thought he was town because I am scum and am pushing a lynch on him' Conclusion: you are scum, which means Animal is probably scum too |
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Post by ❗ on Aug 11, 2017 16:02:19 GMT
The reasoning behind my vigvig read is that when it came to Radicate, he tried to direct the push towards clc by saying "here are my interactions with clc" (sends pastebin) "clc is scummy what do you think" and "tbh you should get off rad i dont see your reason to lynch him" But it is still rvs d1, no matter the actual info you've had it's still a viable method. So I see vigvig + cseel + radicate as the mafia also because now when people are shifting to cseel vigvig's starting a counterwagon on me. Also I'd like to say Animal is town when I die, and if you better get vigvig the next day. (pm me on discord and I'll answer) I explained why I thought your reads on Rad weren't viable for a lynch. Also, deadline is in about 7 hours, and your excuse is RVS? We moved on from RVS on like page 4, or atleast I did. also, what is scummy about me asking your thoughts on clc? I wanted to know if others thought the same way about something to do with it, and I don't see a problem with doing that I certainly didn't start a counterwagon on you, in fact, it was 3 on cseel and 2 on you. I stated the reasons I thought lynching you was the best idea. You end with a pathetic 'if I die get vigvig' which is just.... Same dude, same Also, if I wanted I could accuse you of buddying too. When I asked for your thoughts on clc, you ignored it and tried to make an excuse of me scumslipping, which clearly wasn't an actual reason for scumreading me, as you failed to mention it here. It was only an excuse to change the subject Later, I approached you again, and you 'thought he was town because I am scum and am pushing a lynch on him' Conclusion: you are scum, which means Animal is probably scum too |
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Post by ❗ on Aug 11, 2017 16:14:32 GMT
Oops idk how forums work.
But you're basically on me cause
1) I accused you of slipping (which indeed were not slips, but when I pointed them out you were flustered)
2) because it wasnt a counterwagon and I had 2 people on me (conveniently I was your main sr by that point while cseel was being lynched, even though you had previously sred clc)
3) And also you mentioned "conclusion: you are scum and so is animal" (do you think I'd have the audacity as scum to buddy someone knowing perfectly well that IF I was scum and got lynched {which is perfectly possible at this point} that I'd openly let animal be a prioritized lynch candidate for the next day?)
Sure, there's an aspect of wifom to this but this is all how I view things.
(side note clc said they were definite town they are probably town)
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Aug 11, 2017 16:30:25 GMT
1) so WHY bring them up if not to change the subject. I was flustered because of how stupid those calls for scumslips were
2) what? im confused. plus i never sr'd clc so instead of guessing things, read back, make sure you are correct, instead of posting false evidence
3) ask xnad and fenrir, they did the exact same thing in sinnoh
are you TRYING to tell me who the scum is? I spoke to animal and your reasoning for townlocking each other is absolutely pitiful. Plus certain things clc said have led me to believe he is the 3rd scum member. (if you wish I can go into more detail on this)
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 11, 2017 18:00:24 GMT
back from math, will post my thoughts soon c:
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 11, 2017 18:19:25 GMT
Thoughts on Chatterseel (in-depth):
post #1 talks about basic game mechanics, and has the tone of a townie attempting to gamesolve day 1.
post #2 is really a defense to RADicate attacking cseel's post #1. The post has the tone of either frustrated town or scum defending against a pointless counter-argument, and is really NAI. I'll say that post #1, in my opinion, wasn't a forced scum post and was instead what I said above.
post #3 is answering a question, NAI.
post #4 pings me hard. Rereading it, it seems as if cseel told everyone to do exactly not what she did, filler. "Imo, we should all should stop softing whether our roles are "good" or not. It's info that is useless, which basically means it's filler." I mean, wouldn't post #1 also be considered filler in this case? Then "About the whole "who will be the town leader' thing, we should all try and take the "town leader" position, since we shouldn't have an "obvious" person to kill or a person to kill that would hurt town's activity a lot." is really another filler post which I mean, off logic, is pretty obvious. I'm not going to just scumread someone off one post, but this post pings me as scum.
post #5 is NAI
post #6 is weird as cseel gets off just to get onto another person (in RVS), but I mean there is somewhat of a basis behind it so again, NAI.
post #7 is a good defense tbh (exactly what I was thinking) and there was no over reaction.
post #8 is not understandable. Where in the hell did Zorquax slip? Disliking how quick you are just to get off and get back on others. This also may be an attempt of a diversion/plurshift, as iirc I already had one lynch on Zorquax before. Zorquax is a pretty easy target tbh, as he isn't doing anything, is being buddied by Animole...but it's NAI for now until I get the exact reason cseel thought Zorquax slipped (I don't see it).
post #9 i guess would be the defense to the Zorquax slip, but honestly, it is not a good enough reason to just shift attention to Zorquax.
post #10 states the obvious.
post #11 states the obvious though you should probably PM one of them.
post #12 at this point just seems like either mad scum or mad town being like "who the fuck do these people think they are", though I'd say "lmao this bw." is more of a scummy comment than townie.
post #13 is another decent defense against RAD, but NAI.
post #14 covers practically what post #10/11/12 covered.
post #15 i'm not sure because there was no exact person cseel targeted this towards (no person was mentioned in the post).
Basically, what I'm getting after ISOing cseel is more of a gamesolve attitude, but no really real scumhunting. Aside from a seem-like Zorquax diversion and a couple other random reads and such, I haven't seen cseel doing any scumhunting which is more of a scummy behaviour. I realize I originally did tr you, but that was mainly for the first entry post which, as I mentioned before, seemed like a townie gamesolve post, but rereading all your posts, it seems as though maybe it was just mafia trying to make a first impression. Wouldn't be that mad at a cseel lynch today...though I'd like other inputs on this matter---and cseel, if you want to live, I recommend doing some scumhunting instead of stating the obvious.
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 11, 2017 18:29:19 GMT
I think vigvig asked me about my thoughts on Zorquax, so here they are:
post #1 is just a filler post and if it wasn't coming from zorquax, then I would read it scum. NAI for him though.
post #2 idek "too happy to be town" lol please
post #3 is zorquax not paying fucking attention
post #4 actually has the tone of noob town being like (bear with me): "NOOO I WILL NOT BE DECIEVED BY YOUR TRICKS", but again, thats Zorquax for you...
post #5 are scumreads with no basis --
post #6 are shit reasons for scumreading rad + vigvig (lol) but again thats zorquax.
post #7 is zorquax being bad.
post #8 is useless aside from this interesting quote: "3) And also you mentioned "conclusion: you are scum and so is animal" (do you think I'd have the audacity as scum to buddy someone knowing perfectly well that IF I was scum and got lynched {which is perfectly possible at this point} that I'd openly let animal be a prioritized lynch candidate for the next day?)" "do you think I'd have the audacity as scum to buddy someone knowing perfectly well that IF I was scum and got lynched." yes. you do. I dislike this post because it is just a bunch of WIFOM and that zorquax as scum = wifom everyone lul gg...!
He talked with me some on PS basically saying animal was town and he wouldn't give me a reason
Ok, final thoughts are that zorquax is garbage, he needs to fucking learn how to play mafia, he is trolling and not trolling, and basically am VERY CONFUSED ON THIS SLOT. Sometimes I just have the urge to tunnel his ass, and sometimes I actually think hes town...for now, I guess my final verdict would be a very saddening null, but would like ACTUAL SCUMHUNTING being done by zorquax, or else I may as well hope for the chance that he's scum and policy him (please, I don't want to do this).
@vigilantevigoroth tagging you cause you asked for it
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 11, 2017 18:29:54 GMT
nvm dont know how to tag you gg
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 11, 2017 18:30:36 GMT
Also, Fenrir can we have a vote count as it is reaching EoD (2 hours 30 mins left), and will have to rethink the current wagons |
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Aug 11, 2017 18:45:12 GMT
i fucking hate that im doing this because he is incredibly scummy
unlynch Zorquax, lynch shubaka
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 11, 2017 18:57:07 GMT
do not ask me what i am doing. i am a robot.
unlynch zorquax.
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 11, 2017 19:19:45 GMT
Votecount 1.4
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Mafia Psyhologist/cseel(3)- shubaka17 , Umbrella , RADicate shubaka17(3)- incognito , Bomb Moss , VigilanteVigoroth ajhockeystar/Zorquax(1)- @chatterseel TheGreatGatsby/Radicate(1)- ❗
Broken Jukebox/Bored_6886(1)- ForgotToFlush clc ironic(0)-ODM(0)-
ForgotToFlush(0)-
uberdogedevourer/XnadrojX/Bomb Moss(0)-
Animallover77(0)-
splashattackLOL/VigilanteVigoroth(0)-
sadisticnarwhal(0)-
Drookez(0)-
grantmjc(0)-
Not Voting(4)- BoredGames , sadisticnarwhal , Drookez , grantmjc ******************************Please do not ask when hammer is or if the day is majority or plurality, as it is possible that lynch-affecting roles exist. Deadline is Friday the 11th at 5:00 PM EST. This is in 1 hour and 40 minutes from the time of this post.
There is a chance I will be unable to get online at deadline. Remember you can still talk in-thread until deadline is announced, but any votes made after deadline will not be counted.
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Post by RADicate on Aug 11, 2017 19:24:16 GMT
anywho the only person that nobody TRs is shubaka, im null on him but if he is going to sit in the backround and lurk all game its a good start imo (not really supporting the other wagons tbh cseel is null/SLIGHT townlean atm and not feeling the zorq lynch today would be just as fine with a drookez lynch for the same reasons but meh. unlynch and lynch shubaka
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Post by RADicate on Aug 11, 2017 19:25:25 GMT
anyways i doubt i'll be able to make anymore posts befor eDL strikes so im outta here
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 11, 2017 19:27:41 GMT
shubaka17 wake up not minding this lynch since there are counterwagons, but i really dont wanna lynch someone while they are afk (especially if they have info which from an outside source, they do)
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 11, 2017 22:29:30 GMT
Deadline; a vote count should be up soon.
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Post by RADicate on Aug 11, 2017 23:06:08 GMT
Fenrir do you plan on allowing nighttapk in the thread???
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Post by BoredGames on Aug 11, 2017 23:13:03 GMT
Alright thoughts after pming various members and reading interactions
-Radicate: Town for now as far as I'm confirmed. not much to think about past this. Too pushy for my tastes though
-aj: I wanna pm you, but from what I can tell, I like the way you criticized clc's lynch. I don't agree entirely with it though and it is NAI.
-Al77: nothing that catches me off guard here. This is all predictable behaviour. Need to pm you
-ODM: our one conversation has you as town in my books, for now
-VigVig: Proactive enough for the time period so now sr here
-cseel: Town for now BUT, the reaction to shub lynching you and his attached reasoning, is so antagonistic and unapproachable.
-Xnad: hmu later
-shub+grant+drookez+sadwhal:need to talk more pls
-Bored:
-Clc: the elephant in the room, trying way too hard to be forward with little to no effect. Def not a tr
-Bored: No activity provided has me tring you.
ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/25725/thread
missed this but for my sake i'll withhold on the neg claim
unlynch rad, lynch bored
Ok, not sure why I am being lynched. Has their been anything to make me scummy? If so what? Lack of info over this is kind of confusing I think it would be helpful if we talked. Almost 10 pages in, and I got a decent read on everyone. Here are my opening wallpost reads: clc ironic - definite town TheGreatGatsby/Radicate - neutral, talked with me a bit, made some townie remarks and some scummy remarks, but his overall activity in this thread currently is quite nice. Won't say he's quite town yet though, as scum can easily be active day one as well. Mafia Psyhologist/cseel - slight townlean, her current remarks are of town trying to gamesolve, and her reads arent too bad. Would not like to lynch this for today, imo hit me up with a convo @cseel c: shubaka17 - null/slight scumlean, Aside from the "I'm here PM me on PS/discord", haven't seen an active scumhunt, their random lynch went onto a person who had already had a lynch---and I dont mind the pressure, but clearly they weren't even paying attention. Don't have the biggest read, but I'm fine with this as a lynch today as with all the other wagons, a mafia flip here would result in a pretty easy game (if they flip 3rd party, hey bye 3rd party lul). ForgotToFlush - slight scumlean, Would like a definite explanation on the reads here, as they are just one-liners that don't make any sense. Pings me as a forced readlist post. ajhockeystar/Zorquax - Null, have no clue about this and animallover77 duo but I'm fucking hoping to god they are town lol --- though I'd like an explanation on vigvig + rad reads. Broken Jukebox/Bored_6886 - Townlean/townread, nothing more has to be said. If you really want to know, hit me up with a PM. uberdogedevourer/XnadrojX/Bomb Moss - Null, legit forgot they were fucking in the game lol... ODM - Null, back to shitposting but I have no clue since ODM always shitposts like a dick. Animallover77 - ALSO NULL, because again I have no clue and they are just fucking shitposting and I don't want something like in TMS to happen again where Animole is just the scapegoat; however, would look at lynching this later depending on their activity (step it up bro ik you can do better) splashattackLOL/VigilanteVigoroth - slight townlean, because when we had our little conversation he told me something that seemed very pro-town sadisticnarwhal - null, you know why Drookez - null, you know why grantmjc - townlean, during our conversation he gave me a reason he is not posting + seemed much noob town lol Clc, what are you going to tell them? Can u not mention my whole role, they should pm me for that. I talked to Grant. He indeed has his reason. This seems like heavy buddying tbh. Just cause you townread me, doesn't mean you should tell me what to do + your opinion isn't my opinion. Personally, shub's randvote is still on me and idk why it still is, but I don't find him as scummy as Zorq. I'm trying to protect you because i feel you're town, but if you want to be lynched then wth Ok, this brings back memories of the sinnoh OC. Last time ODM said something like this, it was to me in pms when he was scum in order for me to claim. I'm weary of this, but I can't justify a lynch based on past games. I know I haven't been active since I claimed neg, try and contact me (even use mail if u want) so we can talk about stuff. I particularly want to speak to Grant and FTF. Oh and RAD, stop saying i'm town, your acting like ani (btw ani won't tell me why they tr zorquax, and I disagree with the theory of if one is town the other is town because of yet again, the sinnoh maf oc game (I need to hear if zorquax also town locks ani). |
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 11, 2017 23:32:19 GMT
Fenrir do you plan on allowing nighttapk in the thread???
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shubaka17(4)- incognito , Bomb Moss , VigilanteVigoroth , RADicate Mafia Psyhologist/cseel(2)- shubaka17 , Umbrella ajhockeystar/Zorquax(1)- @chatterseel TheGreatGatsby/Radicate(1)- ❗
Broken Jukebox/Bored_6886(1)- ForgotToFlush clc ironic(0)-ODM(0)-
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uberdogedevourer/XnadrojX/Bomb Moss(0)-
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sadisticnarwhal(0)-
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grantmjc(0)-
Not Voting(4)- BoredGames , sadisticnarwhal , Drookez , grantmjc ******************************Shubaka17 was lynched. They were: Dear shubaka17, You are Primarina, the Soloist Pokémon! "Its singing voice is its chief weapon in battle. This Pokémon's Trainer must prioritize the daily maintenance of its throat at all costs."
You have heard rumors that the PC you live in is under attack. Recently captured members of the so-called "Anti-Trainer Clan" seek to purge the world of Trainers-starting with yours! It's up to you to find and eliminate these intruders before they can escape the PC. Additionally, you have heard tell of a Pokémon "following its own agenda," whatever that may mean. You don't know what this agenda is, but if it poses a threat to your Trainer then you must find and eliminate it as well. At night, you may choose a player to sing to. When you die, your song will reach all players to whom you have sung and they will learn of a random role in the game. They will not learn the role's alignment, or the player it belongs to. You may only sing to a given user once. You are aligned with the Trainer’s Party. You win when all threats to your Trainer have been eliminated. Good luck! Deadline is Saturday the 12th at 7:30 PM EST. Night talk is disallowed in the thread, no posts are allowed beyond this point. All actions must be sent by Sunday the 12th at 7:30 PM EST. |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Aug 12, 2017 0:58:50 GMT
Are we allowed to PM each other at night?
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 12, 2017 1:19:00 GMT
Yes.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Aug 12, 2017 3:41:29 GMT
Am I allowed to start a mass PM to function as a nightalking group? Because if you're allowing PMS, that's functionally nighttalk on
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Post by incognito on Aug 12, 2017 7:32:26 GMT
FENRIR HOW YOU LIKE MY CFDS?
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 12, 2017 10:58:00 GMT
Am I allowed to start a mass PM to function as a nightalking group? Because if you're allowing PMS, that's functionally nighttalk on You could. |
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 12, 2017 23:52:03 GMT
VigilanteVigoroth died last night. They were: Dear splashattackLOL/Vigilante Vigoroth, You are Toxapex, the Brutal Star Pokémon! “Those attacked by Toxapex's poison will suffer intense pain for three days and three nights. Post-recovery, there will be some aftereffects.”
You have heard rumors that the PC you live in is under attack. Recently captured members of the so-called "Anti-Trainer Clan" seek to purge the world of Trainers-starting with yours! It's up to you to find and eliminate these intruders before they can escape the PC. Additionally, you have heard tell of a Pokémon "following its own agenda," whatever that may mean. You don't know what this agenda is, but if it poses a threat to your Trainer then you must find and eliminate it as well. At night, you can choose to use your signature move, Baneful Bunker. Any players who target you while you are using this move will be poisoned, delaying the effects of all actions they take that night by one day/night cycle. You may not use Baneful Bunker on consecutive nights. Due to your typing, you are immune to the effects of poison. You are aligned with the Trainer’s Party. You win when all threats to your Trainer have been eliminated. Good luck!
Votecount 2.0
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ajhockeystar/Zorquax(0)-
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